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Christistruth03:
You don't have a clue do you ?
The Egun of Badagry originated from Ife

egun and Yorubas even have the same root
egun descended from Onipopo who was Oduduwa's Son and they migrated from Ife

the awori were in the Badagry Area before the egun

The egun Settled in Badagry as War refugees when the King Of Dahomey attacked ouidah
In Benin Republic their Original homeland in the 17th century

By the way ouidah is from a Yoruba Word Wida Which was the Yoruba name of a bird that was abundant in the Area

They Settled in Badagry on Land that was given to them by the Alapa of Apa a Yoruba King In Badagry LG Who wears a beaded Ife Crown like the Oba Of Badagry

The egun , Of Nigeria and Benin Republic the Ewe Of Togo And Ghana and the Ga of Ghana in Accra Area are Basically the same People they are all of Yoruba Ancestry but adopted the Gbe Language
Of their Fon neighbours

The Alaafin Of Oyo was the Former Overlord Of them all


That crown on the oba badagry head is an ife beaded crown it is the Ooni of ife's Property that was gifted only to the ife Princes
Examine it well

Only Obas descended from Oduduwa wear it
and Only the Ooni of ife gives them out and authorise their use by a monarch
and it has been so for the last 1000 years

Once any Yoruba Person see's that crown on any Monarch's head, the full story of his lineage and Ancestry from Oduduwa's ife Princes has been told.

If you want to dispute the History of Lagos with us we will take you to the Cleaners and even the dry Cleaners with evidence

Blablabla

Christistruth03:
You don't have a clue do you ?
The Egun of Badagry originated from Ife

egun and Yorubas even have the same root
egun descended from Onipopo who was Oduduwa's Son and they migrated from Ife

the awori were in the Badagry Area before the egun

The egun Settled in Badagry as War refugees when the King Of Dahomey attacked ouidah
In Benin Republic their Original homeland in the 17th century

By the way ouidah is from a Yoruba Word Wida Which was the Yoruba name of a bird that was abundant in the Area

They Settled in Badagry on Land that was given to them by the Alapa of Apa a Yoruba King In Badagry LG Who wears a beaded Ife Crown like the Oba Of Badagry

The egun , Of Nigeria and Benin Republic the Ewe Of Togo And Ghana and the Ga of Ghana in Accra Area are Basically the same People they are all of Yoruba Ancestry but adopted the Gbe Language
Of their Fon neighbours

The Alaafin Of Oyo was the Former Overlord Of them all


That crown on the oba badagry head is an ife beaded crown it is the Ooni of ife's Property that was gifted only to the ife Princes
Examine it well

Only Obas descended from Oduduwa wear it
and Only the Ooni of ife gives them out and authorise their use by a monarch
and it has been so for the last 1000 years

Once any Yoruba Person see's that crown on any Monarch's head, the full story of his lineage and Ancestry from Oduduwa's ife Princes has been told.

If you want to dispute the History of Lagos with us we will take you to the Cleaners and even the dry Cleaners with evidence

Language is a good way of classifying people though you are right some languages are adopted. Badagry was under the Oyo empire and it has indigenes who are Yoruba but minority. However the original people who owned that language could have been red indians who landed in west Africa for all we know. The language is quite removed from Yoruba. However they have been speaking Yoruba for centuries and it won't be wrong to classify them as Yoruba because of that. Akoko people who have many languages are also classified as Yoruba because they bear Yoruba names and have been speaking Yoruba for centuries. Akoko languages can however be classified as old ife languages.

Jamie248:
What a pile of Garbage

By the way OP has a very long record of posting the most ridiculous nonsense on Nairaland... y'all just check out his post/topic history

Is the Op the author or Oba lil Wayne?

ariesbull:
Make your gragra end online ...don't you even fight over lagos cos you will be defeated cos Lagos isn't yours ! Benin, Egun and Tapa own Lagos and Ijebu aren't even Yoruba and you better respect yourselves ...l

Be quiet
Na Yorubaland Lagos be
Benin Egun and Tapas were all given permission to settle in Lagos by the Yorubas
because Lagos is Yorubaland

lawani:
Language is a good way of classifying people though you are right some languages are adopted. Badagry was under the Oyo empire and it has indigenes who are Yoruba but minority. However the original people who owned that language could have been red indians who landed in west Africa for all we know. The language is quite removed from Yoruba. However they have been speaking Yoruba for centuries and it won't be wrong to classify them as Yoruba because of that. Akoko people who have many languages are also classified as Yoruba because they bear Yoruba names and have been speaking Yoruba for centuries. Akoko languages can however be classified as old ife languages.

It is so annoying when ipob try to teach us Oduduwa and Ife History

They don't even know their own History or who their 16th Century Ancestors were.

They are so arrogant !!
Imagine ipob trying to teach us Egun History?
Egun People that we share same Ancestral root with and that their king has worn Ife Crown for Centuries

WhizdomXX:
But a good number later submitted especially the ilorin region and oyo region, that it was often used to refer to.

Yes if you allow religion to fester in your society to any degree, it will overtime eat you up. The Yoruba eventually adopted Islam in large numbers maybe in the 19th century. I don't however think any significant Yoruba king was a Muslim before the 20th century apart from in Ilorin and Iwo.

It should be noted that the oriki of Alaafin Sango describes him as someone who studied the Quran and Sango ruled in the fifteenth century. Sango however was not a Muslim. He only studied the Quran. Alaafin Sango is now one of the main Kings of the past on Earth today who is worshipped as a deity

ariesbull:
Make your gragra end online ...don't you even fight over lagos cos you will be defeated cos Lagos isn't yours ! Benin, Egun and Tapa own Lagos and Ijebu aren't even Yoruba and you better respect yourselves ...l

Benin were settlersin Lagos and Awori who were under the Oyo never paid Tribute to Benin but too Alaafin
What Benin collected was sales Tax from Oba of Benin Slave Market on Lagos Island which the Awori had given him permission to set up .
Awori still own Lagos Island

Benin wouldn't dare try nonsense in Lagos.

The Ijebu who owned Lekki nextdoor were undefeated until the British arrived and would have shown the Benin Warriors the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean just like the Ilajes of Lagos drowned Oba Ehengbuda of Benin and his War entourage in Lagos when they tried nonsense around the Ilajes side of Lagos

Even their bodies were not recovered .
Have you ever seen a Benin man that could swim even one single mile?

Benin Couldn't swim or Canoe so how would they wage War on the Sea against the Ilaje and ijebu of Lagos that were wonderful Warriors on water?

Even the Lagos Island that Benin were given permission by Awori to settle on , last last you will still discover it was Ijaw and Itsekiri Canoe men that carried them there

ariesbull:
Make your gragra end online ...don't you even fight over lagos cos you will be defeated cos Lagos isn't yours ! Benin, Egun and Tapa own Lagos and Ijebu aren't even Yoruba and you better respect yourselves ...l

LOL.

Who are the people of ikoyi?

You have the iga onikoyi in Lagos Island, behind the only Petrol station in Iga Iduganran.

You also have the adjourning Ikoyi Island later named Victoria island.

The Onikoyi of lagos produced one time minister of Education, Mr Babatunde Fafunwa.

If Bini own Lagos, did they own ikoyi, ido, epe? Why did they "own" just Lagos Island?

In fact, Lagos own Bini.

Aina Elewure was the "Ewuare" in Bini antiquity. She was the defacto ruler who redeployed the king of Ado to rule over Lagos.

Newspaper claim by influencers without a clue how their claim manifest in reality except as figment of their imagination is not "ownership receipt".

In Lagos, all the ogalades tracing to Bini were never from Edo state, rather they want to and were blinded by the Bini's celebrity status as an ancient African state.

Lagos was the original Bini in their description, her people describe themselves as ara ibini arokuntayo. This is because the original Bini and the Yoruba were twins.

The Bini in Edo state were also Bini, not necessarily the source of Lagos but people of common heritage, independent of each other but have common origin.

Ibini: first born (Arabic: Ad)
Iseyin: later born. (Useyin, Sanni).

Lagosians were the actual own glory, because what they told of Bini to the Portuguese also influence their perception of Bini and now of this vain arguments.

How could the history of antiquity of a people so great be reduced to "metatenkobo" summarized simply as "Bini owns Lagos and Lagos is no man's land?"

What about the story of Olofin atekoye of ido? What about the story of Erelu Ile, iya onitanna? What about the story of Ejilu and Malaki? What about the story of Sokun iduntafa?

If you won't reduced your history to one sentence, why struggle to do that to a place that is as old as the earth itself?

There is no attestation that Bini own Lagos, because the closest, non Yoruba speakers of Lagos origin, the Egun called that particular place "ahonrin", and they ahonrin echoes this back as "awonrin" which is a clear Yoruba statement.

Kindly produce Bini equivalents of iga Iduganran and what it means in Edo just as you claim for eko.

What is IGA in Edo language?

absoluteSuccess:
LOL.

Who are the people of ikoyi?

You have the iga onikoyi in Lagos Island, behind the only Petrol station in Iga Iduganran.

You also have the adjourning Ikoyi Island later named Victoria island.

The Onikoyi of lagos produced one time minister of Education, Mr Babatunde Fafunwa.

If Bini own Lagos, did they own ikoyi, ido, epe? Why did they "own" just Lagos Island?

In fact, Lagos own Bini.

Aina Elewure was the "Ewuare" in Bini antiquity. She was the defacto ruler who redeployed the king of Ado to rule over Lagos.

Newspaper claim by influencers without a clue how their claim manifest in reality except as figment of their imagination is not "ownership receipt".

blablabla

Christistruth03:
Benin were settlersin Lagos and Awori who were under the Oyo never paid Tribute to Benin but too Alaafin
What Benin collected was sales Tax from Oba of Benin Slave Market on Lagos Island which the Awori had given him permission to set up .
Awori still own Lagos Island

Benin wouldn't dare try nonsense in Lagos.

The Ijebu who owned Lekki nextdoor were undefeated until the British arrived and would have shown the Benin Warriors the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean just like the Ilajes of Lagos drowned Oba Ehengbuda of Benin and his War entourage in Lagos when they tried nonsense around the Ilajes side of Lagos

Even their bodies were not recovered .
Have you ever seen a Benin man that could swim even one single mile?

Benin Couldn't swim or Canoe so how would they wage War on the Sea against the Ilaje and ijebu of Lagos that were wonderful Warriors on water?

Even the Lagos Island that Benin were given permission by Awori to settle on , last last you will still discover it was Ijaw and Itsekiri Canoe men that carried them there

Yoruba were also settlers.... Abi dem throw them from sky dem drop for Lagos

ariesbull:
Yoruba were also settlers.... Abi dem throw them from sky dem drop for Lagos

Would you agree Igbos are settlers in the SE?

Christistruth03:
Benin were settlersin Lagos and Awori who were under the Oyo never paid Tribute to Benin but too Alaafin
What Benin collected was sales Tax from Oba of Benin Slave Market on Lagos Island which the Awori had given him permission to set up .
Awori still own Lagos Island

Benin wouldn't dare try nonsense in Lagos.

The Ijebu who owned Lekki nextdoor were undefeated until the British arrived and would have shown the Benin Warriors the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean just like the Ilajes of Lagos drowned Oba Ehengbuda of Benin and his War entourage in Lagos when they tried nonsense around the Ilajes side of Lagos

Even their bodies were not recovered .
Have you ever seen a Benin man that could swim even one single mile?

Benin Couldn't swim or Canoe so how would they wage War on the Sea against the Ilaje and ijebu of Lagos that were wonderful Warriors on water?

Even the Lagos Island that Benin were given permission by Awori to settle on , last last you will still discover it was Ijaw and Itsekiri Canoe men that carried them there

Sorry to say, Awori were never Oyo tributary, you can read AI Asiwaju on this. In fact Ifa was said to have been introduced to Oyo from Ota.

Lagos was never a tributary of Bini, the Portuguese took the description of Bini by lagosians, their original identity and stamp it on the greatness of Bini, naming the bight as that of Bini in their marcations.

This is not to undermine the greatness of today's Bini city, but that you don't need to build repute for a reputable city with falsehood as many here were trying to do.

Likewise, it's counterproductive to degrade others (in spite of their rich repertoire of history) to be politically correct or satisfy certain people's ego trip even if the visible loser is not conscious of it.

ariesbull:
blablabla

This is not evidence that you need to establish your claim.

absoluteSuccess:
Sorry to say, Awori were never Oyo tributary, you can read AI Asiwaju on this. In fact Ifa was said to have been introduced to Oyo from Ota.

Lagos was never a tributary of Bini, the Portuguese took the description of Bini by lagosians, their original identity and stamp it on the greatness of Bini, naming the bight as that of Bini in their marcations.

This is not to undermine the greatness of today's Bini city, but that you don't need to build repute for a reputable city with falsehood as many here were trying to do.

Likewise, it's counterproductive to degrade others (in spite of their rich repertoire of history) to be politically correct or satisfy certain people's ego trip even if the visible loser is not conscious of it.

Lagos island might have been tributary to Benin in the seventeenth century. They definitely had relations with Benin and so did Akure, Ikere Ekiti, Onitsha, Ikwerre, Ussele Ukwu, Esan and etc. Ijesa had relations with Benin.

ariesbull:
Yoruba were also settlers.... Abi dem throw them from sky dem drop for Lagos

Yorubas were already in Lagos before the 10h Century!!!

I will repeat again
At least 8 yoruba clans have Ancient Ancestral Territories in lagos State
Complete with their own Traditional Rulers
Awori with the most population,Ijebu , Ilaje,Egba,Egbado,oyo,Owu,ketu,, and in Badagry the Egun.

Every one of them arrived long before Gbadebo Rhodes ex-Enslaved returnee Ancestors

If we tell them a little of the History of yoruba lagos if they have Conscience they will Shut up and beg for Forgiveness

There were Yorubas in lagos long before Oduduwa was born

When 1st ijesha king was sent to moba, lagos to fetch Oduduwa sea Water in 10th Century
,he met 5th ijebu king on Throne!! Yes
1,2,3,4,5th ijebu king in the 10th Century O !!!

Lekki in lagos is Ijebuland!!!!
And moba is right next to Lekki !!

The ijebu king gave him the guides to take him to moba
after he had previously lost his way to moba at Okun Ajah all in today’s lagos !!
moba itself had had more than 10 kings already ( In the 10 th Century 0!!)

The Igbore clan of the Egba also has moba Ancestors who were still living on
lagos Lagoon until the early 18th Century when power drunk Af0nja at Ilorin created big big problems
For entire Yorubaland that sent everyone fleeing to the Mountains and to the Rocks for Refuge
That was how they ended up in Abeokuta

The deity that Traditional Worshippers call Olokun was a pre 10th Century King of moba called Seniade

The first ijesha king spent 2 months at moba near ikoyi lagos
The Otun Ekiti are descended from the moba people of lagos
and Oore Otun Ekiti is directly descended from the moba kings

That is why the ijesha Kings till today have the Title “Owa Obokun” ( He came back after fetching Sea Water)

That Sea Water was fetched at Okun Moba (Moba Sea) on the Lekki Peninsula and was carried
to Oduduwa at Ile Ife in the 10th Century!
Yes!!!

Don’t drag people’s God given Ancient Ancestral Heritage it is offensive
Even God Almighty will fight you back

absoluteSuccess:
This is not evidence that you need to establish your claim.

He has no evidence

lawani:
Lagos island might have been tributary to Benin in the seventeenth century. They definitely had relations with Benin and so did Akure, Ikere Ekiti, Onitsha, Ikwerre, Ussele Ukwu, Esan and etc. Ijesa had relations with Benin.

The Awori were under Alaafin Oyo in the 16th Century after the Nupe were defeated.
The Awori were already under Oyo before Nupe invaded Oyo Ile and occupied it for 85 years.
It was during that Period of the Nupe Occupation of Oyo that Benin had tried to encroach on the Lagos Coast but were soundly defeated afterwards

Lagelu the founder of Ibadan was one of the Warriors who helped the Awori to defeat Benin .
The Ilajes and Basorun Yamba of Oyo also played a big part
It was the Ilajes that drowned Oba Ehengbuda of Benin and his War entourage in Lagos

Afterwards Benin came back begging and pleading Oduduwa brotherhood for small trading post
Awori gave permission for them to have Trading post on Lagos Island
that was when
Lagos Island had a slave market that belonged to the Oba of Benin who was a Trading partner of the Portuguese .
It was sales tax Oba of Benin collected from his Trading post and Slave Market on Lagos Island which Oba of Lagos Controlled on his behalf

Oba of Lagos doesn't own Lagos Island
The Awori do

Awori paid Tribute to Oyo not Benin

Christistruth03:
Yorubas were already in Lagos before the 10h Century!!!

I will repeat again
At least 8 yoruba clans have Ancient Ancestral Territories in lagos State
Complete with their own Traditional Rulers
Awori with the most population,Ijebu , Ilaje,Egba,Egbado,oyo,Owu,ketu,, and in Badagry the Egun.

Every one of them arrived long before Gbadebo Rhodes ex-Enslaved returnee Ancestors

If we tell them a little of the History of yoruba lagos if they have Conscience they will Shut up and beg for Forgiveness

There were Yorubas in lagos long before Oduduwa was born

When 1st ijesha king was sent to moba, lagos to fetch Oduduwa sea Water in 10th Century
,he met 5th ijebu king on Throne!! Yes
1,2,3,4,5th ijebu king in the 10th Century O !!!

Lekki in lagos is Ijebuland!!!!
And moba is right next to Lekki !!

The ijebu king gave him the guides to take him to moba
after he had previously lost his way to moba at Okun Ajah all in today’s lagos !!
moba itself had had more than 10 kings already ( In the 10 th Century 0!!)

The Igbore clan of the Egba also has moba Ancestors who were still living on
lagos Lagoon until the early 18th Century when power drunk Af0nja at Ilorin created big big problems
For entire Yorubaland that sent everyone fleeing to the Mountains and to the Rocks for Refuge
That was how they ended up in Abeokuta

The deity that Traditional Worshippers call Olokun was a pre 10th Century King of moba called Seniade

The first ijesha king spent 2 months at moba near ikoyi lagos
The Otun Ekiti are descended from the moba people of lagos
and Oore Otun Ekiti is directly descended from the moba kings

That is why the ijesha Kings till today have the Title “Owa Obokun” ( He came back after fetching Sea Water)

That Sea Water was fetched at moba on the Lekki Peninsula and was carried
to Oduduwa at Ile Ife in the 10th Century!
Yes!!!

Don’t drag people’s God given Ancient Ancestral Heritage it is offensive
Even God Almighty will fight you back

So YORUBA people fell from heaven to Lagos ... They are also settlers Like others

ariesbull:
So YORUBA people fell from heaven to Lagos ... They are also settlers Like others

Yorubas were not settlers
They were the Aborigenes of Lagos

Christistruth03:
The Awori were under Alaafin Oyo in the 16th Century after the Nupe were defeated.
The Awori were already under Oyo before Nupe invaded Oyo Ile and occupied it for 85 years.
It was during that Period that Benin had tried to encroach on the Lagos Coast but we're soundly defeated

Lagelu the founder of Ibadan was one of the Warriors who helped the Awori to defeat Benin .
The Ilajes and Basorun Yamba of Oyo also played a big part

Afterwards Benin came back begging and pleading Oduduwa brotherhood for small trading post
Awori gave permission for them to have Trading post on Lagos Island
that was when
Lagos Island had a slave market that belonged to the Oba of Benin who was a Trading partner of the Portuguese .
It was sales tax Oba of Benin collected from his Slave Market on Lagos Island which Oba of Lagos Controlled on his behalf
Oba of Lagos doesn't own the Island
The Awori do

Awori paid Tribute to Oyo not Benin

I am not saying the whole Awori but Lagos island. Lagos island is a tiny part of Awori land. Lagos island was obviously initially a Benin post before it became independent. It was obviously granted land by the locals as it could not have held the land by force. The place was established by Ijesa, Benin and Portuguese to export palm oil. Today the place and it's indigenes are Awori. The founders were a mix of Benin, Ijesa and Portuguese hosted by the Awori

lawani:
Lagos island might have been tributary to Benin in the seventeenth century. They definitely had relations with Benin and so did Akure, Ikere Ekiti, Onitsha, Ikwerre, Ussele Ukwu, Esan and etc. Ijesa had relations with Benin.

This is how to deal with the quagmire, remember that what these people are vouching for is ownership, if you don't rebutt fact for fact, we'll all be trapped in their confusioñ of a history.

While I'm not disputing relationship between these people and need to study more the truth aside from "thousands of years meshed together as one century in history" in the name glorifying the powers that be.

Next, Oba of Bini could have had tradepost in Lagos Island, but the bone of contention is that of the antiquity of Lagos, because Lagos started as early as any other ancient enclave in the west coast.

[quote author=absoluteSuccess post=138338888]This is how to deal with the quagmire, remember that what these people are vouching for is ownership, if you don't rebutt fact for fact, we'll all be trapped in their confusioñ of a history.

While I'm not disputing relationship between these people and need to study more the truth aside from "thousands of years meshed together as one century in history" in the name glorifying the powers that be.

Next, Oba of Bini could have had tradepost in Lagos Island, but the bone of contention is that of the antiquity of Lagos, because Lagos started as early as any other ancient enclave in the west coast.[/q

Can Benin claim ownership of Onitsha today? There is evidence Benin took tribute in Akure. Can it claim ownership today? Mind you many groups surrounding Benin including Akure, Esan etc have history saying they reduced Benin to tributary status in the past. The Oba of Lagos today is descended from the priest that established the settlement who was an Ijesa man. They built a palace for him when he was alive. Like many parts of Yoruba land, Eko have history with Benin and that's about it. The land is Awori land and the people are Awori. Then the Benin people of the empire were Yoruba speakers. Benin the capital of the empire was a city of 50k people where Yoruba was the lingua franca just like Warri or Akure. The Edo speakers overwhelmed the city after the empire declined and turned it to Edo speaking. That may have been in the nineteenth century. In the past they used to live in the suburbs. I have read Portuguese accounts of Yoruba being spoken as a lingua franca in the old city. The Ijesa, Oyo and etc didn't see the Benin as different from themselves because they spoke the same language

lawani:
There were literally no settled Fulani in the sixteenth century at least in the Nigerian area. Yoruba as a word came from the Songhai empire who learnt the word from Muslims and the word was originally Europa before it was corrupted to Yoruba. It used to mean people who were civilized without submitting to Islam. Europe was Christian yet civilized. The word originally meant west in the original Phoenician to refer to Europe. The Muslims got the word from Phoenicia originally. In west Africa, it meant people to the South who wouldn't submit to islam

Very Apt.

[quote author=lawani post=138339023][/quote]The name ijesa is the code name of the exploration of the founding fathers, the founding fathers were one.

Ije: wayfaring
Owa seekers
Obokun a place where you have sea,
Remi across the rivers
Isa, elites, selection

The founding fathers were explorers from across the waters, they were out searching for a particular habour at the coast of an ocean in the dark continent (ilu okunkun).

They have the description of the place as being a place across water, that is, obokun-remi: island by my rough projection.

The mission: wiwa obokun remi.
The team: awonrin
The threat: Ewu
The hope: Ewu a re
The result: Awo~ri i
The experience: ije~bu
The findings: Ile fe

Anyone who lives by the island must have descend from the original people who was among owa obokun remi from the agenda of the founding fathers.

Enu owa, this is where they normally place the enthronement leave (ewe oye) by an akoko tree, opposite the popular playground at Iga Iduganran/enu owa on the head of every succeeding Oba of Lagos.

Enu owa is identical with ijesha's eru owa, and it means "mouthpiece of the search party".

Oba Ado was the mouthpiece of the search party, he was the one who spoke (Ewi) and his peers agree to go with him after the predicted island by the sea.

Adia fun Oba Ado, ejigbara ileke,
Tii lo ree bawon mule ibudo...

Oriki Awori:

Omo iwaju oloko tii s'owo,
Eyin oloko tii s'ejigbara ileke,
Ogedegede oloko tii mi yebeyebe lori omi.

Ejigbara ileke is something like the beads on the man in the middle, "crisscross".

Owa obokun remi is a vision statement of the cause of the founding fathers, possibly envisioned by their geologist or priest, who must have understood that river flows to the sea, and there would be islands in such neighbourhood.

The prayer warrior who was praying that the boys succeed and not die on the mission is Elewure.

absoluteSuccess:
Sorry to say, Awori were never Oyo tributary, you can read AI Asiwaju on this. In fact Ifa was said to have been introduced to Oyo from Ota.

Lagos was never a tributary of Bini, the Portuguese took the description of Bini by lagosians, their original identity and stamp it on the greatness of Bini, naming the bight as that of Bini in their marcations.

This is not to undermine the greatness of today's Bini city, but that you don't need to build repute for a reputable city with falsehood as many here were trying to do.

Likewise, it's counterproductive to degrade others (in spite of their rich repertoire of history) to be politically correct or satisfy certain people's ego trip even if the visible loser is not conscious of it.

The relationship between Oyo and Awori was definitely not one of Conquest but one of Mutual Protection with Alaafin being seen as the Protector of Awori and Awori being duty bound as Military allies of Alaafin
but how do you explain that to people whose politics didn’t go beyond village level?
I was thinking of how to explain the relationship between Awori and Oyo better

Yorubas was so politically advanced the relationship between the Awori and Oyo was like NATO
With Alaafin being seen the Honorary Chairman of NATO and Awori being under NATO protection

What we called Tribute was more like yearly gifts acknowledging that relationship not of a vassal state

Christistruth00:
The relationship between Oyo and Awori was definitely not one of Conquest but one of Mutual Protection with Alaafin being seen as the Protector of Awori and Awori being duty bound as Military allies of Alaafin
but how do you explain that to people whose politics didn’t go beyond village level?
I was thinking of how to explain the relationship between Awori and Oyo better

Yorubas was so politically advanced the relationship between the Awori and Oyo was like NATO
With Alaafin being seen the Honorary Chairman of NATO

What we called Tribute was more like yearly gifts acknowledging that relationship

Yes you are right boss, that's why we must do a lot to go beyond the reality of the recent past to the more ancient time to really see what happened.

Otherwise, we will see everything in the same way Samuel Johnson saw Oyo and the rest of the Yoruba and began an enemty that never was from our history just as it's playing out today among the first class kings.

Johnson took sultan bello's infaq al masur and created Yoruba proper out of it for his Oyo people.

Christistruth03:
Benin wouldn't dare try nonsense in Lagos.

Benin never claimed Lagos. Ivb'ẹdo, like other tribes, apart from one particular one, are grateful for Lagosians allowing them to be part of their wonderful city of opportunities. A city where multiple generations of Benin people reside and mix peacefully with not just the aboriginal Yoruba but other tribes.

This is an Ndigbo Obidient fermenting trouble that you are responding to.

absoluteSuccess:
In Lagos, all the ogalades tracing to Bini were never from Edo state, rather they want to and were blinded by the Bini's celebrity status as an ancient African state.

Lagos was the original Bini in their description, her people describe themselves as ara ibini arokuntayo. This is because the original Bini and the Yoruba were twins.

The Bini in Edo state were also Bini, not necessarily the source of Lagos but people of common heritage, independent of each other but have common origin.

Ibini: first born (Arabic: Ad)
Iseyin: later born. (Useyin, Sanni).

Lagosians were the actual own glory, because what they told of Bini to the Portuguese also influence their perception of Bini and now of this vain arguments.

How could the history of antiquity of a people so great be reduced to "metatenkobo" summarized simply as "Bini owns Lagos and Lagos is no man's land?"

What about the story of Olofin atekoye of ido? What about the story of Erelu Ile, iya onitanna? What about the story of Ejilu and Malaki? What about the story of Sokun iduntafa?

If you won't reduced your history to one sentence, why struggle to do that to a place that is as old as the earth itself?

There is no attestation that Bini own Lagos, because the closest, non Yoruba speakers of Lagos origin, the Egun called that particular place "ahonrin", and they ahonrin echoes this back as "awonrin" which is a clear Yoruba statement.

Kindly produce Bini equivalents of iga Iduganran and what it means in Edo just as you claim for eko.

What is IGA in Edo language?

Please stop responding to Ndigbo Obidients, Benin don't lay any claim to anywhere in Lagos.

aswani:
Benin never claimed Lagos. Ivb'ẹdo, like other tribes, apart from one particular one, are grateful for Lagosians allowing them to be part of their wonderful city of opportunities. A city where multiple generations of Benin people reside and mix peacefully with not just the aboriginal Yoruba but other tribes.

This is an Ndigbo Obidient fermenting trouble that you are responding to.

God bless you