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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 10:43pm On Mar 02
abduleez1:
Stating the obvious. It's not a bomber sha. I'm only correcting you on the classification. Many fighters can perform multirole duties.



Which one is can they be more effective? F-35 that hasn't fought a near peer adversary?
That's how people like you were mouthing off how invincible the French Rafale fighters were until small Pakistan wey no get level humbled them last year with J-10C.

One of the main reasons US weapons has popularity is because of its pact with the EU. Those ones can't produce many heavy military equipment on their own, so they rely on uncle Sam to do it for them. Also, another major and probably the most important decider is because US likes to sanction countries for using Chinese or Russian weaponry. So countries who don't want that smoke or lack the leverage to just play it safe and go for platforms that comes with lesser problems. Hence, US fighters/ weaponry are more popular because of the EU and it's Asian puppets like Korea and Japan etc.
I'll just assume you don't understand how geopolitics play in weapons purchase.

No be the same USA wey dey cry several weeks ago about Algeria purchasing the Russian SU-57 5th gen fighter? Dem don dey knack am sanctions. grin


True, USA is ahead already in fifth generation fighter aircraft race, being the pioneers. But presently in the next race to fielding 6th gen fighters, China is already ahead with them already testing not one but TWO aircrafts, to the awe of the West. The J-36 and J-50 says hi to the next era of air superiority; while the USA F-47 6th gen fighter jet is still stuck in PowerPoint slide. grin grin

I'll give the USA credit with the B-21 Raider, although much specifics isn't known about it yet, since it's still new.



In case you don't know, China has overseas bases too. Not just up to US numbers and just a few.

USA has over 200 years long history of colonizing and external aggression against other countries.
Not the same with China.
This is not about whether China has the capacity or not. The largest holders of US debt is China. They're not just that interested in world military domination unless it concerns their region.
And in the future China would become more assertive about it's overseas interests as it's economic power and military continues to grow. For now..... they're more about shrinking US power in the Asian Pacific.

So, I don't even think you know just how much money China has at their disposal. The same China that the West are crying about foreign loans to other countries labelling them unsustainable. The same people wey dey cry about Chinese subsidy in billions of dollars.

China had a trade surplus vs the entire world with a $1.2tn trade surplus in 2025 despite Trump's antics to spoil that revenue pull. That's larger than even the Pentagon's budget. So all this talk wey you talk so, I no sure say you Sabi the economics. grin

One thing many average people seem to be missing about the world's geopolitics; it's all about LOCATION/REGION.

Look at the map and see the location of the World's powers. Look at the UNSC five permanent members — US, Russia, China, France, UK. Look at their regions. The USA basically has no enemies or strong powerful country that could challenge them close to its borders.

So, USA has the luxury of fomenting trouble in other regions and going scot free because their location is largely peaceful. Canada and Mexico na basically outskirts states to the USA. No threats. When you no get issue at home, e easy to dey form world police. Abi you people no dey hear of Nigerian history and the interventions in Liberia and Sierra Leone? Why can't Nigeria do it frequently now when trouble is brewing everywhere, even tho we are the regional power. They just did minimal deployment in Benin coup attempt because it was a matter of our existence.

We left the Nigeriens, Burkina Faso and co with their shenanigans because, you dey deal with Boko Haram and military dey shout about inadequate equipment, shey na him you wan dey reason ECOWAS expedition for faraway land stretching your military thin and your budget.

Funny thing is not that Nigeria can't do these interventions. Some things just deserve logic.

The point I'm getting to is that this is the reason China or Russia can't attempt what the USA is currently doing. China has someone like India that's also a powerful nation as a neighbour, there's also Russia to the North that although they're allies isn't one to be trusted 100%. You still have to deal with an imperial Japan to the South. I'm not even talking about the other smaller nations in the South China Sea like the Philippines, Vietnam etc. Russia has similar problems. Same as UK and France in Europe.

So, if you're the one, you're telling me your main issue will be trying to police someone in West Africa how he should run his government or economy? Let's be logical here.

You think if not for Iran and the rogue Arabs you think Israel won't cross the Mediterranean and start fights with Turkey? It's because of its regional security it is/should focus in it's domain of influence instead of stretching itself thin.

The same USA that raised hell when USSR fielded some weaponry in Cuba? They know the problems with a strong neighbour who's also an adversary.

All this thing na logic and necessity. It's not about who has the biggest D_
Omo you really put body for this China my guy. E be like you dey see something wey we no dey see. grin
Though I will admit I don't know much about their economics outside their trade dynamics, wars and booming economy but till they are able to translate that to worldwide superiority or other angles to catch up or depose the US na Washington still be number one. Of course when you sense a perceived opp trying to gain a loophole which will put you in danger you try to snuff it out or raise an alarm.
Though the US will always fight for their interests first I'll still prefer them as the defacto leader to china or Russia wey go still even jam head for future cause you talk true when you say them no trust themselves.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 10:47pm On Mar 02
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Funny thing is that the economics side of it, e favour Iran especially if Tehran want to do attrition war. 35k dollar Shahed-136 destroying 1billion dollar early warning missile defense radar. We never talk about the expensive Western interceptor missiles.
You're absolutely right about Moscow & Beijing providing Iran coordinate & targeting. E follow for many things US is doing for Ukraine. Time to pay back in kind because what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

U can't see me responding to Alaba analyst.
US fired 12 tomahawk cruise missiles in Sokoto, 4 out of the 12 did not explode. This is in a setting where there's no Electronic warfare system/jamming interference. Make he go jam head for wall. US is living in past glory.
China and Russia hand dey there. E too obvious.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ghostagain: 10:51pm On Mar 02
Nigerians should have been the champions at making cheap weapons. I don't understand why Nigerians can't compete in this field.
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Funny thing is that the economics side of it, e favour Iran especially if Tehran want to do attrition war. 35k dollar Shahed-136 destroying 1billion dollar early warning missile defense radar. We never talk about the expensive Western interceptor missiles.
You're absolutely right about Moscow & Beijing providing Iran coordinate & targeting. E follow for many things US is doing for Ukraine. Time to pay back in kind because what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

U can't see me responding to Alaba analyst.
US fired 12 tomahawk cruise missiles in Sokoto, 4 out of the 12 did not explode. This is in a setting where there's no Electronic warfare system/jamming interference. Make he go jam head for wall. US is living in past glory.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by sleekdot(m): 10:53pm On Mar 02
joseph1832:
BelieVe me, Russia didn't go all out with Ukraine, if they did, it will provoke the anger of the entire world, especially when the war Russia is fighting, isn't even welcomed by most countries. So, the best Russia can do, is play it the way they're playing it.
And why would Russia care about the anger of the entire world? If the US wants to do something, they do it and the others follow them
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:58pm On Mar 02
Ghostagain:
Nigerians should have been the champions at making cheap weapons. I don't understand why Nigerians can't compete in this field.
We have the natural resources, we have the human resources. I think poor leadership is the problem for Nigeria.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:03pm On Mar 02
WhoDeyHause:
China and Russia hand dey there. E too obvious.
Na US find trouble na. Only you is arming Ukraine, Poland, Israel, Taiwan, Philippines, Japan.
Any opportunity wey Russia or China get to inflict casualties on US through proxy groups/country.. Dem go use am. Nothing wey America go do.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m):
WhoDeyHause:
Omo you really put body for this China my guy. E be like you dey see something wey we no dey see. grin
Though I will admit I don't know much about their economics outside their trade dynamics, wars and booming economy but till they are able to translate that to worldwide superiority or other angles to catch up or depose the US na Washington still be number one. Of course when you sense a perceived opp trying to gain a loophole which will put you in danger you try to snuff it out or raise an alarm.
Though the US will always fight for their interests first I'll still prefer them as the defacto leader to china or Russia wey go still even jam head for future cause you talk true when you say them no trust themselves.
Understandable my bro. Nothing do you.

E just be like ancient times in Greece.
The Greek city-states were always fighting each other back to back for hundreds of years.... That's why you go dey wonder, how the much talked about Greeks with all their military might, great philosophers and poets— this people basically influenced the world on Classical times; how come they didn't dominate the whole world until Alexander The Great which conquered half the world during his prime.

Because the Macedonians/Greeks were always warring with each other. Not until the Macedons conquered the threats (neighbours) in the North where you have the Thracians and the Scythians— until they were totally subdued before they focused their lens on other Greek states like Athens, Corinth, Sparta and co. Na until then before then dey reason unifying Greece under one banner before Alexander get boldness say he wan conquer the Mediterranean and Asia. 😏
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:09pm On Mar 02
So the US took out all of Iran’s 11 naval ships in the gulf of Oman and we no even hear pim! But if Iran do mistake hit residential building in Kuwait or Tel Aviv , Okpa go begin permutation and combination 😂

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:16pm On Mar 02
Casualties increasing everyday

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:22pm On Mar 02
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
A simple and important advice to our abroad Naija brothers, I think y'all should stay safe & avoid staying close to UK/US or French military bases in the UK or France. I don't know why you are celebrating the unprovoked attack against Iran when this particular attack can escalate and endanger your safety in the UK or France.

Why I mentioned the UK & France is because they're the two European NATO members who provided Ukraine with long range missiles to attack Russia. Just last week, Ukraine struck a missile factory in Ural, this particular location is almost 3,000km away from the nearest Ukrainian border.

Iran and Russia are partners, there's nothing stopping Putin & Russia to give Iran long range missiles that can hit mainland UK or France. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. This is what we call proxy war. And I suspect that's the reason Iran is attacking France & UK military bases in the region. They want to drag them into the war.

So think twice before you celebrate!
They're testing the microphone🎤. I predicted it. If you like go dey waka anyhow close to UK military facilities. U won't know what will hit you.


https://x.com/clashreport/status/2028589463782219785?t=du2x9-XZVNMQiIKRMF_00w&s=09
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 11:24pm On Mar 02
[quote author=BlueRayDick post=138642847]So the US took out all of Iran’s 11 naval ships in the gulf of Oman and we no even hear pim! But if Iran do mistake hit residential building in Kuwait or Tel Aviv , Okpa go begin permutation and combination 😂

parliament building has been hit.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:27pm On Mar 02
WhoDeyHause:
Iran's government parliament building has been hit.
The number government buildings that have been taken out in Tehran are uncountable sef . Ballistic missile launchers and warehouses all taken out .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m): 11:46pm On Mar 02
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Funny thing is that the economics side of it, e favour Iran especially if Tehran want to do attrition war. 35k dollar Shahed-136 destroying 1billion dollar early warning missile defense radar. We never talk about the expensive Western interceptor missiles.
You're absolutely right about Moscow & Beijing providing Iran coordinate & targeting. E follow for many things US is doing for Ukraine. Time to pay back in kind because what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

U can't see me responding to Alaba analyst.
US fired 12 tomahawk cruise missiles in Sokoto, 4 out of the 12 did not explode. This is in a setting where there's no Electronic warfare system/jamming interference. Make he go jam head for wall. US is living in past glory.
I dey tell you bro. So far Iran can keep spamming and producing those Shaheds..... When these people exhaust their $4mn+ missiles, they'll come to the table. grin grin

Yeah, I remember that Tomahawk issue... I no wan just talk that time. I was shocked at its fail rate.

I no know whether you remember that year that Russia used Electronic jamming on an SU-34 fighter-bomber to disable a US Navy Arleigh Burke Class Destroyer in the Black sea. grin grin
I think the ship name was USS Cook. grin

They were sitting ducks for like 30 mins, no air defence was working, no main gun or secondary was working, anti aircraft or PHALANX CIWS (close in weapons system) refused to work, no AEGIS .... Premium panick begin dey hold those sailors that day. grin grin

If Russia wanted to take out that ship, it would be too easy. Na that day them test first hand the capability of Russian electronic warfare.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 11:52pm On Mar 02
Lebanese Prime minister bans Hezbollah from shooting rockets at Israel grin grin grin

You can't make this s*** up.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 11:59pm On Mar 02
BlueRayDick:
The number government buildings that have been taken out in Tehran are uncountable sef . Ballistic missile launchers and warehouses all taken out .
Brah this time it's completely different. Marco Rubio came out today to say they had to join Israel after they learnt that those ones were going to bomb Tehran with or without them and they didn't want to collect takeaway pack before they served their own

Don't forget a few weeks ago Bibi literally talked Trump out of bombing Iran further. The thing Israel has been cooking for years is finally here.

It's bloody marvellous kiss
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 12:09am On Mar 03
[quote author=BlueRayDick post=138642847]So the US took out all of Iran’s 11 naval ships in the gulf of Oman and we no even hear pim! But if Iran do mistake hit residential building in Kuwait or Tel Aviv , Okpa go begin permutation and combination 😂




Trump did a press conference stating this and more by 4PM WAT. That's why the alternative facts Okpa kept posting were amusing at best.

I admire the happiness these Iran fanboys create for themselves. They give no fûcks about reality.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 12:13am On Mar 03
nihilistjnr:
Lebanese Prime minister bans Hezbollah from shooting rockets at Israel grin grin grin

You can't make this s*** up.
If Hezbollah listens then they just proved the Lebanese government backed all its terror campaign which the former has denied for years.

And I don't think Trump and Bibi will let that slip by.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:14am On Mar 03
Elon Musk app ya weyrey gan o! 😂😂😂

Just look at the community note under this post 👀

https://x.com/shiavisuals/status/2027654334033355007?s=46

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 12:17am On Mar 03
I just love what Israel is doing with this Iranian general. They've refused to touch him. Na 20D Chess


grin grin grin grin

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:18am On Mar 03
DissTroy:
Trump


Trump did a press conference stating this and more by 4PM WAT. That's why the alternative facts Okpa kept posting were amusing at best.

I admire the happiness these Iran fanboys create for themselves. They give no fûcks about reality.
Their copium just keeps getting amusing as each day passes . Nothing wey dem no go celebrate
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 12:18am On Mar 03
Can someone please check on OasisX in UAE?

Baba be screaming "Up Iran" while dodging Iran missiles grin grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 12:20am On Mar 03
DissTroy:
If Hezbollah listens then they just proved the Lebanese government backed all its terror campaign which the former has denied for years.

And I don't think Trump and Bibi will let that slip by.
Hezbollah has been severely weakened that is why the Prime minister now has audacity to tell them what to do and what not to do. Before it was not so.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:21am On Mar 03
nihilistjnr:
Brah this time it's completely different. Marco Rubio came out today to say they had to join Israel after they learnt that those ones were going to bomb Tehran with or without them and they didn't want to collect takeaway pack before they served their own

Don't forget a few weeks ago Bibi literally talked Trump out of bombing Iran further. The thing Israel has been cooking for years is finally here.

It's bloody marvellous kiss
This evening I read the Jews had hacked traffic cameras in Tehran and were monitoring the daily movement of some key officials of the regime for a long while .

Bibi and his boys have been prepared for a long time ; wetin dem cook don finally done. Khamenei don chop him own last supper out of it , na the ones he left behind that are getting served now .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 12:22am On Mar 03
WhoDeyHause:
IRGC parliament building has been hit.
The building they use in chanting death to America and Israel every day.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 12:23am On Mar 03
BlueRayDick:
Elon Musk app ya weyrey gan o! 😂😂😂

Just look at the community note under this post 👀
https://x.com/shiavisuals/status/2027654334033355007?s=46.[/quote]They didn't just cook them with the note. They denied the post from getting Elon's funds. Double L.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 12:23am On Mar 03
So Trump said the main attack has not even started

grin grin grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 12:26am On Mar 03
Ellexy:
So Trump said the main attack has not even started

grin grin grin grin
That's why they're evacuating and warning Americans to exit the middle east. Na part 2 everybody wan play so.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 12:28am On Mar 03
abduleez1:
I dey tell you bro. So far Iran can keep spamming and producing those Shaheds..... When these people exhaust their $4mn+ missiles, they'll come to the table. grin grin

Yeah, I remember that Tomahawk issue... I no wan just talk that time. I was shocked at its fail rate.

I no know whether you remember that year that Russia used Electronic jamming on an SU-34 fighter-bomber to disable a US Navy Arleigh Burke Class Destroyer in the Black sea. grin grin
I think the ship name was USS Cook. grin

They were sitting ducks for like 30 mins, no air defence was working, no main gun or secondary was working, anti aircraft or PHALANX CIWS (close in weapons system) refused to work, no AEGIS .... Premium panick begin dey hold those sailors that day. grin grin

If Russia wanted to take out that ship, it would be too easy. Na that day them test first hand the capability of Russian electronic warfare.
USS Cook almost got cooked. grin grin
Russian electronic warefare is the best, na wetin save Iran during that Western sponsored protest few months ago. Russian electronic jamming system disabled StarLink network that Israeli agents smuggled into ran.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 12:29am On Mar 03
Iran was decapitated on day one

A headless chicken will try to shïit on anything before dying

That's what Iran is doing in the Gulf States. Flailing around like a desperate chicken on brink of death.

The Israelis are shocked they haven't taken more damage to Tel Aviv. Iran has few cards to play and the most desperate card is Dubais business district and Saudi and Qatari refineries to force the world into max pain and hope they call for peace before Irans oxygen run out
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 12:31am On Mar 03
BlueRayDick:
This evening I read the Jews had hacked traffic cameras in Tehran and were monitoring the daily movement of some key officials of the regime for a long while .

Bibi and his boys have been prepared for a long time ; wetin dem cook don finally done. Khamenei don chop him own last supper out of it , na the ones he left behind that are getting served now .
Google the top VPNs. Next, google their owners. 8 of the top are owned by Israelis.

Then you have people like late Ayatollah and other IRGC members operate X accounts to tweet propaganda. X saves their digital footprints. Given how Jews are in every strata of Silicon Valley, you know that information is being relayed somewhere where Mossad collates it.

Earlier in the year or late last year when Elon Musk began openly stating account locations publicly, some major accounts of official U.S. government accounts were found to be based in Israel. There was an uproar and Elon Musk restricted it.

And Elon has never hidden his sympathy or likeness for Israel. He openly trolled the late Ayatollah in January too. He definitely is passing on information.

When the Ayatollah got bombed two days ago, Elon was one of the first to quote the man's old tweet to troll him.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2:
You dey fight country, God they bless them harder in front of you as your country lies in ruins grin,I too love the country, they're proof that God exist ,no nation has been scattered came back and rebuild from scratch, all written in the bible.i chose the winning side

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 12:36am On Mar 03
Dem go learn.

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