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Ellexy:
That is why leadership is different. The Iranians have been a torn in America's flesh since their Islamic revolution. They've killed thousands of US soldiers, bombed their embassies, attacked their vessels and is in state of permanent war against the US. They consider US as there greatest enemy and chant death to America everyday in there parliament.

Whether the civilians feel it or not, leadership has to act to bring an end to this Iranian threat once and die all. That is why I said what I said. It's because they have it good that is why they're pushing all manner of woke ideology. If hunger don hold you, you would have the mouth to pushing trans ideology and all manner of thrash.

@ the bolded, which year did Iran bomb US Embassy?

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
@ the bolded, which year did Iran bomb US Embassy?

wait till ellexy who does not know history learns about Iran Contra

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair

The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ماجرای ایران-کنترا; Spanish: Caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as the Iran–Contra scandal, the Contragate, Iran Initiative, or simply Iran–Contra, was a political scandal in the United States that centered on arms trafficking to Iran between 1981 and 1986, facilitated by senior officials of the Reagan administration.[1] The administration hoped to use the proceeds of the arms sale to fund the Contras, an anti-Sandinista rebel group in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendments, a series of laws passed by Congress and signed by Ronald Reagan, further funding of the Contras by legislative appropriations was prohibited by Congress, but the Reagan administration continued funding them secretly using non-appropriated funds.[2]

The administration's justification for the arms shipments was that they were part of an attempt to free seven U.S. hostages being held in Lebanon by Hezbollah, an Islamist paramilitary group connected to Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.[3] The idea to exchange arms for hostages was proposed by Manucher Ghorbanifar, an expatriate Iranian arms dealer.[4][5][6] Some within the Reagan administration hoped the sales would influence Iran to get Hezbollah to release the hostages.[7]

After the Lebanese Magazine Ash-Shiraa reported on the weapon dealings in November 1986, it broke international news, prompting Reagan to appear on national television. He claimed that while the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, the U.S. did not trade arms for hostages.[8] The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the affair were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.[9] In March 1987, Reagan made a further nationally televised address, saying he was taking full responsibility for the affair and stating that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages."[10]

this has always been the style of his warmongering conservative heroes. bluster in the front - back door deals in the back

GloriousGbola:
the last time the us had a balanced budget was when Bill clinton was president

maybe the hard men can tell us what benefit came out of invading iraq and afghanistan. is the world now safer then it was in 2001?

trump made noise, did a shock and awe show on xmas day - all he has succeeded in doing is upping the ante. attacks on nigeria by islamist terrorists have been ramped up. ironically, this may be his administration's goal - attack draw islamist like a moth to a flame, and sit back and watch the chaos until nigeria agrees to have us base on its soil

all this while iran has been facing isreal - now everyone dey collect. is teh world safer after this exercise?

So you think Afghanistan should be left alone after 9-11

GloriousGbola:
since you celebrate trump so much you definitely have enough videos and clips of him denouncing war actions on iran

you clearly are lying to yourself about trump being against wars - but that is how you do. is it not trump who said cuba is next?

Finally, america/isreal will not win any war without boots on the ground. the problem with your hero trump is he thinks this is a movie where you are done in 24 hours. the success with maduro also went to his head. he has surrounded himself with incompetent posturing cosplaying sycopants who will tell him what he wants to hear - that the almighty us can do whatever it wants and everyone else will fold like a pack of cards

the iranians have been preparing for this for decades. and all trump has really achieved with his bombing campaign is to harden the resolve of the average citizen.

but lets watch and see.

You probably thought the Venezuela strike too were going to fail and now we have US Venezuela normalized relationship for the first time in 8yrs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EI7nmmJe4Y?si=vNk_Y9qvvO3KCX04

BlueRayDick this is a long one

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
@ the bolded, which year did Iran bomb US Embassy?

Here you go
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/06/19/iranian-and-iranian-backed-attacks-against-americans-1979-present/

LordAdam16:
no b nukes you dey advocate for so

after only 11 days of war

use nukes na
iran is in between russia and pakistan
i'm sure both nuclear powers will love the radiation fallout

y'all seem to forget that when the us nuked japan, there was no other nuclear power
the us nuked hiroshima and nagasaki in 1945, the soviet union acquired a nuke in 1949

-Lord

Advocating for nukes? Where? The irony is if Iran has nuclear weapons they would have used it against Israel and America and you guys would cheer for them for doing it.

Ellexy:
Here you go
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/06/19/iranian-and-iranian-backed-attacks-against-americans-1979-present/

They said Iranian backed attack against America. They didn't say Iran bombed US embassy. Maybe u can highlight it for me.

Proxy war is normal, are you saying that US is killing Russian general, bombing Russian oil tankers after all they're backing Ukraine?

Ellexy:
Advocating for nukes? Where? The irony is if Iran has nuclear weapons they would have used it against Israel and America and you guys would cheer for them for doing it.

Ellexy:
He has said this evening that they'll continue to bomb Iran till they surrender. Let's see if ideology surrenders to weapons of mass destruction.

what did you mean by weapons of mass destruction?

-Lord

I hope sarki wassaping won't say Peter Obi arrested him. I go like see how he defend his arrest

GloriousGbola:
since you celebrate trump so much you definitely have enough videos and clips of him denouncing war actions on iran

you clearly are lying to yourself about trump being against wars - but that is how you do. is it not trump who said cuba is next?

Finally, america/isreal will not win any war without boots on the ground. the problem with your hero trump is he thinks this is a movie where you are done in 24 hours. the success with maduro also went to his head. he has surrounded himself with incompetent posturing cosplaying sycopants who will tell him what he wants to hear - that the almighty us can do whatever it wants and everyone else will fold like a pack of cards

the iranians have been preparing for this for decades. and all trump has really achieved with his bombing campaign is to harden the resolve of the average citizen.

but lets watch and see.

Trump Trump Trump trump you probably have Trump derangement syndrome. There's nothing he does you won't condemn or find fault with. He said he'll deal with the Iranian threat once and for all and that is what he is doing and Iran is finding out.

Like Venezuela like Cuba, no war. Just an effective military operation in their backyard unlike Iran in the Middle East.

If this is the response of Iran who has been preparing for this war for years then they are not serious. How can your enemies control your entire airspace in day one, kill all your supreme leader, the entire leadership and military chain of command, turn your navy ships to submarine. They never see anything. Since they want to die for jihad, I'm sure America and Israel are willing to help them quickly to reach paradise.

LordAdam16:
what did you mean by weapons of mass destruction?

-Lord

My bad, I didn't mean nuclear bomb when I said that, just the current wave of bombings going on.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
They said Iranian backed attack against America. They didn't say Iran bombed US embassy. Maybe u can highlight it for me.

Proxy war is normal, are you saying that US is killing Russian general, bombing Russian oil tankers after all they're backing Ukraine?

If I send an assassin to kill your brother, who will you hold responsible?

Ellexy:
If I send an assassin to kill your brother, who will you hold responsible?

Highlights where the Iranian back militia bombed US embassy? Is that too difficult for you?

raumdeuter:
You probably thought the Venezuela strike too were going to fail and now we have US Venezuela normalized relationship for the first time in 8yrs

it is very sad and shameful that you consider abducting a sovereign nations president after a lot of false pretenses because you want access to their resources as a normalized relationship

so,if the us decides tomorrow to also make up a story and seize tinubu sop they can have a normalized relationship with access to our rare earth minerals it will be just fine, right?

maybe we should make the us the president of the world and all other nations are just vassal states

somehow, 30 years of cold war history has passed you by

"From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh" Ellexy what's Weapon of Mass Destruction, if not going nuclear?

Ellexy:
Trump Trump Trump trump you probably have Trump derangement syndrome. There's nothing he does you won't condemn or find fault with. He said he'll deal with the Iranian threat once and for all and that is what he is doing and Iran is finding out.

Like Venezuela like Cuba, no war. Just an effective military operation in their backyard unlike Iran in the Middle East.

If this is the response of Iran who has been preparing for this war for years then they are not serious. How can your enemies control your entire airspace in day one, kill all your supreme leader, the entire leadership and military chain of command, turn your navy ships to submarine. They never see anything. Since they want to die for jihad, I'm sure America and Israel are willing to help them quickly to reach paradise.

since you refuse to learn from history, you look at conventional warfare operations as a success. the us also had air superiority in vietnam. did they win? you should be asking yourself why iran has not surrendered since all it takes is a bombing campaign.

conventional warfare and bombing campaign did not win in vietnam, it did not win in afghanistan, and it is not winning in iran

that is why you are egging your hero on to commit genocide by deploying nuclear weapons, because you are too slow to understand it is a line people refused to cross throughout the cold war

raumdeuter:
So you think Afghanistan should be left alone after 9-11

lets take your logic - there were no afghans involved in 911. so why invade afghanistan?



https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CPRT-111SPRT53709/html/CPRT-111SPRT53709.htm

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CPRT-111SPRT53709/html/CPRT-111SPRT53709.htm

bin laden was cornered in Tora Bora in 2001. all they had to do was flush him out and they would have killed him. instead the us invaded afghanistan

after invading afghantistan, bin laden was found in pakistan - an 'ally' of the us. going by your logic the us should have attacked pakistan for this

the us spent 20 years in afghanistan and failed to achieve any objective, much like in vietnam - much like they are doing right now in iran

but it makes more sense to spend trillions on foolish wars that achieve absolutely nothing but make more enemies for the us

great logic there

GloriousGbola:
lets take your logic - there were no afghans involved in 911. so why invade afghanistan?



https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CPRT-111SPRT53709/html/CPRT-111SPRT53709.htm

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CPRT-111SPRT53709/html/CPRT-111SPRT53709.htm

bin laden was cornered in Tora Bora in 2001. all they had to do was flush him out and they would have killed him. instead the us invaded afghanistan

after invading afghantistan, bin laden was found in pakistan - an 'ally' of the us. going by your logic the us should have attacked pakistan for this

the us spent 20 years in afghanistan and failed to achieve any objective, much like in vietnam - much like they are doing right now in iran

but it makes more sense to spend trillions on foolish wars that achieve absolutely nothing but make more enemies for the us

great logic there

Afghanistan was providing cover for them
It doesnt matter the country they are from what matters is who was supporting and protecting them

The govt of Pakistan was in full Cooperation with US in the chase of Bin Laden unlike Afghanistan who hid him with govt approval

GloriousGbola:
it is very sad and shameful that you consider abducting a sovereign nations president after a lot of false pretenses because you want access to their resources as a normalized relationship

so,if the us decides tomorrow to also make up a story and seize tinubu sop they can have a normalized relationship with access to our rare earth minerals it will be just fine, right?

maybe we should make the us the president of the world and all other nations are just vassal states

somehow, 30 years of cold war history has passed you by

The US president is the number 1 man in the world as they are the lone superpower whether you like it or not

The US will protect its standing as the lone superpower and any aggression into the western hemisphere would be rejected

If Venezuela tries to cozy up to Russia and China, US will flex its muscle to enforce its will

The US can pick up Tinubu if they want. They have done this before and can do this again

That was why Tinubu behaved himself and cooperated to allow US come in and help

He could have done some Maduro grand standing and would be perp walked like Maduro

raumdeuter:
Afghanistan was providing cover for them
It doesnt matter the country they are from what matters is who was supporting and protecting them

The govt of Pakistan was in full Cooperation with US in the chase of Bin Laden unlike Afghanistan who hid him with govt approval

this is why you right wingers are desperate to sieze control of all news and media - so you can change history that we all lived through

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Osama_bin_Laden

On May 2,[a] 2011, the United States conducted Operation Neptune Spear, in which SEAL Team Six shot and killed Osama bin Laden at his "Waziristan Haveli" in Abbottabad, Pakistan.[1] Bin Laden, who founded al-Qaeda and orchestrated the September 11 attacks, had been the subject of a United States military manhunt since the beginning of the war in Afghanistan, but escaped to Pakistan—allegedly with Pakistani support—during or after the Battle of Tora Bora in December 2001. The mission was part of an effort led by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), with the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) coordinating the special mission units involved in the raid. In addition to SEAL Team Six, participating units under JSOC included the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne) and the CIA's Special Activities Division, which recruits heavily from among former JSOC Special Mission Units.[2][3]

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/pakistans-osama-bin-laden-report-was-pakistan-clueless-or-complicit-in-harboring-bin-laden/

No Evidence For Complicity

The Pakistani commission closely examined the construction of the safehouse from 2003 on. It discovered that it was the result of “a whole series of illegal and irregular transactions based on false documents and false identities” that should have attracted the attention of local authorities and ISI. The commission is justly mystified that “the entire neighbourhood, local officials, police and security and intelligence officials all missed the size, the strange shape, the barbed wire, the lack of cars and visitors, etc etc, over a period of six years,” an incompetence that “beggars belief”. It does not rule out complicity by some ISI elements but says it was unable to find any hard evidence.

The commission concludes al Qaeda practised good tradecraft in concealing its leader’s hideout for six years. But bin Laden could not hide without a support network beyond al Kuwaiti and his brother. Phone numbers found in the house by the SEAL team suggest al Kuwaiti was in touch with a terrorist group, which, as laid out in The New York Times in a June 2011 report, was Harkat ul Mujahideen, with whom bin Laden had worked since at least the late 1990s. It was created in the 1980s by ISI to fight India, and has loyally worked with it for decades. Its leader, Fazlur Rehman Khalil, lives openly in an Islamabad suburb.

bin laden was in pakistan for six years. the fact that the US chose not to carry along anyone in pakistan during his killing should tell you everything you need to know.

GloriousGbola:
this is why you right wingers are desperate to sieze control of all news and media - so you can change history that we all lived through

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Osama_bin_Laden

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/pakistans-osama-bin-laden-report-was-pakistan-clueless-or-complicit-in-harboring-bin-laden/
bin laden was in pakistan for six years. the fact that the US chose not to carry along anyone in pakistan during his killing should tell you everything you need to know.

This is from the Pakistani leader

As questions mount about Pakistan’s relationship with the U.S. in the war on terror, the Pakistani president acknowledged that his government was not involved in the mission to kill Osama bin Laden. But “Pakistan did its part,” Asif Ali Zardari writes in an op-ed in The Washington Post on Tuesday.

Though the Sunday raid on bin Laden’s Abbottabad mansion was “not a joint operation, a decade of cooperation and partnership between the United States and Pakistan led … to the elimination of Osama bin Laden as a continuing threat to the civilized world,” Zardari wrote.

https://www.politico.com/story/2011/05/pakistan-did-its-part-zardari-says-054169

raumdeuter:
The US president is the number 1 man in the world as they are the lone superpower whether you like it or not

The US will protect its standing as the lone superpower and any aggression into the western hemisphere would be rejected

If Venezuela tries to cozy up to Russia and China, US will flex its muscle to enforce its will

The US can pick up Tinubu if they want. They have done this before and can do this again

That was why Tinubu behaved himself and cooperated to allow US come in and help

He could have done some Maduro grand standing and would be perp walked like Maduro

And this is what you are defending. a bully taking away your nations right to self determination. we may as well go back to the berlin conference and let larger nations take us over and turn us into second class citizens in our own country. a large number of the structural issues in nigeria go back to colonialism - as an example the function of the police a not law and order, but to be security for the rulers while keeping the natives in check. and so in nigeria today, everyone who is not a political leader is a second class citizen.

you talk about being bullied by cultists in school, but fail to realize that this is the exact same thing you are celebrating - a world where the strong chance and bully the weak.

Over the years, I’ve repeatedly made clear that we would take action within Pakistan if we knew where bin Laden was. That is what we’ve done. But[b] it’s important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding[/b]. Indeed, bin Laden had declared war against Pakistan as well, and ordered attacks against the Pakistani people.

Tonight, I called President Zardari, and my team has also spoken with their Pakistani counterparts. They agree that this is a good and historic day for both of our nations. And going forward, it is essential that Pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al Qaeda and its affiliates.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-dead#:~:text=Over%20the%20years%2C%20I've,al%20Qaeda%20and%20its%20affiliates.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Highlights where the Iranian back militia bombed US embassy? Is that too difficult for you?

Again here you go....

Amoto94:
"From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh" Ellexy what's Weapon of Mass Destruction, if not going nuclear?

I chuckle anytime I see you coming at me

GloriousGbola:
And this is what you are defending. a bully taking away your nations right to self determination. we may as well go back to the berlin conference and let larger nations take us over and turn us into second class citizens in our own country. a large number of the structural issues in nigeria go back to colonialism - as an example the function of the police a not law and order, but to be security for the rulers while keeping the natives in check. and so in nigeria today, everyone who is not a political leader is a second class citizen.

you talk about being bullied by cultists in school, but fail to realize that this is the exact same thing you are celebrating - a world where the strong chance and bully the weak.

You say it the way you want it to be, I say it the way it is

Stronger people nations determine the future, whether you like it or not. Whether its 2000 yrs ago or 2000yrs from now

If its not USA, it will be another super power

The best you can pray for is to be allied with the powerful.

If you dont want US dominance, try Russian or China and see

raumdeuter:
This is from the Pakistani leader



https://www.politico.com/story/2011/05/pakistan-did-its-part-zardari-says-054169

As questions mount about Pakistan’s relationship with the U.S. in the war on terror, the Pakistani president acknowledged that h[b]is government was not involved in the mission to kill Osama bin Laden[/b]. But “Pakistan did its part,” Asif Ali Zardari writes in an op-ed in The Washington Post on Tuesday.

the us did not invole pakistan who
https://pk.usembassy.gov/u-s-assistance-to-pakistan/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_aid_to_Pakistan

these are the billions the US provided in military aid to pakistan - and yet they did not trust them enough to involve them in the hunt for bin laden. the entire process of finding bin laden was conducted without any pakistani support. if you want to believe ISI was not aware of
UBL's location , and the the CIA was not aware that ISI was aware of UBL's location, be my guest.

GloriousGbola:
the us did not invole pakistan who
https://pk.usembassy.gov/u-s-assistance-to-pakistan/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_aid_to_Pakistan

these are the billions the US provided in military aid to pakistan - and yet they did not trust them enough to involve them in the hunt for bin laden. the entire process of finding bin laden was conducted without any pakistani support. if you want to believe ISI was not aware of
UBL's location , and the the CIA was not aware that ISI was aware of UBL's location, be my guest.

When its mission critical you do not tell anyone, even Obama did not tell American senators before he struck, Same with Trump

Obama confirmed Pakistan helped, Pakistan confirmed they helped.

So what source should we believe that they did not?

This is the regime GloriousGbola and co are defending....

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