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GloriousGbola:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=ice+in+texas

GloriousGbola:
please tell us if you are defending actions lie this for the record
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=472741745301165
if efcc says your hotel is an area of interest they have the right to storm in in the middle of the night without a warrant like a gang of armed robbers?

raumdeuter:
This is MLK according to AI. Note peaceful protests was his hallmark, Not ramming police with cars

King was jailed several times. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) director J. Edgar Hoover considered King a radical and made him an object of COINTELPRO from 1963. FBI agents investigated him for possible communist ties, spied on his personal life, and secretly recorded him. In 1964, the FBI mailed King a threatening anonymous letter, which he interpreted as an attempt to make him commit suicide.[3] King won the 1964 Nobel Peace Prize for combating racial inequality through nonviolent resistance. In his final years, he expanded his focus to include opposition towards poverty and the Vietnam War.

In 1968, King was planning a national occupation of Washington, D.C., to be called the Poor People's Campaign, when he was assassinated on April 4 in Memphis, Tennessee. James Earl Ray was convicted of the assassination, though it remains the subject of conspiracy theories. King's death led to riots in US cities. King was posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1977 and Congressional Gold Medal in 2003. Martin Luther King Jr. Day was established as a holiday in cities and states throughout the United States beginning in 1971; the federal holiday was first observed in 1986. The Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., was dedicated in 2011.

raumdeuter:
So if law enforcement are chasing some robbers and they suspect they jumped into your compound, you think they shouldnt enter at that point?

GloriousGbola:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr.
did peaceful protests stop them from arresting him multiple times?

GloriousGbola:

we both know what happened in both those instances
as we discussed them extensively on this platform

raumdeuter:
So what is the correlation of this link to your question about ICE difference in Texas vs Minnesota?

GloriousGbola:
according to you, it is only in minesotta people are resisting or protesting against ice

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/texas-ice-protest-dilley-liam-conejo-ramos

so why are ice not at the protest in full riot gear and armed to the teeth ?

raumdeuter:
In all of these did MLK break the law or decide to start ramming cops with his car? Every argument he had would have vanished the moment he starts trying to ram cops with his car MLK knew this and that was why he advocated for non violent protests cos when you decide to be violent, you are breaking the law and lost all the argument you are trying to make

President Trump’s comments were a blunt distillation of his administration’s racial politics, which rest on the belief that white people have become the real victims of discrimination in America.

raumdeuter:
Minnesota govt officials are the ones resisting and refusing to cooperate with ICE, in Texas the govt officials cooperate with ICE which is why there are no ICE urges in Texas and Florida unlike in Minnesota

Those at the Dilley protest were local law enforcement who are protecting and cooperating with ICE what they will not do in Minnesota and its causing issues

GloriousGbola:
a more honest answer is minesotta is a blue state that did not vote for trump while texas is a red state that voted for trump

GloriousGbola:
please stop deflecting
was MLK arrested for peaceful protest or not?
or was peaceful protest against the law?
this is your argument - that the summary execution of renee good and alex pretti is justifed because they were breaking the law
your claim is that if they were peacefully protesting they would be alive today
i have shown you that martin luther king was arrested repeatedly during peaceful protests. people at civil rights sit in were attacked with dogs, with fire hoses
he was also targeted by the FBI
ironically those are the times trump is pining for
when black and brown people had no place
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/11/us/politics/trump-interview-white-people-discrimination.html
Trump Says Civil Rights Led to White People Being ‘Very Badly Treated’

ONLY THE REAL HARD FUKIN TRUTH !! pic.twitter.com/srciH1Y5xX

— Scott LoBaido (@ScottLoBaido) January 8, 2026

raumdeuter:
When you avoid such situation or advise/warn your younger ones to avoid it or when his parents warned him to avoid it, what was in your mind?
The shocking killing would not have happened if he didnt go to engage like he was warned not to

Actions have consequences you know that, which is why you always avoid such situations

raumdeuter:
People who protest can be arrested that is part of the deal they agreed to, but what MLK did not do was to attack officers and put their lives in danger, if he did his agitation would have been flawed

There is no parallels between MLK and Renee, Renee put the life of officers in danger
There are different levels to breaking the law, some law breaking can be more risky than others.
A person playing loud music and a person throwing using car to attack officers are both breaking the law but one is likely to get shot

obainojazz:
Yet Trump kept calling the officer that shot Ashli Babbitt a thug when they kept on trying to break through the door.
If she had stayed home na, nothing for happen abi and why’s there double standard in the two cases.

Jamiuokolaa:
You are still diverting away from the main issue here.
The consequence was not, and would NEVER be commensurate with the Action.
Its just like a 5 year old girl in daycare that was rude to her teacher, only for that one to break the girl's head into 6 places and send her to ICU.
All in the name of actions and consequences, You come dey ask us say why the girl rude in the 1st place.
Haba

obainojazz:
Yet Trump kept calling the officer that shot Ashli Babbitt a thug when they kept on trying to break through the door.
If she had stayed home na, nothing for happen abi and why’s there double standard in the two cases.

DeadPresidents:
E sure me die say for her time, them for dey talk say Rosa Parks was an attention-seeking oversabi. After all, you go reach your destination whether you stay front, back, middle or on top of the bus.

Or all those walkabout where dey constitute nuisance for Selma, Alabama during Jim Crow days.

Claudette Colvin (née Austin; September 5, 1939 – January 13, 2026) was an American pioneer of the 1950s civil rights movement and nurse aide. On March 2, 1955, she was arrested at the age of 15 in Montgomery, Alabama, for refusing to give up her seat to a white woman on a crowded, segregated bus. It occurred nine months before the similar, more widely known incident in which Rosa Parks, secretary of the local chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), helped spark the 1955 Montgomery bus boycott.[1]

Colvin was one of four plaintiffs in the first federal court case filed by civil rights attorney Fred Gray on February 1, 1956, as Browder v. Gayle, to challenge bus segregation in the city. In a United States district court, Colvin testified before the three-judge panel that heard the case. On June 13, 1956, the judges determined that the state and local laws requiring bus segregation in Alabama were unconstitutional. The case went to the United States Supreme Court on appeal by the state, which upheld the district court's ruling on November 13, 1956. One month later, the Supreme Court affirmed the order to Montgomery and the state of Alabama to end bus segregation. The Montgomery bus boycott was then called off after a few months. The court subsequently declared all segregation on public transportation unconstitutional.

[b]For many years, Montgomery's black leaders did not publicize Colvin's pioneering effort. She said, "Young people think Rosa Parks just sat down on a bus and ended segregation, but that wasn't the case at all."[2] Colvin's case was dropped by civil rights campaigners because she was unmarried and pregnant during the proceedings.[3][[/b]4] It is now widely accepted that she was not accredited by civil rights campaigners due to her circumstances. Rosa Parks said, "If the white press got ahold of that information, they would have [had] a field day. They'd call her a bad girl, and her case wouldn't have a chance."[3][5]

raumdeuter:
Disproportionate Response, One of the words I hate the most, The same justification that Palestinians give when they kill 1300 Israelis and expect Israelis to kill 1300 Palestinians back

Who told you consequences have to be commensurate? In what world you lived have consequences ever been commensurate? Spit at Mike Tyson and expect a commensurate response where he will also spit back.

Do you know how many wars have been fought because of a small you stepped on my feet or looked at me somehow?

WW2 started because some youths in Sarajevo killed Archduke Ferdinand, but people who didn't even know the origin of the issue collected reaching African villages millions died for it

Osama Bin Laden and his terrorist killed 2000 Americans n 9-11 and took own 3 towers, what would have been a commensurate action from the US? Maybe killing just 2000 Afghans and bombing just 3 of their buildings

If you are expecting a commensurate response then you will just tonight go and slap a soldier and expect a commensurate slap back. You know the world doesnt operate like that

raumdeuter:
Disproportionate Response, One of the words I hate the most, The same justification that Palestinians give when they kill 1300 Israelis and expect Israelis to kill 1300 Palestinians back

Who told you consequences have to be commensurate? In what world you lived have consequences ever been commensurate? Spit at Mike Tyson and expect a commensurate response where he will also spit back.

Do you know how many wars have been fought because of a small you stepped on my feet or looked at me somehow?

WW2 started because some youths in Sarajevo killed Archduke Ferdinand, but people who didn't even know the origin of the issue collected reaching African villages millions died for it

Osama Bin Laden and his terrorist killed 2000 Americans n 9-11 and took own 3 towers, what would have been a commensurate action from the US? Maybe killing just 2000 Afghans and bombing just 3 of their buildings

If you are expecting a commensurate response then you will just tonight go and slap a soldier and expect a commensurate slap back. You know the world doesnt operate like that

Jamiuokolaa:
How can you confidently type this when the whole world knows about RULES OF ENGAGEMENT (applicable to the Miltary) and USE OF FORCE POLICY (as applicable to ICE)?

Once again - Haba!!!!

GloriousGbola:
actually ww2 started because germany started unilterally taking over other countries territories - similar to how trump is claiming right to greenland today, and saying canada is 51st state

in the same way britain appeased him while starting up their war machine

BlueRayDick:
With 1.4m, how many batteries will come with the solar set up?

And like how long will it last on full charge? i.e if I decide to use it just for lightning, fan, TV and basic charging of phones and laptop in normal socket?(Excluding AC, pressing iron and microwave)

raumdeuter:
You want to talk about real life or fantasy? Where was this rule of engagement when the Rape of Berlin was going on? where was this rule of engagement when US was giving it to Afghanistan and Iraq, where was this rule of engagement when Israel vs Gaza was going on

Its only survivors that care about rules of engagement, let razabamza tell you, the first rule of engagement is staying alive. If you have reason to think your life will be in anger, you are allowed to do anything to save your life

raumdeuter:
Oh was that WW1 That started because of the killing of Archduke Ferdinand?

If its similar to Trump deal with Gereenland he would roll out military there an take it not try to buy it

I know you like claiming everything Trump does is the worst thing ever and sky is always falling

Jamiuokolaa:
You keep on using examples of war.

I didnt know ICE is fighting a war on the the streets of America against its civilians.

For context, the man who was killed posed no threat to the ICE officer’s life. That’s why the global outcry has been so fierce. His actions, whatever they were, did not justify a lethal response, and that imbalance is exactly what has triggered calls for full, independent investigations.

Once again - HABA!

GloriousGbola:
i am sure it is perfectly normal and acceptable for a president to start laying claim to a sovereign nation.

was it also ok when saddam invaded kuwait - they had also been laying claim to the nation before this
venezuela did the same thing in 2023 the esquetto region in guyana
that is the company trump is in. dictators trying to squeeze weaker nations.

Jamiuokolaa:
You keep on using examples of war.

I didnt know ICE is fighting a war on the the streets of America against it's civilians.

For context, the man who was killed posed no threat to the ICE officer’s life. That’s why the global outcry has been so fierce. His actions, whatever they were, did not justify a lethal response, and that imbalance is exactly what has triggered calls for full, independent investigations.

Once again - HABA!

raumdeuter:
Trump has not invaded Greenland and has proposed to buy them which is fairly legal.

Do you think it was acceptable for UK to lay claims to Gilbratar or Falkland Island?

The Falkland Islands (/ˈfɔː(l)klənd, ˈfɒlk-/;[7] Spanish: Islas Malvinas [ˈislas malˈβinas]), commonly referred to as The Falklands, is an archipelago in the South Atlantic Ocean on the Patagonian Shelf. The principal islands are about 300 mi (500 km) east of South America's southern Patagonian coast and 752 mi (1,210 km) from Cape Dubouzet at the northern tip of the Antarctic Peninsula, at a latitude of about 52°S. The archipelago, with an area of 4,700 sq mi (12,000 km2), comprises East Falkland, West Falkland, and 776 smaller islands. As a British Overseas Territory, the Falklands have internal self-governance, while the United Kingdom takes responsibility for their defence and foreign affairs. The capital and largest settlement is Stanley on East Falkland.

The islands are believed to have been uninhabited prior to European discovery in the 17th century. [/b]Controversy exists over the Falklands' discovery and subsequent colonisation by Europeans. At various times, the islands have had French, British, Spanish, and Argentine settlements. Britain reasserted its rule in 1833, but Argentina maintains its claim to the islands. In April 1982, Argentine military forces invaded the islands. British administration was restored two months later at the end of the Falklands War. In a [b]2013 sovereignty referendum, almost all of the votes cast were in favour of remaining a UK overseas territory. The territory's sovereignty status is part of an ongoing dispute between Argentina and the UK.

The population (3,662 inhabitants in 2021) consists of around 40% native-born Falkland Islanders, with the rest of the population being immigrants,[3] primarily from the United Kingdom, the South Atlantic island of Saint Helena, Chile, and the Philippines. Around 30% of the population are temporary residents, on short-term work visas or working at the RAF Mount Pleasant military base. English is the official and predominant language. Under the British Nationality (Falkland Islands) Act 1983, Falkland Islanders are British citizens.

GloriousGbola:
you think genocide starts in a vacuum?

you think war is required for genocide?