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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 12:33pm On Feb 16
⚔Iranian Revolutionary Guards starts military drills in the Strait of Hormuz.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 12:36pm On Feb 16
⚔The US has deployed approximately 33% of it's Naval Fleet around Iran.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gerrard59(m): 1:01pm On Feb 16
LordAdam16:
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eventually, one of those false starts will be a real start and anyone caught napping will be shredded

the us cannot be asking iran to give up nuclear enrichment, give up missiles, give up its proxies, not launch satellites, stop selling oil to china
and claim they don't want war

when they are done using negotiation as cover to build up forces
they should start the war




their own don too much
i said late last year that iran's odds are 50:50
now i'm like, f*ck the odds, war it is

how can a pdf wake up one morning and say persia cannot launch satellites
what are they smoking?
persia should give up its missiles
for what?
after imposing sanctions on them, you're telling them not to sell to their biggest buyer that ignored the sanctions

whether they want war or not
they must bleed
they've gone too far

-Lord
The bold is important to note because, should Iran refuse, hopefully so, to concede to those demands from the US, would the US stand by doing nothing? It means one party wants a conflict, and conflict means war. The same people who criticised JD Vance for his speech gave a standing ovation to Rubio, and we think these guys are playing when it comes to causing conflicts in any part of the world, so they achieve their desires?

na this thing dey make many of our countries dey so unaware:
- "no they cannot do any harm, they are our friends"
- "America loves us and is here for good"

meanwhile these people have it made crystal clear and continue doing so in a social media age where information is easily accessible, regardless of location. A major reason I like the Trump administration is that you will not feign ignorance because they have stated what they want and how they view each region of the world.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 1:39pm On Feb 16
Scorpio99:
I just love the way Writeerng is losing it everywhere. From front page to this thread, we, the three musketeers šŸ˜‚ really did this guy bad.
He collect bloodyšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by emmaodet: 1:51pm On Feb 16
LordAdam16:
the us cannot be asking iran to give up nuclear enrichment, give up missiles, give up its proxies, not launch satellites, stop selling oil to china
and claim they don't want war
when they are done using negotiation as cover to build up forces
they should start the war




their own don too much
-Lord
Exactly bro.
You don't want them to have nuclear weapons, even ballistic missiles nor have satellites. Then what exactly do you want them to have? NOTHING.
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Just a Kangaroo country you can send Isreal to blow up any time you want just like Syria, Lebanon and Iraq.
At a point, i even thought Lebanon, Syria and Iraq don't have Airforce not Air defence system because of the reckless bombing by Isreal any time, any day.

If there is any threat in the ME that needs to disarm and not have nuclear, it is Isreal and not Iran.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by soqmeov(m): 2:13pm On Feb 16
WriteerNg:
⚔The US has deployed approximately 33% of it's Naval Fleet around Iran.
Lol! I heard Iran just opened a couple of Mc Donald's restaurant, hence the Yank's attraction. 🧲
I mean, who wouldn't want a taste of them Persian Big Mac? grin grin grin




Which war are y'all talking about?
šŸ˜šŸ¤”šŸ¤¦
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 2:53pm On Feb 16
WriteerNg:
⚔Iranian Revolutionary Guards starts military drills in the Strait of Hormuz.
they've temporarily closed parts of the hormuz strait

dry run for d day

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 2:57pm On Feb 16
Gerrard59:
The bold is important to note because, should Iran refuse, hopefully so, to concede to those demands from the US, would the US stand by doing nothing? It means one party wants a conflict, and conflict means war. The same people who criticised JD Vance for his speech gave a standing ovation to Rubio, and we think these guys are playing when it comes to causing conflicts in any part of the world, so they achieve their desires?

na this thing dey make many of our countries dey so unaware:
- "no they cannot do any harm, they are our friends"
- "America loves us and is here for good"

meanwhile these people have it made crystal clear and continue doing so in a social media age where information is easily accessible, regardless of location. A major reason I like the Trump administration is that you will not feign ignorance because they have stated what they want and how they view each region of the world.
the us needs its vietnam moment in iran

the us does not make concessions until after there is incontrovertible evidence that force would not work
they adopt this path because they believe they can extricate themselves from any quagmire at any time

in vietnam, one day they decided their fatalities wasn't worth their stated objectives and they winded down
they didn't stay a day longer
they left and never turned back going on 40+ years
today they trade with vietnam to the tune of billions of dollars

in iraq, they gave up and let the shias rule and be vassals to iran
in afghanistan, they gave up and let the talibans return

look at ukraine
they were never going to let russia seek to reset the eurasian security architecture without bloodshed confirming force would not work
and now that they have confirmed force will not work
they've pawned off the responsibilities to europe, europe buys the weapons from them to send to ukraine
and they're trying to secure a detente with russia

it'll be the same thing with china
they'll never accept china as the pacific top dog until there is a war that proves force wouldn't work to cripple china
taiwan, south korea, japan, philippines, australia
something will give, millions will d** and then they'll accept some sort of detente




so this is iran's moment
this was inevitable

there would always be a grand culmination

the curious thing is that they did not want a total war
they were content with economic war, color revolutions, and the odd week-long campaign
but iran flipped the script on them
they were hoping the insurgency would weaken the regime
the terrorists will seize nodes of power
then they will come in and have a shock and awe/no fly zone campaign
after which the government will be unable to retaliate and be unable to stop the terrorists from gaining the upper hand as in libya

this is the riskier path
but they'll still commit to it
because the worst that'll happen is that they lose thousands and then sign a jcpoa+
but they do not want to give iran a jcpoa+ until it is absolutely clear that using force will not work




let's be realistic
the taliban had a grueling war
the insurgency in iraq was laborious
the vietnam war was very bloody

but if you want to get to the other side
you have to enter the tunnel
you have to smash through their fancy gizmos and their undeserved cloak of superiority
if even the russians are finding that out with their large nuke arsenal
the persians must prepare themselves for the eventuality
there is no shortcut

iran needs this war to secure lasting peace
no one is talking about invading afghanistan or vietnam anymore
afghanistan is still fundamentalist and vietnam is still communist
for once, they don't care enough about human rights and democracy to send their "geologists" and "liberty missionaries"




i wish there was a way for iran to avoid this
but there isn't
especially not when the genocidal c*nts are involved

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 3:00pm On Feb 16
soqmeov:
Lol! I heard Iran just opened a couple of Mc Donald's restaurant, hence the Yank's attraction. 🧲
I mean, who wouldn't want a taste of them Persian Big Mac? grin grin grin




Which war are y'all talking about?
šŸ˜šŸ¤”šŸ¤¦
one third of their entire navy

but as you say maybe they are converging to check out newly opened mcdonalds

what do we know

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 3:40pm On Feb 16
⚔Rubio:

China's a big country. It's got a billion-something people, the second largest economy in the world. They have nuclear weapons.

It would be crazy, it is insane for the United States and China not to have relations and interact with one another.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 3:41pm On Feb 16
⚔Former CIA Officer John Kiriakou:

The FBI has identified 187 Mossad agents in the United States not declared to the US government spread all around the country to steal our defense secrets.

And I raised my hand. I said, ā€œWhy? We give them 99% of our defense secrets.ā€ And he said, ā€œExactly. They're here to steal the last 1%.ā€

And that's what they do. The Israelis are not friends of the United States.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 3:42pm On Feb 16
⚔Rubio:

It's not good for anybody to rely on one country or one economy for 90% of anything, especially things like critical supply chains. This is a reality.

We want to diversify supply chains around the world. We've spoken clearly about it.

That's not an anti-China thing. That's just the reality that over-dependence on one source is not good, especially when there's been a willingness in the past to use it as leverage against each other.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 3:43pm On Feb 16
⚔Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps has launched naval drills called ā€œSmart Control of the Strait of Hormuz.ā€

The exercises aim to test IRGC Navy readiness, review security and military response plans for potential threats in the strait.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 3:49pm On Feb 16
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 4:04pm On Feb 16
LordAdam16:
the us needs its vietnam moment in iran

the us does not make concessions until after there is incontrovertible evidence that force would not work
they adopt this path because they believe they can extricate themselves from any quagmire at any time

in vietnam, one day they decided their fatalities wasn't worth their stated objectives and they winded down
they didn't stay a day longer
they left and never turned back going on 40+ years
today they trade with vietnam to the tune of billions of dollars

in iraq, they gave up and let the shias rule and be vassals to iran
in afghanistan, they gave up and let the talibans return

look at ukraine
they were never going to let russia seek to reset the eurasian security architecture without bloodshed confirming force would not work
and now that they have confirmed force will not work
they've pawned off the responsibilities to europe, europe buys the weapons from them to send to ukraine
and they're trying to secure a detente with russia

it'll be the same thing with china
they'll never accept china as the pacific top dog until there is a war that proves force wouldn't work to cripple china
taiwan, south korea, japan, philippines, australia
something will give, millions will d** and then they'll accept some sort of detente




so this is iran's moment
this was inevitable

there would always be a grand culmination

the curious thing is that they did not want a total war
they were content with economic war, color revolutions, and the odd week-long campaign
but iran flipped the script on them
they were hoping the insurgency would weaken the regime
the terrorists will seize nodes of power
then they will come in and have a shock and awe/no fly zone campaign
after which the government will be unable to retaliate and be unable to stop the terrorists from gaining the upper hand as in libya

this is the riskier path
but they'll still commit to it
because the worst that'll happen is that they lose thousands and then sign a jcpoa+
but they do not want to give iran a jcpoa+ until it is absolutely clear that using force will not work




let's be realistic
the taliban had a grueling war
the insurgency in iraq was laborious
the vietnam war was very bloody

but if you want to get to the other side
you have to enter the tunnel
you have to smash through their fancy gizmos and their undeserved cloak of superiority
if even the russians are finding that out with their large nuke arsenal
the persians must prepare themselves for the eventuality
there is no shortcut

iran needs this war to secure lasting peace
no one is talking about invading afghanistan or vietnam anymore
afghanistan is still fundamentalist and vietnam is still communist
for once, they don't care enough about human rights and democracy to send their "geologists" and "liberty missionaries"




i wish there was a way for iran to avoid this
but there isn't
especially not when the genocidal c*nts are involved

-Lord


I concur.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 4:34pm On Feb 16
asher hayon, satanyahu's former chief of staff is dead




told y'all something sus is happening

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 4:37pm On Feb 16
⚔Lukashenko:

"The Americans made a stupid mistake with Venezuela. They asked me to mediate — I offered the ideal solution. They rejected it. Now they've grabbed Maduro. For what? It was never about drugs. It was always about oil."


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 4:42pm On Feb 16
⚔Asher Hayon, a former chief of staff and adviser to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, died suddenly this morning at age 58, the Prime Minister’s Office says in a statement.

Hayon retired from public service in recent years due to health issues, according to Hebrew media reports, which also note that his roles were primarily administrative and strategic, and that he preferred to keep a low profile.

Netanyahu received the news ā€œwith deep shock and immense sorrow,ā€ the premier says in the statement, saying he carried out his roles as office director and later as chief of staff in the PMO between 2018 and 2022 ā€œwith great loyalty,ā€ adding that their relationship began when Hayon worked as his adviser two decades ago during the premier’s tenure as finance minister.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 5:12pm On Feb 16
dermmy:
Chai...I so much love that series. May his soul rest in peace. Can we say the rogue state Israel has done this?
She's a she
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by emmaodet: 5:24pm On Feb 16
[quote author=WriteerNg post=138486668]⚔Rubio:

It's not good for anybody to rely on one country or one economy for 90% of anything, especially things like critical supply chains. This is a reality.

We want to diversify supply chains around the world. We've spoken clearly about it.

That's not an anti-China thing. That's just the reality that over-dependence on one source is not good, especially when there's been a willingness in the past to use it as leverage against each other.


, you are right including the Dollars too.

It is very wrong for most countries to use it as there main source of international transaction since the US had used it as a leverage before
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 5:32pm On Feb 16
⚔Israeli Cabinet Secretary Yossi Fuchs, a senior Netanyahu aide, says that Israel has given Hamas a 60-day ultimatum to fully disarm, or else the IDF will resume the war in Gaza.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 5:41pm On Feb 16
WriteerNg:
⚔Israeli Cabinet Secretary Yossi Fuchs, a senior Netanyahu aide, says that Israel has given Hamas a 60-day ultimatum to fully disarm, or else the IDF will resume the war in Gaza.
Calm down and look for peace the trouble will never end so live side by side
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 5:44pm On Feb 16
Kingsnairaland:
Calm down and look for peace the trouble will never end so live side by side
But can they ever be peace as long as they're armed?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 6:04pm On Feb 16
Lawag3:
She's a she
Oh...thanks.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 6:16pm On Feb 16
⚔Senator Graham on Iran:

I think the regime will collapse with sustained pressure. It’s so weak. You know, they fly F-14s? A lot has happened since Top Gun 1. So their Air Force is — that’s a great movie, but it was made in the ’80s. So I don’t like their chances in the sky.

They have a lot of ballistic missiles. They could hurt us. They could do damage to Israel. But every day that goes by in the war, they get less capable and we get more, because we have such a dominant advantage.

There is risk associated with taking the regime down militarily. But the risk, compared to the risk of doing nothing, is small.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 6:18pm On Feb 16
⚔Senator Graham on Iran:

We’re into weeks, not months, in terms of decision-making.


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