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Re: UI Emerges Best Nigerian University In Law, Medicine by benardtotti(m): 4:10pm On Jan 25
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Re: UI Emerges Best Nigerian University In Law, Medicine by DoTheNeedful:
EDUECO:
Science without adequate experimentation is equivalent to falsehood!

Can you boldly say science laboratories(including the Anatomy cadaver laboratory for basic medical students) in the University of Ibadan is modern and properly managed?

Can you boldly say the University College Hospital(UCH)in Ibadan has good laboratories (including the mortuary)and hospital facilities?

What if I tell you that the great China has overtaken the USA in terms of science and technology. I'm very sure you are of the opinion that the USA is greater than China in science and technology in 2026.

The level of mediocrity in pure science related courses in the Nigerian public universities is unbelievable.
Like I stated in my previous post, I am not saying all is well with our universities. However, I think it is exaggerated, especially for federal universities.

As someone with background in sciences, I agree with you about the dearth of good laboratories in our schools. That said, Nigerian graduates can still compete decently in many foreign universities.

I wasted a few years of my life in Nigeria because of comments like yours. Comments like yours do more to kill confidence in Nigerian graduates than trigger the government to spend more on education. When I got into a Ph.D. program in the US, I realized that I was not an outlier. I saw many graduates of Nigerian universities doing well and winning awards at top universities. I, and some Nigerians I know, have published at the top tier venues in our fields.

I am not a medical doctor, but I have seen many graduates of UCH, LUTH, ABUTH, UNNTH and OAUTH practicing at various big hospitals here. There are many stories in the news about Nigerian doctors leaving the country to various advanced countries of the world. Those stories are very true.

Nigerians are too negative. Please don't misunderstand me, I am not saying that all is well. All I am saying is that things are not as terrible as some of you make them.

As for your comparison of China to the US in the area of science, I disagree. The US is still above China. In fact, I still rate Japan ahead of China in science and technology. There are ideas in scientific research community that are termed groundbreaking. Most of such are still coming from the US, Japan, Germany, Canada and so on. China is good at making incremental and cosmetic improvements to groundbreaking ideas coming from the US and other countries. They also spend too much cyberattack effort stealing confidential ideas from the US and other advanced countries.
Re: UI Emerges Best Nigerian University In Law, Medicine by EDUECO(m): 7:37pm On Jan 25
DoTheNeedful:
Like I stated in my previous post, I am not saying all is well with our universities. However, I think it is exaggerated, especially for federal universities.

As someone with background in sciences, I agree with you about the dearth of good laboratories in our schools. That said, Nigerian graduates can still compete decently in many foreign universities.

I wasted a few years of my life in Nigeria because of comments like yours. Comments like yours do more to kill confidence in Nigerian graduates than trigger the government to spend more on education. When I got into a Ph.D. program in the US, I realized that I was not an outlier. I saw many graduates of Nigerian universities doing well and winning awards at top universities. I, and some Nigerians I know, have published at the top tier venues in our fields.

I am not a medical doctor, but I have seen many graduates of UCH, LUTH, ABUTH, UNNTH and OAUTH practicing at various big hospitals here. There are many stories in the news about Nigerian doctors leaving the country to various advanced countries of the world. Those stories are very true.

Nigerians are too negative. Please don't misunderstand me, I am not saying that all is well. All I am saying is that things are not as terrible as some of you make them.

As for your comparison of China to the US in the area of science, I disagree. The US is still above China. In fact, I still rate Japan ahead of China in science and technology. There are ideas in scientific research community that are termed groundbreaking. Most of such are still coming from the US, Japan, Germany, Canada and so on. China is good at making incremental and cosmetic improvements to groundbreaking ideas coming from the US and other countries. They also spend too much cyberattack effort stealing confidential ideas from the US and other advanced countries.
If Nigeria's science education is not as bad as you wrote,then why do folks like
yourself run away to places like the USA or the UK? Nigeria's science education is very poor;you can't practise science(whether Medicine, Dentistry,Engineering,Physics,et cetera) in an environment with poor laboratories and inadequate equipments.

China is the greatest country in modern scientific innovations and China's industries have the highest level of efficiency.From primary to tertiary education level, China's science laboratories are up to date;and this has resulted to 'Made in China' goods which is found in every countries of the world.
Re: UI Emerges Best Nigerian University In Law, Medicine by ultraviolet27(f): 7:45pm On Jan 25
EDUECO:
I still stand by what I wrote before that pure science courses in Nigeria public universities are the biggest scam in the world. I don't have anything against social sciences, arts,and law.

Laboratory is the real foundation of science and technology.You can't practise real pure science without modern laboratories.

I was once a student of a highly rated public university in Nigeria. And their laboratories were outdated and poorly managed.
Re: UI Emerges Best Nigerian University In Law, Medicine by ultraviolet27(f): 7:45pm On Jan 25
EDUECO:
I still stand by what I wrote before that pure science courses in Nigeria public universities are the biggest scam in the world. I don't have anything against social sciences, arts,and law.

Laboratory is the real foundation of science and technology.You can't practise real pure science without modern laboratories.

I was once a student of a highly rated public university in Nigeria. And their laboratories were outdated and poorly managed.
Re: UI Emerges Best Nigerian University In Law, Medicine by ultraviolet27(f): 7:49pm On Jan 25
EDUECO:
I still stand by what I wrote before that pure science courses in Nigeria public universities are the biggest scam in the world. I don't have anything against social sciences, arts,and law.

Laboratory is the real foundation of science and technology.You can't practise real pure science without modern laboratories.

I was once a student of a highly rated public university in Nigeria. And their laboratories were outdated and poorly managed.
But not the government fault alone every Nigerians from the poor, unlettered,to the privileged and the wealthy are corrupt, greedy and self-centered because even when they (the government)release the trifle or meager fund for upgrading the laboratories or building new ones to the latest standard the university administrators(VC,Bursar and the Register) and the leaders will embezzle it.

I graduated from UI also and I knew many times funds were looted by the VC and the university bursar even right from my 100 level days!!yet we face and curse our political leaders whereas all of us are worst and if the government decides to prosecute the offenders with efcc and icpc we,cry of witch-hunting and even defend the looters and say are the government officials also not looting? forgetting then when the foundation is weak a building won't stand!!

corruption needs to be tackled from the grassroots, as the youths that we see as the leaders of tomorrow are even worst come and see how the SU(student union executives) embezzle the institutions funds with reckless abandon which even trickles down to the departmental,faculty and hall of residences executives(governments) when I was in my final year my faculty president who was a female embezzled the faculty funds and grants and was even threatening that she couldn't be prosecuted is it someone like her that will get to the position of authority that won't embezzle billions of naira?if you can't be trusted with a little sum of money is it when you are faced with a larger sum you won't steal?

why those abroad universities are maintained and has up to date infrastructures are because they aren't fully government owned (joint ownership)infact they are almost privately owned that's why their tuition fees are costlier you know it's hard to embezzle from a private owned enterprise?that's why most private universities have good infrastructures in nigeria only they love exploiting their staffs!!
Re: UI Emerges Best Nigerian University In Law, Medicine by EDUECO(m): 8:05pm On Jan 25
ultraviolet27:
But not the government fault alone every Nigerians from the poor, unlettered,to the privileged and the wealthy are corrupt, greedy and self-centered because even when they (the government)release the trifle or meager fund for upgrading the laboratories or building new ones to the latest standard the university administrators(VC,Bursar and the register) and the leaders will embezzle it

I graduated from UI also and I knew many times funds were looted by the VC and the university even right from my 100 level days!!yet we face and curse our political leaders whereas all of us are worst and if the government decides to prosecute the offenders with efcc and icpc we,cry of witch-hunting and even defend the looters and say are the government officials also not looting? forgetting then when the foundation is weak a building won't stand

corruption needs to be tackled from the grassroots, as the youths that we see as the leaders of tomorrow are even worse come and see how the SU(student union executives) embezzle the institutions funds with reckless abandon which even trickles down to the departmental, faculty and hall of residences executives(governments) when I was in my final year my faculty president who was a female embezzled the faculty funds and grants and was even threatening that she couldn't be prosecuted is it someone like her that will get to the position of authority that won't embezzle billions of naira?if you can't be trusted with a little sum of money is it when you are faced with a larger sum you won't steal?

why those abroad universities are maintained and has up to date infrastructures are because they aren't fully government owned (joint ownership)infact they are almost privately owned that's why their tuition fees are costlier you know it's hard to embezzle from a private owned enterprise?that's why most private universities have good infrastructures in nigeria only they love exploiting their staffs!!
You have rightly stated the obvious corrupt acts taking place at various level of the Nigerian society .

Humans are the same all over the world and as such it is the judicial arm of government that correct or chastise those who break the law.So, corruption can only be fought by the government.And a corrupt government can't bring to book those embezzling funds for the building science laboratories in Nigerian schools.
Re: UI Emerges Best Nigerian University In Law, Medicine by DoTheNeedful:
EDUECO:
If Nigeria's science education is not as bad as you wrote,then why do folks like
yourself run away to places like the USA or the UK? Nigeria's science education is very poor;you can't practise science(whether Medicine, Dentistry,Engineering,Physics,et cetera) in an environment with poor laboratories and inadequate equipments.

China is the greatest country in modern scientific innovations and China's industries have the highest level of efficiency.From primary to tertiary education level, China's science laboratories are up to date;and this has resulted to 'Made in China' goods which is found in every countries of the world.
If Nigeria's science education were as terrible as you and people like you describe, I would not have been able to complete my Ph.D. over here in the US because the knowledge gap would have been insurmountably wide. I know a guy who graduated from one of the first generation Nigerian universities with a bachelors degree in Elect/Elect engineering . He got his Ph.D. from my school in the US within four years without completing a masters degree. He currently works at Intel. There are many stories like that I am familiar with.

If our doctors were terrible as you described, hospitals in the UK, US, Canada would not be employing them. Oyinbo people are not that dumb. People's competence are constantly evaluated here.

By the way, Nigerians are not the only people studying in the UK, US and so on. Hence, correlating "running away" to universities in countries like UK, US with the low quality of Nigerian universities is not smart on your part. More than half of the graduate student population in the US are from China, Iran, South Korea and India. The Chinese are the most dominant foreign undergraduate students in the US. Even the Chinese president's child graduated from an America university. In fact, most of the elites in China send the children to study in the US. You don't have to believe me. Do your research and get back to me.


Could you tell me any original scientific innovation coming out of China? Just one! Most of what China does is to make cosmetic additions to the groundbreaking work from the West and Japan. I would not argue with you any further on this.

Lastly, I felt the need to respond to you because of the young Nigerian graduates that might be reading the comments on this thread. They should never be discouraged by the negative mindsets of people like you. With a good First Class or Second-Class Upper degree, they could get into top schools abroad, graduate and excel in those advanced societies.

Have a great week ahead.
Re: UI Emerges Best Nigerian University In Law, Medicine by Kewekubosineh: 11:14pm On Jan 25
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SonOfDSoil01:
grin indeed Yoruba lagba……all thanks to Pa Awolowo who gave us free education which some peoples ancestors also benefited from but today their children who lack knowledge of history , are on SM trying to rewrite history……they will continue to play catch up because we no be anybody papa mate grin
LoL 😆

Clap for yourself!

Awolowo's free education produced half baked eites who are problems to the society today.

Take Note.
Re: UI Emerges Best Nigerian University In Law, Medicine by DMCA: 12:39pm On Jan 26
MadamVanessa:
shocked
Clown, I have passed my information and you got it and you're masturbating about English. Even you, you're not even better , making endless blunders but forming English guru.
U know with Stanley around a female does not need to masturbate, especially in NYSC cool
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