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Trump seems to forget that he's leading a country with strong institutions

LagosOrigin:
Trump is the president, whatever he says is the law and final.

The president doesn't make laws.

Cyberterror:
I am more concerned about the Supreme Court verdict on citizenship by Birth that the Trump administration is arguing against. If the court sides with Trump, it means people like Davido, Banky W and others born in the US will lose their American citizenship.

The law will not apply retroactively.

bisiki2:
The law will not apply retroactively.

The importers would sue and win some compensation.

tctrills:
Funny guy, you talk as if Trump will pay the money from his pocket.

But he will. Though I'm certain you think payment must be in dollars, when it will in fact be a loss of votes for his party in November.

Melezenawii:
No wonder you support Peter Obi

You offend me!

The individual you responded to is not Obidient, I hope. He definitely hasn't a clue of what he speaks of.

Cyberterror:
I am more concerned about the Supreme Court verdict on citizenship by Birth that the Trump administration is arguing against. If the court sides with Trump, it means people like Davido, Banky W and others born in the US will lose their American citizenship.

That is not how America law work. By your logic, Trump himself will lose his citizenship as he was the son of an immigrant. If the Supreme court rule in Trump administration favor. It will take effect from the day the judgement was rendered or the day Trump executive order or pronouncement was made. It will not be retroactive. Unlike the Trump Tariff there was a prior supreme precedent on the citizenship question. The supreme court can reverse the previous decision by interpreting the law differently but they can not strip citizenship from those who benefit from prior interpretation.

KingOfAmebo:
Most Trump lapdogs here on nairaland are in deep ignorance, some are educated but embrace ignorance...IT IS THE AMERICAN IMPORTERS THAT PAY THE TARRIFFS THAT TRUMP IMPOSES ON OTHER COUNTRIES but Trump's supporters thinks it is the other countries that bleeds.

It is useless arguing with someone that doesn't match the least level of your intelligence.

How they think importers pay tariffs is beyond me.

It's like they think a Nigerian will buy tokunbo from Belgium and not charge retail for all costs involved plus profit.

He must refund o.. Big bully

FreeStuffsNG:
“The president asserts the extraordinary power to unilaterally impose tariffs of unlimited amount, duration, and scope,” Roberts wrote for the court. “In light of the breadth, history, and constitutional context of that asserted authority, he must identify clear congressional authorization to exercise it.”

The issue of refunds has loomed large over the case, with Trump administration officials saying that potential repayments could have devastating consequences for the US economy.

He forcefully collected people's money using an illegal order and now he is blackmailing them that if he refunds their money, US economy will collapse.
Ṣọrọ niyen? Smh.

He will be told "Oga Ade, return people's money joor."

It's about time that rhe Supreme Court starts to stand up to the fat orange PDF convicted felon.
They ha e allowed him to get away with too.much crimes already. Now they are also suffering the consequences of their actions.

anonimi:
How is Trump not an ally of our president?

If they are not allies, why would he allow him violate our sovereignty, killing innocent northerners under the guise of looking for Muslim terrorists committing Christian genocide

Just make sure you don't ever complain of terrorists activities in the north again even when muslims are also affected especially.

budaatum:
But he will. Though I'm certain you think payment must be in dollars, when it will in fact be a loss of votes for his party in November.

Lol, I am no politicians and I don't know tomorrow but I can bet you never expected him to win in 2024 so I am not surprised you still expect him to lose.
Anyway, I'm US politics, the party in power almost always loses the midterm so it's no big deal if it happens to Trump.

LLMG:
Just make sure you don't ever complain of terrorists activities in the north again even when muslims are also affected especially.

Why was insecurity not so bad in PDP’s era, to the point of inviting America 🇺🇸 to invade the country

anonimi:
Why was insecurity not so bad in PDP’s era, to the point of inviting America 🇺🇸 to invade the country

Because they were capable and willing to cub it, but the buhari and muslim muslim ticket are only interested in aiding it.

RichBoy247:
Tinubu has said it doesn’t concern him any nonsense the child rapists in America are doing.

Child rapist?? Has he raped ur daughter before??

LagosOrigin:
Trump is the president, whatever he says is the law and final.

Ozuo you think usa is nigeria. Stock market has already started to renounce immediately after this ruling

SmartPolician:
Trump seems to forget that he's leading a country with strong institutions

Strong instututions on paper.

That is a big fat lie that they have strong instututions. Do not let low self esteem and ignorance ruin your reasoning.


This same US Supreme Court has been granting all his requests , even bizzare ones, until now that his actions cost monumental destruction of businesses.

He abandoned the whole US diplomatic bureau being paid billions as salaries while he uses his business associate and son-in-law as subsituute for a whole machinery of government.

His ICE was left in the hands of unqualified personnel until two US citzens were murdered in broad daylight before he called in a career civil servant to handle it.

Even his congress and Senate are lameduck. So lameduck that they will not challenge him for taking over their functions.

He brought down a historically significant building to build a ball room yet nobody challenged him. Esptein scandal is already leading to arrest in Europe whereas in US where most of the crime is committed, no single instutution has arrested anyone so far because US has weak institutions.

Where democracy is practised. Can Kekerekun and Co dared Tinubu and give right judgement?

For a system to work, you good leadership and institution. The hypocrisy in all these is that those who support lawlessness and tyranny in this country will come here to praise the decision of the Supreme Court.

tctrills:
Lol, I am no politicians and I don't know tomorrow but I can bet you never expected him to win in 2024 so I am not surprised you still expect him to lose.
Anyway, I'm US politics, the party in power almost always loses the midterm so it's no big deal if it happens to Trump.

Actually, I wasn't surprised he won, as I never felt Americans would vote for Kamala considering the misogyny and racism prevalent there, and the fact she started campaigning like 100 days before the elections and not 2 years before, which might have given her a chance.

The big deal for dump losing the mid terms, and I'm hoping both houses, is it would tie his hands behind his back so he can't do much of the nonsense he's been doing.

Trust me, I can't wait for him to be lame ducked.

J

budaatum:
Actually, I wasn't surprised he won, as I never felt Americans would vote for Kamala considering the misogyny and racism prevalent there, and the fact she started campaigning like 100 days before the elections and not 2 years before, which might have given her a chance.

The big deal for dump losing the mid terms, and I'm hoping both houses, is it would tie his hands behind his back so he can't do much of the nonsense he's been doing.

Trust me, I can't wait for him to be lame ducked.

Wait, you call Americans racist?
Are Americans more racist than Nigerians are tribalistic?
Again, the same Americans that voted for Obama twice?
Let's get serious please.
I know you can't wait but in the last 90 years, the president's party has only won the midterm 3 times so again it's no big deal.
That was why he signed the Big Beautiful bill when he could.
Lastly, can you mention one thing that you think will change if the Dems take over the house and senate?

Note that with the exception of the Big Beautiful bill, Trump did not need the house or senate for every other act or policy he carried out.
One more thing, I can assure you that his team are looking into all loopholes to restore tariffs and there is almost always a loophole in the law

Cyberterror:
I am more concerned about the Supreme Court verdict on citizenship by Birth that the Trump administration is arguing against. If the court sides with Trump, it means people like Davido, Banky W and others born in the US will lose their American citizenship.

If one of your parent is a citizen, then it has no consequences on you. But if non of them is a citizen, trump go Tear their passports

LagosOrigin:
Trump is the president, whatever he says is the law and final.

This is not military it's democracy

In democracy president is not above the law and the court judgement..he has to obey the court judgement..or he will be charged for contempt of court

A country where the institutions ,court are strong and independent.

This can't happen in Nigeria our courts are weak and influenced and controlled by the federal government

Flangelo12:
The importers would sue and win some compensation.

I was referring to the law on citizenship by birth.

bisiki2:
I was referring to the law on citizenship by birth.

OK.

Cyberterror:
I am more concerned about the Supreme Court verdict on citizenship by Birth that the Trump administration is arguing against. If the court sides with Trump, it means people like Davido, Banky W and others born in the US will lose their American citizenship.

They won't lose anything. Law is hardly done retrospectively. The law cannot be applied to those who are already citizens by birth.

budaatum:
Actually, I wasn't surprised he won, as I never felt Americans would vote for Kamala considering the misogyny and racism prevalent there, and the fact she started campaigning like 100 days before the elections and not 2 years before, which might have given her a chance.

The big deal for dump losing the mid terms, and I'm hoping both houses, is it would tie his hands behind his back so he can't do much of the nonsense he's been doing.

Trust me, I can't wait for him to be lame ducked.

Bro Trump just increased tariffs on all countries, hope you are following?
How do you think this will impact the midterms?

tctrills:
Bro Trump just increased tariffs on all countries, hope you are following?
How do you think this will impact the midterms?

I am only just reading it now you told me and I went to search and find it was true, and as I write I'm smiling.

Let's forget midterms please, it's not till November after all, and think what impact tariffs have on consumers. Will Americans vote to pay for inflation?

Will you import tokunboh to Nigeria, pay custom, tariffs, etc, and not make customer pay plus profit?

Emphasis on the consequence, below is why I smile. Ruefully.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7255316/

Why does output fall after tariffs?

Furceri et al. (2019) explore some plausible explanations. The wasteful effects of protectionism eventually lead to a substantial reduction in the efficiency with which labor is used, leading to a decline of about 0.9% of labor productivity after five years. Tariffs also lead to a small and marginally-significant increase in unemployment. Both of these effects plausibly lead to a reduction in output. In addition, using industry-level data, Furceri et al. (2019) show that the negative effect of tariffs seems to arise from an increase in the cost of (imported) inputs owing to tariffs. In our companion paper (Furceri et al., 2019), we also find that higher tariffs lead to an appreciation of the real exchange rate and the net effect on the trade balance is small and insignificant.

Cyberterror:
I am more concerned about the Supreme Court verdict on citizenship by Birth that the Trump administration is arguing against. If the court sides with Trump, it means people like Davido, Banky W and others born in the US will lose their American citizenship.

That's not going to happen...