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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:31pm On Mar 06 |
semid4lyfe:I didnt watch the entire entire, Just the snippets posted here and Bwala didnt do well there, He seemed unprepared One of the best tactics in political argument is to be ready to concede some grounds. You cannot defend everything. And be prepared Nowadays what stops Bwala from having some talking points jotted down or even have an iPad where he can use to juggle his memory Its not a difficult task defending Tinubu at all, Only Insecurity is the hard part, which you can get ahead of. Others are very easy to defend |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:34pm On Mar 06 |
Emaprince:I understand that some of these appointments are political, but you wey dem appoint, at least brush yourself with the necessary skills and research. You cannot be the Special Adviser on Media and Publicity, and you cannot even try to deflect well, or even put up something coherent as a defense. E come be like Stand up abi na Sit down comedy |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:36pm On Mar 06 |
raumdeuter:No one is easy, to be honest. You can only enjoy some breather in economy, and that's all. The rest needs you to be able to stay on at least one strong point, or concede quickly. It's always the loudest and empty headed that usually go to defend Tinubu. The Bright minds of his government no fit do all these ones |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:38pm On Mar 06 |
Ellexy:Denying yourself is a bad look A simple answer is that you have a different perspective when looking from outside and talking without knowing the inner working, when you have come into the admin, known Tinubu personally, known how the govt works and some of the official documents, you have a different prspective If Mehdi continues pressing about 1. Bullion van, admit you were misled by people from Lagos who claimed money was in the bullion van, Upon closer thought you realized it was a lie, No one ever saw money in there. If there is anyone who can state the amount inside, Mehdi pls tell me. secondly, I doubt there is a law in Nigeria that says you cannot bring your own money into your own house even with a bullion van. Regarding the claim of election buying, That is a false claim that has never been substantiated, Tinubu given his stand in the society just like many big men routinely supports his community and the needy financially 2. Tinubu is trying t kill opponent. Answer : I am not from Lagos I am from the North and depend on people on ground for Lagos updates, After getting close to Tinubu I realized he is the kindest leader, a honest and hardworking one who prioritizes the countries affair, He is not a vindictive person as we have seen many previous opponents come into his fold and see him for who he really is and not what the media claimed him to be. We have had vindictive leaders in this country like OBJ and we know Tinubu is cut from a different cloth Note: I came up with these defence on the spot while typing |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:41pm On Mar 06 |
izzou:Insecurity is difficult to defend, You can play around with economic number, there are many international organization that is scoring this admin high on some economic indices , You pick those ones and hammer on them, You hammer on debt reduction No one will show you the videos from Gworza today and you can say anything to defend at least not me without looking like an idiot. Saying people always die is a terrible response They think its Twitter banger boying |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by livelongprospa: 9:42pm On Mar 06 |
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 9:46pm On Mar 06 |
izzou:Lai Mohamed was better than all these Bwala and Seyilaw.. Its not hard to get metrics that support the govt policies and talk about it Go and see when Israel vs Gaza dey hot and Piers Morgan dey grill both sides. This is a job that pays them very well, They are inner caucus people who are privy to things govt is doing Why cant they research and articulate it if not for laziness |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:01pm On Mar 06 |
I prefer his answers to this where he pointed Mehdi back to US and UK leaders Mehdis answer was he doesnt support Trump, then route him to Bidens corruption at least he supported Biden
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by livelongprospa: 10:11pm On Mar 06 |
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:13pm On Mar 06 |
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 10:13pm On Mar 06 |
raumdeuter:The problem with all these things is that he said them confidently as an opposition member. There is no way he won't look bad, not possible. On Tinubu having militia to kill opponents he said Tinubu threatened him personally, when Mehdi asked him about it he said he denied ever saying it. ![]() Just watch the dull video, its even way worse than the snippets, Mehdi even asked him about Tinubu's date of birth ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygdNgnTzl6A?si=Ws_l3AlXS42LGfoz |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 10:16pm On Mar 06 |
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 10:18pm On Mar 06 |
raumdeuter:I can tell you it's very hard. These people are not dumb, problem is you can't defend Tinubu on national or international stage like that and not look dumb and dishonest. This one no be Nairaland amala. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by livelongprospa: 10:35pm On Mar 06 |
Ellexy:This was me
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by semid4lyfe(m): 10:38pm On Mar 06 |
Segedinho:Daniel Bwala wasn't flustered or agitated at any point in the interview. He was calm, composed, genial and conceded a few points. He even launched some offensive salvos using Keir Starmer and Donald Trump to draw comparison and push back at Mehdi Hassan. He emphasized that context matters for a lot of the things he said in the past. He disputed some data and figures that Mehdi Hassan was reeling out. I could go on and on. Again, considering how difficult it is to defend PBAT , I think Daniel Bwala did okay. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by patrickmuf(m): 10:42pm On Mar 06 |
livelongprospa:Bwala just disgraced himself and the administration. I am sure that guy, Ajuri, who resigned, would've done much better. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:45pm On Mar 06 |
Ellexy:He said them confidently because he depended on peoples report not his personal dealings Mehdi within the first 5mins already made a false statement that govt is more likely to hit civilians and not terrorists That is an easy position to attack |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:48pm On Mar 06 |
semid4lyfe:He was actually confused and even began to laugh. Mehdi had to caution him for laughing. When he was asked about Bagudu; a man who returned $163 million and is now a Minister of Budget, he was laughing. You cannot be representing a country and be laughing when they are throwing rocks and shades at you. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:49pm On Mar 06 |
Ellexy:There are several economic metric to show. Point to the debts, the less amount that is spent on subsidy , Mehdi - Does your country only spring into action when external countries complain? That is also another point to show what Nigerian govt has done before Trump spoke Which means Mehdi is reading slanted news |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:50pm On Mar 06 |
patrickmuf:Thank you. There's nothing brilliant about this at all. The guy had data. Why not use data to buttress your own point? Kept on smiling unnecessarily |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:52pm On Mar 06 |
izzou:He could have done without the laughing He actually made good points by pointing out the people in Trump and Starmer that were corrupt which Mehdi only said he didnt support Trump Then press Mehdi the Biden you support was also corrupt |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by killsmith(f): 11:04pm On Mar 06 |
izzou:That guy was grilled. The smile was a coping mechanism. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 11:05pm On Mar 06 |
The lady questioning him was talking off point and Daniel tackled her properly that she wants to believe western media when they say something bad about Nigeria but want to disbelieve the same western media That is disingenuous and intellectually dishonest |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 11:19pm On Mar 06 |
semid4lyfe:The biggest gaffes were when they used his previous words against him which he could have explained away that he did not know Tinubu closely I just watched the entire clip not the twitter snippets. Surely the Twitter snippets were the worst of Bwala, Overall I think Bwala did fairly well The lady Aisha was the worst questioner, She is claiming that Tinubu is turning Nigeria to a 1 party state, what is her evidence that it was Tinubu that made them to decamp |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:26pm On Mar 06 |
killsmith:This guy spoke my mind. A Media adviser should know who he is up against, not casually rocking the chair like person wey wan come collect Chieftaincy title
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| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 11:31pm On Mar 06 |
izzou:Watching the whole thing, It wasnt as bad as I initially thought from those snippets Like I said, Daniel didnt have to deny, just say you have new information now and every rational human change their opinion based on new info Also Mehdi is a fast talker and trying to match him will do you no good cos Mehdi is reading questions and you have to think of responses Also I give Bwala credit, cos If I tried to keep up with Mehdi's speech speed I will likely start stuttering, Bwala didnt which is a positive |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:34pm On Mar 06 |
raumdeuter:Na people like you dey make these people mediocre day by day Even Tuggar that was grilled was not bad. Daniel didn't have any rebuttal for most of what he was asked by Mehdi. At some point, he said Amnesty doesn't say anything good. Just beer parlor defense tactics This is a Media and Publicity figure for a country. I can tolerate Seyi being roasted, but someone who cannot even do his job well is something else. Sotey, audience begin laugh. Credit ko, Debit ni |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 11:48pm On Mar 06 |
izzou:It is not as if mehdi is an unknown quantity or as if mehdi is not a known hostile interviewer. This speaks to the mental laziness of people appointed to government roles. Bwala is simply unprepared to be a media aide. It is as simple as that. It is a role where you should be mentally quick on your feet, able to parry and deflect and counter interviewers The guy is just an unfit person in a role dashed to him as jobs for the boys. Even renowanker would likely have done a better job. I wonder what will happen next. |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Sportsweb: 12:47am On Mar 07 |
'Quote it' 'source' 'Date' I'm not aware... 'context matters ' |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:58am On Mar 07 |
izzou:I didnt watch the Tuggar interview. Was it 1v1 or like this Daniel vs Mehdi plus the additional questioner plus the crowd He didnt do bad at all. He did fair If dem put you do you think you would have done better? The question they were able to trip him were when Mehdi was quoting his past comments which he didnt handle well |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 5:19am On Mar 07 |
Lots of sleeper cells Iran will activate after this war eh, I will pray for America and Jewish communities . |
| Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by semid4lyfe(m): 5:56am On Mar 07*. Modified: 7:14am On Mar 07 |
GloriousGbola: izzou:Reno would have been worse. Tuggar was cooked terribly by Piers Morgan and that Canadian lady on Piers Morgan Uncensored so tey he became belligerent and started shouting . Bayo Onanuga, Ajuri Ngelale would have been a mismatch. They speak in hesitant, halting manner using lots of fillers. Ditto for Lai Mohammed and Garba Shehu of PMB govt. Also, these peeps wouldn't have been able to cope with the fast-paced rapid question style of Mehdi. Like G.Gbola said, Mehdi is a known hostile interviewer and the whole idea of the show is to put guests under pressure with uncomfortable questions. Make una no dey underestimate how difficult this kinda interview setting is. You sit across someone whose job is to grill you, interrupt, twist your words, and keep pushing until you slip. The audience of the show already leans skeptical, so you are in unfriendly territory in the first place. Most Nigerian government spokesmen are used to local press briefings where journalists allow long answers and soft landings. That setting differs from a rapid-fire studio interview like Head to Head where Mehdi controls the pace and keeps cutting you off. So judging DB's outing as if the goal was to win the interviewer no be am. The goal is simple. Hold your ground, avoid major blunders, and launder and pass across your government's talking points to an international audience. The only place Daniel Bwala struggled was his past statements on Bola Ahmed Tinubu, and Mehdi kept going back to those old utterances. That angle boxed him in because he had to spend time explaining the turnaround instead of focusing fully on defending government policy. Apart from that, he stayed in the seat, kept a friendly genial disposition, answered most of the questions, deflected and parried a few, disputed some figures and data, fired a few salvos at Mehdi and did not melt down under pressure. On a program like Head to Head, that already counts for something. I rest my fingers. |
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