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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 9:02am On Jan 28
⚔U.S. Secretary of State Rubio says the U.S. is prepared to use force to ensure that Venezuela’s acting President cooperates to the greatest extent possible with the U.S. — Bloomberg
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 9:03am On Jan 28
⚔North Korea's Kim Jong Un oversees test-fire of upgraded missile system, hitting target 358 km away.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 9:04am On Jan 28
⚔North Korea carried out a test firing of an upgraded KN-25 600-mm super-large multiple rocket launcher (MRL).

Kim Jong Un said the new version has improved mobility and much higher accuracy, includes a self-guidance system, and is designed to resist outside interference or jamming.

About five missiles were launched in two rounds, each traveling 350-400 km.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 9:29am On Jan 28
LordAdam16:
not the least bit concerned about a blockade

iran has the strait of hormuz closure card
if we can't get our oil out, the gulf wouldn't either
oil goes to 200
the loudmouth will back off

also, iran and china have a direct rail connection through central asia




all the feelers being put out by the americans suggest they're preparing for a different war than iran is
the americans are planning this as another one of many rounds
the persians want a total all-out war to settle sh*t

that's why the americans are talking about precision strikes and eliminating officials
while persia is talking about a shia jihad

-Lord
There’s a lot of truth in this, especially the divergence in war aims, but a few realities are worth layering on top.

You’re right that Hormuz is Iran’s nuclear option short of nukes. Tehran doesn’t need to ā€œcloseā€ it Hollywood-style; partial disruption, insurance spikes, and sporadic hits are enough to send prices screaming past $150–$200. That pain wouldn’t just hit the Gulf monarchies — it would hit Europe first, then Asia. And yes, at that point the loudmouths suddenly rediscover diplomacy.

However, we must not forget that Hormuz is a mutual-assured-pain card, not a free move. Iran would take serious heat too — economically and militarily — the longer it stayed disrupted. Tehran knows this, which is why it’s a deterrent threat, not a button you press lightly.

On China, the rail link through Central Asia helps with strategic goods, not oil volumes. It’s great for sanctions evasion, weapons components, drones, spare parts — but it doesn’t replace tankers. China still needs the sea lanes calm enough to function. So Beijing’s interest is escalation control, not apocalyptic closure.

Where you’re dead-on is the war psychology gap.

---The US thinks in ā€œroundsā€: degrade, pause, signal, reset, elections, move on.
---Iran thinks in ā€œsettlementā€: once this crosses a threshold, end it decisively or die trying.


That’s why Washington talks about precision strikes, decapitation, and messaging.
And Tehran talks about jihad, martyrdom, and regional ignition.

Those aren’t just words — they reflect fundamentally different assumptions about what war is for both parties.

The real danger isn’t that Iran can’t hurt the US. It’s that the US may miscalculate how much pain Iran is willing to absorb to impose a new regional reality. Empires hate total wars. Civilizational states sometimes embrace them. Moreover, China is the big elephant in the room whose potential reaction the US might also be miscalculating right now.

That gap — more than Hormuz, railways, or oil prices — is where things go sideways.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16:
WriteerNg:
⚔Canadian Prime Minister Carney to visit India in March to sign major uranium, energy, minerals, and AI deals.
see this is one area where one must give credit where credit is due

look how quickly the western vassals are striking deals and moving fast
if na brics and global south, na photo ops and statements for full news

if the western vassals were facing the type of passive aggression that china and the rest of the brics+ have been receiving
they'd have created an alternate financial system years ago
as in it'll be done within 48 months--start to finish

see canada rolling with china after they kidnapped a huawei exec and india that it has been in a low-level diplomatic war with
eu inviting india into their defense enterprise even though india has a special relationship with russia (their arch enemy)
yet brazil didn't allow venezuela to join brics+ for "x" reasons
and the BRICS deliberately created a development bank -- the NDB -- that get this, and it isn't a typo, runs on the US DOLLAR
so the NDB cannot give limitless financial support to sanctioned members of the BRICS so as not to expose itself to secondary sanctions

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 9:37am On Jan 28
Scorpio99:
When I say "survive a first nuclear strike" I mean the affected country will still retain the ability to retaliate. Your article is talking about the devastating effects, I am not talking about that. And I seriously doubt the 2 billion people quotes. That is a quarter of the world population. There is some serious exaggerations in there.
You are not talking about devastating effects in a nuclear strike, I don’t even know how to respond to that šŸ˜†. If surviving a First Strike means retaliation to you, then just say the USA can survive a nuclear strike. If you don’t explain what you mean by first strike then with your analogy the USA can survive the destruction of North America in the second or third strikes as long as they retaliate with a nuclear submarine.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 9:38am On Jan 28
one of the best sparring statements of this usrael-iran confrontation came from a persian official

This time we will treat any American attack limited, unlimited, surgical, kinetic, whatever they call it, as an all-out war against us, and we will respond in the hardest way possible to settle this."
this is the way

the pale buff**ns cannot seek to establish an id***ic paradigm where every 6 months they kill thousands of iranians and systematically degrade the state and government while only receiving performative responses

the mistake has been made with the murder of soleimaini and the bombing of fordo
now persia must unleash hell even if it is only a bullet they fire
can't keep postponing the inevitable

fight the total war now and the let the chips fall where they may

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m):
LordAdam16:
the hubris of these 🤔🤔
šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ˜€

what was the size of china and india economies in the 80's?

-Lord
Dude is just beating ghosts in the air. He doesn't want to accept that the days of US primacy are over. East is where contemporary economic changes are happening. And the rest of the globe are pivoting there.

Let him keep wallowing in his make belief world.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 9:41am On Jan 28
WriteerNg:
⚔U.S. Secretary of State Rubio says the U.S. is prepared to use force to ensure that Venezuela’s acting President cooperates to the greatest extent possible with the U.S. — Bloomberg
I thought 🤔🤔 said operation Uber air was successful and the USA doesn’t need to invade. When we call them Hollywood 🤔🤔 it’s not an exaggeration.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 9:43am On Jan 28
LordAdam16:
persian and american drones carrying out surveillance side by side over the persian gulf today

they should send confectioneries to each other
šŸ¤£šŸ˜€šŸ˜‚

-Lord
grin grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 9:57am On Jan 28
They say gold knows when a crisis is coming. Forget about the wars, if gold keeps going up we may have a currency crisis.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 9:59am On Jan 28
LordAdam16:
even more persian drones deployed to the persian gulf
active surveillance of the lincoln and its strike group in progress

-Lord
The drones are mapping coordinates to be fed to hypersonics and anti ship missiles.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 9:59am On Jan 28
Appleyard:
There’s a lot of truth in this, especially the divergence in war aims, but a few realities are worth layering on top.

You’re right that Hormuz is Iran’s nuclear option short of nukes. Tehran doesn’t need to ā€œcloseā€ it Hollywood-style; partial disruption, insurance spikes, and sporadic hits are enough to send prices screaming past $150–$200. That pain wouldn’t just hit the Gulf monarchies — it would hit Europe first, then Asia. And yes, at that point the loudmouths suddenly rediscover diplomacy.

However, we must not forget that Hormuz is a mutual-assured-pain card, not a free move. Iran would take serious heat too — economically and militarily — the longer it stayed disrupted. Tehran knows this, which is why it’s a deterrent threat, not a button you press lightly.

On China, the rail link through Central Asia helps with strategic goods, not oil volumes. It’s great for sanctions evasion, weapons components, drones, spare parts — but it doesn’t replace tankers. China still needs the sea lanes calm enough to function. So Beijing’s interest is escalation control, not apocalyptic closure.

Where you’re dead-on is the war psychology gap.

---The US thinks in ā€œroundsā€: degrade, pause, signal, reset, elections, move on.
---Iran thinks in ā€œsettlementā€: once this crosses a threshold, end it decisively or die trying.


That’s why Washington talks about precision strikes, decapitation, and messaging.
And Tehran talks about jihad, martyrdom, and regional ignition.

Those aren’t just words — they reflect fundamentally different assumptions about what war is for both parties.

The real danger isn’t that Iran can’t hurt the US. It’s that the US may miscalculate how much pain Iran is willing to absorb to impose a new regional reality. Empires hate total wars. Civilizational states sometimes embrace them. Moreover, China is the big elephant in the room whose potential reaction the US might also be miscalculating right now.

That gap — more than Hormuz, railways, or oil prices — is where things go sideways.
the hormuz card is being seriously considered now
because these 🤔🤔 with their loose lips openly talked about assassinating khamenei and conducting a brutal 12d war type of decapitation strikes with the end game of regime change, activation of a multi-ethnic insurgency that engulfs all of iran from its west to its east; and potential balkanization of iran

that is an existential threat to not just the government but the sanctity of persia
that eliminates every argument against closing the strait of hormuz

china will have to get its oil from heaven
since they've sat pretty on the sidelines since forever
if russia cannot increase output, tough luck for them
when the war ends, trade will resume

the rail will have to serve
when the desired is not available, the available becomes desired

as for the eu
f*ck europe
merz and macron were cosplaying as regime change agents two weeks ago
they've gone quiet now post greenland
but let them eat cake




this is no more a manageable crisis
this is existential for persia

and they must treat it as such
in the absence of nukes
all options must be on the table

normally these are threats that after they're made
iran would conduct a nuclear test like russia does
and the 🤔🤔 will go quiet and complain about iran's recklessness

in fact, they should start issuing hour long notices to civilian shipping in the gulf and conducting anti-ship missile tests
that'll send a message and up the price by $2-5
persia must display unrefined madness
because they're not dealing with normal people

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 10:07am On Jan 28
WriteerNg:
⚔U.S. Secretary of State Rubio says the U.S. is prepared to use force to ensure that Venezuela’s acting President cooperates to the greatest extent possible with the U.S. — Bloomberg
see as persia and denmark don give madam rodriguez small morale

make she continue dey play the game sha
the objective has not changed
they must deploy troops that will get mowed down in the jungles of the andes

🤔🤔 think this is the 20th century

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 10:11am On Jan 28
WriteerNg:
Where's the so called "soft power" the buffoons here keep saying the US has.

All we keep hearing from the U.S is use of military force, force, force.

They want to use military force to achieve everything, even as little as trade. They can't even get anyone trading with them without using force to coerce them.

A failed nation and dying empire.
imagine threatening to deploy your air force
to force your neighbor to buy your jets

they're fully in "use it or lose it" mode
while desperately trying to avoid a miscalculation

but the law of averages does not favor them
eventually, like icarus, they'll fly too close to the sun
and there will be an aircraft carrier with a hole in it
or body parts of their troops strewn about like its gaza

let them keep pushing

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 10:15am On Jan 28
WriteerNg:
⚔U.S. intelligence assessments have raised doubts about whether interim Venezuelan President Delcy Rodriguez is fully aligned with the Trump administration’s strategy.
their make-belief honeymoon period did not even last up to one month

their shocked pikachu faces that blowing up fishing boats, kidnapping a president, and seizing tankers is being met with defiance

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:35am On Jan 28
LordAdam16:
šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜€

yesterday, uae
today, saudi

qatar, kuwait, and oman are implicitly also out of the equation

remain bahrain and jordan

make dem do quick declare their position
mk persia for set coordinates

this is why iran has not hastily conducted pre-emptive strikes
you catch more flies with honey than vinegar

-Lord
Oh, boy!!! This is exactly how quiet deterrence looks — lots of laughter on the surface, very serious math underneath.

MbS saying ā€œnot our airspace, not our territoryā€ isn’t theater; it’s Riyadh protecting itself from becoming a first-wave target. Same with the UAE. Once Gulf states start publicly fencing off their skies, the message to Washington is blunt: don’t assume regional basing is automatic anymore.

And you’re right — once Saudi and UAE step back, the rest fall like dominoes:
-- Qatar can’t risk Al Udeid becoming ground zero
-- Kuwait still remembers 1990 a little too well
-- Oman has built its entire foreign policy on being the fire extinguisher


That leaves Bahrain and Jordan, both structurally dependent and militarily exposed — which is exactly why they’re being watched so closely. Silence itself becomes a signal.

Your point about Iran’s restraint is key. Tehran isn’t rushing into pre-emptive strikes because the board is still rearranging in its favor. Every public refusal narrows US options, clarifies coordinates, and reduces ambiguity — and ambiguity is what planners hate most.

Why strike early when:
--- opponents are isolating themselves for you, and
--- potential launch corridors are shrinking by the day?

This is classic Persian statecraft: patience, positioning, and letting others declare first. Honey works better than vinegar when time itself is doing the work.

People mistake calm for weakness in geopolitics. In this case, it looks more like confidence that the geometry of the war is changing, and not in Washington’s favor.

Notwithstanding, here is a big BUT...


What if Washington calls their bluff and launch attacks from their territories anyway?

Till then, fingers crossed.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:42am On Jan 28
WriteerNg:


Guess who sells the Uranium to India?
Mother Russia. grin

Including all the energy. cool

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Nobody:
Mikasaobi:
You are not talking about devastating effects in a nuclear strike, I don’t even know how to respond to that šŸ˜†. If surviving a First Strike means retaliation to you, then just say the USA can survive a nuclear strike. If you don’t explain what you mean by first strike then with your analogy the USA can survive the destruction of North America in the second or third strikes as long as they retaliate with a nuclear submarine.
Mtcheeeew!!!! Oh mother of god!!!! Are you telling me the entire USA will be wiped out by a single strike? Or won't be able to retaliate? If you don't know, you would need almost a thousand different Tsar bomba strikes to wipe out the entire USA. See this drool putting what I didn't say into it. If the Tsar bomba or whatever you call it is your hope, better understand that the weapon is more of a show off than of actual use. Even a country the size of Monaco will not be totally wiped off in a single strike. They won't be able to retaliate and even the effects of radiation will take decades to totally wipe off Monaco (that is assuming there are no gas masks to assist with radioactive fallouts such as gamma rays and protective clothing to assist with the ones that will be absorbed by the body.)
It's no wonder you read and don't understand what you read. I shouldn't be educating an adult on simple sentences for devil's sake!!!

You don't even need to be a nuclear physicist to know things like this. Even the Tsar Bomba has a total blast radius of 22 miles!!!!

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 10:43am On Jan 28
Families of those killed in venezuela boats have started suing the US government
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/families-two-men-believed-killed-153023522.html

while our nvb 🤔🤔 were cheering the attacks
the us was and is still executing black migrant workers like them
all in a bid to steal oil

this is the tyranny that multipolarism must vanquish

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Nobody: 10:46am On Jan 28
Mikasaobi:
They say gold knows when a crisis is coming. Forget about the wars, if gold keeps going up we may have a currency crisis.
And tell me the country with the largest gold reserves. Even the next three countries (Germany, Italy and France) combined holdings still only just match the US. Mind you, those three are still US allies.
You are yet to understand your own problem.

Your darling Russia sits at number 5 with the US having a 3 times plus advantage over it. Better get some proper education and stop drooling about a currency collapse. Let it collapse, US still takes over in gold. Let gold collapse, crypto is next and US is still number one.

Get some proper education!!!
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 11:10am On Jan 28
Appleyard:
Mother Russia. grin

Including all the energy. cool



Starmer is in China, seeking trade deals.

The entire West is pivoting to the East.

The East is where it is at.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 11:15am On Jan 28
⚔About 700 houses in Kryvyi Rih have been left without heating

This was reported by the head of the city's defense council, Alexander Vilkul.

ā€œThere was an ā€˜emergency shutdown of several large boiler houses’ in the city, and ā€˜strong gusts on the main pipelines’ were also recorded,ā€ he wrote on his Telegram channel.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 11:15am On Jan 28
Scorpio99:
Maybe the dude doesn't understand the difference between assembly and production.
Exactly. šŸ˜…šŸ˜…
He doesn't know how long it takes to even put together the components responsible for the screen display technology, especially the AMOLED. People dull sha.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 11:25am On Jan 28
⚔Saudi Arabia Looks to Its Richest Families for Fresh Cash.

Saudi Arabia is turning to its wealthiest families to help fund the next phase of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s economic overhaul as pressure grows on public finances.

The Public Investment Fund has met with prominent families to gauge interest in investing alongside the state, while government agencies are increasing outreach to family offices and local businesses.

With oil revenues weaker and banks tightening lending, Riyadh is seeking alternative sources of capital. Family-owned firms — which dominate the private sector — are being encouraged to invest in areas such as private credit, technology, mining and real estate, and to partner with global investors.

Officials hope this will unlock hundreds of billions of dollars in domestic wealth to support Vision 2030 projects.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 11:28am On Jan 28
WriterrNg:


Starmer is in China, seeking trade deals.

The entire West is pivoting to the East.

The East is where it is at.
did you see the news planted by the intel agencies to embarrass starmer ahead of his trip to china

China hacked Downing Street phones for years
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/01/26/china-hacked-downing-street-phones-for-years/
published ydy

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 11:31am On Jan 28
⚔Iranian Foreign Minister Araghchi:

A negotiation proposal has not been presented by us. Various mediators are, of course, getting in touch.

Different countries are trying with good intentions, and we are in contact with them, of course.

However, no decision has been made yet. There is also no such request from our side.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 11:31am On Jan 28
⚔Keir Starmer has arrived in China.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 11:33am On Jan 28
⚔Syrian President Ahmed al-Sharaa has arrived in Moscow.

He will meet with President Putin.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 11:34am On Jan 28
LordAdam16:
the hormuz card is being seriously considered now
because these 🤔🤔 with their loose lips openly talked about assassinating khamenei and conducting a brutal 12d war type of decapitation strikes with the end game of regime change, activation of a multi-ethnic insurgency that engulfs all of iran from its west to its east; and potential balkanization of iran

that is an existential threat to not just the government but the sanctity of persia
that eliminates every argument against closing the strait of hormuz

china will have to get its oil from heaven
since they've sat pretty on the sidelines since forever
if russia cannot increase output, tough luck for them
when the war ends, trade will resume

the rail will have to serve
when the desired is not available, the available becomes desired

as for the eu
f*ck europe
merz and macron were cosplaying as regime change agents two weeks ago
they've gone quiet now post greenland
but let them eat cake




this is no more a manageable crisis
this is existential for persia

and they must treat it as such
in the absence of nukes
all options must be on the table

normally these are threats that after they're made
iran would conduct a nuclear test like russia does
and the 🤔🤔 will go quiet and complain about iran's recklessness

in fact, they should start issuing hour long notices to civilian shipping in the gulf and conducting anti-ship missile tests
that'll send a message and up the price by $2-5
persia must display unrefined madness
because they're not dealing with normal people

-Lord
There’s a brutal internal logic one can seduce from what you’re saying — and that’s exactly why this moment is so eerily dangerous.


Once senior figures openly float assassination, decapitation strikes, regime change, and balkanization, the issue stops being ā€œpolicy disagreementā€ and becomes existential. At that point, states don’t think in terms of proportionality or market stability; they think in terms of survival and sanctity. History is very clear on that.

From Tehran’s perspective, that kind of rhetoric vaporizes the old arguments against escalation. If the endgame being advertised is the destruction of Persia as a civilizational entity, then deterrence moves from restraint to shock. The Hormuz card stops being ā€œrecklessā€ and starts being the last non-nuclear lever available.

And you’re right about the hypocrisy downstream:

--- China enjoys discounted oil and strategic patience — until supply is no longer guaranteed.

-- Russia can posture, but capacity limits are capacity limits.

-- Europe talked loudly about regime change, then suddenly remembered it has economies, not bunkers.


That said, there’s a thin line between projecting ungovernable resolve and triggering a coalition that even existential logic can’t manage. The most effective deterrence historically hasn’t been chaos for its own sake — it’s been controlled unpredictability, enough to make planners lose sleep without forcing everyone else into a corner where they think escalation is their only option too. This is why China's continuous pacifism scares me. What's going on in Panda’s mind? Will he sees this occasion as an escalation too far to tolerate and unleash the dragon as a last option? We are on the brink of WW3.


You’re absolutely right on one thing though: this is no longer a ā€œmanageable crisis.ā€ Once existential language enters the arena, normal rules stop applying. States that pretend otherwise are usually the ones most shocked by what comes next.


The tragedy is that everyone involved seems to understand this — and is still gambling that the other side will blink first.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 11:34am On Jan 28
⚔UK's Prime Minister, Starmer arrived in Beijing.

He is accompanied by around 60 business figures, including executives from companies such as HSBC, GSK, Jaguar Land Rover & Airbus.

He aims to attract Chinese investment to the UK and expand access for British businesses to Chinese market.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 11:42am On Jan 28
⚔EU's Kaja Kallas:

Superpowers often overestimate their own power and underestimate their need for others.

You need others, always.


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