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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 1:20am On Feb 21
hamzeiy:
What's the update....
well, now that the israeli media just released it minutes ago

the us sent a notification to a number of countries about the timing of the attack
not so much the exact minute, but the window

persia knows about it




the israelis are leaking it to try to prevent another last-minute cancelation

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 1:30am On Feb 21
LordAdam16:
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how dumb do you have to be to not know the difference between peer and near-pear
even if you don't have access to the internet, ask any human above the age of 10 and they'll tell you

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-Lord
How halfwitted can you be to call Iran a near peer power to the US military
Common bro
You're obviously smart, it just doesn't show when you type
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 1:39am On Feb 21
LordAdam16:
they keep thinking everyone will confront them on their terms

they walked into afghanistan thinking the taliban will confront them with tanks and an air force
air force ke
who dash monkey banana?




the us has not fought a foe like iran since maybe korea
that's 70 years ago

vietnam wishes it had a proxy network that could set all of asia on fire if attacked
saddam wishes he could shut down 20% of global oil flow
afghanistan wishes it could hit any point in the middle east with hypersonics




in 1991, before desert storm, saddam sent most of his airforce to iran to avoid being destroyed by us coalition forces
iran did not return them before the 2003 invasion
they returned them after they'd made iraq a vassal and it was time to confront isis

let me repeat that, saddam deliberately dispatched his air force to a neighboring country to avoid destruction
he had no satellites, virtually no AWACS platform
he did not know where the us was going to attack from
which planes they'd use
and he had no means to attack any us base

he and his entire military were sitting ducks
and the us still had to bribe the generals to stand down to avoid a war of attrition

that is the archetype of war between a great power and an inferior foe
even the foe knows all hope is lost




in venezuela, the us parked the ford within 300 miles of venezuela
they shut down venezuelan airspace and conducted hundreds of flight over venezuela weekly
and nearly all of the us carriers were at home merely hundreds of miles away except the lincoln that was patrolling the south china sea at the time

these 🀑🀑 sent the lincoln carrier to the persian gulf then withdrew it to the indian ocean
more than 1000 miles away so that it would be out of iran's short range missiles
and then the politicos decided to send the HW Bush to join the lincoln
but the pentagon vetoed it
the HW Bush is still near the us

instead they're sending the ford to israel for defense

that only happens with a peer or near-peer power

the lincoln is alone with its 3 destroyers at the mercy of admiral irani

10 hypersonics and a drone swarm and it's goodbye to 5000 sailors
the pentagon knows this
but they can't withdraw it because they're already committed
and they hope that if their plan a works in suppressing the iranians, then they wouldn't have to worry
still, they definitely are not sending more on definite suicide mission




against iraq, afghanistan, vietnam they were bringing troops and assets closer
against iran, they're keeping the bulk of them at least 1000 miles away

you do that only against peer and near-peer powers




for those in the back
the us has two unarguable peers
russia, china. india is an arguable peer. maybe even france, but the strategic depth of france is sus.

the near-peer category is where you find the likes of iran, germany, uk, italy, turkey, japan, south korea, pakistan
none of them can fight that far away from home
but on their home turf, anyone who comes will be bloodied
anyone




there is a reason why i am saying iran should go all out from day 1 and not adopt proportionality
it should not look at the ukraine war and try some type of smo

that does not play to their advantages
total war is the only play here
use every card

worse case scenario, a million people die
that would die anyway in the chaos that'd follow a regime collapse
but as in vietnam, afghanistan
go all out, sustain the damage, and there'll be no new wars for half a century

-Lord
Well said. I don't blame him entirely though. It sure sounds absurd to call Iran a near-peer of USA if you don't understand the technicalities of the word. I think it was last year or so that I first saw someone categorize Iran that way in relation to the USA. It didn't make sense until he explained it in almost the same way you've just done. Conventionally speaking, USA is miles and miles ahead of Iran.

But Iran's vast assymetric capabilities and regional dominance makes it a near-peer, no matter how wrong that sounds to your ear.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 1:47am On Feb 21
usmanpogo:
How halfwitted can you be to call Iran a near peer power to the US military
Common bro
You're obviously smart, it just doesn't show when you type
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i did not force you to embarrass yourself so thoroughly

a grown man can't tell the difference between peer and non-peer

and he wanted to argue
wonders!

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-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 2:02am On Feb 21
usmanpogo:
The Iranians must be immortals πŸ˜‚
No one says that

The point is the one that wants to rules the earth by force is the evil one and is the one that will cry more when they see they can't rule the world by force

I wish Israel would stay out of this let USA be bold let see if it ready to rip in it quest for world domination
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 2:03am On Feb 21
FoolishBoy419:
Well said. I don't blame him entirely though. It sure sounds absurd to call Iran a near-peer of USA if you don't understand the technicalities of the word. I think it was last year or so that I first saw someone categorize Iran that way in relation to the USA. It didn't make sense until he explained it in almost the same way you've just done. Conventionally speaking, USA is miles and miles ahead of Iran.

But Iran's vast assymetric capabilities and regional dominance makes it a near-peer, no matter how wrong that sounds to your ear.
Its not just absurd but also an aberation, what technicalities are you talking about bearing in mind any conflict between the US and Iran won't go beyond the Western Asia !!!
The Russians and the Chinese are the only adversaries that can take any conflicts to the US home soil.

Any full scale conflicts between Iran and the US would be felt even in a city like Yadz ( one of the most remote cities in Iran ) and civilians would be the one to pay the price.
The US obviously cherry picks it's conflicts and never picks to face off with near peer adversaries that can attack mainland US, sadly Iran is not one.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 2:03am On Feb 21
LordAdam16:
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i did not force you to embarrass yourself so thoroughly

a grown man can't tell the difference between peer and non-peer

and he wanted to argue
wonders!

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-Lord
Bro I can only explain it to you, I can't understand it for you πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 2:04am On Feb 21
axios is now reporting that the us is willing to consider/accept iran retaining "token" enrichment

the story is that in public they're still pushing a zero enrichment demand
but in private they'd accept limited enrichment which iran has offered since last year




f*ck 'em
this train has no brakes

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 2:06am On Feb 21
Kingsnairaland:
No one says that

The point is the one that wants to rules the earth by force is the evil one and is the one that will cry more when they see they can't rule the world by force

I wish Israel would stay out of this let USA be bold let see if it ready to rip in it quest for world domination
There's no separating the two, they go hand in hand like husband and wife. πŸ˜‚
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 2:06am On Feb 21
usmanpogo:
Its not just absurd but also an aberation, what technicalities are you talking about bearing in mind any conflict between the US and Iran won't go beyond the Western Asia !!!
The Russians and the Chinese are the only adversaries that can take any conflicts to the US home soil.

Any full scale conflicts between Iran and the US would be felt even in a city like Yadz ( one of the most remote cities in Iran ) and civilians would be the one to pay the price.
The US obviously cherry picks it's conflicts and never picks to face off with near peer adversaries that can attack mainland US, sadly Iran is not one.
You don't know history

No one could take war to France when napoleon was the top dog it was after napoleon kept losing away wars that France was eventually hit

The more USA loses away like in Afghanistan Iran in the future then soon it will be hit at home it just a matter of time
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 2:09am On Feb 21
usmanpogo:
Its not just absurd but also an aberation, what technicalities are you talking about bearing in mind any conflict between the US and Iran won't go beyond the Western Asia !!!
The Russians and the Chinese are the only adversaries that can take any conflicts to the US home soil.

Any full scale conflicts between Iran and the US would be felt even in a city like Yadz ( one of the most remote cities in Iran ) and civilians would be the one to pay the price.
The US obviously cherry picks it's conflicts and never picks to face off with near peer adversaries that can attack mainland US, sadly Iran is not one.
"... no matter how wrong that sounds to your ear."
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 2:12am On Feb 21
FoolishBoy419:
"... no matter how wrong that sounds to your ear."
I'm certain you can give it a better rebuttal πŸ˜‚
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 2:29am On Feb 21
Kingsnairaland:
You don't know history

No one could take war to France when napoleon was the top dog it was after napoleon kept losing away wars that France was eventually hit

The more USA loses away like in Afghanistan Iran in the future then soon it will be hit at home it just a matter of time
I don't know what books you have read but the British imposed a naval blockade and even occupied several French ports during the height of Napoleon's reign, that was 1803 or so and your Napoleon lost his first battle in 1815.
😊
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 3:23am On Feb 21
usmanpogo:
I'm certain you can give it a better rebuttal πŸ˜‚
I believe this should be simple enough. Near-peer does not mean they are nearly equally powerful. It means one has the means to seriously challenge or defeat a superior army in a regional war. USA remains several times more powerful than Iran but by definition, Iran is its near-peer

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 3:36am On Feb 21
FoolishBoy419:
I believe this should be simple enough. Near-peer does not mean they are nearly equally powerful. It means one has the means to seriously challenge or defeat a superior army in a regional war. USA remains several times more powerful than Iran but by definition, Iran is its near-peer
It's a region challenger, at Best you can call it "near peer without a peer " because they are secondary threats in most cases.

Goodnight 😊😊😊

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 3:50am On Feb 21
Iran is near peer to the US, The same Iran that Israel a small "dot" in the region was bombing for fun for 12days killings high ranking officials for sport!!

A country is moving military assets all the way from different parts of the world and concentrating them in a particular region.. and Iran's biggest play is hit neighbouring military bases and Israel?? Not even taking the fight against the US itself! A country which can not project military power beyond her region is now considered a near peer to the most powerful nation on earth!!


No matter the Nato funding, there's no universe where Ukraine becomes a near peer to Russia, the Russian military funding dwarfs NATO's supports to Ukraine, Russia military industry is ten times bigger Ukraine.. Russia also a major stakeholder in the defense industry.. Which indices are we going to use to make Ukraine a near peer to Russia?? Other than the aged old propaganda Russia is fighting NATO in Ukraine!! Clown if Russia is fighting NATO's.. trust me there will be vast amount of Russia lands currently in control of allied forces!!
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 4:00am On Feb 21
Obedience40:
Iran is near peer to the US, The same Iran that Israel a small "dot" in the region was bombing for fun for 12days killings high ranking officials for sport!!

A country is moving military assets all the way from different parts of the world and concentrating them in a particular region.. and Iran's biggest play is hit neighbouring military bases and Israel?? Not even taking the fight against the US itself! A country which can not project military power beyond her region is now considered a near peer to the most powerful nation on earth!!


No matter the Nato funding, there's no universe where Ukraine becomes a near peer to Russia, the Russian military funding dwarfs NATO's supports to Ukraine, Russia military industry is ten times bigger Ukraine.. Russia also a major stakeholder in the defense industry.. Which indices are we going to use to make Ukraine a near peer to Russia?? Other than the aged old propaganda Russia is fighting NATO in Ukraine!! Clown if Russia is fighting NATO's.. trust me there will be vast amount of Russia lands currently in control of allied forces!!
Finally, someone with working brains
I have never seen someone type so much words with little meaning like my good friend Lord πŸ˜‚
Mi amigo esta loca
Its really comical bro πŸ˜‚
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 4:02am On Feb 21
usmanpogo:
In what realities are the Iranians and the US near-peer powers
This is the most comical thing I've read all day. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

Dial it down guys πŸ˜‚
The same clown gave the US and her forces in the Pacific mere hours in a potential conflict against China, imagine Countries like Japan and South Korea two technological advanced militaries with robust economic tentacles would be destroyed in hours against a Chinese military that can't even muster the balls to take tiny Taiwan

Then he wakes up and calls Iran a country's whose entire airspace was breached by a smaller country like israel who were conducting military raids inside iran for fun


Thread has become a comic relief for stress.. dude has become an embarrassment.. running amok the thread scribbling fictional stories
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 4:12am On Feb 21
FoolishBoy419:
Well said. I don't blame him entirely though. It sure sounds absurd to call Iran a near-peer of USA if you don't understand the technicalities of the word. I think it was last year or so that I first saw someone categorize Iran that way in relation to the USA. It didn't make sense until he explained it in almost the same way you've just done. Conventionally speaking, USA is miles and miles ahead of Iran.

But Iran's vast assymetric capabilities and regional dominance makes it a near-peer, no matter how wrong that sounds to your ear.
strip away all the technical accoutrements

he claims there are only 3 near-peer powers
russia, china, and india

he struggles with english
but that means the us has no peer power

in 2026, anyone saying the us has no peer power is unwell!

that is why i'm not entertaining his bs

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 4:13am On Feb 21
Obedience40:
The same clown gave the US and her forces in the Pacific mere hours in a potential conflict against China, imagine Countries like Japan and South Korea two technological advanced militaries with robust economic tentacles would be destroyed in hours against a Chinese military that can't even muster the balls to take tiny Taiwan

Then he wakes up and calls Iran a country's whose entire airspace was breached by a smaller country like israel who were conducting military raids inside iran for fun


Thread has become a comic relief for stress.. dude has become an embarrassment.. running amok the thread scribbling fictional stories
Well, I think he's giving the people what they want, the people want fiction and he's able to conjure them from several unparalleled realities πŸ˜‚

One thing is certain, both countries don't want war but according to our ayatollahs, the war started since last two weeks πŸ˜‚
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 4:14am On Feb 21
usmanpogo:
Bro I can only explain it to you, I can't understand it for you πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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mr, you need to go buy brighter grammar

so you may understand the difference between peer and near-peer like a kid in elementary school

anything beyond that will make your head hurt

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 4:16am On Feb 21
LordAdam16:
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mr, you need to go buy brighter grammar

so you may understand the difference between peer and near-peer like a kid in elementary school

anything beyond that will make your head hurt

-Lord
You obviously type faster than you think, I'm certain those two neurons would catch up in a few years πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚
Keep it up
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Nobody: 4:48am On Feb 21
usmanpogo:
Finally, someone with working brains
I have never seen someone type so much words with little meaning like my good friend Lord πŸ˜‚
Mi amigo esta loca
Its really comical bro πŸ˜‚
Our friend thinks it is by writing garbage upon garbage. 🀣
Na their type dey collect extra sheet for exam still score 39 over 100. All the while, they will be making the real intelligent students doubt their own intelligence. 🀣
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Nobody: 4:52am On Feb 21
Obedience40:
No matter the Nato funding, there's no universe where Ukraine becomes a near peer to Russia, the Russian military funding dwarfs NATO's supports to Ukraine, Russia military industry is ten times bigger Ukraine.. Russia also a major stakeholder in the defense industry.. Which indices are we going to use to make Ukraine a near peer to Russia?? Other than the aged old propaganda Russia is fighting NATO in Ukraine!! Clown if Russia is fighting NATO's.. trust me there will be vast amount of Russia lands currently in control of allied forces!!
But Copy and paste NG said US alone has given Ukraine ober 350 billion dollars....
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 4:54am On Feb 21
usmanpogo:
Like I said, a simple Google search would have spared you the embarrassment.
There's obviously no end to your intellectual limitations πŸ˜‚
Hey!!!! Have mercy πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Nobody: 4:55am On Feb 21
Kingsnairaland:
You don't know history

No one could take war to France when napoleon was the top dog it was after napoleon kept losing away wars that France was eventually hit

The more USA loses away like in Afghanistan Iran in the future then soon it will be hit at home it just a matter of time
The temerity, effrontery and audacity of this one to open his mouth to say someone does not know history never cease to amaze me. When the award of the dullest kakapo belongs to you.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Nobody: 4:56am On Feb 21
Kingsnairaland:
No one says that

The point is the one that wants to rules the earth by force is the evil one and is the one that will cry more when they see they can't rule the world by force

I wish Israel would stay out of this let USA be bold let see if it ready to rip in it quest for world domination
Wait first, Let's begin with your definition of "evil" I am willing to learn something.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 4:58am On Feb 21
usmanpogo:
How halfwitted can you be to call Iran a near peer power to the US military
Common bro
You're obviously smart, it just doesn't show when you type
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He's one of the brightest brains around here when he doesn't let sentiments get in the way. Just that sometimes he wants you to believe what he wished were true even if they're really not. Lord Adam knows what he's doing, very funny dude 🀣🀣.
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