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Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by REVEREND101: 11:44pm On Jan 30
oz4real83:
How about the man she committed the crime with? Nothing happens to him as usual, bunch of hypocrites embarassed
If you had read the post it said "a woman and her lover..." Just that using the woman as headline will provoke more reactions than using the man.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Lukuluku69(m): 11:44pm On Jan 30
Kukutente23:
Something close to that
What are you loling about
Allah approved rape
Just like Jehovah approved below?

Numbers 31:17-18 (KJV) Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Lukuluku69(m): 11:47pm On Jan 30
AOB1:
That's why they wrote the new testament and Islam refused to improve theirs. Hope you understand now
So, between Jehovah and Jesus, who is going to apologise to those stoned to death before the New Testament was "improved"?

Who?
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Kukutente23: 11:52pm On Jan 30
Lukuluku69:
Deuteronomy 22:20-21 (KJV) But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the LovePeddler in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.


Read that slowly and of you need assistance >>>>>

If a girl loses are virginity before marriage (tokens of virginity not found for the damsel)

It that happens, Jehovah, Jesus and the Holy Spirit say stone her till she die.

Ask your Lawyer friends what is called circumstantial evidence.

I don't expect you to know because critical thinking is alien to you.
Correction sir. This applies to a woman attempting to deceive her husband into marrying her as a virgin
This is the verse for fornication from same chapter 22

“If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out, 29then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Kukutente23: 11:52pm On Jan 30
Lukuluku69:
Just like Jehovah approved below?

Numbers 31:17-18 (KJV) Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
So where did your see approval for rape in the verse
Taqqiya again?
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Lukuluku69(m): 12:06am On Jan 31
Kukutente23:
So where did your see approval for rape in the verse
Taqqiya again?
Numbers 31:17-18 (KJV) Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Duhnce, those are baby war captives.

Jehovah says Moses and his so-called children can have them for their pleasure after having killed off the men and women that have known men.

So, please bring the verse where Allah supports Rape.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Lukuluku69(m): 12:09am On Jan 31
Kukutente23:
Correction sir. This applies to a woman attempting to deceive her husband into marrying her as a virgin
This is the verse for fornication from same chapter 22
Duhnce, what that simply tells you is that if the girl in question lost her virginity outside of marriage (if she married earlier, the present husband won't expect a virginity or would he?), she should be taken to her father's house and stoned till she dies.

She simply commited Fornication earlier.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Kukutente23: 12:46am On Jan 31
Lukuluku69:
Duhnce, what that simply tells you is that if the girl in question lost her virginity outside of marriage (if she married earlier, the present husband won't expect a virginity or would he?), she should be taken to her father's house and stoned till she dies.

She simply commited Fornication earlier.
Mugun, what that law implies is that two unmarried who fornicate should be allowed to marry each other.
The difference is in the liability. If the man is known, he has to marry her. But if she passes herself off as a virgin when she's not, she alone will bear the consequences
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Kukutente23: 12:51am On Jan 31
Lukuluku69:
Numbers 31:17-18 (KJV) Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Duhnce, those are baby war captives.

Jehovah says Moses and his so-called children can have them for their pleasure after having killed off the men and women that have known men.

So, please bring the verse where Allah supports Rape.
Can you bring the verse where Jehovah said Moses and the Israelites can have their pleasure as you claim here?


And they who guard their private parts, Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed -
Up here is Allah saying it's OK to have sex with their slaves. That's sexual slavery aka Rape abi no be so
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by johannu(m): 12:59am On Jan 31
For this kind of offence, Christianity would have offered the man and the woman an opportunity for repentance without brutality. Thank God for Jesus Christ and thank God for Christianity.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Lukuluku69(m): 1:22am On Jan 31
Kukutente23:
Mugun, what that law implies is that two unmarried who fornicate should be allowed to marry each other.
The difference is in the liability. If the man is known, he has to marry her. But if she passes herself off as a virgin when she's not, she alone will bear the consequences
Duhnce, Jehovah Says should a damsel be found nit with the tokens of virginity at marriage, she should be stoned till death comes..

Read the passage again
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Helinuss: 1:30am On Jan 31
RichBoy247:
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And your religion of pieces, married women are encouraged to sleep with any man they come across
The only married woman I ever slept with dey wear hijab. She is the first wife. Very beautiful. Tell me where in bible people are encourage to sleep around. Get sense
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Mordson: 2:02am On Jan 31
obi4eze:
This is both hilarious and ridiculous. What about the man? Was he lashed too?
Oga what is wrong with you? Can't you read the writeup before asking stupid questions? 🤨☹️
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Aprocco: 2:11am On Jan 31
Lukuluku69:
Was it not Jesus and his Dad in conjuction with the Holy Ghost that gave those Laws to Moses?

Or Jesus was not aware of the Laws his Dad gave to Moses?
God gave the laws,
Men could not meet the standards of the law,
Jesus was sent to fulfill the law
Jesus' lifetime can be summarized as an unending confrontation with the Pharisees (custodians of the law) and Saducees (the punishment scribes for offenders of the law).
Day and night they confronted Jesus for breaking the law by- healing on Sabbath, forgiving sins, calling himself son of God, his doctrine of grace against position of law against the adulterous woman, etc.

Jesus at the end says I have brought a better covenant. Rather than the law God gave Moses that you all struggle to obey by flesh, the Holy spirit is coming after me. It shall register the law in your hearts, bring all things to your remembrance and help you to fulfill them.

At the hour of Jesus' death, curtain of the Temple tore. Man didn't need to go to God through Priests any more because of the sacrifice of the Jesus, the High Priest. The Laws obtain through Moses, the ancient priest, gave way for the new law (Grace) handed down by Jesus who till date still mediates for men before God as the olden days' priests as Moses did.

In summary-
Christ and Christianity is all about new laws promulgated by Jesus Christ. In fact, that was the crux of his Ministry and that was the offence for which he was persecuted, prosecuted and crucified. Speaking against the law of God- Blasphemy.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by SIRTee15: 2:58am On Jan 31
richiemcgold:
Those ones are fake Sharia. They only apply it to the poor while they exempt the rich and political elites.

I'm talking about this Indonesian kind of Sharia law where tolerance for corruption, stealing and fornication is zero. Don't you think we need such strict laws in Nigeria?

Afterall, Indonesia is not a poor country, it has the largest economy in southeast Asia.
China and Singapore has strict laws and they don't have shari'ah.

Crime is also low in other parts of Indonesia without shari'ah, Infact one of the safest region in th country are Christian dominated regions.

Afghanistan has very extreme form of strict shari'ah but nobody wants to live there.

The corrupt nature of an average Nigerian will make implementation of any shari'ah law a joke and very bias. If u think any politician's hand will be cut for stealing under shari'ah, u living in delulu land.

And we don't need shari'ah to make the country safe or politicians do the right thing. The laws are there already, enforcement is the problem.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by wilyparker(m): 3:05am On Jan 31
Check the first page and read Sirmwill comment
BAILMONEY:
But old testament told you to stone them to death now grin


Whatcha say about that undecided
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by BrighterSyde: 3:41am On Jan 31
QuinQQ:
Not beheading, stoned to death -as recommended in the OT
Yes. As said in the OT which is no longer followed as Jesus came to abolish those laws but which the barbaric sharia law follows. I have no issues with sharia actually other than the fact that Muslims want it imposed all over the world. We will not follow any useless prophet.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Teymanhenry(f): 3:46am On Jan 31
Don't be surprised to hear that the judge who rules the punishment is a pedophile .
I told my aunt who's a Muslim that it's things like this that makes me have deep disgust for Islam. This act is just barbaric
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by ARISHEM: 4:15am On Jan 31
Islamic definition of making peace
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Denko2721987(m): 4:50am On Jan 31
obi4eze:
This is both hilarious and ridiculous. What about the man? Was he lashed too?
Una no they read of see sef? Can't u see the man been flogged in the photo?? Na wa oh. Even to read na problem
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Flexyup: 4:53am On Jan 31
Franking:
Gibberish.
O. Y. Own
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Nobody: 5:03am On Jan 31
Sirmwill:
When a woman was brought to Jesus and condemned to death by stoning for Adultery
They wanted to hear what Jesus would say

Jesus, understanding the weaknesses of every human and seeing the hypocrisy of the people condemning her , he simply asked that anyone without sin should be the first to stone the woman

Everyone left the scene because there is no one without sin.
Then Jesus told her to go and sin no more!

Both the person who passed this judgement of flogging this woman,the people witnessing it and the person doing this flogging are all guilty of adultery!
Because they all have lusts in their hearts also.
So,who is in the right position to judge someone for adultery
No One
Because,every human is vulnerable also.
Therefore,it's all hypocrisy.

But,who is in the right position to set the sinner free,the one who has come to pay for that sin!


For believers of the existence and grace of Jesus,
He has come to pay for the punishment for every Human's sin and to give us the grace to sin no more
Out of love and not wickedness
this popular story that wasn't part of the original Gospel of John but was added around 4th or 5th century. huh In the future it might be updated again
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Ishilove: 5:48am On Jan 31
SeriouslySense:
Jesus said give to God what belongs to God and give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and he said my kingdom is not of this world. And Steven said, he saw the son of man in glory at the right hand of the father. This kingdom of God has not yet come to this world or better still has not yet become the kingdom of God.

This world will pass away but the word of God is eternal.
I wonder why you throw your pearls at pigs.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by teeji9: 6:14am On Jan 31
.."What about"-ism will get nothing resolved, however Jesus coming has resolved the "issues" with the old law. This why naysayers will always go back to the old testament but never fault the new testament. Just go outside somewhere calm with nothing man-made around, take a very deep breath and say "Lord help my unbelief" as many time as you can 👍
AntiChristian:
Where was Jesus when his father was giving out these laws to Israel?

If a man is found lying with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel. If there is a virgin pledged in marriage to a man, and another man encounters her in the city and sleeps with her, you must take both of them out to the gate of that city and stone them to death—the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he has violated his neighbor’s wife. So you must purge the evil from among you. Deuteronomy 22:22-24

It seems the God of the Old Testament is not the same God in the new testament!
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by FuckYeyeMods: 6:15am On Jan 31
Sirmwill:
When a woman was brought to Jesus and condemned to death by stoning for Adultery
They wanted to hear what Jesus would say

Jesus, understanding the weaknesses of every human and seeing the hypocrisy of the people condemning her , he simply asked that anyone without sin should be the first to stone the woman

Everyone left the scene because there is no one without sin.
Then Jesus told her to go and sin no more!

Both the person who passed this judgement of flogging this woman,the people witnessing it and the person doing this flogging are all guilty of adultery!
Because they all have lusts in their hearts also.
So,who is in the right position to judge someone for adultery
No One
Because,every human is vulnerable also.
Therefore,it's all hypocrisy.

But,who is in the right position to set the sinner free,the one who has come to pay for that sin!


For believers of the existence and grace of Jesus,
He has come to pay for the punishment for every Human's sin and to give us the grace to sin no more
Out of love and not wickedness
Weakness of every human..
May God text you with DNA wahala... Be typing rubbish.. hypocrites.
Pastors couldn't take it any more, they resorted to the true teachings, you have the right to divorce a toxic gold digger partner.
Keep deceiving yourselves and keep denying the truth.
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by arantess: 6:20am On Jan 31
Lukuluku69:
Abolished it?

How?

Can you quote the relevant verse/s?

I will wait.
wrong choice of word by me.

he didnt abolish by issuing a command or decree, rather by rendering stoning at variance with his teaching of mercy and forgiveness, thereby fulfilling the law in himself

its in that whole context i tried to wrap it up as "abolish"
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by NOETHNICITY(m): 6:56am On Jan 31
Sirmwill:
When a woman was brought to Jesus and condemned to death by stoning for Adultery
They wanted to hear what Jesus would say

Jesus, understanding the weaknesses of every human and seeing the hypocrisy of the people condemning her , he simply asked that anyone without sin should be the first to stone the woman

Everyone left the scene because there is no one without sin.
Then Jesus told her to go and sin no more!

Both the person who passed this judgement of flogging this woman,the people witnessing it and the person doing this flogging are all guilty of adultery!
Because they all have lusts in their hearts also.
So,who is in the right position to judge someone for adultery
No One
Because,every human is vulnerable also.
Therefore,it's all hypocrisy.

But,who is in the right position to set the sinner free,the one who has come to pay for that sin!


For believers of the existence and grace of Jesus,
He has come to pay for the punishment for every Human's sin and to give us the grace to sin no more
Out of love and not wickedness
This story is a concocted one, an interpolation and evidence of the corruption of the Bible. It does not appear in the earliest manuscripts of the Bible
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by DeGLORIOUS: 7:23am On Jan 31
in as much as I don't support sex before marriage, this act should have been carried out by someone who claims has no sin and not by anyhow person. In the eye of sin, we're all quilty in one way or the other. The difference is that we may not have been caught. This is harsh and humiliating
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by Bimow: 7:48am On Jan 31
This is what one useless man seeking to become governor said he will impose.
They are adults!!!
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by BAILMONEY: 7:59am On Jan 31
Aprocco:
Was there Christianity in old testament?
Where Old Testament says stone an adulterous woman to death and Jesus Christ says to the adulterous woman "I do not condemn you, go and sin no more"

What do you think a Christ- like person (Christian) will do?

We are followers of Christ and they are followers of their God who marry minors, older women, kills and preaches killing.
Show me where the word CHRISTIANITY was mentioned in the so called new testament

I mean the word CHRISTIANITY not CHRISTIAN
Re: Unmarried Woman Flogged 140 Times In Indonesia For Having Sex, Drinking Alcohol by BAILMONEY: 8:03am On Jan 31
AOB1:
That's why they wrote the new testament and Islam refused to improve theirs. Hope you understand now
You mean the scribes that changed the word of Godhuh
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