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| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by ajalawole(m): 12:19pm On Feb 19 |
nairalanda1:show us your NEPA BILL oga stop doing like a saint. Ask those people why they don't want to share free PP meters. Some telco company like mtn are already instilling 5g network did dey ask for kobo. Why is it that everything different with electricity. In 10yrs time those guys will be the one to beg us to buy electricity.... ASO rock is fully run on solar now and in 10yrs time 70% of citizen will run on solar..whers is water corporation now. Those discos days are numbered |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by ttmax09(m): 12:23pm On Feb 19 |
nairalanda1:I'm on Band B, I just got 2 hours of light this morning since Monday midnight, the light had issues, we can't go 2 weeks without the light having issues, I recharged 5 thousand since Dec, and still have like 17 units this morning when the light was restored this morning when I went to check. When the light doesn't have issues, I get maximum 4hours, meanwhile the next street in front of mine are on Band A and they rarely take their light, so the issue is the privatisation, Gov should take over all the Discos and resell to fresh people who have funds to invest in infrastructure and also sell of TCN completely and make sure every house hold is using prepaid, then finally a strong law put in place to deter energy theft, I.E those who bypass meters and watch how everything falls into place. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by Ashalom: 12:24pm On Feb 19 |
Those estimated bills they kept inflating |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by nairalanda1(m): 12:25pm On Feb 19 |
ajalawole:On a public site? LOL. oga stop doing like a saint.Well, as a chrestian, the bible does say all chrestians are saints, so... As those people why they don't want to share free PP meters.SO, how would the meter manufacturers be paid? Y'know we make most of them in nigeria, and most of their workers are working under tinubu economy...so you want people to go hungry so that you can have free meters? I see. Some telco company like mtn are already instilling 5g network did dey ask for kobo. Why is it that everything different with electricity. In 10yrs time those guys will be the one to beg us to buy electricity.... ASO rock is fully run on solar now and in 10yrs time 70% of citizen will run on solar.Well, with a telco compnay, they 1.Are allowed to charge a cost reflective tarrif. 2.One cannot use a phone to make calls, (and after some time recieve calls), or browse on the internet without paying. The equivalent of bypassing meters for the telcos has long since been closed with the cheats being made technically impossible. Power companies 1.Until recently could not charge a cost reflective tarrif for most of their consumers 2.Even now can only do so for 20% of their consumers 3.The subsidy that is supposed to cover their losses is not being paid at all, and even the payment option offered by government is basically government telling them that their money will come in the future..haha. 4.And people use power without paying. Attempts to stop people from doing so are met with violence. So, telcos can make enough proifits and attract a lot of private money. Power companies cannot, and infact have lost investment and are even forced to sack workers because the money quite simply is not enough. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by nairalanda1(m): 12:30pm On Feb 19 |
ttmax09:All the above is because government brought in price controls on privatisation, which meant that as at 2019, power companies were losing N30 whenever they sold power (Moghalu stated that the cost refelctive tarrif then was N58, PwC put it at N80, actual price being charged was N20-30 per unit). Result is power companies, despite being private, cannot set their prices, unless government allows them, and as such cannot raise enough money to make improvements, and attract more investment. Infact, as regards distribution, three investors have been forced out or pulled out. Government is even the reason why the thing is bad. When they were in charge they essentially sold electricity at low prices, and also did nothing about power theft. Hence low money, meaning nothing significant for upgrades, plus governors connecting people to the grid over the decades who were not paying...the wreck that was handed over to discos and gencos. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by mmsen: 12:31pm On Feb 19 |
nairalanda1:You fix that problem by installing suitable meters. Instead the power companies will frustrate customers who ask for new meters, why is that? |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by mmsen: 12:32pm On Feb 19 |
nairalanda1:Privatizing public utilities has been exposed as a failed policy the world over. You can never have proper competition when it comes to utilities, there will always be geographic constraints. You are essentially granting monopolies to entities that have zero insentive to do right by their customers. It's as stupid as privatizing your military. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by dfrost: 12:32pm On Feb 19 |
For crying out loud meter everyone and go bullish on those that bypass and vandalism. These things are not hard. Let the DISCOs pay up what they owe too instead of using the money to be partying and lodging ladies at Radisson Blu for months. What's all these nonsense for? |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by nairalanda1(m): 12:34pm On Feb 19 |
mmsen:1.Because they are not making enough income to buy meters for everyone . 2.And anyway, 68% of metered consumers do bypass their meters, according to the appropriate regulator...so even if everyone was metered, it won't do much 3.Let's not forget that even if everyone was metered, and no one bypassed, and all paid, only Band A users, who account for 20% of consumers, pay a cost reflective tarrif. Everyone else doesn't. And subsidy money which should cover for the resulting losses are so inadequate, and do not even cover the resulting loss, and the government isn;t helping either. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by mmsen: 12:36pm On Feb 19 |
ttmax09:Privatizing public utilities usually ends in failure in the long term. The solution is to learn from this bad experiment, not to repeat it. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by nairalanda1(m): 12:36pm On Feb 19 |
mmsen:It also works. The trick is...privatization has to be accompanied by allowing the companies to charge a cost reflective tarrifs. You can never have proper competition when it comes to utilities, there will always be geographic constraints. You are essentially granting monopolies to entities that have zero insentive to do right by their customers.SO, how did that work for the telcos? Look, you are running away from the real problem...cost reflective tarrifs. That;s why NEPA did not work under government and is not working as a private concern. Cost reflective tarrifs. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by mmsen: 12:39pm On Feb 19 |
nairalanda1:Telcos are not constrained by geography. That's a bad comparison. I can be in Abuja or Uyo and use any one of four different telcos. I cannot choose my power company, it's a monopoly. Other countries are also finding out how disastrous it is to farm out public infrastructure to private entities. The UK is having to renationalize its rail system and there's serious discussion regarding public water because of all the harm being caused by privatization. France and Germany have also been forced to acknowledge their own failures regarding privatization. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by nairalanda1(m): 12:41pm On Feb 19 |
mmsen:Well, however a company or utility is run, you cannot charge below cost, and claim you are helping people...because unfortunately, it costs money to provide electricity, and as such power has to be sold at a profit so that the utility company can expand and build and upgrade infrastrucuture. KInd of sad, but it is what it is. Lord knows i wish it was otherwise. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by mmsen: 12:44pm On Feb 19 |
nairalanda1:A lot of countries in Asia and tte ME treat public utilities as a public necessity and don't look to make money from such services. They may even subsidize such utilities but to treat them as something that must make a profit is dangerous. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by mmsen: 12:46pm On Feb 19 |
nairalanda1:Even the people willing to pay for meters end up frustrated. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by nairalanda1(m): 12:47pm On Feb 19 |
mmsen:LOL...this is not true 1.Either they are paying for it by heavy taxation. 2.Or they are paying cost reflective tarrifs 3.Industrial countries like china and japan probably make the power equipment at home, that takes off some of the cost 4.Crucially, no one steals power there. Nigeria on the other hand relies on oil revenue from less than 2 million bpd for government revenue...for over 200 million people. That isn;t even enough for all our needs, even without corruption. Oga, better face reality. COst reflective tarrifs, or forget about good enough power supply. I am ending it here. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by nairalanda1(m): 12:47pm On Feb 19 |
mmsen:At the end, cost reflective tarrifs. Good afternoon. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by Karleb(m): 12:48pm On Feb 19 |
These people make more money than Bet9ja while providing abysmal service. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by Hamzaay(m): 12:55pm On Feb 19 |
As it is like this na 500 naira i dey load per month as we get light 3 hours a day |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by Clemss88(m): 12:55pm On Feb 19 |
The use.less people came to disconnect me today after not giving me light. I suspected something fishy when they suddenly brought light this morning |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by nairalanda1(m): 12:56pm On Feb 19 |
One for the road, as I have to go now The Nigerian power sector is bracing for another challenging year in 2026, with more debts, commercial losses, system collapse, and policy halt expected to continue as political campaigns begin ahead of the 2027 general election.SAUCE |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by Guestmale: 12:56pm On Feb 19 |
nairalanda1:Yes it is true there are some unscrupulous metered consumers bypassing meter, but where did you get your statics of 68 percent, because many meters are hung on electric pole and also many are not so hidden that can make bypass possible. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by Inspirer1: 12:58pm On Feb 19 |
Get everyone metered and stop complaining please, it should have been done aggressively since the privatisation, but they prefer the settlement and estimated billing Fraud. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by FrancisIgya: 12:59pm On Feb 19 |
How can debts of such magnitude not accumulate with outrageous monthly bills served to customers who barely survive |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by FrancisIgya: 1:01pm On Feb 19 |
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| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by nairalanda1(m): 1:02pm On Feb 19 |
Guestmale:From this guardian article (Link here) And here is the opening lines of the article... Over 68 per cent of electricity consumers in Nigeria are illegally bypassing their prepaid meters and consuming power without payment, the Nigerian Independent System Operator (NISO) has revealed. This disclosure came yesterday in Abuja during the fifth annual conference of the Power Correspondents Association of Nigeria (PCAN), where stakeholders in the power sector called for a balanced electricity tariff that would protect consumers while ensuring commercial viability for operators. The revelation adds a new layer to Nigeria’s worsening power sector liquidity crisis, as utilities already struggling with poor revenue collection now face widespread energy theft. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by sirblend: 1:04pm On Feb 19 |
nairalanda1:There's no concrete evidence that suggests 68% of consumers bypass their meters. Yes I know some consumers by pass their meters but no reasonable humans would believe that 6.8/7 out of 10 or 68 out of 100 consumers by pass their electric meters. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by nairalanda1(m): 1:07pm On Feb 19 |
sirblend:Ah the usual...'they are lying' response. Okay, I've posted it here before, but here we go again 68% of metered consumers bypass their meters. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by nairalanda1(m): 1:10pm On Feb 19 |
boxypane:Well, it works for telcos, most people trading in markets, banks, and a host of businesses, even people hawking stuff. And all of them have one thing in common...cost reflective tarrifs or the right to set their prices. The power sector hasn't had that right to do so...that;s why their service is awful. And the government is the one imposing that on them...that;'s why your government is ultimately responsible. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by nairalanda1(m): 1:10pm On Feb 19 |
Starcrest1:Well, if you ran a business where government forced you to sell below your production and other costs...people would say your service is bad , you know. |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by fineboynl(m): 1:11pm On Feb 19 |
nairalanda1:which electricity bill.? The over estimated bill?. Them them provide meter to every household and business district |
| Re: Unpaid Electricity Bills Now N6tn – Gencos by nairalanda1(m): 1:14pm On Feb 19 |
fineboynl:1. Many discos have a situation where a significant propotion of their consumers do not pay for the power they use...so they ripoff consumers who do pay through estimated billing and overcharging because if they don;t , their losses would be worse than it already is 2.Metering does not work in that regard as you would want it to because 1) 68% of already metered consumers bypass the meter 2) and even if everyone was metered and paying and not bypassing, only 20% of consumers pay a cost reflective tarrif. |
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