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Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by rummmy: 7:41pm On Feb 05
From frying pan to oven...
Religion of terrorists
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by dederocs(m): 7:53pm On Feb 05
babakb:
I support this, run away from false worship and worship Allah alone, Allah alone is our Creator and Cherisher.
Just imagine if everyone becomes an extremists like you, the world will burn...what if they start retaliating?

Then you rabid head will be crying for the governor for reaction and compensation. Trouble makers, this is a breach of public peace and destruction of private property which is a culpable felony, the commissioner of police of Edo state must bring the perpetrators to book, to calm nerves of the youths and indigenous people.

I wonder why your brain can not tell you about the laws of reaction, and cause and effect. You better wake up from your illusion of self grandeur, because it's an illusion.

We don't hear of traditionalists terrorists, your religion inspires terrorists. You have no right to tell anyone what to believe in, you pawns forget we are traditionalists before these foreign religions was brought here through force and subjugation...how can low minds tell wise people what to do, who gave you the power or right to do this criminal act?
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:08pm On Feb 05
You love lying to yourself a lot.

All people believe in the day of judgment from God but only true believers do not put God's judgement in their hands they truly believe God will do the right thing at the right time!🙂

lawani:
You don't attack but you issue threats saying they will cease to exist while the chosen few will live forever in paradise. It is more or less the same illogical position
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by INJESUSNAME: 8:38pm On Feb 05
Kamalex2:
Islam is coming to dominate the world insha allah🙏
How is that going to happen? Through Boko, Isis, alqaeda, Hamas, etc killing in the name of Islam?
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:43pm On Feb 05
Kamalex2:
Islam is coming to dominate the world insha allah🙏
The most hilarious joke ever about Islam is how you people kill one another when there is misunderstanding among you so think of how your greeting "SALAM" will work among you when you can't even cohabit peacefully among yourselves!🙂
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by delpee(f): 8:46pm On Feb 05
Since it was done in Ilorin with no consequences so far, the evil agenda will spread. Religion is personal. Forcing one's beliefs on another person is unfair and oppressive. It never brings peace.
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by Owologbo(m): 9:02pm On Feb 05
HydraFeeds:
This is religious intolerance and it's common in Abrahamic religion .

What if the traditional worshippers begin to burn down mosques ?

For Christians that also burn down shrines , this is also why Muslims are burning down churches .
No Christian will burn your shrine without you inviting them.
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by bizzibodi(m): 9:11pm On Feb 05
Allah is an Arabian moon god
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by lawani(m): 9:38pm On Feb 05
Owologbo:
No Christian will burn your shrine without you inviting them.
Christians burned over 100k people on stakes in Europe for being witches during the inquisition. Nothing Islam does can come close to that
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by GABRIEL6036: 9:49pm On Feb 05
Nteogwuija:
What can u present as proof to back your claim?
I understand your question, and it’s fair to ask for proof.
My belief that Jesus is the true God is based on historical evidence, fulfilled prophecy, and His resurrection, which no other religious leader has demonstrated.
Jesus claimed divinity openly –
He said “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30) and “Before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58).
The Jews understood this as a claim to be God, which is why they tried to stone Him.
His resurrection is the strongest proof –
Christianity stands on a historical event: Jesus died publicly, was buried, and rose again, witnessed by many people (1 Corinthians 15:3-cool.
If the resurrection is true, then His claim to be God is true.
Fulfilled prophecies written hundreds of years before His birth –
Isaiah 53 described His suffering and death long before He came.
No other religious figure fulfilled detailed prophecies like this.
Salvation by grace, not fear or rituals –
Jesus offers forgiveness and eternal life freely (Ephesians 2:8-9).
This is different from systems based on works, fear, or idols made by human hands.
So my statement isn’t just emotion or insult; it is based on the person of Jesus, His words, His resurrection, and fulfilled prophecy.
Anyone who sincerely studies His life and resurrection with an open heart will understand why Christians call Him the true Lord.
Peace to you.
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by Azazyel: 10:38pm On Feb 05
Absolute trash
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by lawani(m): 10:59pm On Feb 05
MaxInDHouse:
You love lying to yourself a lot.

All people believe in the day of judgment from God but only true believers do not put God's judgement in their hands they truly believe God will do the right thing at the right time!🙂
Most cultures don't believe in a one off existence. They believe in reincarnation
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:11am On Feb 06
lawani:
Most cultures don't believe in a one off existence. They believe in reincarnation
So how does that exempted punishment for evil?
In reincarnation it's taught that evildoers will be punished by reincarnating as pigs or ants and other creatures.
So all races believe in punishment for the evil deeds people does now therefore you are only lying to yourself claiming all religions are evil simply because you want to promote your lies that worthless, hopeless, useless and good for nothing ifá should be forced down the throat of everyone but you will be shocked that by the time all religions are banned even your ifá will be categorized as another religion.
Meanwhile there are liars like you using different methods to extort money from people some claims to be Alfa, Prophet, Guru and so on all of them are hiding under the flag of spiritual consultants.
So by the time religion is banned don't think such thieves will be allowed to continue operating o!🙂
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by lawani(m): 6:16am On Feb 06
MaxInDHouse:
So how does that exempted punishment for evil?
In reincarnation it's taught that evildoers will be punished by reincarnating as pigs or ants and other creatures.
So all races believe in punishment for the evil deeds people does now therefore you are only lying to yourself claiming all religions are evil simply because you want to promote your lies that worthless, hopeless, useless and good for nothing ifá should be forced down the throat of everyone but you will be shocked that by the time all religions are banned even your ifá will be categorized as another religion.
Meanwhile there are liars like you using different methods to extort money from people some claims to be Alfa, Prophet, Guru and so on all of them are hiding under the flag of spiritual consultants.
So by the time religion is banned don't think such thieves will be allowed to continue operating o!🙂
There is nothing wrong in preaching punishment for evil. What is wrong is preaching punishment for unbelief
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:19am On Feb 06
lawani:
There is nothing wrong in preaching punishment for evil. What is wrong is preaching punishment for unbelief.
Here you go again with self deception!😀
Ọmọ you need to know the meaning of that word "BELIEVE" it simply means "TRUST" so if you are preaching that there is punishment for evil deeds what happens to UNBELIEVERS who keeps doing evil thinking there is no punishment?😀
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by Mirasteel: 7:04am On Feb 06
INJESUSNAME:
Why always shifting the blame ? is this how to prove Islam is better than idol worship? Don't u have shrines also in Saudi Arabia? I am happy because at least u can't claim Islam is a religion of peace.
Islam is a religion of peace, if you don't know now you know and if you think otherwise then you are islamaphobe.
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by Mirasteel: 7:08am On Feb 06
chidi2003:
Traditionalists are the owners of the land: why are you people attacking their heritage?
You are wrong, Auchi is majority muslims, those traditionalist reverted to Islam long ago and now the people don't want anything to do with idol worshipping, what's wrong?
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by lawani(m): 7:13am On Feb 06
Mirasteel:
Islam is a religion of peace, if you don't know now you know and if you think otherwise then you are islamaphobe.
What now are the spiritual practices who don't fight anyone at all and don't preach damnation for unbelievers? I think they are the true peaceful people. Islam and Christianity are of war, disagreements and strife
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:16am On Feb 06
lawani:
What now are the spiritual practices who don't fight anyone at all and don't preach damnation for unbelievers? I think they are the true peaceful people. Islam and Christianity are of war, disagreements and strife
LIE!
There is no religion or spirituality that does not preach damnation for unbelievers!🙂
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by lawani(m): 7:23am On Feb 06
MaxInDHouse:
LIE!
There is no religion or spirituality that does not preach damnation for unbelievers!🙂
Can you show me a video clip or even text from someone who is neither Muslim nor Christian saying people will be punished by God for unbelief? Even Jews don't do it. Their laws apply to only them and they don't necessarily preach hell.
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:38am On Feb 06
lawani:
Can you show me a video clip or even text from someone who is neither Muslim nor Christian saying people will be punished by God for unbelief? Even Jews don't do it. Their laws apply to only them and they don't necessarily preach hell.
Hell means Grave so everyone is going there after death but punishment after death for evil deeds is what all religions and spirituality preaches!🙂
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by lawani(m): 7:40am On Feb 06
MaxInDHouse:
Hell means Grave so everyone is going there after death but punishment after death for evil deeds is what all religions and spirituality preaches!🙂
We are talking of punishment for evil which is rational not punishment for unbelief which is clearly irrational
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:45am On Feb 06
lawani:
We are talking of punishment for evil which is rational not punishment for unbelief which is clearly irrational.
You are a liar!

In ifá unbelief is called "ẹ̀já" Yorùbá will say "ó ń d'ẹ́jà" meaning the person does not or refuses to believe and there is punishment for such according to ifá.

So stop deceiving yourself!🙂
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by lawani(m): 8:11am On Feb 06
MaxInDHouse:
You are a liar!

In ifá unbelief is called "ẹ̀já" Yorùbá will say "ó ń d'ẹ́jà" meaning the person does not or refuses to believe and there is punishment for such according to ifá.

So stop deceiving yourself!🙂
No it means refusing to heed the advise of the ifa priest. Refusing to do ebo. Why would you go to an IFA priest if you want to refuse to heed the advise? Would you go to a lawyer while not wanting to heed his counsel?

In any case there is a well known Olofin called Olofin Adeja who was known for never heeding the advise of ifa priest. Nothing untowards happened to him.

If you go to a Babalawo you would be advised to do ebo for your own good and you would be warned there would be consequences if you don't but not in the afterlife as you seem to think
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by chidi2003(m): 9:42am On Feb 06
Mirasteel:
You are wrong, Auchi is majority muslims, those traditionalist reverted to Islam long ago and now the people don't want anything to do with idol worshipping, what's wrong?
Ask yourself this question: are Muslims the original owners of Auchi land? Islam and Christianity are visitors to Nigeria: why attacking the owners of the land? Let's respect one another, please!
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:47am On Feb 06
Is it possible for the ifá priest to see the calamity through his oracle and reveal to a close relative of the unbeliever?

YES.

So it's not only those who believe in your ifá that your ifá used to see visions for just as it applies to all other religions and whoever disregard your ifá is called an unbeliever!🙂

lawani:
No it means refusing to heed the advise of the ifa priest. Refusing to do ebo. Why would you go to an IFA priest if you want to refuse to heed the advise? Would you go to a lawyer while not wanting to heed his counsel?
In any case there is a well known Olofin called Olofin Adeja who was known for never heeding the advise of ifa priest. Nothing untowards happened to him.
If you go to a Babalawo you would be advised to do ebo for your own good and you would be warned there would be consequences if you don't but not in the afterlife as you seem to think
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by lawani(m): 9:51am On Feb 06
MaxInDHouse:
Is it possible for the ifá priest to see the calamity through his oracle and reveal to a close relative of the unbeliever?

YES.

So it's not only those who believe in your ifá that your ifá used to see visions for just as it applies to all other religions and whoever disregard your ifá is called an unbeliever!🙂
Are you now saying a Babalawo will ask someone to do ebo without the person coming for consultation? That is wrong. The warning to do ebo is only for those who voluntarily go for consultation and not anyone else
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:52am On Feb 06
Mirasteel:
You are wrong, Auchi is majority muslims, those traditionalist reverted to Islam long ago and now the people don't want anything to do with idol worshipping, what's wrong?
I only want to tell you what is wrong with the way false religionists do attack other religions around them.
If your Allah is real you should allow the Allah to punish the unbelievers at least your Allah is God according to you so why must you do it's work imagine if the ancestors of that land refuse to welcome other religions do you think your Allah will have worshipers among them?🤔
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:03am On Feb 06
LIE!

There are many cases where the priest talks to close relatives of the person it has happened many times that someone will visit the priest only for the priest to start talking about a relative of his customer.
So do you think the one who disbelieve such a vision won't be punished?🤔

lawani:
Are you now saying a Babalawo will ask someone to do ebo without the person coming for consultation? That is wrong. The warning to do ebo is only for those who voluntarily go for consultation and not anyone else
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by lawani(m): 10:36am On Feb 06
MaxInDHouse:
LIE!

There are many cases where the priest talks to close relatives of the person it has happened many times that someone will visit the priest only for the priest to start talking about a relative of his customer.
So do you think the one who disbelieve such a vision won't be punished?🤔
There are quacks in any profession. It is not possible for a real IFA priest to ask you to do ebo when you did not come for consultation. They can advise you to go for consultation though. In any case they will never issue threats about the afterlife. They can issue threats to those who refuse to do ebo but the threats have nothing to do with the afterlife
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:44am On Feb 06
So they can also issue threat to people and does such threats has anything to do with you seeing the gods for yourself or it's just the priest that will tell you what is going to happen if you don't believe in his so called "ẹbọ"?😀

lawani:
There are quacks in any profession. It is not possible for a real IFA priest to ask you to do ebo when you did not come for consultation. They can advise you to go for consultation though. In any case they will never issue threats about the afterlife. They can issue threats to those who refuse to do ebo but the threats have nothing to do with the afterlife
Re: Traditional Worshippers' Shrine Burnt In Auchi, Edo State by lawani(m): 10:53am On Feb 06
MaxInDHouse:
So they can also issue threat to people and does such threats has anything to do with you seeing the gods for yourself or it's just the priest that will tell you what is going to happen if you don't believe in his so called "ẹbọ"?😀
When any expert give you advise, it is always accompanied by subtle threats against non compliance. This includes doctors, lawyers and etc
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