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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by livelongprospa: 2:12pm On Feb 17




Doctors dey try for naija.
Because it cannot be me doing this for anybody to cause me later of being bad at my job


36 million naira as budget to run hospitals
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeadPresidents: 2:17pm On Feb 17
Unlimited22:
Wicked abroadian! 😏
I get conscience na why I marry my own instead of to dey twist other people own like that wicked Russian cheesy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:34pm On Feb 17
monerozi5590:
Everything you said is correct except the "price of food decreasing"

The price of some commodities is decreasing through the backdoor ( free importation, no import tariff) .
So price of food is decreasing, Just that you do not agree with the method of decreasing it
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:35pm On Feb 17
Spy360:
Explain why Obi won Lagos
Why will anyone who won an election care about winning or losing Lagos

The objective of election is to win the entire country but someone who gets advice from a mad man will think winning Lagos means winning the election
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:50pm On Feb 17
DissTroy:
Lagos was far ahead of other states during colonial times before Tinubu was born.
Roads were horrible under Tinubu and public infrastructure in disrepair.
Oshodi and Mushin under Tinubu were just like Aba before Otti. Anybody who lived in Lagos pre-Fashola can confirm. It took Fashoda less than two years to clean up these areas which Tinubu couldn't do in 8 years.
Lekki FTZ isn't exactly a making of Tinubu. There are other FTZ like the Onne FTZ in Rivers and recently the Liberty FTZ in Akwa Ibom. All by pronouncements of the Federal Government. You should thank Obasanjo for it, not Tinubu.
LATMA and the likes had their own versions across states in Rivers under Amaechi (Heard of TIMARIV? Google it.) and Akwa Ibom under Akpabio. Sustainability by successive governments is another debate entirely.
Under Tinubu, Lagos had a high crime rate (higher than the rest of the country despite not being the only ethnically heterogeneous one), poor public infrastructure and the likes.

Heck! It was common knowledge companies in the Ikeja parts and other areas had to tar and fix roads as part of their CSR because the LASG was lacking. Not different from what Shell was doing in Rivers' Bonny Island or Mobil and ALSCON were doing in Akwa Ibom's Eket and Ikot Abasi respectively.
There were several years of misrule and neglect by the military which preceded Tinubu. Which he had to clean up. I remember how flooded Victoria Island used to be especially Ahmadu Bello Road and the vision to clean it up

The leadership of Tinubu an his mentorship of his successors ensured that the vision was kept alive, Without Tinubu, Fashola will never win a ward in Lagos. If instead of Fashola it was Obanikoro or PDP who succeeded Tinubu, an argument can be made that Lagos would not experience that growth it did. The failure of Amaechi is why the light rail in Rivers has been abandoned while the ones in Lagos have been completed


This is an article below showing when Tinubu went to China and negotiated with investors to the Lekki FTZ, That is visionary, why have other FTZ's not have that success

He achieved all these as governor despite the FG holding back LG funds for Lagos

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:01pm On Feb 17
DissTroy:
Going from Victoria Island or Maryland to Ajah to visit relatives was hellish. The roads were horrible.

From Iju-Ishaga or even Ketu to AIT's Alagbado was testing. Stuck in traffic for hours. That's if your vehicle doesn't fall into a crater in the middle of the road.

You want to navigate from Ketu to Abule Egba? Good luck with the roads.

Spend hours in traffic on a Sunday. Stay for no more than two hours with relatives then endure the hours back.

It's one of the reasons people didn't visit relatives often growing up. Except during long holidays as kids.

Why are people insisting on whitewashing Tinubu, making him out to be who he wasn't as Lagos State Governor?

Point out his proteges like Fashola and we'll give him credit for choosing a greater successor. But Tinubu? These lies don't fly. Some of us can remember vividly.

Tinubu was horrible as a Governor and he had violent scandals trail him all his years as Governor. From Funsho Williams to others.
The violent scandals attached to Tinubu are propaganda. OBJ and his PDP goons were the ones killing all over the country, Harry Marshalls was killed in Rivers, Barnabas Igwe was killed in Anambra, Dikibo was killed in Delta, Bola Ige was killed in Ibadan etc

Funsho Williams was killed by the PDP machinery of OBJ, Obanikoro and Ogunlewe. In the aftermath of Funshos murder, Obanikoro and Ogunlewe were detained, Funsho's family pointed at Obanikoro especially who was briefly detained until he was ordered released from Abuja

Actually Hilda Williams the widow of Funsho won the Lagos PDP primary, before OBJ from Abuja ordered the result to be changed and handed the PDP ticket to Obanikoro

Attached are the list of murders and political violence in that time that you claimed violent scandals trailed Tinubu

Under which other president have we had these many political murders as we had under OBJ

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:08pm On Feb 17
DeadPresidents:
Was in Norway with Wifey for the weekend and must confess, the Scandinavians are built different. The final bosses of liberalist idealogy

An Indian sales guy in a 7-11 grocery i had a convo with decried how the crime rate in Oslo had skyrocketed as a result of uncontrolled migration. Pretty much pointed out some parts of Oslo to avoid at night. I know say na those Somali boys be the culprits but i nor get evidence
Is this not what Trump says that people call him racist? Public Policy should be with common sense like Marco Rubio said in Munich


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlL3pwlO2rE
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:15pm On Feb 17
CrystalTiger:
So BAT dn comot himself from National Grid..Spent #17bn of Nigerians taxes to take himself out lol

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tinubu wont remove the solar to his personal house after his tenure, It will ensure that long term Aso rock will not have to keep blowing billions on electricity. Aso rock off the grid ensure more capacity for regular Nigerians

17bn sent on solar vs 47bn yearly bill for NEPA

Shows a smart administrator of resources

The Director General of the Energy Commission of Nigeria, Mustapha Abdulahi, said it is unsustainable for the Aso Rock Villa to continue to pay about ₦47 billion yearly in power bills.

He said that this is why President Bola Tinubu approved ₦10 billion for the solar power grid to power the presidential villa.
In 2024, In an advertorial titled ‘Notice of disconnection’, the Abuja Electricity Distribution Company (AEDC) said the presidential villa owes an electricity bill of N923.87 million.
It issued a 10-day notice to the presidential villa and 86 government ministries, departments, and agencies (MDAs) to pay the N47.1 billion electricity debt they owe or risk disconnection.
https://www.channelstv.com/2025/04/25/%E2%82%A647bn-yearly-power-bill-unsustainable-fg-explains-aso-rock-solar-installation/

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nezzjnr: 3:41pm On Feb 17
These are the issues

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 3:56pm On Feb 17
Nezzjnr:
These are the issues
Maybe if it was his relative that was among the slaughtered 170, he would have thought differently.

Another person corpse go be like firewood to a stranger
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 3:56pm On Feb 17
raumdeuter:
There were several years of misrule and neglect by the military which preceded Tinubu. Which he had to clean up. I remember how flooded Victoria Island used to be especially Ahmadu Bello Road and the vision to clean it up

The leadership of Tinubu an his mentorship of his successors ensured that the vision was kept alive, Without Tinubu, Fashola will never win a ward in Lagos. If instead of Fashola it was Obanikoro or PDP who succeeded Tinubu, an argument can be made that Lagos would not experience that growth it did. The failure of Amaechi is why the light rail in Rivers has been abandoned while the ones in Lagos have been completed


This is an article below showing when Tinubu went to China and negotiated with investors to the Lekki FTZ, That is visionary, why have other FTZ's not have that success

He achieved all these as governor despite the FG holding back LG funds for Lagos
No! This is wrong.

If a Nigerian state government requires a free trade zone, it needs the vetting and approval of the Federal Government. Just like you need the FG for any actualization of seaport dreams. Please prove me wrong.

The same Obasanjo granted Lekki FTZ, just as Onne FTZ was granted in Rivers, and Buhari granted Liberty FTZ to Akwa Ibom in 2020. Go and verify.


Thank goodness you admitted the roads were horrible under Tinubu.
Stop attributing Fashola's and Ambode's successes to Tinubu. Same way Ronaldinho helped Messi settle in as Barça's main man but Messi' successes are entirely his.

Tinubu was a terrible Governor. We have not forgotten so you guys should stop trying to paint a different picture.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 4:00pm On Feb 17
DeadPresidents:
I get conscience na why I marry my own instead of to dey twist other people own like that wicked Russian cheesy
😂😂😂😂

All the best to you and yours, chief
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeadPresidents: 4:03pm On Feb 17
raumdeuter:
Is this not what Trump says that people call him racist? Public Policy should be with common sense like Marco Rubio said in Munich


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlL3pwlO2rE
Trump is a smart, racist politician. I call him smart because he understands as a showbiz icon, how to give the people what they want.

That aside, I believe you should only allow people to be in the country that have a reason to be in it that aligns with the country’s operating principles. I feel a country can be likened to an enterprise and enterprises only hire employees that provide value and fit the culture.

The problem is that, for the supremacist viewpoint, it doesn’t matter what you do. Even if you provide value to the society, you are unable to satisfy the checkbox of fitting the culture if you’re not a white protestant originating from a pre-defined place of origin and consequently you should be dislodged from the enterprise.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 4:05pm On Feb 17
Raumdeuter, forget about the political violence under Tinubu for now. Let's really analyze Tinubu as Governor. He was horrible.

Capital projects: Poor.

Unemployment: No real way to measure then but given the observable, poor.

Security: Don't even get me started.

What did Tinubu really do as Governor other than to magnetize the encomiums of past governors like Mobolaji Johnson as his; and his supporters telling us all what Fashola did were by Tinubu?

Judge Tinubu as an entity not by association: What did Tinubu really do as Governor?

Thankfully some of the guys here also grew up in Lagos under him so we can all corroborate those claims?

Nothing really. He couldn't even maintain roads by past adminstrators like Jakande that's why the roads were horrible.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:40pm On Feb 17
DissTroy:
Rumdeuter, forget about the political violence under Tinubu for now. Let's really analyze Tinubu as Governor. He was horrible.

Capital projects: Poor.

Unemployment: No real way to measure then but given the observable, poor.

Security: Don't even get me started.

What did Tinubu really do as Governor other than to magnetize the encomiums of past governors like Mobolaji Johnson as his; and his supporters telling us all what Fashola did were by Tinubu?

Judge Tinubu as an entity not by association: What did Tinubu really do as Governor?

Thankfully some of the guys here also grew up in Lagos under him so we can all corroborate those claims?

Nothing really. He couldn't even maintain roads by past adminstrators like Jakande that's why the roads were horrible.
So when the smear of the political violence did not stick, you wanted us to ignore it. Okay we move, we will get there gradually


Only a liar will say his eye witness is in heaven, I am provding projects and links to verify them instantly, No need to go far to verify

Capital projects:
Atlantic reclamation and Eko Atlantic,
https://www.thepointng.com/eko-atlantic-city-the-growing-politicisation-of-a-coastal-city/

Kudirat Abiola way


Ikotun-Igando road
https://allafrica.com/stories/200103010335.html

Reconstruction of Awolowo Road Ikoyi Lagos
https://allafrica.com/stories/200201140216.html

Construction of Abraham! Adesanya Low cost housing estate ajah.
The main Abraham Adesanya Housing Estate was commissioned on January 15, 2001, by President Bola Tinubu, then Governor of Lagos State
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2025/11/sanwo-olu-inaugurates-233-abraham-adesanya-units/

Built multiple mega Milleneum secondary Schools


Unemployment

Actually many people including me got jobs in Lagos state around that time which coincided with the boom in the financial sector of the country

Security this has already been debunked as there was a nationwide assassinations' spree sponsored by the PDP under OBJ
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:44pm On Feb 17
DissTroy:
No! This is wrong.

If a Nigerian state government requires a free trade zone, it needs the vetting and approval of the Federal Government. Just like you need the FG for any actualization of seaport dreams. Please prove me wrong.

The same Obasanjo granted Lekki FTZ, just as Onne FTZ was granted in Rivers, and Buhari granted Liberty FTZ to Akwa Ibom in 2020. Go and verify.


Thank goodness you admitted the roads were horrible under Tinubu.
Stop attributing Fashola's and Ambode's successes to Tinubu. Same way Ronaldinho helped Messi settle in as Barça's main man but Messi' successes are entirely his.

Tinubu was a terrible Governor. We have not forgotten so you guys should stop trying to paint a different picture.
After the approval of the FG for the FTZ, why are the other approved FTZ not as functional or prosperous as the Lekki FTZ? Maybe it has to do with the vision of Tinubu and the continuity and mentorship of his successors who ensured the project continued. Once again this is Tinubu in China wooing investors, F can give approval all day long, without investors it will be another sandy football pitch

Road were terrible before Tinubu and I have highlighted the various road projects under him above
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:48pm On Feb 17
DeadPresidents:
Trump is a smart, racist politician. I call him smart because he understands as a showbiz icon, how to give the people what they want.

That aside, I believe you should only allow people to be in the country that have a reason to be in it that aligns with the country’s operating principles. I feel a country can be likened to an enterprise and enterprises only hire employees that provide value and fit the culture.

The problem is that, for the supremacist viewpoint, it doesn’t matter what you do. Even if you provide value to the society, you are unable to satisfy the checkbox of fitting the culture if you’re not a white protestant originating from a pre-defined place of origin and consequently you should be dislodged from the enterprise.
The above you said in bold, if it was said by a white person would be tagged racist. That is exactly what Trump says

A country should only have people that align with its values, It is not racist for Saudi govt to say they wont allow immigrants who want to raise and eat pigs, Nor is it racist for UK to say they do not want people who believe in nailing the head of minor because they are "witches"
Afghanistan just approved a law that you can beat the shieet out of your spouse, and outlawed female education. You cannot say Germany must forcibly take someone who believes in that and want to continue practicing it
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m):
raumdeuter:
After the approval of the FG for the FTZ, why are the other approved FTZ not as functional or prosperous as the Lekki FTZ? Maybe it has to do with the vision of Tinubu and the continuity and mentorship of his successors who ensured the project continued. Once again this is Tinubu in China wooing investors, F can give approval all day long, without investors it will be another sandy football pitch

Road were terrible before Tinubu and I have highlighted the various road projects under him above
Oh! So you admit it was the FG's machinations, the same OBJ you insist truncated all developments in Lagos under Tinubu?

About FTZ. Onne FTZ s a hub which has anchored Rivers, and parts of Imo and Abia for years. You should visit.

Liberty FTZ in Akwa Ibom was officially announced in July 2021. Udom wooed BUA and others. Sterling Global Group functions there. I had to visit in late January to see what's going on. The attendant employment has multiplied by several times. You should see it yourself or research.

But even Udom CAN'T take credit for the FTZ on his own. Umo Eno has upped it with more investors and FDI. As much as I don't shill for him, I have admit it. You should Google many times the both have visited foreign countries specifically to woo investors.

Immediately power was deregulated to states, Otti has attracted investors to improve the power situatuon in Abia.

And that's the bare minimum a Governor is expected to do.

You don't see anyone attribute everyone to these Governors like you do to Tinubu.
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Yet, we can see roads Otti is building. We saw roads Udom built. We are seeing roads Umo Eno is building.

We saw roads and other capital projects by Fashola and can easily name them.

How come roads under Tinubu were so horrible?

What did Tinubu do, Raumdeuter?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 5:09pm On Feb 17
Tinubu built roads but Lagos was notorious for horrible roads under him?

Tinubu built roads but getting from one LCDA to another required you taking a stress test? It was like traveling inter-state.

Stuck on roads at midnight because everyone had to drive in a single line. Why? Well, there are 419 craters in the middle of the roads so the alternative was to drive through people's lands and compounds and these people had to put up banners to deter motorists.

Was it Ketu? Was it Abule Egba? Was it Ajah or Festac? Which roads were really functional under Tinubu?

Tinubu built public transport but Danfo and Molue were cautionary tales.

But, hey, "Tinubu built Lagos".

Thank God for the internet so those of us who know can air the truth. No more of those gatekeeping media where media platforms in his pockets like TVC, Nations, MITV and the likes who projected these half-truths and falsehoods as the true picture.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:09pm On Feb 17
DissTroy:
Oh! So you admit it was the FG's machinations, the same OBJ you insist truncated all developments in Lagos under Tinubu?

About FTZ. Onne FTZ s a hub which has anchored Rivers, and parts of Imo and Abia for years. You should visit.
Liberty FTZ in Akwa Ibom was officially announced in July 2021. Udom wooed BUA and others. Sterling Global Group functions there. I had to visit in late January to see what's going on. The attendant employment has multiplied by several times. You should see it yourself or research.
But even Udom CAN'T take credit for the FTZ on his own. Umo Eno has upped it with more investors and FDI. As much as I don't shill for him, I have admit it. You should Google many times the both have visited foreign countries specifically to woo investors.
Immediately power was deregulated to states, Otti has attracted investors to improve the power situatuon in Abia.
And that's the bare minimum a Governor is expected to do.
You don't see anyone attribute everyone to these Governors like you do to Tinubu.
----Yet, we can see roads Otti is building. We saw roads Udom build. We are seeing roads Umo Eno is building.
We saw roads and other capital projects by Fashola and can easily name them.
How come roads under Tinubu were so horrible?
What did Tinubu do, Ramdeuter?
After FG gave the license, its left to state govt to attract investors, Tinubu attracted Chinese investors Udom attracted BUA. So why cant Udom claim credit for the major investor that provided jobs and opened up his state.

In my books that is a bigger visionary than saving states money into your own personal bank and personal brewery that your successors say its worth next to nothing

I have named many roads and capital projects under Tinubu with evidence. I will report in case you didnt see the first time

raumdeuter:
So when the smear of the political violence did not stick, you wanted us to ignore it. Okay we move, we will get there gradually


Only a liar will say his eye witness is in heaven, I am provding projects and links to verify them instantly, No need to go far to verify

Capital projects:
Atlantic reclamation and Eko Atlantic,
https://www.thepointng.com/eko-atlantic-city-the-growing-politicisation-of-a-coastal-city/

Kudirat Abiola way


Ikotun-Igando road
https://allafrica.com/stories/200103010335.html

Reconstruction of Awolowo Road Ikoyi Lagos
https://allafrica.com/stories/200201140216.html

Construction of Abraham! Adesanya Low cost housing estate ajah.
The main Abraham Adesanya Housing Estate was commissioned on January 15, 2001, by President Bola Tinubu, then Governor of Lagos State
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2025/11/sanwo-olu-inaugurates-233-abraham-adesanya-units/

Built multiple mega Milleneum secondary Schools


Unemployment

Actually many people including me got jobs in Lagos state around that time which coincided with the boom in the financial sector of the country

Security this has already been debunked as there was a nationwide assassinations' spree sponsored by the PDP under OBJ
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 5:15pm On Feb 17
raumdeuter:
After FG gave the license, its left to state govt to attract investors, Tinubu attracted Chinese investors Udom attracted BUA. So why cant Udom claim credit for the major investor that provided jobs and opened up his state.

In my books that is a bigger visionary than saving states money into your own personal bank and personal brewery that your successors say its worth next to nothing

I have named many roads and capital projects under Tinubu with evidence. I will report in case you didnt see the first time
Don't deflect. Nobody has mentioned Peter Obi so far. I have deliberately avoided Obi.

Let's beam the searchlight on Tinubu whom you guys keep saying built Lagos and transformed it.
Fact by fact.

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By the way, Raum, I can post more than 50 links of OUK and Theodore Orji supposedly building roads in Abia but those on ground know it was rubbish.
Remember, the former has a newspaper and all you need do was buy airtime on AIT and NTA then with no questions asked.

Why do you think Lagos-Ibadan media was used as a slur even back then? It was because everyone knew they were laundering Tinubu's image while the reality on group painted a different picture.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:15pm On Feb 17
DissTroy:
Tinubu built roads but Lagos was notorious for horrible roads under him?

Tinubu built roads but getting from one LCDA to another required you taking a stress test?

Stuck on roads at midnight because everyone had to drive in a single line. Why? Well, there are 419 craters in the middle of the roads so the alternative was to drive through people's lands and compounds and these people had to put up banners to deter motorists.

Was it Ketu? Was it Abule Egba? Was it Ajah or Festac? Which roads were really functional under Tinubu?

Tinubu built public transport for Danfo and Molue were cautionary tales.

But, hey, "Tinubu built Lagos".
Thank God for the internet so those of us who know can air the truth. No more of those gatekeeping media where media platforms in his pockets like TVC, Nations, MITV and the likes who projected these half-truths and falsehoods as the true picture.
Here are the road and capital projects constructed under Tinubu

raumdeuter:
So when the smear of the political violence did not stick, you wanted us to ignore it. Okay we move, we will get there gradually

Only a liar will say his eye witness is in heaven, I am provding projects and links to verify them instantly, No need to go far to verify

Capital projects:
Atlantic reclamation and Eko Atlantic,
https://www.thepointng.com/eko-atlantic-city-the-growing-politicisation-of-a-coastal-city/

Kudirat Abiola way


Ikotun-Igando road
https://allafrica.com/stories/200103010335.html

Reconstruction of Awolowo Road Ikoyi Lagos
https://allafrica.com/stories/200201140216.html

Construction of Abraham! Adesanya Low cost housing estate ajah.
The main Abraham Adesanya Housing Estate was commissioned on January 15, 2001, by President Bola Tinubu, then Governor of Lagos State
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2025/11/sanwo-olu-inaugurates-233-abraham-adesanya-units/

Built multiple mega Milleneum secondary Schools
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeadPresidents: 5:17pm On Feb 17
raumdeuter:
The above you said in bold, if it was said by a white person would be tagged racist. That is exactly what Trump says

A country should only have people that align with its values, It is not racist for Saudi govt to say they wont allow immigrants who want to raise and eat pigs, Nor is it racist for UK to say they do not want people who believe in nailing the head of minor because they are "witches"
Afghanistan just approved a law that you can beat the shieet out of your spouse, and outlawed female education. You cannot say Germany must forcibly take someone who believes in that and want to continue practicing it
You will always have crazemen on the left. I have a leftist, commie-bastard friend who argues vehemently that Capitalism is to blame for Boko Haram. You will always have those.

The reason a white person may be called racist while stating the exact things i stated is because of historical context. American whites in particular, have a demonstrated history of dog-whistling, subterfuge and sub-communication when sharing seemingly innocuous ideas.

For example, after the 15th amendment gave blacks the right to vote, certain states in the South implemented the Grandfather clause that says, "If you are black, yes you can vote. Just make sure you are a land holder or your grandfather had the rights to vote as at 1867. Meanwhile, blacks only got the right to vote in 1872.

Who mad man don bite before, if e see mechanic, e go takeoff.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:23pm On Feb 17
DissTroy:
Don't deflect. Nobody has mentioned Peter Obi so far. I have deliberately avoided Obi.

Let's beam the searchlight on Tinubu whom you guys keep saying built Lagos and transformed it.
Fact by fact.

----

By the way, Raum, I can post more than 50 links of OUK and Theodore Orji supposedly building roads in Abia but those on ground know it was rubbish.
Remember, the former has a newspaper and all you need do was buy airtime on AIT and NTA then with no questions asked.

Why do you think Lagos-Ibadan media was used as a slur even back then? It was because everyone knew they were laundering Tinubu's image while the reality on group painted a different picture.
Are you saying that the projects I listed did not get done under Tinubu? List the ones that you dispute and we can find pictures of them

There are videos of commisioning, pictures and videos of projects, Newspaper articles dating back to 25yrs ago. by thisday, Allafrica news etc or you mean Tinubu and Lagos_ibadan owns all these

The millenium schools are you saying they do not exist, Kudirat Abiola way was not built so we can start clearing doubts quickly. Pick any of the projects I listed and tell me it a lie and I will post more evidence

Tinubu is the easiest governor to defend because his projects litter everywhere

Na why other governors called him the best in the class of 99 and best Governor in 4th republic till date
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:27pm On Feb 17
DeadPresidents:
You will always have crazemen on the left. I have a leftist, commie-bastard friend who argues vehemently that Capitalism is to blame for Boko Haram. You will always have those.

The reason a white person may be called racist while stating the exact things i stated is because of historical context. American whites in particular, have a demonstrated history of dog-whistling, subterfuge and sub-communication when sharing seemingly innocuous ideas.

For example, after the 15th amendment gave blacks the right to vote, certain states in the South implemented the Grandfather clause that says, "If you are black, yes you can vote. Just make sure you are a land holder or your grandfather had the rights to vote as at 1867. Meanwhile, blacks only got the right to vote in 1872.

Who mad man don bite before, if e see mechanic, e go takeoff.
That is always the scare tactics. Its like saying because some ancestor in Oyo buried kings with slaves, some ancestors in Bini has done human sacrifice before, he should never be trusted around human, or that Calabar ancestors used to kill twins thus we should never trust any Calabar man speaking about twins

The slavery was a global phenomenon that was practiced globally and still practiced in some places till today. It was actually some English and Americans that fought against the trans atlantic slavery while African kings wanted to continue the trade. All these are documented history
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 5:42pm On Feb 17
raumdeuter:
Tinubu is the easiest governor to defend because his projects litter everywhere

Na why other governors called him the best in the class of 99 and best Governor in 4th republic till date
Here's Orji Uzor Kalu being tagged the best governor of the 1999 class:
https://www.nairaland.com/7666291/orji-uzor-kalu-best-governor .

TheFlint1's uncle, Governor Monday Okpebholo, was awarded as the best governor of 2025: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2026/02/okpebholos-emergence-as-new-telegraph-governor-of-the-year-2025-in-education/ .

Just a little addition: Orji Uzor Kalu is the Publisher of The New Telegraph which awarded Monday, and The Sun.

Reminds of the image laundering role of The Nations Newspaper and TVC, right?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeadPresidents: 5:51pm On Feb 17
raumdeuter:
That is always the scare tactics. Its like saying because some ancestor in Oyo buried kings with slaves, some ancestors in Bini has done human sacrifice before, he should never be trusted around human, or that Calabar ancestors used to kill twins thus we should never trust any Calabar man speaking about twins

The slavery was a global phenomenon that was practiced globally and still practiced in some places till today. It was actually some English and Americans that fought against the trans atlantic slavery while African kings wanted to continue the trade. All these are documented history
If a decent proportion of Oyo people are still doing human sacrifice in 2026, discerning individuals would be wary keeping humans around them. Same way, you would not leave masks and a gun with a South African or a Credit Card with a Nigerian cheesy

If at least 25% of White Americans are racist, would i not be justified in being wary when they start prattling off supremacy-adjacent rhetoric?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:51pm On Feb 17
DissTroy:
Here's Orji Uzor Kalu being tagged the best governor of the 1999 class:
https://www.nairaland.com/7666291/orji-uzor-kalu-best-governor .

TheFlint1's uncle, Governor Monday Okpebholo, was awarded as the best governor of 2025: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2026/02/okpebholos-emergence-as-new-telegraph-governor-of-the-year-2025-in-education/ .

Just a little addition: Orji Uzor Kalu is the Publisher of The New Telegraph which awarded Monday, and The Sun.

Reminds of the image laundering role of The Nations Newspaper and TVC, right?
Actually it was a member of the class of 1999 who named Tinubu the best of their class. Its like your fellow classmates acknowledging you the best. Those outside might not know you well but people in the same class

“Many years have passed and people now have all of their memories entwined into one. From health to education to the economy to security, Lagos state and many other states were in turmoil as a result of years of military rule but Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu made the most progress out of all of us in reforms of various sectors, with Enugu State coming in second.


“This large progress came as a result of assembling the 23 best brains in Lagos state to examine each sector of Lagos and provide a workable solution to its unique challenges
.”
https://www.thecable.ng/chimaroke-nnamani-as-governor-tinubu-made-most-progress-compared-to-his-colleagues/
That is from the Cable abi na Tinubu owns thecable too

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:55pm On Feb 17
DeadPresidents:
If a decent proportion of Oyo people are still doing human sacrifice in 2026, discerning individuals would be wary keeping humans around them. Same way, you would not leave a gun with a South African or a Credit Card with a Nigerian cheesy

If at least 25% of White Americans are racist, would i not be justified in being wary when they start prattling off supremacy-adjacent rhetoric?
Many cultures around the world believe they are superior to others its not just white people
Have you seen how Chinese, Lebanese or Indians deal with Africans

Northern Europeans believe they are superior to Southern Europeans, Some Indians believe they are superior to other Indians based on their skin tone,
A South African believe he is superior to a Zambian, An average Nigerian believe we are superior to All other Africans, within Nigeria an average Southerner believe they are superior to Northerners. Within same ethnic groups, sef some might believe they are superior.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 6:32pm On Feb 17
raumdeuter:
Actually it was a member of the class of 1999 who named Tinubu the best of their class. Its like your fellow classmates acknowledging you the best. Those outside might not know you well but people in the same class



That is from the Cable abi na Tinubu owns thecable too
LOL. Chimaroke is Tinubu's lapdog (and only figuratively as I do not intend to refer him as a dog).

Chimaroke has released more Tinubu praise singing albums than Sony Music's entire catalogue.

The patronizing, exaggerated words of an "On Your Mandate" crooner seeking to further ingratiate himself to his buddy who is now GCFR is proof?

20 years from now, someone will reference OUK's The Telegraph Best Governor award to Monday Okpebholo as proof he was the best of the 2023/2024 set.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 6:55pm On Feb 17
DissTroy:
LOL. Chimaroke is Tinubu's lapdog (and only figuratively as I do not intend to refer him as a dog).

Chimaroke has released more Tinubu praise singing albums than Sony Music's entire catalogue.

The patronizing, exaggerated words of an "On Your Mandate" crooner seeking to further ingratiate himself to his buddy who is now GCFR is proof?

20 years from now, someone will reference OUK's The Telegraph Best Governor award to Monday Okpebholo as proof he was the best of the 2023/2024 set.
So we shouldnt believe Chimaraoke, we shouldnt believe verified projects with links and videos dating back 25yr ago

What should we believe?
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