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Psoul:
In as much as this write up is well detailed and promoted modern medicine, saying that traditional way of curing snake bite showed shallow knowledge of our local traditional medicine practices that have existed over years.

Most of our modern medicines source our locals herbs and roots. Our fathers were blessed with knowledge of how to combine these herbs and roots to product potent cure for make ailments including snake bites.

I was bitten by Cobra at the age of 19.
I nearly died. My leg became twice bigger with numbing feeling.
I became weak, fragile and pale within few minutes.

When the local medicine was applied, I vomited even greenish stuff. I became calm and slept off.
It took few days for the swollen leg to return to normal.

I survived the dangerous venomous snake bite. This is 36 years after the bite and no complications.

The pic below is the scar from the snake bite on my leg.

Can you still remember the local medication applied, mind sharing it?

AkpaMgbor:
The man was 15 minutes away from FMC. But to answer your question, first of all there has to be a good awareness of our natural environment, this will help most snake bite victims to identify and understand the threat level of a snake bite ( Australians do this so it is possible to replicate). A hemotoxic venom can be temporarily localized by using a tourniquet (there are some dangers to it but still)…a neurotoxic venom cannot be localized by using a tourniquet because it attacks the nerves which are located deeper than blood vessels.
The implication of your question is a bitter but important one. Bitter in the sense that without getting quick and proper antivenin treatment specific to a particular venom, death is almost certain. Important in the sense that we need to fund and improve our primary health centers in the rural especially those with higher snake bite rates.

Thanks. I've learnt a lot from you. Thanks

Alaefulu:
This is helpful,but I still disagree with the part you said there is no local cure to snake bite.our fore father's have been living with snakes and treating themselves of snake bite even before the white men came to explore Africa.

Most snake bites aren't fatal. That's why it seemed those herbal treatment worked.

Only antibodies fight snake venoms.

Antivenoms are made from natural antibodies from cattle. They're made same way vaccines are made, just that they're not vaccines.

Erikiel:
Can you still remember the local medication applied, mind sharing it?

I don't know the content of the small portion of liquid I was given to drink. This liquid made me to vomit instantly.
He also squeezed fresh herb on the bite spot.

Spe23:
Imagine this scenario:

Someone stays in a village far away from the city. Moving from the village to the nearest hospital in the city takes 1 hour. The person in the village is bitten by a dangerous snake. The venom takes maximum of 30 minutes to kill even with pressure immobilisation technique if not treated.

What do you think should be done to save the person's life?

The patient dies.

The question you should be asking is why your government doesn't fund healthcare better so that we have better response times. Like a helicopter transport, and antivenom at primary health care level

Good evening.

nairalanda1:
The patient dies.

The question you should be asking is why your government doesn't fund healthcare better so that we have better response times. Like a helicopter transport, and antivenom at primary health care level

Good evening.

This your submission is brutal!

I strongly believe a person bitten by venomous snake could still be saved in the absence of anti-venom.

If this scenario happens to someone in my presence I'll do the following:

- I'll use a rope to tie the upper part of the snakebite spot temporarily.
- I'll use razor blade to make many incisions around the snakebite spot.
- Then, I'll strongly squeeze out the venom through those incisions.
- I might not be successful in removing all the venom but I'm sure most of the venom will be washed out through the incisions. All this I will do within few minutes say 2 to 3 minutes.
- Then, I'll untie the rope, cover the wound with a clean cloth and immobilise the limb assuming it's a limb.
- Then, we take the person to the hospital.

Hopefully, this first aid can give the victim a longer survival window, and the person will be able to get the anti-venom.

nairalanda1:
Venom travels via the lymphatic system , not blood system. Tourniquet won't help in that regard

Are you saying tourniquet cannot obstruct lymphatic vessels?

Spe23:
This your submission is brutal!

I strongly believe a person bitten by venomous snake could still be saved in the absence of anti-venom.

If this scenario happens to someone in my presence I'll do the following:

- I'll use a rope to tie the upper part of the snakebite spot temporarily.
- I'll use razor blade to make many incisions around the snakebite spot.
- Then, I'll strongly squeeze out the venom through those incisions.
- I might not be successful in removing all the venom but I'm sure most of the venom will be washed out through the incisions. All this I will do within few minutes say 2 to 3 minutes.
- Then, I'll untie the rope, cover the wound with a clean cloth and immobilise the limb assuming it's a limb.
- Then, we take the person to the hospital.

Hopefully, this first aid can give the victim a longer survival window, and the person will be able to get the anti-venom.

1. If you use a rope to tie around the patient's leg or arm, e no go work. Snake venom travels in the lymphatic system which is so deeply embedded in the body. No amount of tourniquet go work. Then there is amputation and the fact that releasing the tourniquet can release toxin byproduct into the body which can also kill the patient

2. Using razor blade around the spot risks introducing tetanus into the wound plus other bacteria inside which could cause things.ranging from a septic wound to general sepsis. Even if you say blade is clean, it still doesn't guarantee asepsis

3. Squeezing out the venom doesn't work. See no 1 as to why.

4.again as for why washing out the venom won't work, see no 1 again.

5. Untying the rope can cause even more problems. Again see no 1

Like I said ,.ask your government why healthcare in Nigeria is bad and also ask why pharma can't make antivenom for Africa.

And don't argue with me . I work in medicine and have treated snake bite victims. I know the eff what I am talking about

Spe23:
Are you saying tourniquet cannot obstruct lymphatic vessels?

It can't. It's too deeply embedded in the body. Unless you are prepared to apply enough pressure to cut off the patient's leg.

Again don't argue with me

What local herb is that?

AmishaCandra:
I've been beaten by a snake and was at the edge of death before the local harb was given to me which i drank and threw up the poison through my mouth,, that was about 8 years ago I'm still alive so stop spreeding nonsense boi. And stop talking if you've not been a victim, stop assuming.

How do you fumigate the house. Who do you call for it?

Jayhome24:
[b]You are asking somebody with those Nigeria demonc snakes bite to sit according to the diagram above ba? I swear the person will die on that sitting.

Wait minute what are you talking about?

Guys don't listen to that shit diagram. Pls in any snake pls you rush inside your house or wherever you can ask for bitter Kola chew a whole Bitter Kola and swallow it the chemical in Bitter kola will quickly neutralise thee venom power then rush to hospital for medcal help...

Secondly pls do fumigation every 3 or 4 months it will help you a long way...

Thirdly, as an Africa, dice Bitter kola into pieces may be 3 or 4 dice it and pour it in a empty bottle add Gin(preferably) or add water to it leave it for 3 days then after 3 days its ready any snake bite or scorpion or spider bite just take a shot or a small glass of it and drinks it immediately then tie rope just above the bitten spot tightly and seek for medical help.

Don't take my remedy as a joke I have all these stuff ready made in my house despite I fumigate every 4month compulsory..[/b]

What do you mean that antivenoms are made from cattle?

CorrectionFLuid:
Most snake bites aren't fatal. That's why it seemed those herbal treatment worked.

Only antibodies fight snake venoms.

Antivenoms are made from natural antibodies from cattle. They're made same way vaccines are made, just that they're not vaccines.

Love800:
How do you fumigate the house. Who do you call for it?

There are people who do it as their business. Go to NL business section few of them are there just call hem and tell them wht you want.

Love800:
What do you mean that antivenoms are made from cattle?

If a scientist wants to make a cobra antivenom, he extracts venom from a cobra, and injects a non lethal dose in livestock like cattle, horse, etc. The animal produces antibodies to fight the venom. The scientist extracts and processes the antibodies.

Thanks so much.

Jayhome24:
There are people who do it as their business. Go to NL business section few of them are there just call hem and tell them wht you want.

What do you mean by "non leather dose?"

Why didn't he inject the real leather dose so the horse can withstand it?

Your comment is so confusing.

CorrectionFLuid:
If a scientist wants to make a cobra antivenom, he extracts venom from a cobra, and injects a non lethal dose in livestock like cattle, horse, etc. The animal produces antibodies to fight the venom. The scientist extracts and processes the antibodies.

Love800:
What do you mean by "non leather dose?"

Why didn't he inject the real leather dose so the horse can withstand it?

Your comment is so confusing.

It's non lethal, not leather.

That's the amount of venom dose just sufficient to trigger the production of antibodies without making the animal suffer.

My last question.

So its the horse that will provide the antivenoms?

CorrectionFLuid:
It's non lethal, not leather.

That's the amount of venom dose just sufficient to trigger the production of antibodies without making the animal suffer.

They don't tell the name because they make their money from it, that's why not everyone knows about it

Love800:
What local herb is that?

Love800:
My last question.

So its the horse that will provide the antivenoms?

Or cattle, yes.

Wow.

Learnt something new.

Okay.

I appreciate.

CorrectionFLuid:
Or cattle, yes.

Alright.

I appreciate.

AmishaCandra:
They don't tell the name because they make their money from it, that's why not everyone knows about it

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