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Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by MaziObinnaokija: 9:55pm On Feb 04
sad sad lottiok and Flangelo12 don go hunting expedition sad in Ekwulobia sad sad. Make I reach helinues. Yarimo house b4 dem lock their street gate. grin grin cheesy grin for cold MALTA without Gala lipsrsealed grin
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by Burob: 9:57pm On Feb 04
didymario7:
You are talking nonsense. It is on record that Nigeria already attained 100% broadband internet penetration.
100% broadband internet penetration? Impossible.
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by sleeknaija(m): 9:58pm On Feb 04
Obaofaba:
This is the way to go.

God bless the Nigerian Senate.

God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
So far the electoral bill passed favours your pay masters, why won't it be the way to go? Alatanuje..
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by Brendaniel: 9:58pm On Feb 04
Burob:
The ADC wailers have already started their wailing.
If you see the truth as wailing, that's your problem, not mine...
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by LZAA: 10:00pm On Feb 04
Obaofaba:
Nigeria does not have the facilities yet to transmit the results nationwide in real time.

Inec irev might even be hacked.

Until we are ready, manual transmission is the only way to go.

Make sure you have agents on ground in all the polling units and ensure they have the signed results sheet.

Police and other law enforcement agents are there too.

Nigeria is not ripe for electronic transmission of results.

When we say have agents on ground, they say it's structure of criminality. You are one minute away from wailing and we are here to get entertained with your tears.
The people who are speaking up for fairness and integrity are being assaulted by those who borrow everything from transport money from their colleagues (if by chance they are even employed) to begging neighbours to charge devices and buy foodstuff on credit😄😄
This election go long sha
Oh btw the "people" refers to you and your ilk who support this abomination of a regime
Smh
🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by Burob: 10:00pm On Feb 04
MaziObinnaokija:
sad sad lottiok and Flangelo12 don go hunting expedition sad in Ekwulobia sad sad. Make I reach helinues. Yarimo house b4 dem lock their street gate. grin grin cheesy grin for cold MALTA without Gala lipsrsealed grin
Some people no just get shame, just a few days ago u & your ADC wailers were weeping that Akpabio & senate no wan pass the electoral Act?

Make we see wetin una go use wail next.
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by tony0806: 10:01pm On Feb 04
Eriokanmi:
Details pls....hope the electronic transmission of results from the polling booth is there.
They removed it bhroo
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by RichBoy247: 10:02pm On Feb 04
WiszyFraud:
2027 is going to be very interesting


cool
.
It’s going to be very dull. The dullest election in history. It’s just a formality election to fulfil Constitutional requirements because the election had already been won and lost or are you waiting till Atikulation’s home government Finitri, Balabala Muhammed of Bauchi and Seyi Solo-Makinde to sing ON YOUR MANDATE WE SHALL STAND before you know that there will be no real Presidential election in 2027?
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by iwaeda: 10:04pm On Feb 04
Every monitoring spirit, Oh Lord defend us and visit them. grin grin grin angry
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by Burob: 10:04pm On Feb 04
Brendaniel:
If you see the truth as wailing, that's your problem, not mine...
Wail on Wailer, Akpabio & em senators done shock u abi?
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by MaziObinnaokija: 10:05pm On Feb 04
grin grin grin grin wink sad grin ..nah to dey laugh u.E get why
Burob:
Some people no just get shame, just a few days ago u & your ADC wailers were weeping that Akpabio & senate no wan pass the electoral Act?

Make we see wetin una go use wail next.
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by Brendaniel: 10:22pm On Feb 04
Burob:
Wail on Wailer, Akpabio & em senators done shock u abi?
Your problem not mine if you see the truth as so...
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by kachistone: 10:37pm On Feb 04
Brendaniel:
They rejected mandatory electronic transmission of results, so they are planning to do all those, we will reconvene at 4pm, we are still waiting for Sokoto collation officer, we heard he had an accident along the road, in 2026?

It is well...


I tire o. Banks move huge sums of money electronically. Exams and results are done electronically nowadays but electronic transmission of results is like rocket science according to these senators.

Na wa!!!


Yet you subject little children to use the same technology to write and pass their exams with shorter timeframe than election time even with glitch force them in most cases to accept the outcome with a technology you claim is not full proof or reliable but you are here giving excuse for adults to use the very same technology with a longer time frame, the joke is on you...
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by kachistone: 10:39pm On Feb 04
Obaofaba:
Nigeria does not have the facilities yet to transmit the results nationwide in real time.

Inec irev might even be hacked.

Until we are ready, manual transmission is the only way to go.

Make sure you have agents on ground in all the polling units and ensure they have the signed results sheet.

Police and other law enforcement agents are there too.

Nigeria is not ripe for electronic transmission of results.

When we say have agents on ground, they say it's structure of criminality. You are one minute away from wailing and we are here to get entertained with your tears.
How many times have they hacked servers of other countries that transmit results electronically?
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by didymario7(m): 11:28pm On Feb 04
Burob:
100% broadband internet penetration? Impossible.
Through starlink, Nigeria now has 100% broadband penetration. Take your starlink antenna to any part of Nigeria and you get broadband speed. There is no excuse in 2026.
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by bigpicture001: 12:16am On Feb 05
WiszyFraud:
2027 is going to be very interesting


cool
Which interesting.. when Akpabio has rigged it already
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by nkemjacob2(m): 1:25am On Feb 05
If transmission of result is not made mandatory. I AM NOT COMING TO VOTE.
all bodies, agencies of good governance this is the time to speak out.

Nigeria youth this is time to demand for good governance.

To hell with your senators
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by favour32(m): 1:30am On Feb 05
WiszyFraud:
2027 is going to be very interesting


cool
As usual.
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by callmenazarene: 2:51am On Feb 05
What of the other numerous hidden clauses known to them and their masters?
Everything na cruise!!!
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by ExudeLoveToAll: 3:41am On Feb 05
Obaofaba:
This is the way to go.

God bless the Nigerian Senate.

God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
You guys should be ashamed even if you are shameless
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by Bobloco: 3:56am On Feb 05
TimeManager:
As sophisticated as technology deployed by Telecoms, Banks, others, they do experience technical glitches unannounced and unexpectedly.

In South Africa, there was technical glitches that marred the general election, same as was experienced in Nigeria. Therefore it makes complete sense for INEC to have options going into the the election.

-Kiss the truth!





You are only ranting from a place of ignorance. Technology is not 100% full proof or reliable.

-Kiss the truth!




We saw how glitches marred last JAMB exams that they had to apologize to some students and have them rewrite the exams. No tech is full proof. Even in the last US election, lots of mails were alleged to have been compromised.

-Kiss the truth!
Technical glitches happen agreed.
That’s exactly why strong laws remove discretion, not expand it.

When systems fail, democracies rely on clear, mandatory safeguards, not “options” that conveniently appear only when results are inconvenient.

South Africa didn’t respond to glitches by weakening result transmission they strengthened oversight and transparency.

INEC didn’t need options.It needed obligations.

Glitches are accidental.
Designing loopholes is intentional and that's what Tinubu APC led regime and Senate just did
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by amazingspiderma: 4:09am On Feb 05
casualobserver:
We are a nation of people whose emotions get the better of them.


What exactly was a mandatory electronic transmission of results supposed to achieve?

Does it mean any result that lands electronically is the authentic official final result? What happens if I employ some Russian, Israeli or Chinese hackers to access and alter the results enroute?

How do you prove the results were not altered?

Did I hear you say you will refer to the paper results from the PU of which every agent and the police have a copy of the original? Does it mean if I transmit an altered result it become the official result? Then what is point of making electronic results mandatory if it is not the original authentic result and authentic final authority of what occurred at polling units ? So the only result that can be relied upon is the paper result from the PU? ….Toh!

Furthermore, when you say electronic transmission is mandatory and some PUs fail to transmit due to network issues, does that mean the elections are void? The word here being “mandatory”. If the law says mandatory then it must be done. If not the election is invalid.

So if the result that lands at the server electronically can be hacked, if it is not the alpha and omega of results, if you cannot Guarantee that all PUs will have transmission capabilities, then what do you achieve by making e transmission mandatory but chaos?

You see how we allow emotions to cloud our thinking?

This is how we started with parliamentary system and regional govt and instead of us to fix ourselves we kept blaming the system, changing and changing the system of govt and now we want to go back to the regional govt we now realize was the best but it is impossible!
Definitely an APC mole.
All they do is cast doubt on issues that could help solve Nigeria problems.

Electronic transmission is one of the solutions considering the challenges faced in the last election.
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by phonek: 4:58am On Feb 05
*Why Rejecting the “Mandatory” Electronic Transmission of Results Makes No Sense, and Why Reverting to a Failed Method Is Dangerous.*

APC are arguing that electronic transmission of election results should not be mandatory because it can be hacked. That sounds reasonable, until you think deeper.

First, let us ask a simple question:
Is paper result safe?
No. Paper results can be changed on the road, inside a vehicle, or at the collation centre. People have been rewriting figures for years. We all know this.

Now another question:
Can electronic results be hacked?
Yes, they can. But here is the truth: both systems have problems. There is no perfect system.

So the real question is not “Is electronic transmission risky?”
The real question is:
Which one is easier to protect—paper or electronic?

Paper is easy to change quietly.
Electronic systems leave records, time stamps, and digital traces. If someone tampers with them, it can be detected.

Some people say:
“What if there is no network in the polling unit?”

INEC has already explained this in simple terms:
The result is recorded and snapped at the polling unit immediately voting ends. Even if there is no network, the machine will keep it and upload it automatically once it sees network. So nobody can change it on the road.

Now think again.
If we fear hackers, can a country not also hire experts to protect the system?
If bad people can pay hackers, can government not pay security experts?
That is what serious countries do.

So why are we afraid?
Because the old paper system allows manipulation without evidence.
Electronic transmission makes cheating harder and easier to expose.

The problem is not technology.
The problem is that some people are comfortable with a system that can be bent.
Changing the system will not solve everything overnight, but refusing to improve it will keep us stuck.

Rejecting mandatory electronic transmission makes no sense. Going back to an old method that failed in the last election is dangerous. People have lost trust in INEC, and repeating the same process will not restore confidence. If the old way worked, we wouldn’t be here. To rebuild trust, we must improve the system, not return to one that already failed.

Emotion will not fix elections.
Better systems will.
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by phonek: 4:59am On Feb 05
*Why Rejecting the “Mandatory” Electronic Transmission of Results Makes No Sense, and Why Reverting to a Failed Method Is Dangerous.*

APC are arguing that electronic transmission of election results should not be mandatory because it can be hacked. That sounds reasonable, until you think deeper.

First, let us ask a simple question:
Is paper result safe?
No. Paper results can be changed on the road, inside a vehicle, or at the collation centre. People have been rewriting figures for years. We all know this.

Now another question:
Can electronic results be hacked?
Yes, they can. But here is the truth: both systems have problems. There is no perfect system.

So the real question is not “Is electronic transmission risky?”
The real question is:
Which one is easier to protect—paper or electronic?

Paper is easy to change quietly.
Electronic systems leave records, time stamps, and digital traces. If someone tampers with them, it can be detected.

Some people say:
“What if there is no network in the polling unit?”

INEC has already explained this in simple terms:
The result is recorded and snapped at the polling unit immediately voting ends. Even if there is no network, the machine will keep it and upload it automatically once it sees network. So nobody can change it on the road.

Now think again.
If we fear hackers, can a country not also hire experts to protect the system?
If bad people can pay hackers, can government not pay security experts?
That is what serious countries do.

So why are we afraid?
Because the old paper system allows manipulation without evidence.
Electronic transmission makes cheating harder and easier to expose.

The problem is not technology.
The problem is that some people are comfortable with a system that can be bent.
Changing the system will not solve everything overnight, but refusing to improve it will keep us stuck.

Rejecting mandatory electronic transmission makes no sense. Going back to an old method that failed in the last election is dangerous. People have lost trust in INEC, and repeating the same process will not restore confidence. If the old way worked, we wouldn’t be here. To rebuild trust, we must improve the system, not return to one that already failed.

Emotion will not fix elections.
Better systems will.



casualobserver:
We are a nation of people whose emotions get the better of them.


What exactly was a mandatory electronic transmission of results supposed to achieve?

Does it mean any result that lands electronically is the authentic official final result? What happens if I employ some Russian, Israeli or Chinese hackers to access and alter the results enroute?

How do you prove the results were not altered?

Did I hear you say you will refer to the paper results from the PU of which every agent and the police have a copy of the original? Does it mean if I transmit an altered result it become the official result? Then what is point of making electronic results mandatory if it is not the original authentic result and authentic final authority of what occurred at polling units ? So the only result that can be relied upon is the paper result from the PU? ….Toh!

Furthermore, when you say electronic transmission is mandatory and some PUs fail to transmit due to network issues, does that mean the elections are void? The word here being “mandatory”. If the law says mandatory then it must be done. If not the election is invalid.

So if the result that lands at the server electronically can be hacked, if it is not the alpha and omega of results, if you cannot Guarantee that all PUs will have transmission capabilities, then what do you achieve by making e transmission mandatory but chaos?

You see how we allow emotions to cloud our thinking?

This is how we started with parliamentary system and regional govt and instead of us to fix ourselves we kept blaming the system, changing and changing the system of govt and now we want to go back to the regional govt we now realize was the best but it is impossible!
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by zoedew: 6:09am On Feb 05
ogaprime:
Wuru wuru to the answer. Na wa o
Intentional.
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by Dalohad: 7:22am On Feb 05
Akpabio threw out mandatory electronic transmission of result, so that him and other crooks can leave loopholes that they can easily manipulate and cook results.
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by poiZon: 8:26am On Feb 05
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by casualobserver:
phonek:
*Why Rejecting the “Mandatory” Electronic Transmission of Results Makes No Sense, and Why Reverting to a Failed Method Is Dangerous.*

APC are arguing that electronic transmission of election results should not be mandatory because it can be hacked. That sounds reasonable, until you think deeper.

First, let us ask a simple question:
Is paper result safe?
No. Paper results can be changed on the road, inside a vehicle, or at the collation centre. People have been rewriting figures for years. We all know this.

Now another question:
Can electronic results be hacked?
Yes, they can. But here is the truth: both systems have problems. There is no perfect system.

So the real question is not “Is electronic transmission risky?”
The real question is:
Which one is easier to protect—paper or electronic?

Paper is easy to change quietly.
Electronic systems leave records, time stamps, and digital traces. If someone tampers with them, it can be detected.

Some people say:
“What if there is no network in the polling unit?”

INEC has already explained this in simple terms:
The result is recorded and snapped at the polling unit immediately voting ends. Even if there is no network, the machine will keep it and upload it automatically once it sees network. So nobody can change it on the road.

Now think again.
If we fear hackers, can a country not also hire experts to protect the system?
If bad people can pay hackers, can government not pay security experts?
That is what serious countries do.

So why are we afraid?
Because the old paper system allows manipulation without evidence.
Electronic transmission makes cheating harder and easier to expose.

The problem is not technology.
The problem is that some people are comfortable with a system that can be bent.
Changing the system will not solve everything overnight, but refusing to improve it will keep us stuck.

Rejecting mandatory electronic transmission makes no sense. Going back to an old method that failed in the last election is dangerous. People have lost trust in INEC, and repeating the same process will not restore confidence. If the old way worked, we wouldn’t be here. To rebuild trust, we must improve the system, not return to one that already failed.

Emotion will not fix elections.
Better systems will.
Paper results are issued at the polling unit and the original results is pasted for the voters at the polling unit to see. In addition, stamped/signed copies are given to agents of all parties and the police. If anyone changes the result, the party agents, police and the voters have copies of the original results. If anyone alters any results, there are multiple layers of control to show tampering of results. If you tamper the results you will have to tamper with the result displayed at the polling unit, the copies with the various party agents, the results snapped by the various voters at the PU.

I stopped reading your post there because it is clear you do t know how the voting process works and have allowed yourself to be gaslighted by the propaganda.

I have said it many times, anyone who takes a dispassionate examination of our current voting system will realise it is one of the more fool proof systems in the world. No system can prevent electoral fraud. What you need from a system is a means to provide evidence of electoral fraud when it occurs and we have that. You cannot rig in Nigeria without leaving evidence. Even the US and Uk voting systems cannot compare to ours. It was designed to catch crooks because we are a nation of crooks. The systems in the Uk and USA operate on trust and good faith.
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by casualobserver:
amazingspiderma:
Definitely an APC mole.
All they do is cast doubt on issues that could help solve Nigeria problems.

Electronic transmission is one of the solutions considering the challenges faced in the last election.
How does it solve the problem? KINDLY EXPLAIN! No system can solve the problem of bad loser who refuses to accept defeat and blames everyone but himself. . Atiku and Obi lost because they split their votes, not because of INEC. If they were so sure they won, why are they trying to recombine now?

Stop spinning the yarn you hear and swallow without thinking and tell us how it solves the problem.


What happens if I hack and alter the results while in transmission? How do you know the authentic result? What happens if there is a submarine cable cut on the day of the election or if the network fails in an area or the whole country? What if I hack the result while in transmission and alter it and it has been announced in real-time only for the people in the polling unit to realize that was not the result declared in my PU?

You have already transmitted and announced a hacked result in real-time. Meanwhile I and others at polling unit know that was not the result at the PU! What do you do then? You will create chaos and will have to revert back to the paper results at the PU. You will create a chaotic environment and give any loser grounds to say the whole election is invalid. All for what? If you still have to refer to the paper results as the ultimate authentic account of what transpired at the PU, then tour electronically transmitted result is ultimately meaningless! All you do by transmitting a result that is later found to be hacked or flawed is render the election lacking in credibility.

You guys need to engage the God given grey matter more often if you still have any left! Some ideas may sound good on paper or in theory until you think them through and realize they actually create bigger problems. Many of you don’t think things through!

You guys just talk! A little more intellectual engagement would do a lot for you and society at large.
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by commoditiesnig(m): 11:55am On Feb 05
Spot on!.. truly emotional and ignorant set of people.

As an IT expert I can tell you electronic transmission can be HIGHLY SUSCEPTIBLE to Hacks… our technology hasn’t reached that Topnotch level just yet for internet penetration and DATA SECURITY.

Unfortunately lots of emotional and ignorant folks wouldn’t care to understand.

It’s wise to have Options of Both Manual & Electronic transmissions!

casualobserver:
We are a nation of people whose emotions get the better of them.


What exactly was a mandatory electronic transmission of results supposed to achieve?

Does it mean any result that lands electronically is the authentic official final result? What happens if I employ some Russian, Israeli or Chinese hackers to access and alter the results enroute?

How do you prove the results were not altered?

Did I hear you say you will refer to the paper results from the PU of which every agent and the police have a copy of the original? Does it mean if I transmit an altered result it become the official result? Then what is point of making electronic results mandatory if it is not the original authentic result and authentic final authority of what occurred at polling units ? So the only result that can be relied upon is the paper result from the PU? ….Toh!

Furthermore, when you say electronic transmission is mandatory and some PUs fail to transmit due to network issues, does that mean the elections are void? The word here being “mandatory”. If the law says mandatory then it must be done. If not the election is invalid.

So if the result that lands at the server electronically can be hacked, if it is not the alpha and omega of results, if you cannot Guarantee that all PUs will have transmission capabilities, then what do you achieve by making e transmission mandatory but chaos?

You see how we allow emotions to cloud our thinking?

This is how we started with parliamentary system and regional govt and instead of us to fix ourselves we kept blaming the system, changing and changing the system of govt and now we want to go back to the regional govt we now realize was the best but it is impossible!
Re: Nigerian Senate Passes Electoral Bill by LottiOk: 12:08pm On Feb 05
MaziObinnaOkija nsogbu di na otu nzuzo Kanu ugbua. Back to back good News coming out of Nigeria and they don't know which lie to spin to counter or twist the narrative. Even this electoral act that they've been clamouring for, saying it won't be passed , now that it has been passed to their greatest Shame, they are now saying they didn't make electronic transmission mandatory like it's don anywhere else..

Chai‼️ it pains to b a Kanu/Obi supporter rn. Such emotional damage has been inflicted on them by themselves that they don't know what to do anymore.

And here you are adding insult to their open sores.

Mazi Obi gi ajoka ka nkem



MaziObinnaokija:
grin grin cheesy grin cool laughing 😃 😀 😄 in AGULU lipsrsealed grin. .

Make I reach LottiOk,Flangelo12 house go drink palmy with goat meat.
No time
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