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Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by Tingotoe: 12:51pm On Feb 08
HacheNoire:
An adult still believes a man fed thousands with 5 loaves of bread. 😂🤣😂🤣😂

Just use your brains and you will know is fiction. It was written like that to brainwash your ancestors about non existent powers.
It obviously never happened. Just stories. It's physically impossible
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by Vifx: 12:59pm On Feb 08
Well the miracle here may not necessarily be a miracle but a logical way to go is that the crowd moved my the little boy's willingness to share his lunch with then, also made people in the crowd to bring their own lunch and shared with others...
Basically their all share what they had
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by Kimo21(m): 1:00pm On Feb 08
Prudoh:
This story and the sun standing still by Joshua is hard to believe.

Scientifically, the sun doesn't move, as they thought then that it was moving based on what they saw 'first lie detected'. It is the Earth we live on that moves around the sun. Peradventure the Earth stops moving, everything will die because everything is in motion. Even the ocean will stop, there will be chaos. If you apply your brain, most stories in the Bible don't add up. It was written base on what they saw at the time.
Well you have to understand that in the Bible days people were not educated then. They didn’t know the laws of gravity , physics and geography. Yes the sun does not move. The earth does. Joshua didn’t know that just as you too when you where young you thought the sun “rises on the west and sets in the east” But God understood what he meant and honored it regardless that’s the thing about God. Shey you understand now. God primarily walks with people at the current level of their knowledge
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by Lucifyre: 1:14pm On Feb 08
femi4:
Can you provide the science on how water get inside the coconut
Same way milk gets into a breast. The fact you thought something so basic could be a gotcha question, shows how religion limits people's critical thinking.
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by ispreloaded(m): 1:19pm On Feb 08
femi4:
Can you provide the science on how water get inside the coconut
good ask am grin
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by femi4: 1:20pm On Feb 08
Lucifyre:
Same way milk gets into a breast. The fact you thought something so basic could be a gotcha question, shows how religion limits people's critical thinking.
Lolz, he chickened out

I can give you cases like that where science could not provide a valid explanation even after research and counter reseach
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by samfrancis1(m): 1:20pm On Feb 08
So even Jesus didn’t know bread is unhealthy. Abi what kind of loaves is it??
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by ispreloaded(m): 1:22pm On Feb 08
Lucifyre:
Same way milk gets into a breast. The fact you thought something so basic could be a gotcha question, shows how religion limits people's critical thinking.
this ur logic never add up....the breast was made to breastfeed a child....we understand dat one Wella but coconut own can u explain that?
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by ispreloaded(m): 1:26pm On Feb 08
samfrancis1:
So even Jesus didn’t know bread is unhealthy. Abi what kind of loaves is it??
u can't mock him
... rather u Mock urslf
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by PotatoSalad(m): 1:32pm On Feb 08
angelboy01:
Do you dream? If a dream isn't supernatural to you then you are like chaff in the wind. You will wither away.
So dream is supernatural.
Oh Jesus. See leaders of tomorrow angry
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by PotatoSalad(m): 1:37pm On Feb 08
femi4:
Can you provide the science on how water get inside the coconut
Is this a question? Jesus Christ. Wtf
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by payloader(m): 1:37pm On Feb 08
helinues:
Abeg how is that story logical. There are so many flops stories like that in the bible
The Bible wasn't meant to be a logical book. Spiritual things aren't logical to mundane humanity. 1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he is not able to understand them, because spiritually they are discerned
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by PotatoSalad(m): 1:38pm On Feb 08
femi4:
Lolz, he chickened out

I can give you cases like that where science could not provide a valid explanation even after research and counter reseach
I'm listening on his behalf. Give us.
And give us a religious explanation of it.
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by ispreloaded(m): 1:40pm On Feb 08
PotatoSalad:
So dream is supernatural.
Oh Jesus. See leaders of tomorrow angry
.... Are dreams part of science discovery too?
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by femi4: 1:43pm On Feb 08
PotatoSalad:
I'm listening on his behalf. Give us.
And give us a religious explanation of it.
Religion don't have explanation for what is beyond logical.

Its always science. From the world is flat to the world is spherical. They can wake up tomorrow and tell us that the world is rectangular
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by PogoTheSavior: 1:43pm On Feb 08
HacheNoire:
An adult still believes a man fed thousands with 5 loaves of bread. 😂🤣😂🤣😂

Just use your brains and you will know is fiction. It was written like that to brainwash your ancestors about non existent powers.
All three Abrahamic religions are built on lies.

Sahih al-bukhari 1339
Musa/Moses punched the angel of death and his eyes fell out. That’s what the prophet said in that Hadith.

It’s a Sahih Hadith so it’s authentic

How can any logically sound human believe these lies !!!
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by jidesp(m): 1:52pm On Feb 08
Half the time, I see a lot people skip who offered the bread and fishes.

Another gap that needs to be filled is the significance of the story. The story in my opinion wasn’t necessarily about transforming loaves of bread and fishes into thousands. But, how one act of kindness can resonate another.

A village near the river would not have lacked food, Nore importantly fishes. Did people have food in their bags that when one boy offered, the rest probably brought out their to share.

The word of God carries different meaning as it relates to our individual experience and situation.





AbundantLife05:
ABUNDANT LIFE VISION

The miracle of 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish. Matthew 14:13-21
As soon as Jesus heard the news, he left in a boat to a remote area to be alone. But the crowds heard where he was headed and followed on foot from many towns. 14 Jesus saw the huge crowd as he stepped from the boat, and he had compassion on them and healed their sick. 15 That evening the disciples came to him and said, “This is a remote place, and it’s already getting late. Send the crowds away so they can go to the villages and buy food for themselves.” 16 But Jesus said, “That isn’t necessary—you feed them.” 17 “But we have only five loaves of bread and two fish!” they answered. 18 “Bring them here,” he said. 19 Then he told the people to sit down on the grass. Jesus took the five loaves and two fish, looked up toward heaven, and blessed them. Then, breaking the loaves into pieces, he gave the bread to the disciples, who distributed it to the people. 20 They all ate as much as they wanted, and afterward, the disciples picked up twelve baskets of leftovers. 21 About 5,000 men were fed that day, in addition to all the women and children! NLT.

Good morning, dear friends. I welcome you to today’s teaching titled, the miracle of 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish. I pray that the Holy Spirit will interpret His word into our hearts in Jesus’ name. The story in our text is one that we are all familiar with, the feeding of the multitude. Today, I am writing on what necessitated the miracle and how it applies to our lives.

1. The miracle was born out of compassion. Matthew 14:14
The Bible reveals that Jesus Christ while He saw the people had compassion on them and He healed the sick. The interaction that led to the miracle of provision started from the place of compassion. The healing of the sick led to the miracle. This implies that God provides through compassion. When God is compassionate towards someone, he provides for their lack.

2. It was God’s miracle to perform. Matthew 14: 15-17
Concerning provision, it is God’s business. He is the only one that can perform miracles. Humans always see problems and we complain about it but God in His wisdom sees the solutions and He does wonders with little things. He did it with Moses when He parted the Red Sea through His rod. Exodus 14: 15-16: Then the Lord said to Moses, “Why are you crying out to me? Tell the people to get moving! 16 Pick up your staff and raise your hand over the sea. Divide the water so the Israelites can walk through the middle of the sea on dry ground. NLT. The ingredients of miracles are always around us and God turns them into mighty instruments to glorify His name.

Therefore, go to God in any area you need His miracle, particularly those centring on provision and let God turn what you have into the tool for your breakthrough. However, note that the greatest miracle God wants to give you is eternal life which is available alone through Jesus Christ. John 3:16: “For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. NLT. On this note, if you are reading this and you are ready to give your life to Him, I urge you to do so now by saying this prayer wholeheartedly; Dear Lord Jesus, I believe that you are God who came in human form to die for my sins. I confess you today as my Lord and saviour, forgive my sins and write my name in the book of life and I will serve you forever more. Amen. If you have recited the prayer wholeheartedly, I congratulate you and I urge you to join a Bible believing church around you as you begin your growth in Christ.

God bless you.
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by angelboy01(m): 1:59pm On Feb 08
PotatoSalad:
So dream is supernatural.
Oh Jesus. See leaders of tomorrow angry
So are you the one who created the dream yourself. Joseph had a supernatural dreams his brothers would betray him and he would be King over his brother's. Nikolas Tesla had dreams about angels showing him what to do towards his inventions. Since you probably think I don't know what I'm saying read about Nikolas Tesla and the supernatural dreams he had about angels solving problems for him.
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by HacheNoire: 2:05pm On Feb 08
PogoTheSavior:
All three Abrahamic religions are built on lies.

Sahih al-bukhari 1339
Musa/Moses punched the angel of death and his eyes fell out. That’s what the prophet said in that Hadith.

It’s a Sahih Hadith so it’s authentic

How can any logically sound human believe these lies !!!
It’s called brainwashing.

Your reasoning is formatted to believe what you are told.
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by PotatoSalad(m): 2:27pm On Feb 08
femi4:
Religion don't have explanation for what is beyond logical.

Its always science. From the world is flat to the world is spherical. They can wake up tomorrow and tell us that the world is rectangular
But religion told you that the earth is the center of the universe and that there's a dome right above you and you rode with it.
🥺
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by PotatoSalad(m): 2:29pm On Feb 08
angelboy01:
So are you the one who created the dream yourself. Joseph had a supernatural dreams his brothers would betray him and he would be King over his brother's. Nikolas Tesla had dreams about angels showing him what to do towards his inventions. Since you probably think I don't know what I'm saying read about Nikolas Tesla and the supernatural dreams he had about angels solving problems for him.
This might sound sarcastic but this dude is serious as hell. Jesus Christ!
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by mirrael68(m): 2:32pm On Feb 08
helinues:
Abeg how is that story logical. There are so many flops stories like that in the bible
The Bible is not a book of logic or human strength or reasoning, but a book of God's dealings with his people. A God who was, is and is to come.
Or you don't believe God is unlimited and is able to do good always and any way He chooses to?
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by mirrael68(m): 2:34pm On Feb 08
PogoTheSavior:
All three Abrahamic religions are built on lies.

Sahih al-bukhari 1339
Musa/Moses punched the angel of death and his eyes fell out. That’s what the prophet said in that Hadith.

It’s a Sahih Hadith so it’s authentic

I don't know about the rests, but Christianity is Truth through and through. The only Truth
How can any logically sound human believe these lies !!!
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by mirrael68(m): 2:37pm On Feb 08
jidesp:
Half the time, I see a lot people skip who offered the bread and fishes.

Another gap that needs to be filled is the significance of the story. The story in my opinion wasn’t necessarily about transforming loaves of bread and fishes into thousands. But, how one act of kindness can resonate another.

A village near the river would not have lacked food, Nore importantly fishes. Did people have food in their bags that when one boy offered, the rest probably brought out their to share.

The word of God carries different meaning as it relates to our individual experience and situation.
This is your private interpretation and not the story in the Bible.
Remember the Bible warns against private interpretations.
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by mirrael68(m): 2:42pm On Feb 08
AntiChristian:
Jesus never fed people by himself. No credit to Jesus but to the one that sent him.

Jesus of himself can do nothing!
Jesus as Son of man ( visible person ) you mean. Jesus as Son of God ( invisible) can do anything.
Jesus had two natures- of course you can't comprehend.
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by karmaolu1(m): 2:51pm On Feb 08
My problem is why is Jesus white

Then Devil blackhuhhuhhuhhuhhuh??

That mean I and U are all devil grin
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by ispreloaded(m): 2:52pm On Feb 08
I have see miracle with my two eyes.... Stop doubting it.... cool
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by FrankyJay55: 3:02pm On Feb 08
That you don't believe and understand it is a testament that God is God and He is the almighty. Cuz the ways of God can not be understood by the mere understanding or reasoning of men.
If it can be explained then it's no longer a miracle.






helinues:
Abeg how is that story logical. There are so many flops stories like that in the bible
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by Lucifyre: 3:13pm On Feb 08
femi4:
Lolz, he chickened out

I can give you cases like that where science could not provide a valid explanation even after research and counter reseach
Man you guys like demonstrating your ignorance, anyways I'm glad to educate you. I purposefully gave you that analogy to clue you in but somethings are denser than coconut water it seems.

Water doesn’t “get in” from the outside at all. It’s made by the coconut itself during development, using water and nutrients pulled up from the tree through the stem while the fruit is growing. hence the breast analogy which flew right past.

It basically starts with the liquid The liquid is the endosperm, fluid meant to feed the embryo (the baby coconut plant). As the coconut matures, some of that liquid solidifies and lines the inside of the shell, that’s the white part of the coconut. Thr remaining fluid is what's the 'coconut water'. So educate urself, cause this is embarrassing, truly.

Even if we had not understood or known how it worked, it would in no way make the empty claims of your religion true. Cause throughout history all the so called mysterious and supernatural claims of religion that bordered on our ignorance, which we then investigated and found answers to, not one of those answers turned out to be anything supernatural. The supernatural has a 100% failure rate.

Yet dim peeps still make the mistake tht science can answer everything and religion answers anything. Enjoy your L.
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by Lucifyre:
ispreloaded:
this ur logic never add up....the breast was made to breastfeed a child....we understand dat one Wella but coconut own can u explain that?
Again the analogy flies right past. Read my other comment and educate yourself please. Incredultiy around 'coconut water' in the 21st century. Christ.
Re: The Miracle Of 5 Loaves Of Bread And 2 Fish by PogoTheSavior: 3:17pm On Feb 08
[quote author=mirrael68 post=138402366][/quote]Based on the text of the Old Testament, there are several instances where God is depicted as commanding the Israelites to completely destroy certain nations, including men, women, and children. The most prominent examples include the command to annihilate the Canaanites (Deuteronomy 20:16-18) and the destruction of the Amalekites (1 Samuel 15:3).

In thses verses you can see the God in the Bible commanding genocide.
Again
All three religions are built on lies
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