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Could the vessels with which the wine and food were served have been the deterrent, as Daniel later recounts in Book of Daniel 5:1–4? It is possible that Daniel, either through a vision of future events or through knowledge of an existing practice in the king’s court, understood that the sacred vessels taken from the temple in Jerusalem were being used to serve food and drink. By using these holy vessels for ordinary feasting, they were profaned. Thus, by partaking in such a setting, one might symbolically defile oneself—sitting, as it were, “in the seat of the scornful,” and joining in the mockery of the God of Israel.

In First Epistle to the Corinthians 8:8–9, the Apostle writes: “But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.”

Could it therefore be that, as the Apostle teaches in this passage, the issue is not the food itself? Rather, defilement and sin against Christ arise when one fails to consider the conscience of those with “little knowledge” within the household of Israel, and thus causes them to stumble.

(The one's with little knowledge were the captive little Hebrew children in the King's court)

- my response to my friend - 6.3.26 - He taught that Daniel's rejection of the King's provision had to do with the type of food, effect of the food on body, and overall effect on their faith.

Daniel bwala didn't reject it.. See how he got embarrassed globally..

The Bible is clear..

Daniel purposed in his heart (determined) not to defile himself, showing a firm commitment to his faith despite the risk.

The Test: Daniel requested a 10-day trial of vegetables and water instead of the king's diet.

Result: After 10 days, Daniel and his friends appeared healthier, stronger, and better nourished than those consuming the royal food.

Outcome: The steward allowed them to continue their diet, and God blessed them with knowledge and wisdom, with Daniel standing out among all the king's advisors.

Their refusal was a public act of faith, choosing obedience to God over compromising their beliefs for favor or luxury

King's meats are sacrificed to false gods and they were forbidden

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Their refusal was a public act of faith, choosing obedience to God over compromising their beliefs for favor or luxury

I'd say it was a public act of reverence, and consideration for those who didn't have a voice.

femi4:
King's meats are sacrificed to false gods and they were forbidden

Have you read the epistles messages regarding food offered to idols, what do you think? (1 Corinthians 8, 9 and 10; and Romans 14)

Acehart:
Have you read the epistles messages regarding food offered to idols, what do you think? (1 Corinthians 8, 9 and 10; and Romans 14)

In Daniel's era, they were under mosaic laws...it was forbidden. Don't quote me out of context

I like this chapter alot

Daniel shows discipline & discernment.

Daniel Bwahala after yabbing the king finally eat from his table

femi4:
In Daniel's era, they were under mosaic laws...it was forbidden. Don't quote me out of context

Daniel slight disagrees with you: He was under two laws as he recounts in Daniel 9:11 -

Indeed all Israel has transgressed Your law and turned aside, not obeying Your voice; so the curse has been poured out on us, along with the oath which is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, for we have sinned against Him.

I think you have a misunderstanding: Daniel did not act by the Law of Moses. Up there you see Daniel showing us that Israel was under two laws: The Law of God, and The Law of Moses.

Don't you know the Law of Moses doesn't touch the human conscience because of it was written by a man; it's nature is temporary, supplementary, ceremonial and time bound? It is the Law of God, Apostle Paul calls the "Spirit", he used in appealing to you conscience and mine.

Acehart:
Daniel slight disagrees with you: He was under two laws as he recounts in Daniel 9:11 -

Indeed all Israel has transgressed Your law and turned aside, not obeying Your voice; so the curse has been poured out on us, along with the oath which is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, for we have sinned against Him.

I think you have a misunderstanding: Daniel did not act by the Law of Moses. Up there you see Daniel showing us that Israel was under two laws: The Law of God, and The Law of Moses.

Don't you know the Law of Moses doesn't touch the human conscience because of it was written by a man; it's nature is temporary, supplementary, ceremonial and time bound? It is the Law of God, Apostle Paul calls the "Spirit", he used in appealing to you conscience and mine.

Your response is based on ignorance

Laws in the old testament are generally referred to as mosaic law not moses law

Daniel simply avoided to make merry with those that didn't honour his God

femi4:
Your response is based on ignorance

Laws in the old testament are generally referred to as mosaic law not moses law

Thank you sir. What church do you attend?

not only foods nourish the body
but grace of God! keep the flesh fresh and smooths

Acehart:
Thank you sir. What church do you attend?

I don't do church..they are all full of man made doctrines

femi4:
I don't do church..they are all full of man made doctrines

Before you stopped, which one did you attend or grow up in?

Daniels narrative had nothing to do with physical drinking and eating vessels. Yes, at the time his decision was based on the Mosaic law that forbade Jews eating and drinking certain things (now irrelevant under the New Testament of CHRIST), but there is a deeper spiritual significance.

The king's meat and wine are symbolic and represent the philosophies, religion, fashions, and world view of Babylon and it's king, also a symbol, meaning the devil and the world.
Matthew 9:17, Mark 2:22, and Luke 5:37-38 In these scriptures we see the symbolism demonstrated to equate wine with teachings or beliefs. Same way The LORD JESUS talked about HIS body being bread and his blood drink or wine. Then HE clarified in John 6 that bread/meat were symbolic of HIS body, but were also the words HE was speaking to them. Also read Matthew 26:27-28 where HE literally called HIS Blood wine. Remember HE is The WORD incarnate.

newoffer:
Daniel Bwahala after yabbing the king finally eat from his table

sureway1:
Daniel bwala didn't reject it.. See how he got embarrassed globally..
The Bible is clear..

Una wicked of see as LWKMD
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This ignorance still happens till this day. My customer sponsored the burial of his father in-law. Kinsmen demanded for cow before the burial can hold. He gave it to them. He killed more cows for my burial. Shortly afterwards, he had strange sickness. He was told he didn't do same for his own father. He died later. Same happened to another of my friends. Avoid eating at burial especially when you don't know who the animals were dedicated to. If u're a strong Christian, avoid those kinsmen demand for blood sacrifice. If u're not then ask someone else to give them then refund the person. Don't ever use your hand or direct money to buy those items. Be warned.

femi4:
Your response is based on ignorance

Laws in the old testament are generally referred to as mosaic law not moses law

Why should there be old testament and who wrote it?

ALFADOS:
Why should there be old testament and who wrote it?

It was written by many writers

We have old testaments cos God operate with man in different ways. No one rule fits all

femi4:
It was written by many writers

We have old testaments cos God operate with man in different ways. No one rule fits all

And those writer are they not with the messenger of God the time the testament was written or put it together on their own?

ALFADOS:
And those writer are they not with the messenger of God the time the testament was written or put it together on their own?

They did

What are you confuse about? Go straight to the point

femi4:
They did

What are you confuse about? Go straight to the point

they did what exactly, I'm not confused about anything

ALFADOS:
they did what exactly, I'm not confused about anything

And those writer are they not with the messenger of God the time the testament was written or put it together on their own?

Written n put together

femi4:
And those writer are they not with the messenger of God the time the testament was written or put it together on their own?

Written n put together

you didn't answer my question, either with the messenger or not that's what I want to know

ALFADOS:
you didn't answer my question, either with the messenger or not that's what I want to know

It is both
Nothing like or

femi4:
It is both
Nothing like or

you are confused set of creature

femi4:
It is both
Nothing like or

that's why it's rejected and wrote the new testament then?

ALFADOS:
that's why it's rejected and wrote the new testament then?

Ignorance
You don't even understand the topic you want to argue about

Was Arise o compartriot rejected to accept Nig we hail thee by Nigerians

U cannot be associated with crook and not be hooked..

sterlingD:
Una wicked of see as LWKMD
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