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JESUS IS GOD.

JESUS IS GOD THE SON(John 1:1;1 John 5:7).

JESUS IS JESUS(YHWH/JEHOVAH SAVES).

JESUS IS EMMANUEL(GOD WITH US)(Matthew 1:23).

JESUS IS THE AMEN(Revelation 3:14).

Mosco100:
JESUS IS GOD.

JESUS IS GOD THE SON(John 1:1;1 John 5:7).

JESUS IS JESUS(YHWH/JEHOVAH SAVES).

JESUS IS EMMANUEL(GOD WITH US)(Matthew 1:23).

JESUS IS THE AMEN(Revelation 3:14).

1 John 5:7 was added by Trinitarians, it's absent from ALL early Greek manuscripts. Even most modern Bibles removed it. Scholars call it the 'Comma Johanneum', a deliberate insertion. Also, the phrase 'God the Son' appears absolutely nowhere in Scripture.

Jesus is simply God's son. God's unique son.
God the Father, is one true God. 1 Corinthians 8:5,6. John 17:3

Mosco100:
JESUS IS GOD.

JESUS IS GOD THE SON(John 1:1;1 John 5:7).

JESUS IS JESUS(YHWH/JEHOVAH SAVES).

JESUS IS EMMANUEL(GOD WITH US)(Matthew 1:23).

JESUS IS THE AMEN(Revelation 3:14).

Explain John 14:28 below.


King James Bible
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

cornelboy:
1 John 5:7 was added by Trinitarians, it's absent from ALL early Greek manuscripts. Even most modern Bibles removed it. Scholars call it the 'Comma Johanneum', a deliberate insertion. Also, the phrase 'God the Son' appears absolutely nowhere in Scripture.

Jesus is simply God's son. God's unique son.
God the Father, is one true God. 1 Corinthians 8:5,6. John 17:3

Did they add Colossians 1:16 and John 1:3 too?

Truthseeker10:
Explain John 14:28 below.

King James Bible
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Is your son a plant or non human simply because he is your son and less than you?

Dtruthspeaker:
Did they add Colossians 1:16 and John 1:3 too?

If Trinity is truly biblical, why manufacture evidence? The insertion of 1 John 5:7, absent from ALL early manuscripts, exposes the desperation behind Trinitarian theology.
Scripture consistently shows Jesus as God's agent of creation, not co-creator. Hebrews 1:2, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Proverbs 8:30, John 1:3 and Colossians 1:16 all use the preposition 'through', meaning Jesus acted on behalf of someone greater.
An agent is subordinate by definition. God is the source, Jesus is the channel. That's not Trinity, that's a clear hierarchy..

Hence, Jesus is not God, he is God's unique Son. This is consistent throughout Scripture. Jesus prayed TO God, was sent BY God, was raised BY God, and even said 'the Father is greater than I am.' A person cannot be greater than himself. The Bible's testimony is clear and consistent, Son and Father are distinct beings, not one or three in one.

Dtruthspeaker:
Is your son a plant or non human simply because he is your son and less than you?

Ok so you agree Jesus is God but not the Almighty God?

Truthseeker10:
Ok so you agree Jesus is God but not the Almighty God?

Already settled that

cornelboy:
If Trinity is truly biblical, why manufacture evidence? The insertion of 1 John 5:7, absent from ALL early manuscripts, exposes the desperation behind Trinitarian theology.
Scripture consistently shows Jesus as God's agent of creation, not co-creator. Hebrews 1:2, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Proverbs 8:30, John 1:3 and Colossians 1:16 all use the preposition 'through', meaning Jesus acted on behalf of someone greater.
An agent is subordinate by definition. God is the source, Jesus is the channel. That's not Trinity, that's a clear hierarchy..

Hence, Jesus is not God, he is God's unique Son. This is consistent throughout Scripture. Jesus prayed TO God, was sent BY God, was raised BY God, and even said 'the Father is greater than I am.' A person cannot be greater than himself. The Bible's testimony is clear and consistent, Son and Father are distinct beings, not one or three in one.

You are too stuck on trinity that you do not see that i never said anything about Trinity. So, all these are Off Point.

Colossians 1:16 and John 1:3 too and other scriptures has already settled that Jesus is our Creator

Dtruthspeaker:
You are too stuck on trinity that you do not see that i never said anything about Trinity. So, all these are Off Point.

Colossians 1:16 and John 1:3 too and other scriptures has already settled that Jesus is our Creator

Where does the Bible Mention Jesus as our creator in those verses?

Dtruthspeaker:
Already settled that

Is this the teaching of the Trinity doctrine or your own personal opinion?

Truthseeker10:
Explain John 14:28 below.


King James Bible
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Yes, the Father is greater, because Jesus chose to humble Himself, though He was equal with God: He didn't take it as robbery of His own greatness when He stepped down from the equality. “ Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. ”(Philippians 2:5-11).

cornelboy:
1 John 5:7 was added by Trinitarians, it's absent from ALL early Greek manuscripts. Even most modern Bibles removed it. Scholars call it the 'Comma Johanneum', a deliberate insertion. Also, the phrase 'God the Son' appears absolutely nowhere in Scripture.

Jesus is simply God's son. God's unique son.
God the Father, is one true God. 1 Corinthians 8:5,6. John 17:3

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”(Matthew 28:19).

cornelboy:
1 John 5:7 was added by Trinitarians, it's absent from ALL early Greek manuscripts. Even most modern Bibles removed it. Scholars call it the 'Comma Johanneum', a deliberate insertion. Also, the phrase 'God the Son' appears absolutely nowhere in Scripture.

Jesus is simply God's son. God's unique son.
God the Father, is one true God. 1 Corinthians 8:5,6. John 17:3

You can see the Trinity here:

“ And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”(Matthew 3:16,17).

cornelboy:
1 John 5:7 was added by Trinitarians, it's absent from ALL early Greek manuscripts. Even most modern Bibles removed it. Scholars call it the 'Comma Johanneum', a deliberate insertion. Also, the phrase 'God the Son' appears absolutely nowhere in Scripture.

Jesus is simply God's son. God's unique son.
God the Father, is one true God. 1 Corinthians 8:5,6. John 17:3

The Church is God's Church. (Acts 20:28).


It's Jesus' Church. “ And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. ”(Matthew 16:18).

It's the Holy Spirit's Church. “ As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.”(Acts 13:2).

Acts 20:28 says it all: “ Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.”


The above passage shows that God purchased us with His own blood. Jesus is God.

cornelboy:
If Trinity is truly biblical, why manufacture evidence? The insertion of 1 John 5:7, absent from ALL early manuscripts, exposes the desperation behind Trinitarian theology.
Scripture consistently shows Jesus as God's agent of creation, not co-creator. Hebrews 1:2, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Proverbs 8:30, John 1:3 and Colossians 1:16 all use the preposition 'through', meaning Jesus acted on behalf of someone greater.
An agent is subordinate by definition. God is the source, Jesus is the channel. That's not Trinity, that's a clear hierarchy..

Hence, Jesus is not God, he is God's unique Son. This is consistent throughout Scripture. Jesus prayed TO God, was sent BY God, was raised BY God, and even said 'the Father is greater than I am.' A person cannot be greater than himself. The Bible's testimony is clear and consistent, Son and Father are distinct beings, not one or three in one.

Father, Son and Holy Spirit, God in Three Persons, blessed Trinity!

Mosco100:
Father, Son and Holy Spirit, God in Three Persons, blessed Trinity!

The Bible is clear, God is ONE person, the Father. 1 Corinthians 8:6 states it explicitly. Are you saying Paul was lying or confused? Jesus and the Apostles never believed or taught that God exists in three persons. That doctrine came from men centuries later, not from Scripture. The Father alone is God Almighty.

Mosco100:
Yes, the Father is greater, because Jesus chose to humble Himself, though He was equal with God: He didn't take it as robbery of His own greatness when He stepped down from the equality. “ Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. ”(Philippians 2:5-11).

So you mean that the Trinity doctrine teaches that there was a time where God the son was no longer equal to the Father?

Mosco100:
You can see the Trinity here:

“ And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”(Matthew 3:16,17).

What I see is the true God (the Father) speaking from heaven to his only begotten Son, whom he sent as our Messiah. God was complete in heaven. He didn't need another person to complete him or form a 'three in one' God. A God who needs two others to be complete is not Almighty, he's dependent. The Father alone is the Almighty God, self-sufficient and complete.

Dtruthspeaker:
You are too stuck on trinity that you do not see that i never said anything about Trinity. So, all these are Off Point.

Colossians 1:16 and John 1:3 too and other scriptures has already settled that Jesus is our Creator

You replied to a trinity post though..

Take this part:
Scripture consistently shows Jesus as God's agent of creation, not co-creator or creator. Hebrews 1:2, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Proverbs 8:30, John 1:3 and Colossians 1:16 all use the preposition 'through', meaning Jesus acted on behalf of someone greater.
An agent is subordinate by definition. God is the source, Jesus is the channel.

cornelboy:
You replied to a trinity post though...

As I said, you are too fixxated on trinity meanwhile the header does not say trinity

Truthseeker10:
Where does the Bible Mention Jesus as our creator in those verses?

Do they not say so?

Dtruthspeaker:
As I said, you are too fixxated on trinity meanwhile the header does not say trinity

The thread is about Trinity ser

Dtruthspeaker:
Do they not say so?

No they didn't
They show Jesus as an agent of creation!
Creation was carried out THROUGH him by God Almighty who is the CREATOR.

Dtruthspeaker:
Do they not say so?

Kindly show me Creator in those verses.

Truthseeker10:
Kindly show me Creator in those verses.

I believe that you can read my comments then you read "were created by him," is clearly written there.

Dtruthspeaker:
I believe that you can read my comments then you read "were created by him," is clearly written there.

Below is Colossians 1:16.

New King James Version
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him

How can Jesus be the creator when things are Created through Him?

Mosco100:
Father, Son and Holy Spirit, God in Three Persons, blessed Trinity!

Early in the morning our song shall rise to thee!🤣

Truthseeker10:
Below is Colossians 1:16.

New King James Version
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him

How can Jesus be the creator when things are Created through Him?

That is why we say all other Bibles apart from Kjv are fake

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Even at that, you are just grasping at air for when a thing is created through a Person it is the person who created it, that is the creator exactly why carpenters are the creators of the furniture

Dtruthspeaker:
That is why we say all other Bibles apart from Kjv are fake

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Even at that, you are just grasping at air for when a thing is created through a Person it is the person who created it, that is the creator exactly why carpenters are the creators of the furniture

If your point in bold above is correct, why would you claim that all other translations of the Bible apart from kjv is fake?

cornelboy:
No they didn't
They show Jesus as an agent of creation!
Creation was carried out THROUGH him by God Almighty who is the CREATOR.

That is why we say all other Bibles apart from Kjv are fake

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Even at that, you are just grasping at air for when a thing is created through a Person it is the person who created it, that is the creator exactly why carpenters are the creators of the furniture

Truthseeker10:
If your point in bold above is correct, why would you claim that all other translations of the Bible apart from kjv is fake?

Because those other Bibles by their perversion and misnomer have caused you to be in error even below common sense which the bold has now corrected you on.