₦airaland Forum

Basic123:
You Nigerians will just bẹ having opinion in what you know nothing about.

Do you know several hospitals in New york may not have anti-malaria?

^^^


Malaria isn't a common disease over there.

AkpaMgbor:
This shows you know absolutely fvck all about how a venom works.What will applying anything on the surface of the skin do to a substance that was injected directly into your bloodstream for goodness sake! What can you apply on the skin to stop a drug that was injected into your vein or muscle tissue?
Do you even know the difference between an ingested substance and an injected substance?
When you ingest any substance, it will get to your stomach and the highly concentrated acid in your stomach will try to break it down and neutralize it, and even if there’s an active compound in the herbal substance it will lose its efficacy when the acid acts on it. Then it will travel gradually to your small intestines before being absorbed into your bloodstream. But an injected substance is already on a private jet to your organs via capillaries, veins and arteries. Even if by any chance the traditional medicine has some efficacy and survives the gastric acid, it will be too slow to get to the venom already coursing through your bloodstream.

Do you get it now?

Omo you get patience to Dey educate people wey get smartphone but dem no gree use am.


You are really patient , kudos.

EDUECO:
Mr Einstein!

So,tell me how the pharmaceutical chemical or drug gets to your blood stream when you swallow it?

Since I became an adult,I only take natural food and medicine. I don't eat packaged food or drinks ,and as such I am in good health.

There’s a reason intravenous medicine works faster and better than oral medication and I just outlined why it is so.

ecomallchemistt:
Omo you get patience to Dey educate people wey get smartphone but dem no gree use am.


You are really patient , kudos.

It can be frustrating and exhausting but bro, nearly 2000 people die every year in Nigeria from snake bites. And it is partly from regurgitated ignorant claims like this that leads to such high numbers.

How will you get anti venom after biting a snake!
It was from the venom that the snake infected you, so how will biting that same venom help your life?

Pls make dis thing sensible to us.
Clarify us pls?

FSBoperator:
Anti venom is one of the rarest and most expensive drug therapy out there.

You will be surprised to know that snake venom that is used to create anti venom is more expensive gram for gram than gold and also that there are more deaths from snake bites in the US of mighty A that you all worship as some heaven on earth than we record here in Nigeria.

The key is not just getting the venom but getting the patient to the hospital as fast and possible and hoping the right anti venom is administered as the therapy for snake bite anti venom is dependent on the patient identifying the type of snake that bit him or her so the right anti venom can be administered.

Another trick you can try if bitten by a snake is to run after it, catch it and bite it back.

You won't only be getting your due revenge on the snake but also a potent anti venom .

Walnuts can cure snake bite?

richiemcgold:
This is why it is very important for us to have some knowledge of traditional first aids in case of emergency like this. Snake venom can be neutralized by eating fresh walnuts. We can use cigar leaf too. There's also what we call 'aparo' in Yoruba which I think every household should have at home.

Cigar leaf is that fresh, newly emerging leaf of a banana or plantain plant, which appears tightly coiled and resembles a green tube before unfolding.



I hope you are not too blind to see first aid in the comment you quoted. I did not mention cure.

AkpaMgbor:
It can be frustrating and exhausting but bro, nearly 2000 people die every year in Nigeria from snake bites. And it is partly from regurgitated ignorant claims like this that leads to such high numbers.

No mind dem , na dem go tell you make you drink Agbo Jedi for snake 🐍 bite.

Lamanii22:
Oh dear, I think it's high time they wipe off snakes off the surface if the earth, they are too creeepy and scares the hell outta me

^^^
Without them, the rat/rodent population would become uncontrollable. Things would become quite difficult for farmers.

AkpaMgbor:
Cure your ignorance.

2000 snake bites per year is nothing and not a national crisis

ecomallchemistt:
Omo you get patience to Dey educate people wey get smartphone but dem no gree use am.


You are really patient , kudos.

The home remedy is to use pressure bandage to tighten area of bite to prevent the movement of the venom in body system, before the victim is given antivenom or taken to hospital.

PlasmaTV:
E enter abi🤣🤣🤣
Isn't he a visiting president?

Aswearugad, Baba visits us every now and then; then go back to his hiding place. Our wahala too much for his mental health

angelboy01:
Before Colonialism, our forefathers got beaten by snakes and they survived due to herbal medicines.
Now, Nigeria has abandoned our traditional medicines and everything is now to follow the whites.

That's why China is the best in preserving tradition till date. We Nigerian need to go back to our root on how our forefathers did it.

I ain't downgrading them but don't forget what our forefathers did back then weren't documented. Many people died from venomous snake bites and they attributed it to spiritual attack/the victim offended the gods.

The ones bitten by non-venomous snakes and survived, they would conclude the traditional anti-venom they administered worked.



I learnt gonorrhea was labeled a spiritual sickness back then, anything wey black man nor understand dem go attach spirituality to am. .......Na dat "spiritual sickness" don get cure today.



Na same mentality Nigerian police get, every successful youth na fraudster.

FreeStuffsNG:
There's no scarcity.

It's the strike by Association of Healthcare Professionals and JOHESU


Smh.

You're obviously ignorant about the subject.

All you how to do is insult, even those as old as your grandparents.

Snake Antivenom will be in Pharmacies, not hospitals.

Most of what you call private hospitals don't have pharmacies, let alone have standard pharmacies managed by Superintendent Pharmacists who possess the expert knowledge the appropriate storage of the antivenom to maintain their efficacy and stability during their shelf life.

You sha want to buy relevance for your people
So you're a pharmacists and feel hard done by the preferential treatment doctors get in hospital hierarchy?
Eyaa. Double your hustle young man. There's no doctor that can stop a pharmacist from excelling in their field
Hustle harder!!

FSBoperator:
Anti venom is one of the rarest and most expensive drug therapy out there.

You will be surprised to know that snake venom that is used to create anti venom is more expensive gram for gram than gold and also that there are more deaths from snake bites in the US of mighty A that you all worship as some heaven on earth than we record here in Nigeria.

The key is not just getting the venom but getting the patient to the hospital as fast and possible and hoping the right anti venom is administered as the therapy for snake bite anti venom is dependent on the patient identifying the type of snake that bit him or her so the right anti venom can be administered.

Another trick you can try if bitten by a snake is to run after it, catch it and bite it back.

You won't only be getting your due revenge on the snake but also a potent anti venom .

The last line.... How?

Brendaniel:
I just checked it and you are right, but I advise you go and read my previous post , that's why I used the word earlier on

https://www.nairaland.com/8610937/giant-cobra-crawls-out-toilet#138341163

I already had a suspicion it will be costly which was why I gave the suggestion in my previous post on how the FG could reduce the cost, and most importantly target areas with high incident of such cases, there are states like Niger state that might take anyone bitten more than an hour to get to an FMC or tertiary hospital which time may not be available for the victim to survive.

Once again thank you for the information and update but you could have passed your message better without throwing insults, I only made a very good suggestion that you should have just given a simple reply, even the person I replied I did not insult him, neither did I insult the FG or State government, which is what you should have done with your information, anyway thanks.

Accept my sincere apology on the approach.
I was so humbled with the way you replied me.

Ojuntana:
You sha want to buy relevance for your people
So you're a pharmacists and feel hard done by the preferential treatment doctors get in hospital hierarchy?
Eyaa. Double your hustle young man. There's no doctor that can stop a pharmacist from excelling in their field
Hustle harder!!

Smh.

Ignorance is not bliss o.

I am pointing out to you what clearly benefits the whole populace and you turned it into an infantile debate as if snakes if it wants to bite you will make distinction between the status or taxonomy of its victim. You are literally dancing on the graves of the victims and its pathetic.

The healthcare professionals will handle their own issues as citizens of Nigeria directly involved in nation building. They are all stakeholders and will be alright las las.

Pharmacists are not even beholden to the hospital alone unlike other eminent members of the healthcare team so it beggars belief why you think my point is less about the victims. Pharmacists are already occupying the apex in their own lane as only a Pharmacist can boss another Pharmacist.

You can be the next victim of a snake bite and will need safe antivenom. Will you be taken to public hospitals already grounded due to strike when you can easily get it from a nearby pharmacy?

But for now, be reasonable enough to care about the public healthcare system and stop being childish.

Ojuntana:
But Aproko doctor did a video where he said anti-snake venom should be at primary health centers. You are disputing what he said. Are you a doctor?

You're absolutely ignorant as well as your aproko whatever.

This is how you waste countless lives out of ignorance. Smh

PHC kọ, PHC ni. It should be at Pharmacies. Pharmacies are easily accessible and they will be stored appropriately and can be administered urgently to save lives for first aid while post-venom administration can follow-up.

There are many snake rearers who even administer the antivenom on themselves at home yet these guys are not even healthcare professionals.

Only an ignorant person will tell you it should be at PHC that is not easily accessible unlike community Pharmacies.

Basic123:
Its means you dont know that anti-venom is not on the WHO essential drug list for a primary care as its costly,practically,making it available at that level may be impossible because each snake species has its own antivenom.One may cost as much as 100k,reason why its mostly found in few big tertiary hospitals and big pharmacies.

But Aproko doctor did a video where he said anti-snake venom should be at primary health centers. You are disputing what he said. Are you a doctor?

RandomFellow:
Aswearugad, Baba visits us every now and then; then go back to his hiding place. Our wahala too much for his mental health

Unfortunately, his presence is so useless that we don't care again.

I honestly don't even know whether he's home or abroad currently.

richiemcgold:
This is why it is very important for us to have some knowledge of traditional first aids in case of emergency like this. Snake venom can be neutralized by eating fresh walnuts. We can use cigar leaf too. There's also what we call 'aparo' in Yoruba which I think every household should have at home.

Cigar leaf is that fresh, newly emerging leaf of a banana or plantain plant, which appears tightly coiled and resembles a green tube before unfolding.



I hope you are not too blind to see first aid in the comment you quoted. I did not mention cure.

The day i respected even cooked walnuts was the day a lady was drunk to stupor and almost passed out. Immediately we gave her cooked walnut to eat, it was like magic.Less than 5mins she just regained herself as if nothing happened.I fear walnut since then o.Very potent stuff

muyico:
Some doctors don't know how to treat snake bites

How exactly? Does not having anti-venoms equate to not knowing how to treat snake bites??

The way una dey judge things in Nigeria out of ignorance dey tire person

ChybuzzDD:
How exactly? Does not having anti-venoms equate to not knowing how to treat snake bites??

The way una dey judge things in Nigeria out of ignorance dey tire person

I knw what I'm saying, most snake bite, where treated locally
Some hospitals will refer to local herbalist

FreeStuffsNG:
Smh.

Ignorance is not bliss o.

I am pointing out to you what clearly benefits the whole populace and you turned it into an infantile debate as if snakes if it wants to bite you will make distinction between the status or taxonomy of its victim. You are literally dancing on the graves of the victims and its pathetic.

The healthcare professionals will handle their own issues as citizens of Nigeria directly involved in nation building. They are all stakeholders and will be alright las las.

Pharmacists are not even beholden to the hospital alone unlike other eminent members of the healthcare team so it beggars belief why you think my point is less about the victims. Pharmacists are already occupying the apex in their own lane as only a Pharmacist can boss another Pharmacist.

You can be the next victim of a snake bite and will need safe antivenom. Will you be taken to public hospitals already grounded due to strike when you can easily get it from a nearby pharmacy?

But for now, be reasonable enough to care about the public healthcare system and stop being childish.


You're absolutely ignorant as well as your aproko whatever.

This is how you waste countless lives out of ignorance. Smh

PHC kọ, PHC ni. It should be at Pharmacies. Pharmacies are easily accessible and they will be stored appropriately and can be administered urgently to save lives for first aid while post-venom administration can follow-up.

There are many snake rearers who even administer the antivenom on themselves at home yet these guys are not even healthcare professionals.

Only an ignorant person will tell you it should be at PHC that is not easily accessible unlike community Pharmacies.

When you say pharmacies, are you referring to what is called chemist shops in local lingo or you mean standard pharmacies run by certified pharmacies? If you mean standard pharmacies then it is obvious you don't know what you're saying because all the standard pharmacies in Nigeria may not even be up to 2,000.
Also, who is to administer the drug to the victim in a pharmacy since it is usually injected. Are pharmacists allow to administer drugs through injections in standard practice?

Love800:
Walnuts can cure snake bite?

First aid is not cure. I'm tired of explaining to you people over and over again. Wetin na?

Lol.

Take am easy na comrade.

Ah!

Thanks so much.

Best wishes to you and have a great nite.

richiemcgold:
First aid is not cure. I'm tired of explaining to you people over and over again. Wetin na?

Herbal medicine for this snake bite incase of incase city... We should learn since our health care falling us

AkpaMgbor:
Working and about 2000 people in the rural areas of Nigeria die every year? But I’m sure you’re the only one who knows the real traditional medicine that cures envenomation while the 2000 that died last year didn’t.
Anyone who understands the difference between an ingested substance and an injected substance will immediately realize why drinking anything for a snake bite that was delivered deep into your tissue is completely useless!

E be like say ur brain don travel leave u

People will always die of ailment no matter how effective the medication is.
Millions of people still die of malaria even though their are traditional and orthodox cure of malaria. Why is that so? The reason is simple, some people do not receive the medication on time, the medication were not administered properly or some people are even allergic to certain medication etc

This same rules apply to snake venom antidote irrespective of it being traditional or orthodox and I am surprised you don't even know this yet you claim to be in the medical profession.

Basic123:
You are not making sense

Why can’t you just separate politics from real knowledge??

You Nigerians will just bẹ having opinion in what you know nothing about.

Have yoy heared of essential drugs list?

Do you know several hospitals in New york may not have anti-malaria?

Do you know each snake type has its own anti-venom?

Do you know how expensive it is to produce anti-venom?

Everything is interpreted from Tinubu,APC,ADC bla bla lense to you.

Please there is polyvalent anti-venom which is what Nigeria uses. It is effective for snake bites caused by different species of snakes. We hardly use monovalent anti-venom in Nigeria

QuinQ:
You are loudly and proudly obtuse. BBC just had this. The first hospital had no anti venom

No mind am. Listen to BBC e no gree, na to dey spew rubbish. BBC said many vials are needed to treat one snake bite and each costs see below. And they expire in 4 years. Many Nigerian hospitals don't have it. The first hospital the young lady was taken to didn't have it!

Stop using US medical costs to judge what is applicable in Nigeria. The same medication that costs 1,000 USD in America may end up costing 300 USD in Mexico or India.

In Nigeria, polyvalent anti-venom is approved for use and it works for a range of snake bites caused by various types of snakes.

Here, it costs between 150k to 180k. More than 2 vials may be needed for a patient depending on the severity of the venom.

Insulin is quite expensive in the US, but much cheaper in Canada and Mexico.

EDUECO:
What is the function of anti venom?

Just give the answer before I can school you more on what you don't know.

What you don't know is far greater than what you know.

Antivenin counteracts the action of the venom. Lemme stop here. Oya let's hear your 'schooling'

jaephoenix:
Antivenin counteracts the action of the venom. Lemme stop here. Oya let's hear your 'schooling'

You were the one the quoted my earlier post on the positive anti-venom of the natural plants,spices and herbs that I listed.

You're with a smart phone or computer and don't know that in ancient Africa, Egypt,Rome,Greece,China,India and Persia; onion,garlic, nigella sativa,clove,honey,vinegar,wine and others too numerous to list were used in treating snake bikes.

The father of modern medicine(Heraclitus )even made use of onion,garlic,honey ,wine and vinegar in the treatment of snake bites.