₦airaland Forum

femi4:
The yorubaland didn't get healing from allah

Neither did it get healings from jesus.

AntiChristian:
Are they not being paid for their services? USA never does a business it won't gain from except a few like Afghanistan sha.

The USA gained a lot from Afghanistan natural and mineral resources.

Axis313:
For your information,I don't care about Saudi Arabia,they are Americans and Israeli puppets.

so sad to admit that the descendants of your holy prophet came to be Americans and Israeli puppets. Is God not wonderful

AntiChristian:
This is a religious section not technological section! So you should be able to contexualise what is said before making a judgement!

Religious inovation not technological!

Know the context and be sensible!

I am not to discredit your post but innovation is innovation whether in a religious matter or technology.
Take for instance, religious buildings. We were told original Quran was not written on paper but today as a result of innovation, it is now on screens of various devices. Let me stop here.

Axis313:
Neither did it get healings from jesus.

And who said it was gotten from Jesus? You just confirmed my comment above there

Osiris12:
which money were they paid. Saudi people who don’t even have the technology to extract their own oil

Is the so called technology free?

Your forefathers from where? Pls is your forefathers a Muslim? Pls fet this mixed and misinformed no sense clear pls.

Africa gas no forefathers in Islam or Christainiry, Africa forefathers are traditionalist so pls stop all these incorrect submission.

If I lie name of your forefathers with a proof who was a Muslim or a Christain? Abeg dem just brought all dis thing and we accepted it does not mean its my forefather or your forefather thing abeg.

Leave plenty talk abeg. Do your fasting in peace.

Obiedun:
I am not to discredit your post but innovation is innovation whether in a religious matter or technology.
Take for instance, religious buildings. We were told original Quran was not written on paper but today as a result of innovation, it is now on screens of various devices. Let me stop here.

How does that add to Islam?

Think before you type please.

Writting on scrolls, paper or anywhere adds nothing except you actually change what is written!

Which kind IQ be this?

slimik:
The USA gained a lot from Afghanistan natural and mineral resources.

Yeah, but they did lose trillions of dollars too and thousands of their men dead!

This is unlike their other campaigns!

Osiris12:
so sad to admit that the descendants of your holy prophet came to be Americans and Israeli puppets. Is God not wonderful

How are you so sure those in power in Saudi Arabia are the real descendants of the Prophet, the country is named after the families of the Saud who doesn't even have any connection with the Prophet, they seized power in 1932 to create the current Saudi Arabia, the country's former name was Hijaz.
Your hatred and ignorance about Islam is evident in many of your comments.

Osiris12:
which money were they paid. Saudi people who don’t even have the technology to extract their own oil

Must they be paid in money?

Obiedun:
Without innovation the whole world will never move forward. There is nothing wrong with innovation. Perhaps your own definition of innovation is different from dictionary meaning.
May innovation continue

He is talking about Innovation in the Faith.

AntiChristian:
How does that add to Islam?

Think before you type please.

Writting on scrolls, paper or anywhere adds nothing except you actually change what is written!

Which kind IQ be this?

It's like wasting your valuable times on people that have made up their minds on hating Islam and Muslims.
Every Friday,those jobless urchins always run to Islamic threads to cause problems.
Small time,they will be wailing that they are banned by the mods.

AntiChristian:
How does that add to Islam?

Think before you type please.

Writting on scrolls, paper or anywhere adds nothing except you actually change what is written!

Which kind IQ be this?

I am thinking very well before typing. Can you now see that. I can see anger in your eyes. Is that how to serve God? With your mindset you can achieve anything. What has caused this uncultured response? Good day

Chucks13:
Your forefathers from where? Pls is your forefathers a Muslim? Pls fet this mixed and misinformed no sense clear pls.

Africa gas no forefathers in Islam or Christainiry, Africa forefathers are traditionalist so pls stop all these incorrect submission.

If I lie name of your forefathers with a proof who was a Muslim or a Christain? Abeg dem just brought all dis thing and we accepted it does not mean its my forefather or your forefather thing abeg.

Leave plenty talk abeg. Do your fasting in peace.

I am over 5 decades old, my father lived to be 92 years, his own father named him Abdul-Kareem and my grandfather was named Salahudeen.

For context, my father passed in 2016 and my grandfather passed in 1964.

So, do some Muslims have Muslim grandfather that prayed that against Innovation in the Faith?

Axis313:
Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan were destabilized by your Christian brothers Americans and their allies.
Iran that is under brutal international sanction for over 40 years is even more advanced than your country.
Sometimes, you guys are not reasonable, you speak out of emotion when you don't have any tangible opinion to offer.

relocate to iran na mumu. if them put US visa and saudi visa which one you go take

Lukuluku69:
He is talking about Innovation in the Faith.

Even at that are all innovation wrong?

Obiedun:
I am not to discredit your post but innovation is innovation whether in a religious matter or technology.
Take for instance, religious buildings. We were told original Quran was not written on paper but today as a result of innovation, it is now on screens of various devices. Let me stop here.

Innovation in Faith is quite different from what you think.

Yes, the Quran initially were written on stones, shoulder blades of animals, goats skins, as the faithfuls met with other cultures, materials from papyrus came into play and it was adopted. That is your own definition of Innovation which is quite different from what is meant as innovation in Faith

Telling people to offer specific numbers of postures while doing additional prayers is never the practice of the Prophet (Peace be upon him), telling people to wear a certain colour of fabrics/clothes for prayers and many other such commands not expressly attributed to the Prophet nor commanded by him is what is known as Innovation in Faith.

Obiedun:
Even at that are all innovation wrong?

Not all innovations are wrong, but you will find the Muslims specifically intentional about what they do while worshipping. If it is not specifically mentioned in the Quran and it wasn't the practice of the Prophet (Peace be upon him) nor was commanded by him, it is null and void.

Lukuluku69:
I am over 5 decades old, my father lived to be 92 years, his own father named him Abdul-Kareem and my grandfather was named Salahudeen.

For context, my father passed in 2016 and my grandfather passed in 1964.

So, do some Muslims have Muslim grandfather that prayed that against Innovation in the Faith?

So your grandfather is your forefather? Haa! Oga pls nor talj dis in public abeg. Use Google ok.

You said your papa na Abdul-Kareem pls go to Islamic book call quran and Arabic thesis kindly tell me the meaning of Abdul then tell me the meaning of Kareem you will see you allow a strange religion to give you name with horrible meaning and dump your real gorefather names that carries wright and good meaning.

Let me help you:with the meaning:
Kareem---Noble
Abdul----Slave or a househelp so pls combine this two name together how does it sound and do you feel comfortable with it than Adewale, Olayinka, Olayemi etc. Bro reason proper don't lost your foundation, islam is not your forefather religion its your grandfather who accepted it and you all fell in line.

Lukuluku69:
Not all innovations are wrong, but you will find the Muslims specifically intentional about what they do while worshipping. If it is not specifically mentioned in the Quran and it wasn't the practice of the Prophet (Peace be upon him) nor was commanded by him, it is null and void.

Thank you this is what I was expecting.

"There was a time when the early Muslims and our forefathers in Yorùbá land would raise their hands in deep humility and say" Your forefathers prayed to their oduduwa and also their ancestors. This current religion was enforced on them against their will through violence.

Obiedun:
I am thinking very well before typing. Can you now see that. I can see anger in your eyes. Is that how to serve God? With your mindset you can achieve anything. What has caused this uncultured response? Good day

Please no vex!

Forgive me!

Chucks13:
So your grandfather is your forefather? Haa! Oga pls nor talj dis in public abeg. Use Google ok.

You said your papa na Abdul-Kareem pls go to Islamic book call quran and Arabic thesis kindly tell me the meaning of Abdul then tell me the meaning of Kareem you will see you allow a strange religion to give you name with horrible meaning and dump your real gorefather names that carries wright and good meaning.

Let me help you:with the meaning:
Kareem---Noble
Abdul----Slave or a househelp so pls combine this two name together how does it sound and do you feel comfortable with it than Adewale, Olayinka, Olayemi etc. Bro reason proper don't lost your foundation, islam is not your forefather religion its your grandfather who accepted it and you all fell in line.

Your interpretation of the name is false.

Abdul - Slave (or worshipper)
Kareem is one of Allah's name - The Most Noble or Generous or Bountiful.

So Abdul-Kareem means the slave (worshipper) of (Allah) the Noble!

AntiChristian:
Please no vex!

Forgive me!

May the almighty God forgive us our sins
Thank you

AntiChristian:
Your interpretation of the name is false.

Abdul - Slave (or worshipper)
Kareem is one of Allah's name - The Most Noble or Generous or Bountiful.

So Abdul-Kareem means the slave (worshipper) of (Allah) the Noble!

MS Baba and co. is coming to give you meticulous answer.
Olowo Eko and Akanbi Oloba where you guys are

femi4:
The yorubaland didn't get healing from allah

Neither could Allah recover the Kwara State they lost to the superior invading Fula militants. Lol

Chucks13:
So your grandfather is your forefather? Haa! Oga pls nor talj dis in public abeg. Use Google ok.

You said your papa na Abdul-Kareem pls go to Islamic book call quran and Arabic thesis kindly tell me the meaning of Abdul then tell me the meaning of Kareem you will see you allow a strange religion to give you name with horrible meaning and dump your real gorefather names that carries wright and good meaning.

Let me help you:with the meaning:
Kareem---Noble
Abdul----Slave or a househelp so pls combine this two name together how does it sound and do you feel comfortable with it than Adewale, Olayinka, Olayemi etc. Bro reason proper don't lost your foundation, islam is not your forefather religion its your grandfather who accepted it and you all fell in line.

"Forefathers" refers to ancestors or predecessors, typically from your family or cultural background 😊. Think of your grandparents, great-grandparents, or earlier generations that paved the way.

Do you understand CONTEXT?

If you do, FOREFATHERS and GRANDFATHERS can be used as synonyms in the context of explaining the very FIRST SET of people that embraced the Islamic Faith. I don't need Google. Do you know why? Google articles and whatever are written by men like you and I sometimes with their biases, cultural and religious taints but most times in line with the general reality of the age they live.

Obviously you are dabbling into a field you have little knowledge about.

Abdul-Kareem.

Lol

Properly written is Abdul Al-Kareem but because of clipping in some languages it is usually written Abdul-Kareem meaning The Servants of The Noble.

Who is The Noble? Allah The Creator of the Heavens and the Earth and everything between them. Call him God, Eleda (The Creator) it is all good so far, you don't insert the image of a man, animals or anything you have ever thought of/up in your mind.

And yes, I will be happy to bear the name Abdul/Servant of the Creator.

And just so you know, I am not losing my way, rather I found the WAY!

May all these foreign religions be eventually ridiculed ntori olorun.
Make person ascribe Islam / Christianity to African ancestors is too much humiliation…

Our ancestors practiced African spirituality and were never Muslims nor Christians and they lived far better and fulfilled lives.

Since when these foreign religions came to Africa, it has been from one problem to another… poverty, violence, backwardness and division

Lukgaf:
There was a time when the early Muslims and our forefathers in Yorùbá land would raise their hands in deep humility and say:

“O Allah, elevate Islam and the Sunnah, and disgrace innovations (bid‘ah).”

They made this du‘ā not casually, but with pain in their hearts. They witnessed practices introduced into the religion that the Prophet ﷺ never taught, and they longed for a time when people would return to the pure Sunnah.

Today, as we reflect during this blessed month of Ramadan, we see clear signs that Allah has answered those sincere prayers.

Not long ago, it was common in many places to see prescribed schedules of specific nafilah prayers assigned to each night of Ramadan — with fixed numbers of rak‘ah, specific recitations, and special supplications for each night. These were often presented as if they were part of the religion itself. People followed them sincerely, thinking they were drawing closer to Allah.

But Alhamdulillah, today the situation has greatly changed.

Now, the vast majority of Muslims have embraced the authentic Sunnah of the Prophet ﷺ. They understand that voluntary prayers in Ramadan are open and flexible, not restricted to invented formats. They follow what the Prophet ﷺ taught, and they avoid introducing new acts into the religion.

Hardly will you find mosques today enforcing those fixed night-by-night innovations. Instead, you see people focusing on:

Qiyām al-Layl based on the Sunnah

Recitation of the Qur’an

Sincere du‘ā

Seeking Laylatul-Qadr

Following authentic teachings


This is not a coincidence. It is the fruit of sincere du‘ā, sincere teaching, and sincere sacrifice by those who came before us.

Allah says:

وَقَالَ رَبُّكُمُ ٱدْعُونِىٓ أَسْتَجِبْ لَكُمْ
"And your Lord says: Call upon Me, I will respond to you."
(Surah Ghafir 40:60)

Our forefathers called upon Allah, and today we are witnessing the response.

May Allah be pleased with them for their sincerity, their patience, and their struggle to preserve the Sunnah.

And this should remind us of an important lesson: du‘ā changes reality.

If their prayers transformed communities, then our prayers too can transform our homes, our children, and our society.

Let us increase our du‘ā in this blessed month. Let us ask Allah to preserve the Sunnah, protect us from innovation, and keep our hearts firm upon the truth.

May Allah make us among those who follow the Prophet ﷺ sincerely and grant us acceptance. Ameen.

Ramadan is pagan Arab practice before Islam, copied from Zoroastrianism. Go and verify