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Flangelo12:
But old testament told you to stone them to death now grin


Whatcha say about that

They would avoid that part.

Ignorance is bliss! 😂
Firstly, the OT is more Jewish than Christian, it is the book called the Taurat by you Muslims and yes, it is also an Islamic book but you aren't knowledgeable enough to know this. The Muslims call it Taurat while Jews call it the Torah and the Christians call it the Old testament.
Away from that, how many Christians or Jews do you see practicing those archaic laws of Moses (in the Taurat/Torah/OT) in this age and time?
Show me a clip of Jews/Christians beheading or stoning an adulterous person like the Muslims are still doing in this age and time. We are waiting.
The Torah is an originally Jewish book shared by both the Muslims (as Taurat) and the Christians (as the Old testament), it's ignorance that's making you think it belongs to the Christians😂
Knowledge is power, get yourself properly educated about things before disgracing yourselves on public fora.

UrVillageChief:
Ignorance is bliss! 😂
Firstly, the OT is more Jewish than Christian, it is the book called the Taurat by you Muslims and yes, it is also an Islamic book but you aren't knowledgeable enough to know this. The Muslims call it Taurat while Jews call it the Torah and the Christians call it the Old testament.
Away from that, how many Christians or Jews do you see practicing those archaic laws of Moses (in the Taurat/Torah/OT) in this age and time?
Show me a clip of Jews/Christians beheading or stoning an adulterous person like the Muslims are still doing in this age and time. We are waiting.
The Torah is an originally Jewish book shared by both the Muslims (as Taurat) and the Christians (as the Old testament), it's ignorance that's making you think it belongs to the Christians😂
Knowledge is power, get yourself properly educated about things before disgracing yourselves on public fora.

You Muslims he says.

It's in the Bible.

Stop the filibuster and tell us what part of the Bible should be discarded.

Simple.

wellmax:
And how many persons have you seen Christian stone to death

Please ask the ode and those who liked the unreasonable comment. They waste no time referencing the Old testament to justify their cavemen acts and terrorism not knowing that this particular book (the Old testament) is not even a Christian book and no Christian is following the laws (the most important part) and if they think otherwise, ask them to give you proofs of where Christians are seen enforcing the laws of beheading, flogging or stoning as commanded by Moses/Musa in the OT/Taurat/Torah.
Little do many of them know that the Old testament is also an Islamic book as the book is a shared story among Christianity, Judaism and Islam with Judaism being the real custodian🤣🤣😂
The problem with this generation is that people hardly read.

Lukuluku69:
Duhnce, Jehovah Says should a damsel be found nit with the tokens of virginity at marriage, she should be stoned till death comes..

Read the passage again

And how does that imply fornication is punishable by death? This is simple English mugun
The other verse says if a man is found sleeping with an unmarried woman, he must marry her
This is very simple to decipher the difference for an average mind. Is your mind below average?

Flangelo12:
You Muslims he says.

It's in the Bible.

Stop the filibuster and tell us what part of the Bible should be discarded.

Simple.

You keep disgracing yourself😂😂
Education is a good thing, my friend.
It's actually also in your Quran but you are not knowledgeable enough to know.
I'm not even a Christian (so you know)
The Jews are the real owners of the book and they call it the Torah but you Muslim folks call it the Taurat while the Christians call it the old testament. It is never a Christian book, be teachable my friend.
Away from that, how many Christians or even Jews have you seen enforcing those archaic laws of the OT/Torah/Taurat in this modern age like the Muslims are still doing? That's the real bone of contention here.

oz4real83:
How about the man she committed the crime with? Nothing happens to him as usual, bunch of hypocrites

Did you read the entire post? It states that the man was also beaten.

The following was extracted from the post.

“Police lashed a woman and her lover 140 times each for having sex outside marriage and drinking alcohol in a far-flung region of Indonesia on Thursday”

mrgreen4real:
This is f**kin brutal. What about the man that kpansh her? The belief does more ham than good.

You don't have eyes can't you see the man being flogged

UrVillageChief:
You keep disgracing yourself😂😂
Education is a good thing, my friend.
It's actually also in your Quran but you are not knowledgeable enough to know.
I'm not even a Christian (so you know)
The Jews are the real owners of the book and they call it the Torah but you Muslim folks call it the Taurat while the Christians call it the old testament. It is never a Christian book, be teachable my friend.
Away from that, how many Christians or even Jews have you seen enforcing those archaic laws of the OT/Torah/Taurat in this modern age like the Muslims are still doing? That's the real bone of contention here.

Well, I'm not a muslim, so you know.

Stop.thd hypocrisy.

Reason I've abandoned all religions is the hypocrisy.

You follow your holy book or you don't.

You can't pick and choose chapters and verses.

NOETHNICITY:
This story is a concocted one, an interpolation and evidence of the corruption of the Bible. It does not appear in the earliest manuscripts of the Bible

Concocted? By who pls?
You seem to have confused not appearing in the earlier manuscripts with not appearing in the Gospel of John initially
And it's not a concoction. The veracity of the story is not in doubt

taiwiki:
this popular story that wasn't part of the original Gospel of John but was added around 4th or 5th century. In the future it might be updated again

The story is authentic. That it was earlier omitted and later added us not in doubt just as the authenticity isn't in doubt

Sirmwill:
When a woman was brought to Jesus and condemned to death by stoning for Adultery
They wanted to hear what Jesus would say

Jesus, understanding the weaknesses of every human and seeing the hypocrisy of the people condemning her , he simply asked that anyone without sin should be the first to stone the woman

Everyone left the scene because there is no one without sin.
Then Jesus told her to go and sin no more!

Both the person who passed this judgement of flogging this woman,the people witnessing it and the person doing this flogging are all guilty of adultery!
Because they all have lusts in their hearts also.
So,who is in the right position to judge someone for adultery
No One
Because,every human is vulnerable also.
Therefore,it's all hypocrisy.

But,who is in the right position to set the sinner free,the one who has come to pay for that sin!


For believers of the existence and grace of Jesus,
He has come to pay for the punishment for every Human's sin and to give us the grace to sin no more
Out of love and not wickedness

This is a fake story because Jesus said he came to uphold the law of Moses. What does the law of Moses day concerning adultery?

oz4real83:
How about the man she committed the crime with? Nothing happens to him as usual, bunch of hypocrites

Read the story properly.

Kukutente23:
The story is authentic. That it was earlier omitted and later added us not in doubt just as the authenticity isn't in doubt

just like how some verses are now removed again after being there for decades. And the reason is there were not there in the first place. This would be removed in future updates. Honest question, Why would you defend addition and subtraction to the word of God when it is forbidden?

tete7000:
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And we are the era or new testament, era of mercy and grace. God himself has appeared to us in human form to put an end to old barbarism. Christianity is not built on old testament. If a man is in Christ, old things have passed away, all things become new.

Now let's hear from the master himself


Matthew 5:18 (NIV):

"For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished

Which LAW is Christ referring to here🤔

Lukuluku69:
So, between Jehovah and Jesus, who is going to apologise to those stoned to death before the New Testament was "improved"?

Who?

Everything has changed no one is stoning people to death again in Christianity but Islam has not changed theirs since it was written. To your question everyone is going to answer for their sin in the presence of God but those that wrote the Bible and Qoran and those that has stone people to death in the bible in the old testament and those that are still stoning people to death in Islam till date. Whoever that wrote those books and the people that carry out the stoning stuff all of you has question to answer before God.

BAILMONEY:
Now let's hear from the master himself


Matthew 5:18 (NIV):

"For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished

Which LAW is Christ referring to here🤔

You guys quote what you don't understand. Everything in the old testament is figurative, their meaning and essence are found in Christ. When he hung on the cross, he cried out and said "it is finished" meaning every letter of the what is written in the torah has been accomplished in him. When he died, the veil of the temple broke into two, the era of the old testament gave way to era of mercy and grace. A woman who was caught in the very act of adultery was brought to Christ, she was meant to die by your said cruel law of stoning, Christ convicted her accusers setting her free with instruction to go and sin no more (John8). Stay there in your ignorance and foolishness, the kingdom of God has overtaken you.

tete7000:
You guys quote what you don't understand. Everything in the old testament is figurative, their meaning and essence are found in Christ. When he hung on the cross, he cried out and said "it is finished" meaning every letter of the what is written in the torah has been accomplished in him. When he died, the veil of the temple broke into two, the era of the old testament gave way to era of mercy and grace. A woman who was caught in the very act of adultery was brought to Christ, she was meant to die by your said cruel law of stoning, Christ convicted her accusers setting her free with instruction to go and sin no more (John8). Stay there in your ignorance and foolishness, the kingdom of God has overtaken you.

Deuteronomy 21:22-24says

If a man commits a crime and you hang him on the cross, you shall by no means bury him that same day, for whosoever is hanged on the cross is an accursed of God.


BROS GET SENSE NOW🙄

It's to give the person 100 lashes that is if the person is not married and if the person is married and commit fornication or adultery the person would be stored to death

QuinQQ:
Not beheading, stoned to death -as recommended in the OT

There's no room for rapist and homosexualism in that community unlike America and other Christendom that support same sex marriage.

Kukutente23:
Concocted? By who pls?
You seem to have confused not appearing in the earlier manuscripts with not appearing in the Gospel of John initially
And it's not a concoction. The veracity of the story is not in doubt

Why then is it missing in the earliest manuscript? Even in the Gospel of John in the codex siniaticus that episode is missing.
Also, scholars of textual criticism have observed that the writing style of this very addition has noticeable dissimilarities with the traditional writing style of John

The woman should have stood up and twerk small after the second lash to confuse the flogger abi the flogger no get preek and eyes.



The dude go lose composure, the remaining lashes go dey light.

You made my day with this comment.

Sirmwill:
When a woman was brought to Jesus and condemned to death by stoning for Adultery
They wanted to hear what Jesus would say

Jesus, understanding the weaknesses of every human and seeing the hypocrisy of the people condemning her , he simply asked that anyone without sin should be the first to stone the woman

Everyone left the scene because there is no one without sin.
Then Jesus told her to go and sin no more!

Both the person who passed this judgement of flogging this woman,the people witnessing it and the person doing this flogging are all guilty of adultery!
Because they all have lusts in their hearts also.
So,who is in the right position to judge someone for adultery
No One
Because,every human is vulnerable also.
Therefore,it's all hypocrisy.

But,who is in the right position to set the sinner free,the one who has come to pay for that sin!


For believers of the existence and grace of Jesus,
He has come to pay for the punishment for every Human's sin and to give us the grace to sin no more
Out of love and not wickedness

Bakrabas:
There's no room for rapist and homosexualism in that community unlike America and other Christendom that support same sex marriage.

So the pple they flogged are homosexuals ??
They ddnt even commit adultery so whats their offence ?? Dating each other??


Why dont you pple make alcohol contraband in your country…instead of allowing alcohol into the country then start flogging commoners for buying but allowing the rich… is islam even a faith or just a tool of oppression??

Amtasiu:
It's to give the person 100 lashes that is if the person is not married and if the person is married and commit fornication or adultery the person would be stored to death

Where in the OT do you see 100 lashes?

NOETHNICITY:
Why then is it missing in the earliest manuscript? Even in the Gospel of John in the codex siniaticus that episode is missing.
Also, scholars of textual criticism have observed that the writing style of this very addition has noticeable dissimilarities with the traditional writing style of John

But the veracity is not in doubt
So the story and its moral teachings stand

taiwiki:
just like how some verses are now removed again after being there for decades. And the reason is there were not there in the first place. This would be removed in future updates. Honest question, Why would you defend addition and subtraction to the word of God when it is forbidden?

What verses are removed?
This story cannot be removed because the veracity is not in doubt
The story is the word of God. Or is Jesus no longer the son of God?

AOB1:
Everything has changed no one is stoning people to death again in Christianity but Islam has not changed theirs since it was written. To your question everyone is going to answer for their sin in the presence of God but those that wrote the Bible and Qoran and those that has stone people to death in the bible in the old testament and those that are still stoning people to death in Islam till date. Whoever that wrote those books and the people that carry out the stoning stuff all of you has question to answer before God.

So, Moses on his own wrote a lie and attributed it to Jehovah about the command to stone Adulterous individuals?

By extension, all the commandments were just Moses messing with the Isralites heads and minds?

Do you people ever engage your thinking faculties before you attempt or when you try to explain away the obvious fact that you have deviated from what God commands?

Is it not in the Bible that God said His Laws are FOREVER?

Psalm 119:152: "Concerning Your testimonies, I have known of old that You have founded them forever".
Psalm 111:7-8: "All His precepts [commandments] are sure. They stand fast forever and ever".
Psalm 119:160: "The sum of your word is truth, and every one of your righteous rules endures forever".
Matthew 5:18: Jesus says, "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished".
Luke 16:17: "It is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail".
Psalm 119:89: "Your word, Lord, is eternal; it stands firm in the heavens".

Some people are just commenting without reading the post. Both the man and woman were flogged, there is even a picture of the man getting flogged. Na why una no no book.

After enduring this kind of barbaric laws, they will escape to a free country and still want to impose the same sharia nonsense on their hosts. Bunch of confused clowns.

Kukutente23:
What verses are removed?
This story cannot be removed because the veracity is not in doubt
The story is the word of God. Or is Jesus no longer the son of God?

Here are the Bible verses removed from modern translations:
- Matthew 17:21
- Matthew 18:11
- Matthew 23:14
- Mark 7:16
- Mark 9:44, 46
- Mark 11:26
- Mark 15:28
- Luke 17:36
- Luke 23:17
- John 5:4
- Acts 8:37
- Acts 15:34
- Acts 24:6-8
- Acts 28:29
- Romans 16:24
- 1 John 5:7-8
- Mark 16:9-20 (source Meta AI) you can confirm this. God begets none nor was He begotten.