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Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Abdulasod: 9:56pm On Jan 30
oz4real83:
How about the man she committed the crime with? Nothing happens to him as usual, bunch of hypocrites embarassed
It's unfortunate that you're the hypocrite... The man was also flogged. It's in one of the pictures. The news only emphasized on the lady to suit an agenda... Pure sensationalism!
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Lukuluku69(m): 9:57pm On Jan 30
Sirmwill:
When a woman was brought to Jesus and condemned to death by stoning for Adultery
They wanted to hear what Jesus would say

Jesus, understanding the weaknesses of every human and seeing the hypocrisy of the people condemning her , he simply asked that anyone without sin should be the first to stone the woman

Everyone left the scene because there is no one without sin.
Then Jesus told her to go and sin no more!

Both the person who passed this judgement of flogging this woman,the people witnessing it and the person doing this flogging are all guilty of adultery!
Because they all have lusts in their hearts also.
So,who is in the right position to judge someone for adultery
No One
Because,every human is vulnerable also.
Therefore,it's all hypocrisy.

But,who is in the right position to set the sinner free,the one who has come to pay for that sin!


For believers of the existence and grace of Jesus,
He has come to pay for the punishment for every Human's sin and to give us the grace to sin no more
Out of love and not wickedness
The Jews brought that woman to Jesus for so many reasons. What you wrote up there is nor even close to why that woman was brought.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by AOB1: 9:59pm On Jan 30
BAILMONEY:
But old testament told you to stone them to death now grin


Whatcha say about that undecided
That's why they wrote the new testament and Islam refused to improve theirs. Hope you understand now
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by onuman: 9:59pm On Jan 30
OLAADEGBU:
This is believed to be one of the harshest corporal punishments carried out in the deeply conservative region since the adoption of Islamic law.
What Islamic law are you taking about?
Sharia criminal laws?

Indonesia never adopted sharia crimimal laws. Its only Aceh region in Indonesia which at times enforce sharia criminal laws.

The Arewa north Nigeria states that adopted sharia criminal laws must be prepared for Islamic Republic of Arewa.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Aprocco: 10:00pm On Jan 30
BAILMONEY:
But old testament told you to stone them to death now grin


Whatcha say about that undecided
Was there Christianity in old testament?
Where Old Testament says stone an adulterous woman to death and Jesus Christ says to the adulterous woman "I do not condemn you, go and sin no more"

What do you think a Christ- like person (Christian) will do?

We are followers of Christ and they are followers of their God who marry minors, older women, kills and preaches killing.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by olawonder(m): 10:00pm On Jan 30
Islam till I die! Who’d criticise this fair punishment if not criminals who love to do evil things with other people’s wives? They’re hypocrites online but if they catch another man with their wife they do worse than mere flogging!
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Lukuluku69(m): 10:04pm On Jan 30
Phabulous4:
This would have been everyone's fate. If not for Jesus, we will taste the wrath of our iniquities. However, for has many that have accept him as their Lord and saviour has been delivered from the cause of the law.

well you can still be flog like this on heart but you will escape the ultimate judgment which is eternal damnation.

accept Jesus today.
Lol

Was it not same Jesus whom you variously claimed to be God Himself or God the Son that dicated this same Laws to Moses? That anyone caught in Fornication/Adultery should be stoned till death comes?

Is he going to apologise to those stoned to death when he knew he was foing to change his mind some 2,026 years ago?
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Lukuluku69(m): 10:06pm On Jan 30
Aprocco:
Was there Christianity in old testament?
Where Old Testament says stone an adulterous woman to death and Jesus Christ says to the adulterous woman "I do not condemn you, go and sin no more"

What do you think a Christ- like person (Christian) will do?

We are followers of Christ and they are followers of their God who marry minors, older women, kills and preaches killing.
Was it not Jesus and his Dad in conjuction with the Holy Ghost that gave those Laws to Moses?

Or Jesus was not aware of the Laws his Dad gave to Moses?
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by SeriouslySense(m): 10:07pm On Jan 30
Man was not made for the law. Again we cannot fufill the laws because only God can fuifill the law, the law is sacred. Adam and even were not mearnt to live under the law, they were mearnt to live in perfect harmony and unity with God, they were not created for the laws. smiley

They were created to have dominion and to have eternal life with God as the center of their lives not the law.

God was suppose to be their everything not the laws. What did God say to Adam and even, do not eat from the tree at the center of the the garden, and the serpent Said to Eve, when you eat from this tree you will become like God, knowing Good from evil, and the fruits appeared tasty to eve.

The law looks appealing and humans used it for their selfish interests, it did not save any human. Only the grace and free gift of God saved humanity.

Before their eyes were opened, they had the glory, they had the dominion, And God always visited them and they spent time with Jesus. And they were clothed with glory not naked, God is able to cover, to give glory and strength to those who know him. They were glowing with Gods glory and the animals and creation were in harmony, not because of the law, but because of the active presence of the Creator and his nature in his creation. They were created in his image. cheesy


Flangelo12:
You've said nothing.

We live by laws.

Those laws are either secular, moral, or religious.

If religion becomes a cudgel, it must be total and all encompassing according to the scripture being followed.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by grandstar(m): 10:07pm On Jan 30
mrgreen4real:
This is f**kin brutal. What about the man that kpansh her? The belief does more ham than good.
He too was flogged.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Flangelo12: 10:11pm On Jan 30
SeriouslySense:
Man was not made for the law. Again we cannot fufill the laws because only God can fuifill the law, the law is sacred. Adam and even were not mearnt to live under the law, they were mearnt to live in perfect harmony and unity with God, they were not created for the laws. smiley

They were created to have dominion and to have eternal life with God as the center of their lives not the law.

God was suppose to be their everything not the laws. What did God say to Adam and even, do not eat from the tree at the center of the the garden, and the serpent Said to Eve, when you eat from this tree you will become like God, knowing Good from evil, and the fruits appeared tasty to eve.

The law looks appealing and humans used it for their selfish interests, it did not save any human. Only the grace and free gift of God saved humanity.
Just be writhing theology up and down.
When yoi go to court, use it as your defence.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by grandstar(m): 10:11pm On Jan 30
I don't know i9f they were daft or something. Every Indomesian knows that Aceh, where this flogging was carried out is quite strict regarding the application of Sharia.

Aceh probably acounts for less than 2% of the nation's population. They should have commited their sinful act in a more liberal environment.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by SeriouslySense(m): 10:19pm On Jan 30
Jesus said give to God what belongs to God and give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and he said my kingdom is not of this world. And Steven said, he saw the son of man in glory at the right hand of the father. This kingdom of God has not yet come to this world or better still has not yet become the kingdom of God.

This world will pass away but the word of God is eternal.


Flangelo12:
Just be writhing theology up and down.
When yoi go to court, use it as your defence.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Flangelo12: 10:22pm On Jan 30
SeriouslySense:
Jesus said give to God what belongs to God and give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and he said my kingdom is not of this world. And Steven said, he saw the son of man in glory at the right hand of the father. This kingdom of God has not yet come to this world or better still has not yet become the kingdom of God.

This world will pass away but the word of God is eternal.
But it would be the one you believe, right?

Those that have other beliefs are wasting their time.

grin
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by SeriouslySense(m): 10:28pm On Jan 30
When Satan fell from heaven and saw Jesus caring for the humanity and the creations he just made, he and his fallen angels swore to cause humanity to fall from grace into the dominion of the the law but later on, they orchestrated the creation of many deities on the planet to confuse humanity to prevent them from been saved, because God was going to make a way for redemption back to grace and glory.

After Adam and eve fell and became naked no longer covered by glory and grace, now fallen and dying due to the perfect laws. God proclaimed he will save humanity, he said to the woman, your seed will crush the head of the serpent. And Satan realized, God will make a way, so first they tried to pollute the DNA of humanity, so that they will not hold the image the image of God, Noah found grace in the eyes of God, and God saved humanity and preserved his image. Satan failed there, Okay now If Satan cannot destroy the image of God, he can make many gods with many stories that will confuse humanity.

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Flangelo12:
But it would be the one you believe, right?

Those that have other beliefs are wasting their time.

grin
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Flangelo12: 10:28pm On Jan 30
SeriouslySense:
When Satan fell from heaven and saw Jesus caring for the humanity and the creations he just made, he and his fallen angels swore to cause humanity to fall from grace into the dominion of the the law but later on, they orchestrated the creation of many deities on the planet to confuse humanity to prevent them from been saved, because God was going to make a way for redemption back to grace and glory

.
How can anyone believe this is sanity?
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Lukuluku69(m): 10:35pm On Jan 30
louken:
And Christ said: let he that is without sin be the first to cast the stone.
But Jehovah says: Stone them till death comes!
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by SeriouslySense(m):
Until you realize that you need salvation, until you are receive grace, then you will realize that there is a great hope afterall. The bible says, for those who see the gospel as foolisheness, they are perishing, they are dying, Jesus said I am the resurrection and the life and i will raise my Children in the last day. smiley

So just like eve, for you the tree of good and evil is appealing on the surface. But for me, God is everything. And one leads to the absence of God presence and the other leads to the presence and glory of God in everything, so that we are living and existing in God, without requiring laws, we are made perfect everything is due to God not us.


Do you really believe that human beings and their laws are keeping us safe and sane, let God remove his presence from a place, what you see is calls for murder and every kind of evil. It is his presence that keeps us in Check.

Flangelo12:
How can anyone believe this is sanity?
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Kukutente23: 10:50pm On Jan 30
AntiChristian:
Where was Jesus when his father was giving out these laws to Israel?

If a man is found lying with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel. If there is a virgin pledged in marriage to a man, and another man encounters her in the city and sleeps with her, you must take both of them out to the gate of that city and stone them to death—the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he has violated his neighbor’s wife. So you must purge the evil from among you. Deuteronomy 22:22-24

It seems the God of the Old Testament is not the same God in the new testament!
You should first educate us where the punishment for adultery is flogging is written in the Qur'an instead of running to the OT.
Is the Allah of the Sharia same with the one in the Qur'an?
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Kukutente23: 10:50pm On Jan 30
Lukuluku69:
But Jehovah says: Stone them till death comes!
That's a lie sir
You're simply using taqqiya
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Kukutente23: 10:54pm On Jan 30
Lukuluku69:
Lol

Was it not same Jesus whom you variously claimed to be God Himself or God the Son that dicated this same Laws to Moses? That anyone caught in Fornication/Adultery should be stoned till death comes?

Is he going to apologise to those stoned to death when he knew he was foing to change his mind some 2,026 years ago?
You have lied again sir
The punishment for fornication is not death in the OT
Even the adultery has specific conditions
Stop using taqqiya pls
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by obynokoko: 10:59pm On Jan 30
obi4eze:
This is both hilarious and ridiculous. What about the man? Was he lashed too?
The man was canned too but he didn't faint.that was why he didn't make headlines
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by SIRTee15: 11:00pm On Jan 30
richiemcgold:
If not for the violence attached to Islamic religion which I don't support, Sharia law is the best law I would've recommended for a country like Nigeria. My people are very corrupt and stubborn. Most especially looters in government, they should be executed by hanging. Same with 419, arm robbers, kidnappers, bandits, terrorists, Olosho and yahoo boys
There's shariah in the north, so u can relocate to sokoto to enjoy the beauty of the religion.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Lukuluku69(m): 11:06pm On Jan 30
Kukutente23:
You have lied again sir
The punishment for fornication is not death in the OT
Even the adultery has specific conditions
Stop using taqqiya pls
You are a waste of time.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by safarifarms(m): 11:08pm On Jan 30
QuinQQ:
Not beheading, stoned to death -as recommended in the OT
Oh, so they follow the recommendations of the OT too. Why not follow that of the NT where Jesus sets the woman free? They always prefer extremism.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Lukuluku69(m): 11:08pm On Jan 30
Kukutente23:
That's a lie sir
You're simply using taqqiya
So, Jehovah approved Fornication but not Adultery?

Lol
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by richiemcgold:
SIRTee15:
There's shariah in the north, so u can relocate to sokoto to enjoy the beauty of the religion.
Those ones are fake Sharia. They only apply it to the poor while they exempt the rich and political elites.

I'm talking about this Indonesian kind of Sharia law where tolerance for corruption, stealing and fornication is zero. Don't you think we need such strict laws in Nigeria?

Afterall, Indonesia is not a poor country, it has the largest economy in southeast Asia.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Flangelo12: 11:20pm On Jan 30
SeriouslySense:
Until you realize that you need salvation, until you are receive grace, then you will realize that there is a great hope afterall. The bible says, for those who see the gospel as foolisheness, they are perishing, they are dying, Jesus said I am the resurrection and the life and i will raise my Children in the last day. smiley

So just like eve, for you the tree of good and evil is appealing on the surface. But for me, God is everything. And one leads to the absence of God presence and the other leads to the presence and glory of God in everything, so that we are living and existing in God, without requiring laws, we are made perfect everything is due to God not us.


Do you really believe that human beings and their laws are keeping us safe and sane, let God remove his presence from a place, what you see is calls for murder and every kind of evil. It is his presence that keeps us in Check.
As I said, the God your believe in.

Others are sinners and would face damnation.

How this makes sense to an adult makes one concerned for mankind.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Lukuluku69(m):
Kukutente23:
You have lied again sir
The punishment for fornication is not death in the OT
Even the adultery has specific conditions
Stop using taqqiya pls
Deuteronomy 22:20-21 (KJV) But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the LovePeddler in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.


Read that slowly and if you need assistance >>>>>

If a girl loses are virginity before marriage (tokens of virginity not found for the damsel)

It that happens, Jehovah, Jesus and the Holy Spirit say stone her till she die.

Ask your Lawyer friends what is called circumstantial evidence.

I don't expect you to know because critical thinking is alien to you.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by SeriouslySense(m): 11:28pm On Jan 30
smiley Thanks, Now I rejoice and i give all glory to the one who saves. Without Jesus, how can i be.

Flangelo12:
As I said, the God your believe in.

Others are sinners and would face damnation.

How this makes sense to an adult makes one concerned for mankind.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Kukutente23: 11:28pm On Jan 30
Lukuluku69:
So, Jehovah approved Fornication but not Adultery?

Lol
Something close to that
What are you loling about
Allah approved rape
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Kukutente23: 11:29pm On Jan 30
Lukuluku69:
You are a waste of time.
You should read instead of wasting your time with taqqiya
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