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There's a big difference between Grace and Works and I believe the op is a bit ignorant of both

Michael547:
1)So you're saying that a time will come that humans would not be in Heaven and earth and that it is only God that knows where they will be?

2)So are you saying that God will destroy all the heavens and create all the heavens again?

3)Who will be on the new earth?

2 Peter 3:13
"Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells."
Revelation 21:1
"Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea."
The new heaven and earth both refers to the kingdom of God where the saints will dwell in. The rest of the unsaved sinners will be in hell.

sonmvayina:
it is Gods spirit that is inside each of us, the body that was made with dust is just a suit. just like NASA astronaut need a special suit to adapt to conditions in space, we need this body to adapt to conditions in this earth. it is not who we are, we are the Gods spirit dwelling inside of it...and that God spirit is the same image and likeness as God just as the body is same image and likeness as the earth....

we are all Gods spirit having or experiencing a human life.

you understand now? see psalm 104:29-31

Psalms 104:30
[30]You send forth Your Spirit, they are created; And You renew the face of the earth.
This means God sends the Holy Spirit to the saints who believe in the gospel of the water and the Spirit, enabling them to proclaim this gospel to the whole world and thereby renewing them as children of God.
John 15:26
“But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me.

God created us and breathe the spirit of life into us and we became living beings. It does not in any way mean that God disintegrated His Entity into many little spirits. He created our own spirits individually. He didnt disintegrate Himself. Stop spewing nonsense from your thoughts please.

THE COMPLETE DELIVERANCE FROM ALL
SINS

What do we have to do to be completely
sanctified? We have to believe in the
redemption of the water and the Spirit.

Romans 8:1-2 says, “There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.” This tells us
that God made all sinners righteous and delivered all who came to Jesus from the law of sin and death.

The Bible tells us about complete redemption in Hebrews 9:12. “Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once and for all, having obtained eternal redemption.” This means that we who believe in Jesus are redeemed and admitted into Heaven. We heard and believed the gospel of the redemption of the water and the Spirit in Christ Jesus and were forgiven for all our sins. But sinners who believe that they were only forgiven for original sin cannot truly be saved. In order to be sanctified for sins that they commit after they come to believe in Jesus, they feel that they should repent every day.

Their misguided faith leads them to hell. Their
mistaken beliefs cause them to repent every day so as to free themselves from all their iniquities. That is not the true faith that saves us from hell. If they had believed in Jesus and been redeemed once for all time, they would have become righteous andchildren of God. True redemption makes believers righteous and transforms them into children of God once and for all. Even though believers are delivered from all the sins of the world, their flesh does not change until the day they die. But their hearts are soaked with the righteousness of God. We must never misunderstand this fact. The Bible tells us that we are sanctified and become righteous when we believe in the gospel.

Let’s look at Hebrews 10:9-14 to see the true gospel. “Then He said, ‘Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God.’ He takes away the first that He may establish the second. By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.” “By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all” Note that this is written in the present perfect tense and not in the future tense. To be completely sanctified, all of us have to believe in the redemption of the water and the Spirit that Jesus gave us.

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estheragha:
Psalms 104:30
[30]You send forth Your Spirit, they are created; And You renew the face of the earth.
This means God sends the Holy Spirit to the saints who believe in the gospel of the water and the Spirit, enabling them to proclaim this gospel to the whole world and thereby renewing them as children of God.
John 15:26
“But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me.

God created us and breathe the spirit of life into us and we became living beings. It does not in any way mean that God disintegrated His Entity into many little spirits. He created our own spirits individually. He didnt disintegrate Himself. Stop spewing nonsense from your thoughts please.

you are suffering from cognitive disonance.
it says "send forth your spirit and they are CREATED, that is human are created and replenish the earth. Take it and they die and return to dust, why did you take only one verse. see also Ecclesiastes 12:7....

Kobojunkie:
There is no history to back the claim that the Torah was written by Ezra. The Epic of Gilgamesh does not depict any of what you claim. 🥱🥱

Stop confidently spitting what are obvious lies. 🥱🥱

The Torah is still about the two brothers, Jacob(Enki) and Esau(Enlil).
who said anything about the epic of Gilgimesh?
it was written by Ezra on the other of king Cyrus the great. king of persia and later king of Babylon. Ezra was very vast in God's laws, he was asked to write it and take it along to teach his people as they continue to rebuild the temple.

sonmvayina:
The Torah is still about the two brothers, Jacob(Enki) and Esau(Enlil).
who said anything about the epic of Gilgimesh?
it was written by Ezra on the other of king Cyrus the great. king of persia and later king of Babylon. Ezra was very vast in God's laws, he was asked to write it and take it along to teach his people as they continue to rebuild the temple.

What level of gobbledegook-ry is this? 🥱🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
What level of gobbledegook-ry is this? 🥱🥱🥱

You are neither here nor there. What's your religious belief and what denomination of Christianity are you practicing KOBO

sonmvayina:
you are suffering from cognitive disonance.
it says "send forth your spirit and they are CREATED, that is human are created and replenish the earth. Take it and they die and return to dust, why did you take only one verse. see also Ecclesiastes 12:7....

What you are implying is that God disintegrated His Being into many spirit to form mankind. That is spewing nonsense.

Ecclesiastes 12:7
"Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.

God individually created both the spirit of man and the body in which our spirit dwells in. God didnt disintegrate His Entity. Once again that is utter rubbish and a fallacious doctrine emanating from Satan who wishes to deceive mankind into thinking that they are equal to God.

If man is actually God, Satan wouldnt bother to try to deceive man into wanting to become like God by lying to them in Genesis 3:5
"For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” Even now, this deception of Satan continues to which you have fallen for.

The Bible says in Exodus 8:10,
“Let it be according to your word, that you may know that there is no one like the Lord our God.

JESUS GRANTED ETERNAL REDEMPTION ONCE AND FOR ALL

Why is a man entitled to rejoice all the time? (1 Thessalonians 5:16) Because Jesus took away all his sins, he cannot but become humble before Him and thankful for His Grace.

If we believe in the eternal redemption of Jesus, we become righteous all at once. The Bible says, “Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, in everything give thanks” (1 Thessalonians 5:16-18). Rejoice always. How can we rejoice all the time? Those who receive eternal redemption once for all time can endlessly rejoice because they are free of sin. They are safe in the knowledge that Jesus took away all their sins at the Jordan. They become humble before Him and thankful for His grace and can thus rejoice without ceasing. “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered” (Romans 4:7). This
doesn’t mean that our sins are covered despite the fact they still exist in our heart. Our heart has been cleansed. Jesus completely washed away all our sins and saved us once for all time.

This eternal redemption is referred to in the New Testament. When Jesus was baptized, He said, “Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness” (Matthew 3:15). Just as goats or sheep took away people’s sins through the laying on of hands in the Old Testament, Jesus took on all the sins of the world and purified humankind in the most proper and fitting way. “It is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness,” said Jesus. Jesus was baptized in the most proper way and took on to Himself all the sins of humankind, thus saving us. In Matthew 3:15, it is written that Jesus took away all the sins of the world. God’s justice was complete. We should not try to understand this eternal redemption. We should take it as His word of deliverance. “Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered” (Psalms 32:1).

All the sins of the heart and flesh, Jesus washed them away when He was baptized by John the Baptist at the Jordan River. He was judged for the sins we commit in this corrupt and depraved world. After He took away all our sins, He died on the Cross. Anyone who believes in this redemption of sin can become righteous and without blemish once and for all. Because Jesus lives eternally, anyone who believes in redemption in Christ remains righteous.

We can now stand before God with confidence and say, “How are You, Lord? I believe in Your one begotten Son, Jesus Christ and I am also Your son. Thank You, Father. Thank You for accepting me as Your child. This is not through my works, but only through my faith in being born again of water and the Spirit in Jesus. You saved me from all the sins of this world. I believe what You said, ‘For thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness’ (Matthew 3:15). Through the baptism of Jesus and His Cross, I have become Your child. For that I am grateful to You.” Have you passed all your sins on to Jesus? Were all your sins taken away by Him? The Bible tells us that thanks to the baptism of Jesus and His death on the Cross, sinners can become sanctified just by believing in them.

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BAILMONEY:
You are neither here nor there. What's your religious belief and what denomination of Christianity are you practicing KOBO

Have you, in fact read the Quran yet? Or are you just content with living as yet another brainwashed human driven and controlled by religion/cult? 😩😩😩

Anyways, for the umpteenth time, I have no religion and hence no need for any of the gobbledegook-ry of it. 🥱🥱🥱

estheragha:
2 Peter 3:13
"Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells."
Revelation 21:1
"Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea."
The new heaven and earth both refers to the kingdom of God where the saints will dwell in. The rest of the unsaved sinners will be in hell.

1)So you're saying that a time will come that humans would not be in Heaven and earth and that it is only God that knows where they will be?

2)So are you saying that God will destroy all the heavens and create all the heavens again?

3)Are you saying that the saints would be in Heaven and on Earth?

4)where is hell located, And where does the Bible that the sinners will be in hell at the final judgement?

Michael547:
1)So you're saying that a time will come that humans would not be in Heaven and earth and that it is only God that knows where they will be?

2)So are you saying that God will destroy all the heavens and create all the heavens again?

3)Are you saying that the saints would be in Heaven and on Earth?

4)where is hell located, And where does the Bible that the sinners will be in hell at the final judgement?

2 Peter 3:7
"But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."
2 Peter 3:10,12
"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up......
......looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat?
2 Peter 3:13
"Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells."
Revelation 21:1
"Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea."
The new heaven and earth both refers to the kingdom of God where the saints will dwell in. The rest of the unsaved sinners will be in hell.
The location of hell is unseen with the eyes of the flesh. We believe there is hell through faith in the Bible just as we believe in God and heaven through the Bible.
Read Matthew 25:31-46 to see that sinners will be sent to hell while the righteous is sent to heaven.

estheragha:
2 Peter 3:7
"But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."
2 Peter 3:10,12
"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up......
......looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat?
2 Peter 3:13
"Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells."
Revelation 21:1
"Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea."
The new heaven and earth both refers to the kingdom of God where the saints will dwell in. The rest of the unsaved sinners will be in hell.
The location of hell is unseen with the eyes of the flesh. We believe there is hell through faith in the Bible just as we believe in God and heaven through the Bible.
Read Matthew 25:31-46 to see that sinners will be sent to hell while the righteous is sent to heaven.

1)So you're teaching us here that not all saints will be in Heaven? Some will be on the new earth and not in the new heaven?

2)I'm not asking if hell can be seen or not. Where is hell? In heaven or on earth?

Explain Revelation 20:14 below.

King James Bible
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Explain what happens to hell in the above verse.

Michael547:
1)So you're teaching us here that not all saints will be in Heaven? Some will be on the new earth and not in the new heaven?

2)I'm not asking if hell can be seen or not. Where is hell? In heaven or on earth?

Explain Revelation 20:14 below.

King James Bible
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Explain what happens to hell in the above verse.

2 Peter 3:13
"Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells."
This indicates that both the new heavens and earth are meant for the saints. Who gets to live where, the Bible didnt specify.

Hell is neither in heaven or on earth. It has its own separate location. If you are asking the name of its location, the Bible didnt say.

That hell in Rev 20: 14 is written as Hades in New King James Version
Revelation 20:14
"Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."
Hades is a place where sinners go after death before finally entering hell ( the lake of fire)

estheragha:
2 Peter 3:13
"Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells."
This indicates that both the new heavens and earth are meant for the saints. Who gets to live where, the Bible didnt specify.

Lol....so the bible teaches that not all saints will go to heaven?

Hell is neither in heaven or on earth. It has its own separate location. If you are asking the name of its location, the Bible didnt say.

That hell in Rev 20: 14 is written as Hades in New King James Version
Revelation 20:14
"Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. T[his is the second death."
Hades is a place where sinners go after death before finally entering hell ( the lake of fire)

1)So what is the Greek word for hell in other parts of the New Testament since you claim that the one in Revelation is Hades and not hell?

If Hell and Hades are different, explain Acts 2:27 below.

King James Bible
Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

New King James Version
For You will not leave my soul in Hades, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.


2)Does Revelation 20:15 below claim that sinners from Hades will go to hell?

King James Bible
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

New King James Version
And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire

Michael547:
Lol....so the bible teaches that not all saints will go to heaven?


1)So what is the Greek word for hell in other parts of the New Testament since you claim that the one in Revelation is Hades and not hell?

If Hell and Hades are different, explain Acts 2:27 below.

King James Bible
Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

New King James Version
For You will not leave my soul in Hades, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.


2)Does Revelation 20:15 below claim that sinners from Hades will go to hell?

King James Bible
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

New King James Version
And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire

2 Peter 3:13
"Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells."
This indicates that both the new heavens and earth are meant for all the saints. The Bible didnt explain in great details but it teaches clearly that the new heaven and earth are both for all the saints.

Acts 2:27
"For You will not leave my soul in Hades, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption." This means God will not allow his soul to fall into hades, him, David, being a righteous man.

All sinners in Hades are those whose name are not written in the Book of Life. They are the ones to be cast into the lake of fire of hell at the end.

THE RELATION BETWEEN THE BAPTISM OF
JESUS AND REDEMPTION

What’s the relation between the baptism of Jesus and redemption?
The baptism of Jesus is the antitype of
redemption prophesied through the laying on of hands in the Old Testament.

Imagine a man who lives as a sinner even though he believes in Jesus and prays in church, “Dear God, please forgive me for the sins I committed last week. Forgive me for these past three days’ sins. O Lord, forgive me for today’s sins. I believe in Jesus.” Let’s assume that this man is forgiven for his daily sins by that prayer. But afterwards, he goes back to his everyday life and sins again. Then, he will become a sinner again.

Jesus became the Lamb of God and took away the sins of all sinners through His baptism and redeemed them by being crucified on the Cross. In order to be redeemed, sinners should believe the following to be redeemed. All sin was taken away by Jesus when He was baptized by John the Baptist, thus fulfilling God’s righteousness. All the sins of the world were washed away. Whoever believes in this truth is delivered. As it is written in Matthew 3:13-17, “for thus” was Jesus baptized by John the Baptist and made the Savior of all believers.

The gospel of truth tells us that Jesus took away the sins of the world once and for all. But the false theology tells us that we are redeemed every day. Which should we
believe? Are we redeemed once and for all, or are we redeemed every day? It is obvious that Jesus delivered us once and for all. The true belief is faith in the redemption of the water and the Spirit once and for all. Those who believe that we must be redeemed every day will never be delivered. They should know that real redemption comes from believing that Jesus delivered us once and for all through His baptism and death on the Cross. All we have to do is give thanks to God and believe in this true gospel.

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estheragha:
2 Peter 3:13
"Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells."
This indicates that both the new heavens and earth are meant for all the saints. The Bible didnt explain in great details but it teaches clearly that the new heaven and earth are both for all the saints.

Acts 2:27
"For You will not leave my soul in Hades, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption." This means God will not allow his soul to fall into hades, him, David, being a righteous man.

All sinners in Hades are those whose name are not written in the Book of Life. They are the ones to be cast into the lake of fire of hell at the end.

1)What is the Greek word For Hell since you claim it is different from Hades?

2)Where does the Bible mention Lake of Fire of Hell?

Michael547:
1)What is the Greek word For Hell since you claim it is different from Hades?

2)Where does the Bible mention Lake of Fire of Hell?

The Greek word for hell, a place of final punishment, is Gehenna.

The Bible mentions hell fire in Matthew 9: 47 and also mentions Lake of fire in Revelation 20: 15. So we understand that hell is a lake of fire.

Those who are misguided in their faith say that we are only delivered of original sin, that we should be redeemed every day from actual sins, and that we can “gradually” become righteous. That is wrong. The baptism of Jesus and His death on the Cross accomplished the forgiveness of sin once and for all. This is the truth. Our sins had to be passed on to Jesus through John the Baptist and Jesus had to die on the
Cross in order for us to be saved.

Saying “forgive me” after we sin does not fit theJustice of God. The law of God says that the wages of sin is death. We should know that God is Just and Holy. Those who pray to God, “I am sorry, please forgive me” after they sin do not know the Justice of God. They pray for forgiveness, but only to assuage their own conscience. Is it right that one sins everyday and consoles one’s conscience by repeatedly repenting for his transgressions?

The only way to be delivered is by believing in the baptism of Jesus and His blood on the Cross. We should believe it in our hearts. It is the only way we can avoid the judgment of God.

estheragha:
The Greek word for hell, a place of final punishment, is Gehenna.

1)Do you agree that Gehenna means "Valley of hinnom" and it is a physical location outside of the walls of Jerusalem?

2)Do people go to hell with their bodies after death?

The Bible mentions hell fire in Matthew 9: 47 and also mentions Lake of fire in Revelation 20: 15. So we understand that hell is a lake of fire.

There is no Matthew 9:47 in the bible.

Where does the Bible mention Lake of fire of Hell?

Anyone believing the invented fictional Jesus Christ character is real, must also believe that: The son of Ifa born of a virgin in Abeokuta, turned water into the sweetest palm wine and walked on the Ogun river.

If you want to know about the Real God of the Jews and Israel then start from here:

Zechariah 8:23
“In those days ten men from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6gcwLuq95c

Michael547:
1)Do you agree that Gehenna means "Valley of hinnom" and it is a physical location outside of the walls of Jerusalem?

2)Do people go to hell with their bodies after death?


There is no Matthew 9:47 in the bible.

Where does the Bible mention Lake of fire of Hell?

Hell is Gehenna in greek, which signify a place of fiery judgment and destruction. The word itself is derived from a Hebrew word Ge- hinnom which designated a valley south of Jerusalem, a cursed place that had been the site of human fire sacrifices. Gehenna is the term commonly used to refer to the lake of fire.

People's physical body rot. Their spiritual body, ie, their spirit/soul is what goes to hell.

I meant Mark 9:47. The Bible mentions hell fire in Mark 9: 47 and also mentions Lake of fire in Revelation 20: 15. So we understand that hell is a lake of fire.

Is redemption granted once and for all, or every day?
Once and for all. Jesus took away the sins of all sinners through His baptism.

In Matthew 3:15, when Jesus was baptized in the most fitting way, He washed away all sin through His baptism and died on the Cross to deliver us from all the sins of the world. To ask for forgiveness every day would be the same as asking Him to take away our sins and die all over again. We should truly understand the just law of God. Jesus does not have to die over and over again to deliver us from our sins.

God considers it most insolent for those who believe in Jesus to ask again and again for the forgiveness of actual sins. “These insolent fools! They are asking My Son, Jesus, to be baptized for a second time and die again on the Cross! They believe in the redemption in Jesus and still call themselves sinners! I will judge them with My just law and send all of them down into the burning pits of hell. Are you willing to kill your own begotten son twice? You are asking Me to kill My Son again because of your actual sins. I have already killed My own Son to save you once from all the sins of the world. So don’t raise my ire by asking me to forgive your actual sins, again and again. Just believe in the gospel of the redemption of the water and the Spirit.”

Jesus tells those who remain sinners that they should go to a church where true gospel is preached, abandon false belief and receive redemption by overcoming untruth with faith. Now is the time for you to be saved by believing in your heart. Do you believe?

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estheragha:
Hell is Gehenna in greek, which signify a place of fiery judgment and destruction. The word itself is derived from a Hebrew word Ge- hinnom which designated a valley south of Jerusalem, a cursed place that had been the site of human fire sacrifices. Gehenna is the term commonly used to refer to the lake of fire.
Hades on the other hand, generally refers to the abode of the dead, rather than a place of fiery punishment.

People's physical body rot. Their spiritual body, ie, their spirit/soul is what goes to hell.

I meant Mark 9:47. The Bible mentions hell fire in Mark 9: 47 and also mentions Lake of fire in Revelation 20: 15. So we understand that hell is a lake of fire.

1)So if you claim that Gehenna is a physical location in Jerusalem, how come hell and lake of fire is not a physical location?

2)Is soul and spirit the same?

3)So if people do not go to hell with their physical body, explain Mark 9:47. Does soul/spirit have an eye that can be plucked out?

King James Bible
And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

4)in the story of Lazarus and the rich man, where was the rich man located? In hell or hades?

Michael547:
1)So if you claim that Gehenna is a physical location in Jerusalem, how come hell and lake of fire is not a physical location?

2)Is soul and spirit the same?

3)So if people do not go to hell with their physical body, explain Mark 9:47. Does soul/spirit have an eye that can be plucked out?

King James Bible
And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

4)in the story of Lazarus and the rich man, where was the rich man located? In hell or hades?

Gehenna is not a physical location. Gehenna is the term commonly used to refer to the lake of fire in Greek.

God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living being. The breath God breathed into man's nostrils is the spirit. The soul refers to the inner thoughts of man. A human being has a spirit, a soul and a body.

Mark 9:47 simply means you should not let anything hinder you from heaven. Nevertheless, it didnt say its the spirit eye that should be plucked out, but the physical eye which causes one to sin on earth. It means that it is better for you to have one eye as you are on this earth and get to enter the kingdom of God, instead of having 2 eyes on this earth and be sent to hell. In other words, dont let anything hinder you from heaven. Moreover, the Bible does not describe in details what the spirit looks like.

The rich man was sent to Hades as seen in Luke 16:23)
Nevertheless, Revelation 20:14 states, "Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire." The Bible is the standard and measuring rod of truth. From the Bible, in Luke 16:23-24, it indicates that Hades is a place of fiery torment as well but the point is that Hades being later cast into the lake of fire in Revelation 20:14 indicates that Hades is a temporary place of torment for dead sinners before they will be cast into the lake of fire at the end. The Bible does not describe Hades in details, therefore we cannot know anything besides what the Bible itself states.

VERSES THAT SINNERS USE AS THEIR
SHELTER

Can we really be redeemed by confessing our sins, or have we already been redeemed? God granted redemption from
sin once and for all.

1 John 1:9 says, “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrigh- teousness.” It would be nice if we only needed to confess our sins to be forgiven. With this in mind, some theologians came up with a great idea for a new doctrine. They insist that every time someone confesses his sins he can be forgiven. Isn’t that convenient? But Jesus never said that we would be forgiven every time we confessed ourselves to God.

Can we really be forgiven by simply confessing our sins, or have we already been redeemed? Which do you believe? People who advocate this false doctrine believe that they are forgiven every time they confess their sins, but in fact, sin remains in their hearts because they do not know the true words of redemption. It makes no sense that sinners who believe in Jesus are forgiven whenever they pray for the forgiveness of actual sins. For this reason, we ought to heed His words on redemption and discriminate between truth and falsehood, regardless of what we may have been told.

Sinners misunderstand 1 John 1:9. They mistakenly think it concerns the forgiveness of daily sins. Let’s read the teachings carefully. “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” Do you think that we are only saved from original sin and that we must confess our actual sins for Him to be faithful and just and forgive them? These are only misguided thoughts which owe to the weakness of our flesh. We realize that this is not true when we believe in the baptism and blood of Jesus. All sin was already washed away with His baptism and blood on the Cross a long, long time ago.

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estheragha:
Gehenna is not a physical location. Gehenna is the term commonly used to refer to the lake of fire in Greek.

God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living being. The breath God breathed into man's nostrils is the spirit. The soul refers to the inner thoughts of man. A human being has a spirit, a soul and a body.

Mark 9:47 simply means you should not let anything hinder you from heaven. Nevertheless, it didnt say its the spirit eye that should be plucked out, but the physical eye which causes one to sin on earth. It means that it is better for you to have one eye as you are on this earth and get to enter the kingdom of God, instead of having 2 eyes on this earth and be sent to hell. In other words, dont let anything hinder you from heaven. Moreover, the Bible does not describe in details what the spirit looks like.

The rich man was sent to Hades as seen in Luke 16:23)
Nevertheless, Revelation 20:14 states, "Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire." The Bible is the standard and measuring rod of truth. From the Bible, in Luke 16:23-24, it indicates that Hades is a place of fiery torment as well but the point is that Hades being later cast into the lake of fire in Revelation 20:14 indicates that Hades is a temporary place of torment for dead sinners before they will be cast into the lake of fire at the end. The Bible does not describe Hades in details, therefore we cannot know anything besides what the Bible itself states.

1)In Genesis 2:7 that you quoted, where did the bible say that soul was put into man?

2)explain Matthew 10:28 and mark 9:47, 48. below.

If the bodies don't go to hell, what do the worms eat?

New American Standard Bible
And if your eye is causing you to sin, throw it away; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, than, having two eyes, to be thrown into hell, 48where ‘Their worm does not die And the fire is not quenched.’

New King James Version
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

3)If the rich man was thirsty and was asking for water to cool his tongue, does that mean that wicked people go to Hades with their bodies?

Michael547:
1)In Genesis 2:7 that you quoted, where did the bible say that soul was put into man?

2)explain Matthew 10:28 and mark 9:47, 48. below.

If the bodies don't go to hell, what do the worms eat?

New American Standard Bible
And if your eye is causing you to sin, throw it away; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, than, having two eyes, to be thrown into hell, 48where ‘Their worm does not die And the fire is not quenched.’

New King James Version
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

3)If the rich man was thirsty and was asking for water to cool his tongue, does that mean that wicked people go to Hades with their bodies?

There is no account in the Bible that explicitly shows where soul was put into the body but Deuteronomy 6:5, " You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength." indicating that man has a soul.

Sinners will be resurrected with bodies that cannot die. Therefore, they will suffer eternal torment in hell. Jesus said about the resurrection of condemnation. "and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation." (John 5:29)

To believe according to the Spirit and to believe according to misguided thoughts are two quite different things. Those who believe according to their own thoughts feel the need to wash away their sins every day,
but those who believe in the redemption of the water and the blood know that they were delivered once and for all through the baptism and blood of Jesus Christ. Those who believe that they should confess every
day to be redeemed anew are in fact committing the sin of not believing in redemption through the baptism and
blood of Jesus. Have you been redeemed once and for all through the baptism and blood of Jesus?

Those who are not redeemed try to win salvation by confessing their sins every day. This still leaves the problem of what to do about the actual sins they will commit in the future. They may try to confess in advance for their future sins. But in so doing they show a lack of belief in Jesus. These people are blind to the gospel of redemption. Jesus
delivered us from sin once and for all with His baptism and blood, taking the judgment upon Himself. We are delivered simply by believing in Him. If you think you must confess even your future sins to be saved, you are no different from unbelievers who know nothing of being born again of water and the Spirit. Sinners cannot be redeemed through confession.

Therefore if you confess honestly, “I am a sinner who is not yet redeemed,” and then if you listen and believe in the gospel of His baptism and death on the Cross, God
will deliver you from all your sins. But if you don’t believe in the gospel of redemption and only hide under repentant prayers, you will face terrible judgment when Jesus comes again to this world as the Just Judge.

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estheragha:
There is no account in the Bible that explicitly shows where soul was put into the body but Deuteronomy 6:5, " You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength." indicating that man has a soul.

1)So are you saying that the word "soul" does not appear in Genesis 2:7?
b)What is the Hebrew word for soul?

Sinners will be resurrected with bodies that cannot die. Therefore, they will suffer eternal torment in hell. Jesus said about the resurrection of condemnation. "and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation." (John 5:29)

below in bold is the statement you made with screenshot evidence when I asked you if bodies of wicked people go to hell.

"People's physical body rot. Their spiritual body, ie, their spirit/soul is what goes to hell."

Do worms eat spiritual bodies according to mark 9:47, 48?

Are you denying that Matthew 10:28 mentions body and soul in hell?

3)If the rich man was thirsty and was asking for water to cool his tongue, does that mean that wicked people go to Hades with their bodies?