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Moderator101:
Source: https://www.thecable.ng/why-no-nigerian-leader-can-fix-power-in-one-year/

I hope its not Tinubu saying this?

GloriousGbola:
the power problem can be solved if we as nigerians are willing to bite the bullet and start paying actual cost of power. no one is going to invest in power when it is still being subsidized. that is the reality. nigeria can no longer afford to subsidise power

there is also the issue of corrupt legacy nepa staff all through the system who have the govt is paying for power mindset and who will continue to sabotage metering initiatives for their own gain

Are the ways to bring down the price of power in Nigeria without subsidies?

If power was cheaper would people be willing to pay the full cost?

These are the sort of questions that our leaders need to ask themselves.

LabStores:
Nonsense assumption and defence.
You are very ignorant of many facts, e.g,
MONEY OR FUND
TRANSMISSION
&
GENERATION

A very serious, disciplined and determined government will definitely fix power in one year.

IT IS VERY VERY POSSIBLE.

Okay, let's assume that the government was serious and that power was under the control of government

We need at least 30000 mw to give everyone on the grid light. That means power generation plants , like a thermal plant and a hydroelectric plant. Building those would take five years at least. ( One of our newer power stations, it took some time to design turbines...these aren't things you buy off the shelf)

Then we have to fix a transmission system so that it can transmit 30000 mw. That's another several years.

All the above assumes government serious and money not a problem

Alphafarms:
Imagine the 15trillion naira spend on coastal road is given to general electric GE or global big electrical company,to give us Constant electricity. Do you know what that would do to the country? But Tinubu took the money to construct a road, why not fix the already existing road, and use the 15tr to fix power for once in this country, and write your name in gold for life in our hearts

Tinubu took 15 trillion? From where?

When you are ignorant and too lazy to research anything you cannot make sense

Why didn't those before Tinubu in 63 years take 15 trillion and give to GE?

If you have not researched a matter you are not qualified to talk on it

Don't just open your mouth to talk nonsense


Some people over the years spend trillions on refineries that don't work, on Abuja on railway and other unproductive ventures

And your solution is to gibe 15 trillion to GE

tesseract:
Subsidy for electricity has since been removed, so what's your point.?

you actually think you are paying full price for electricity?

plessis:
Damage control.
Did you promise to give Nigerians constant electricity in 4years or not?

No mind them. The writer has collected corns to write epistles so that Nigerians should forget the fske promise made by the fake certificate holder.

I expected this paid writer to write the truth and hold those who lied their way to grabbing accoubtable.
He should have written that Nigerians should never Vote for Tinubu in order to hold him accountable for his lies. But he wants to drag others into his propaganda as if they were the ones that promised not to be voted into office if they fail to deliver on their promises.

What this paid hack is trying to sell to us is that, "don't blame Tinubu because the money is not there". "Continue to vote for Tinubu because the electricity Transmission are obsolete".

He even have to drag Atiku and Obi into his paid writings

seunmsg:
Work started on Geometric power plant in 2005. I can bet you were still in primary 2 then so you won’t know.

Always in sifia pains this man

seunmsg:
Where will you get $80billion to invest in the sector?

I explained what I would do in my full post

It costs less than 500 million dollars more less 1 billion

nairalanda1:
Okay, let's assume that the government was serious and that power was under the control of government

We need at least 30000 mw to give everyone on the grid light. That means power generation plants , like a thermal plant and a hydroelectric plant. Building those would take five years at least. ( One of our newer power stations, it took some time to design turbines...these aren't things you buy off the shelf)

Then we have to fix a transmission system so that it can transmit 30000 mw. That's another several years.

All the above assumes government serious and money not a problem

The simple truth is power cannot be a federal government solved problem

Federal government has created the legislation but all states are not equal

We cannot continue with the National Grid model
We need to pursue genuine federalism
With local or regional grids
Some states will be leadersand some will be laggards

tesseract:
Answer my question. The per Kwh energy consumption between bands A, B or C are tantamount to the cost of electricity available to those bands and the cost has been increased about twice or thrice to make up for any shortfall you are talking about. So?

The part in bold is factually incorrect. The cost of electricity irrespective of the band is the same. Government only came up with the bands just to make sure people staying in urban and elitist neighborhoods pay more than those in average and rural neighborhoods. So, the elites on band A are made to pay a cost reflective tariff while FG subsidize average and low income families on band B and C. Without subsidies, everybody will be paying what band A is paying.

And note, a cost reflective tariff is not static. It’s like the price of PMS, it Keeps changing based on market conditions.

None has done so even in eight years.

Gajagojo:
The simple truth is power cannot be a federal government solved problem

Federal government has created the legislation but all states are not equal

We cannot continue with the National Grid model
We need to pursue genuine federalism
With local or regional grids
Some states will be leadersand some will be laggards

And as the man said in the article,such things would cost far more money than some states and lga and even regions have.

Hence the fact that we all got to pay cost reflective tarrifs and end power theft which would make investing in power more reasonable and enable the sector pay for improvements. That or government finds fifteen trillion annually via loans

AbuTwins:
No one can fix it in 4 years sef!

Except you have the expertise at hand plus the trillions of dollars needed!

The Privitization done by GEJ was poorly done to unqualified companies. Companies without financial backings and top-notch expertise in the energy sector! We need to go back to move forward!

You have said it all, t he foundation was very poor, and we all know that a bad tree, can never yield good fruits.

Gajagojo:
The simple truth is power cannot be a federal government solved problem

Federal government has created the legislation but all states are not equal

We cannot continue with the National Grid model
We need to pursue genuine federalism
With local or regional grids
Some states will be leadersand some will be laggards

Thank u for your logical contribution, most often than not, Nigerians are always looking for a scapegoat, when we ourselves collectively are the problem.

Tenses:
Then what is your government waiting for. Band A pay the actual cost for the power they consume. Is the power constant?

I've said it before that even if you give it to Obi, nothing will be achieved and obidients would stone him bcoz they'll be disappointed.

Obi once said he had learned from his 3 days visit to Egypt in 2022 and I said he learned nothing about power. Obi doesn't know what is involved. The billions of dollars involved.

Most information about the energy problem will not be known to you until you sit on the seat.

Even as Minister of Power, Obi would not get it. Everyday communities contribute to but transformers and cables on their own.

adonainana:
If I was Nigerian president here is a shortcut I would use to solve Nigerian powe crisis

Firstly remove all taxes on all solar accessories such as solar inverters , solar panels , lithium batteries

Secondly subsided whatever solar accessories are being imported to Nigeria

Two things would happen Solar would be so cheap a lithium battery that costs 500k right now might be as cheap as 50,000 naira

What then happens is solar inverters is so cheap that a typical 1kva system might cost less than 150,000 naira

Fine the government would lose some money in taxes that it was meant to get on imported solar accessories

But the end product would be greater

Each household in Nigeria would directly or indirectly generate its own power

That like almost 50,000 megawatts via solar panels generated

From barber shops to hotels to schools

Even factories would install solar because it is bloody cheap so cheap some would even go to waste

All civil servants too that work for the FG can also receive inverter system from the subsidy

Overnight Nigerian problem would be solved

There would be less pressure on the grid

Some people would even disconnect thier nepa light cos there is no point

Also sun is free , solar panels lasts 10 years or so

Same with lithium batteries

So just one move

Millions of consequences

This is what I would do if I was Nigeria president

Waiting 15 years to generator enough MW is too expensive

The plan is to do TO NEPA what MTN did to NITEL

give an alternative that would make nepa obsolete

Are you saying Nigerians are paying ten times what other countries pay for lithium batteries and etc? Then solar use and generators are not captured in the data for generated power in the country. The majority of power used in the country is not captured.

tesseract:
Subsidy for electricity has since been removed, so what's your point.?

Actually it has not been removed

At all

The situation is like this there is
1. A generation business
2. A distribution business

E.g. The generation side generates 100 units

The Distribution side might effective sell and get paid for 40

There is a lot of leakage between the generation and distribution
Because the Transmission infrastructure is outdated and inefficient and also because of corruption

The government did not sell Transmission because of sovereign concerns
So either the consumes pays for the leakages or government pays

The generation cannot operate at a loss they have to be paid for what they produce but most of what they produce is just wasted. Or lost


Somebody is paying for it


This goes down to how the privatisation was done

Government did not want to let go of Transmission but Transmission is inefficient and old

Government has a decision to make

Sometimes politics is played by allowing a lot of suffering for a while till an unpopular decision like handing over the Transmission to foreigners seems logical and inevitable

That is the dance we are dancing

The conflict about selling TCN

nairalanda1:
And as the man said in the article,such things would cost far more money than some states and lga and even regions have.

Hence the fact that we all got to pay cost reflective tarrifs and end power theft which would make investing in power more reasonable and enable the sector pay for improvements. That or government finds fifteen trillion annually via loans

I agree we should pay but states do not have to have the money
It is a business like any other business
Businesses need to be convinced to invest

Even if states had the money and tried they would probably fail

It needs private sector capital and expertise not just money



Your analysis is wrong
Even if government finds 15 trillion it won't work
Where does 15 trillion come from?
That is a phantom number

And by the way which of the governments

I said we need to decentralise

It is not just about finding money

It is a lot more than that

Tareq1105:
I've said it before that even if you give it to Obi, nothing will be achieved and obidients would stone him bcoz they'll be disappointed.

Obi once said he had learned from his 3 days visit to Egypt in 2022 and I said he learned nothing about power. Obi doesn't know what is involved. The billions of dollars involved.

Most information about the energy problem will not be known to you until you sit on the seat.

Even as Minister of Power, Obi would not get it. Everyday communities contribute to but transformers and cables on their own.

A very matured & responsible logical assertion, It is a fact, that Gringory Obi if he ever gets to power, which I know that he never will, assuming but not conceding will tell Nigerians that he needs at least 20 years in power like his mentor Suharto of Indonesia to be able to deliver on what he promised his gullible minded Obidients during his campaign.

My prayer for Nigerians is may God bless us all to afford inverter or solar system. Then we will see who laugh best.

Is because they have no plan, their plans is to steal, loot, and use government name to secure everything they want

anonimi:
The secret is PDP’s deregulation and privatisation policies as well as the increased power generation, which APC unfortunately have failed to sustain.

We thank God that PDP deregulation and prosperity politicians added1,400 Mws to the grid unlike their APC chochocho balablu fake promises opponents.

High on promises but too low for zero on delivery. That is All Promises Cancelled, APC.

I didn't know that. So after all APC did they can't even be on PDP's level?! Interesting

Gajagojo:
Actually it has not been removed

At all

The situation is like this there is
1. A generation business
2. A distribution business

E.g. The generation side generates 100 units

The Distribution side might effective sell and get paid for 40

There is a lot of leakage between the generation and distribution
Because the Transmission infrastructure is outdated and inefficient and also because of corruption

The government did not sell Transmission because of sovereign concerns
So either the consumes pays for the leakages or government pays

The generation cannot operate at a loss they have to be paid for what they produce but most of what they produce is just wasted. Or lost


Somebody is paying for it


This goes down to how the privatisation was done

Government did not want to let go of Transmission but Transmission is inefficient and old

Government has a decision to make

Sometimes politics is played by allowing a lot of suffering for a while till an unpopular decision like handing over the Transmission to foreigners seems logical and inevitable

That is the dance we are dancing

The conflict about selling TCN

Is transmission not under distribution? You are saying a separate transmission company should be privatized. Ain't all the assets of transmission under the distribution companies?

lawani:
Is transmission not under distribution? You are saying a separate transmission company should be privatized. Ain't all the assets of transmission under the distribution companies?

There is a company called Transmission Company of Nigeria
Maybe you can spend some time to get more information

MrUnitedstatesA:
Those lying patriots will always avoid threads like this
https://www.nairaland.com/8614041/african-countries-ranked-infrastructure-access

Because it exposes the worthlessness of their useless government. Which kind of country produces and exports so much oil but the people have no electricity or infrastructure to enjoy? Look at how far other Africans are opening the gap between us and them but we are here stark on stupid titles like giant of Africa. Most populous shythole. Nonsense.

Pay no attention to them, in over 60 years since it's independence they can't provide stable electricity for their citizens

lawani:
Are you saying Nigerians are paying ten times what other countries pay for lithium batteries and etc? Then solar use and generators are not captured in the data for generated power in the country. The majority of power used in the country is not captured.

Lithium batteries are imported into the country just like any other imported commodity

If heavily subsidised , the price would almost be as cheap as anything

In turn Nigerians would generate its own power

Every household would generate its own power

Just exactly how obj gave MTN license in 20023 and everyone owned thier handset ever since

Unlike fossil fuels solar has no bye products and it’s clean energy w

All you need is sun for the solar panel and Nigeria has some deadly sun rays

Problem solved

This is what Nigeria has to do and must do to solve its power problem overnight

Moderator101:
Source: https://www.thecable.ng/why-no-nigerian-leader-can-fix-power-in-one-year/

It can be fixed within one year Sir
What makes this problem longer is that we have so many elites and Nigerians benefiting from the rot in the power sector
If we had constant supply of electricity those who sell generators will lose out
Fuel consumption by nigerians will fall
Price of cold satchet water will fall

Nigeria isnt having stable power and she keeps supplying other West African countries electricity!









Isn't that pathetic?











And all of them will keep shouting hydro, hydro hydro, what about wind and solar?

An Evil, Dark Demonic writeup.

Any politician who comes out to say he/she/it can fix power within One year of office (even five years...even if its Obi)is a BLOODY LIAR who is preying on the gullible nature of Nigerians. The problem of Power in this country is not wishful thinking and opening mouth like a He-goat like some people who promised to make Naira to dollar N1 to $1 (Omo! we don suffer oo ) Power in Nigeria is Life project!

adonainana:
Lithium batteries are imported into the country just like any other imported commodity

If heavily subsidised , the price would almost be as cheap as anything

In turn Nigerians would generate its own power

Every household would generate its own power

Just exactly how obj gave MTN license in 20023 and everyone owned thier handset ever since

Unlike fossil fuels solar has no bye products and it’s clean energy w

All you need is sun for the solar panel and Nigeria has some deadly sun rays

Problem solved

This is what Nigeria has to do and must do to solve its power problem overnight

Nigeria spends billions of dollars or at least hundreds of millions on solar power equipments every year and what is being generated is not captured in the national total. I believe import duties is not much and it actually should be duty free but customs duty is still a big deal to government. Many people are going off grid but solar for a whole house is not dirt cheap too because the panels and the batteries have life span.

I don't think it is feasible or even necessary for the federal government to part pay for lithium batteries for Nigerians. Soon citizens will ask that imported vehicles should be subsidized

Gajagojo:
There is a company called Transmission Company of Nigeria
Maybe you can spend some time to get more information

Ok but privatization is not the solution to all problems. The power company of China is government owned and profitable and it is probably the biggest company in the world by revenue. There are companies owned by Oodua group that have been under government ownership since the 1940s in this same Nigeria.