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Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by Krankhead: 11:55am On Feb 07
Penguin2:
Once you start getting this kind of news reportage you know that the deal is already concluded.

An Obi/Kwankwaso ticket even under a Birthday Party will run Tinubu and his Sheeples of governors out of town before noon on Election Day even if Seyi Tinubu is INEC chairman.

With what is coming, Tinubu and APC would have wished they allowed Electronic Transmission of result.Look at you, Now it's Obi kwankwaso again,una no even have policy or direction.

Game on!

And the tears can now start flowing.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by tommysparks: 11:56am On Feb 07
Too late
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by U09ce: 11:56am On Feb 07
[quote author=zoomzoom post=138391005][/quote]Where is it written that the south has 4 years to go?
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by PigTormentor: 12:01pm On Feb 07
Penguin2:
Once you start getting this kind of news reportage you know that the deal is already concluded.

An Obi/Kwankwaso ticket even under a Birthday Party will run Tinubu and his Sheeples of governors out of town before noon on Election Day even if Seyi Tinubu is INEC chairman.

With what is coming, Tinubu and APC would have wished they allowed Electronic Transmission of result.

Game on!

And the tears can now start flowing.
This is how you people always give yourself and your fellow moomoos false hope. Then when you lose safe lose big, you start to cry rigging without any evidence.


First, Kwankwaso will more than likely not be a VP to obi for many reasons, among them is that he's way more qualified than Obi, secondly, he knows Obi will be a liability in rhe core North.
He will only damage whatever is left of his political career and he knows that that combination will.not win anyway.
You people think that just because you and your family hates Tinubu, that means all Nigerians feel the same way.
Dey play. grin
Tinubu will beat any combination and it will not even be close this time around.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by WYZAD(m): 12:05pm On Feb 07
I ask again: Where's El-rufai?
Why is he unusually quiet?
Seems he had just realised he's paper weight. He's out of the whole equations.
Now he'll be running helta skelta...helita senkilita. henta sekinta..and Helter-skelter looking for alliances here and there.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by Tareq1105: 12:08pm On Feb 07
Ayo25:
grin

Oya Add 6 Million to 1 Million makes 7 Million. grin

Still doesn’t match what BAT got last time which will be doubled now grin

Obi should just compete to become BATs campaign DG in the East. He might be considered for a ministerial position thereafter. Very dull man grin
Is Obi 6.1m votes still there?

Is Atiku 6.8m votes still there after PDP has lost 8 1/2 Govs to APC? That 1/2 is Gov Fintiri bcoz he rejected Atiku ADC totally.

Is kwakwaso 1m votes still there after the defection of his son in law Gov Yusuf to APC?

We should stop deceiving ourselves with the statistics of 2023. APC tinubu will do better in the south east states than the performance in 2023.

I'm not unaware of the hatred for Tinubu and Yorubas, it's a long standing strong issues from colonial to post independent and to the civil war era.

My submission is that without the full cooperation, collaboration, understanding and submission of the Yorubas, no South East can be president bcoz the North cannot do it alone.

As a matter of fact, full cooperation of the North for a south east president cannot be achieved without the intervention of the Yorubas.

I've just pointed out my observations as someone that has been voting since 1983.

You don't have to agree with me or insult me.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by ottersberger(m): 12:11pm On Feb 07
AdolfHitlerxXx:
It's a big lie. It is Obidenrs that photoshopped Peter Obi into the picture.

Kwankwaso can NEVER be a 2nd to someone he's superior to, in all ramifications - academics, achievement and status.

It is like Real Madrid begging to use Enyimba stadium grin
But Buhari and Osinbajo are academic equals?. We know Shettima is even more educated than Tinubu who forged his school papers. Una no get sense.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by seunmsg(m): 12:12pm On Feb 07
Penguin2:
Once you start getting this kind of news reportage you know that the deal is already concluded.

An Obi/Kwankwaso ticket even under a Birthday Party will run Tinubu and his Sheeples of governors out of town before noon on Election Day even if Seyi Tinubu is INEC chairman.

With what is coming, Tinubu and APC would have wished they allowed Electronic Transmission of result.

Game on!

And the tears can now start flowing.
The delusion is real 🤣🤣🤣
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by Tareq1105: 12:13pm On Feb 07
U09ce:
Where is it written that the south has 4 years to go?
You wouldn't see where it's written bcoz it's written on your forehead. So, make use of a mirror.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by Burob: 12:14pm On Feb 07
Penguin2:
Once you start getting this kind of news reportage you know that the deal is already concluded.

An Obi/Kwankwaso ticket even under a Birthday Party will run Tinubu and his Sheeples of governors out of town before noon on Election Day even if Seyi Tinubu is INEC chairman.

With what is coming, Tinubu and APC would have wished they allowed Electronic Transmission of result.

Game on!

And the tears can now start flowing.
Same hallucination that u have been deceiving yourself with since 2015, after the general election you will start again with your Biafra we want to leave Nigeria, like u do after every general election loss.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by ovie8200: 12:15pm On Feb 07
Mrfixitt:
This ticket will send Tinubu back to Lagos no matter how he plans to rig
Sometime, you all always feel the next person will do better. Peter Obi as much I don't know him, I feel like that he will be a poppet of the North if he become president. He will be weaker and do what he is told.. When they are not there, the feel like they can do better but when get there, they don't know what to do.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by Tareq1105: 12:16pm On Feb 07
ottersberger:
But Buhari and Osinbajo are academic equals?. We know Shettima is even more educated than Tinubu who forged his school papers. Una no get sense.
It's the same forger of school papers that made academia to win.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by Burob: 12:16pm On Feb 07
Tareq1105:
Is Obi 6.1m votes still there?

Is Atiku 6.8m votes still there after PDP has lost 8 1/2 Govs to APC? That 1/2 is Gov Fintiri bcoz he rejected Atiku ADC totally.

Is kwakwaso 1m votes still there after the defection of his son in law Gov Yusuf to APC?

We should stop deceiving ourselves with the statistics of 2023. APC tinubu will do better in the south east states than the performance in 2023.

I'm not unaware of the hatred for Tinubu and Yorubas, it's a long standing strong issues from colonial to post independent and to the civil war era.

My submission is that without the full cooperation, collaboration, understanding and submission of the Yorubas, no South East can be president bcoz the North cannot do it alone.

As a matter of fact, full cooperation of the North for a south east president cannot be achieved without the intervention of the Yorubas.

I've just pointed out my observations as someone that has been voting since 1983.

You don't have to agree with me or insult me.
U are 100% correct, these children should listen to the words of their elders.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by seunmsg(m): 12:17pm On Feb 07
Razzness:
This is the only ticket that can defeat Tinubu hands down, unfortunately it will never happen. Kwankwaso will not be Obi's deputy. It just doesn't serve his political interests. He will have to wait for Obi to finish 8 years before he gets a chance to run for presidency. Right now as thing stand, if Tinubu completes his second term Kwankwaso is already the biggest northern politician after Atiku, he stands a much better chance of contesting and winning in 2031, at which time Atiku will be 85. Moreover, if he deputises for Obi and their government doesn't live up to expectation, it will diminish the popularity he already has.
Their is only one clear path for Kwankwaso, join APC and wait out Tinubus second term. It is very possible for him to win the primary and be the APC candidate in 2031. If he does anything other than this, he should kiss his dream to be president good bye.
How exactly can this ticket defeat Tinubu in a three horse race of Tinubu, Atiku and Obi? What’s the path to victory for the ticket? How many states in the north can the ticket win?
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by Burob: 12:19pm On Feb 07
ottersberger:
But Buhari and Osinbajo are academic equals?. We know Shettima is even more educated than Tinubu who forged his school papers. Una no get sense.
In all honesty u sound like someone wey no finish secondary school.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by Burob: 12:23pm On Feb 07
seunmsg:
How exactly can this ticket defeat Tinubu in a three horse race of Tinubu, Atiku and Obi? What’s the path to victory for the ticket? How many states in the north can the ticket win?
razzness is just wishful thinking for his Igbo uncle Obi, there is no path whatsoever to victory, pure hallucination @ best.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by Razzness(m): 12:33pm On Feb 07
It's not going to be a three horse race, are you forgetting that Obi and Atiku are already in the same party, and only one can emerge as the presidential candidate. If Obi emerges as the ADC candidate and he picks Kwankwaso (assuming he joins ADC and supports Obi), Atiku will have no choice but to back them, because it would be too late to leave the party at that point to go and set up another political structure elsewhere. With the support of Atiku, Obi/Kwankwaso ticket who where the 2nd, 3rd and 4th candidates from the last election would definitely give Tinubu a run for his money and based on popular votes they would definitely win, but we all know it is very unlikely for them to be announced as winners by INEC, even if they win. Nigerian politics 101.


seunmsg:
How exactly can this ticket defeat Tinubu in a three horse race of Tinubu, Atiku and Obi? What’s the path to victory for the ticket? How many states in the north can the ticket win?
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by ufotunang: 12:41pm On Feb 07
APC and Tinubu are already afraid
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by OnyeObowo1: 12:41pm On Feb 07
SadiqBabaSani:
Kwankwaso will give Obi too much trouble,

Instead of this Obi let BAT Continue,
U don't know who Obi is shaa,
U de see am as gentle man abi..
E go shock you
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by Razzness(m): 12:42pm On Feb 07
Dey play.
So you honestly think that it is wishful thinking that an Obi/Kwankwaso ticket in ADC, backed by Atiku, who where the 2nd, 3rd and 4th candidates from the last election can defeat Tinubu on popular votes. Wow! you don't even need to be a genius to figure that out, it's simple mathematics. I am not saying INEC will announce them as winners, even if they win the popular votes. That's an entirely different conversation.

Burob:
razzness is just wishful thinking for his Igbo uncle Obi, there is no path whatsoever to victory, pure hallucination @ best.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by OnyeObowo1: 12:43pm On Feb 07
TheDemola:
An alliance thought to have happened in 2023, but for Kwankwaso's pride and stupidity
Aswear to God,
Mumu and stupid man would have been president today
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by Burob: 12:44pm On Feb 07
Razzness:
Dey play.
So you honestly think that it is wishful thinking that an Obi/Kwankwaso ticket in ADC, backed by Atiku, who where the 2nd, 3rd and 4th candidates from the last election can defeat Tinubu on popular votes. Wow! you don't even need to be a genius to figure that out, it's simple mathematics. I am not saying INEC will announce them as winners, even if they win the popular votes. That's an entirely different conversation.
Wishful thinking established on political hallucination.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by OnyeObowo1: 12:46pm On Feb 07
Razzness:
This is the only ticket that can defeat Tinubu hands down, unfortunately it will never happen. Kwankwaso will not be Obi's deputy. It just doesn't serve his political interests. He will have to wait for Obi to finish 8 years before he gets a chance to run for presidency. Right now as thing stand, if Tinubu completes his second term Kwankwaso is already the biggest northern politician after Atiku, he stands a much better chance of contesting and winning in 2031, at which time Atiku will be 85.
Moreover, if he deputises for Obi and their
government doesn't live up to expectation, it will diminish the popularity he already has.
Their is only one clear path for Kwankwaso, join APC and wait out Tinubus second term. It is very possible for him to win the primary and be the APC candidate in 2031. If he does anything other than this, he should kiss his dream to be president good bye.
It's a lie.

Rubadu is already chosen by tinibu
Reason kwankwoso or elrufai was booted out
Any strong man in north will be booted out
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by Mrfixitt(m): 12:47pm On Feb 07
ovie8200:
Sometime, you all always feel the next person will do better. Peter Obi as much I don't know him, I feel like that he will be a poppet of the North if he become president. He will be weaker and do what he is told.. When they are not there, the feel like they can do better but when get there, they don't know what to do.
You feel or you're saying it because you don't like him ? Peter Obi was the one who killed God fatherism in Anambra as governor so park one side
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by Burob: 12:50pm On Feb 07
Mrfixitt:
You feel or you're saying it because you don't like him ? Peter Obi was the one who killed God fatherism in Anambra as governor so park one side
He killed god fatherism in Anambra’s politics u claim, so how did Willie Obiano his friend & colleague from Fidelity Bank, become the governor of Anambra state?
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by seunmsg(m): 12:53pm On Feb 07
Razzness:
It's not going to be a three horse race, are you forgetting that Obi and Atiku are already in the same party, and only one can emerge as the presidential candidate. If Obi emerges as the ADC candidate and he picks Kwankwaso (assuming he joins ADC and supports Obi), Atiku will have no choice but to back them, because it would be too late to leave the party at that point to go and set up another political structure elsewhere. With the support of Atiku, Obi/Kwankwaso ticket who where the 2nd, 3rd and 4th candidates from the last election would definitely give Tinubu a run for his money and based on popular votes they would definitely win, but we all know it is very unlikely for them to be announced as winners by INEC, even if they win. Nigerian politics 101.
Thanks for your response and willingness to engage without lacing your response with insult.

1. Your assumption of a two horse race is wrong. Atiku will contest the ADC primary and win the ticket. If there is ever going to be an Obi/ Kwankwaso ticket, it will very likely be on the platform of another party.

2. In politics, interest overrides all other considerations. What’s in an Obi/Kwankwaso ticket for Atiku? Absolutely nothing. In the unlikely event of an Obi primary election victory, the Atiku camp will have to be placated with the party’s VP. Basically, Atiku will be begged to come up with the VP candidate. That person won’t definitely be kwankwaso.

3. Let’s even assume somehow that ADC agree to the ticket, what’s in that arrangement for the core north? Why will the largely Muslim north abandon the MM ticket of Tinubu and the 100% assurance of getting power back in 2031 only to support another southern Christian till 2035? Why?

4. Finally, what is the political weight of Kwankwaso in the north considering the overall political interest of the north? Those that voted for Atiku in 2023 simply wanted power retained in the north. Those votes can’t be transferred to a northern VP candidate. Kwankwaso as presidential candidate will win Kano easily but as VP to a Southern candidate, he will struggle to win Kano and lose all other core northern states to APC.

Conclusion: There is no pathway to an Obi/ Kwankwaso ticket irrespective of whether it’s a three or two horse race.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by thrillionaire(m): 12:54pm On Feb 07
Ezeama400:
That’s your opinion

Obi got 6 million plus, while Kwankwaso go 1 million Votes..

You should know who should deputize who ..

Una too Dey overrate northerners, that’s why they are looking down on you guys
Thank you! Them too dey look subservient to these northerners. Mtcheeeew
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by kingbee90: 1:04pm On Feb 07
SadiqBabaSani:
Kwankwaso will give Obi too much trouble,

Instead of this Obi let BAT Continue,
Continue with what?

Taah!
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by koning: 1:12pm On Feb 07
Why da fuk did you delete my post and opinion on this topic. It was a response to an earlier comment.

I will now participate even less on this forum. The selective Spam Bot is nonsense.

BYE,
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by Razzness(m): 1:39pm On Feb 07
Your points are valid.
But we are operating under the premise that Obi emerges as the ADC candidate (I do admit it is very unlikely), but if he does and Kwankwaso joins (again, another assumption) and Obi picks him as VP, and Atiku supports them, then it will be a very viable pathway for the opposition to win on popular votes (that doesn't mean they would be announced as winners).
If Obi can perform as well as he did in the southeast, south-south, and even southwest (Lagos, I mean), then you have to see that with Atiku and Kwankwaso campaigning for him in the north (regardless of the northern votes being divided), there is a real chance for the opposition to emerge victorious. All this is just speculation anyways, and I don't think those three will ever work together, but the fact is if they were to do, it would be very unwise for Tinubu to underestimate them.

NB: Personally, I don't care who wins; they are all the same. Nothing significant will change. Ours is a fundamental problem, not a politician problem. Even Jesus Christ and Muhammed cannot solve Nigeria's problem as it is now. Because as they are doing one thing, there is one director, one senator, one commissioner, one chief judge, one army general, one pastor, one imam, and one state governor somewhere doing another thing.

seunmsg:
Thanks for your response and willingness to engage without lacing your response with insult.

1. Your assumption of a two horse race is wrong. Atiku will contest the ADC primary and win the ticket. If there is ever going to be an Obi/ Kwankwaso ticket, it will very likely be on the platform of another party.

2. In politics, interest overrides all other considerations. What’s in an Obi/Kwankwaso ticket for Atiku? Absolutely nothing. In the unlikely event of an Obi primary election victory, the Atiku camp will have to be placated with the party’s VP. Basically, Atiku will be begged to come up with the VP candidate. That person won’t definitely be kwankwaso.

3. Let’s even assume somehow that ADC agree to the ticket, what’s in that arrangement for the core north? Why will the largely Muslim north abandon the MM ticket of Tinubu and the 100% assurance of getting power back in 2031 only to support another southern Christian till 2035? Why?

4. Finally, what is the political weight of Kwankwaso in the north considering the overall political interest of the north? Those that voted for Atiku in 2023 simply wanted power retained in the north. Those votes can’t be transferred to a northern VP candidate. Kwankwaso as presidential candidate will win Kano easily but as VP to a Southern candidate, he will struggle to win Kano and lose all other core northern states to APC.

Conclusion: There is no pathway to an Obi/ Kwankwaso ticket irrespective of whether it’s a three or two horse race.
Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Propose Obi-kwankwaso Alliance - Arise TV. by favour32(m): 1:40pm On Feb 07
Since there no mandatory electronic transfer of electoral results,
no guarantee that there won't be manipulation of electoral results.


Tinubu and senate president know what they are doing.
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