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Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:20pm On Mar 10
FxMasterz:
Should my sincere understanding of Scripture be rejected if I'm in a quest to absolutely align with the Bible?
Should I be lost in my bid to be absolutely correct with God instead of man?
The truth is each of you wants to stand on his personal resolution after you've read the Bible that is what led to many teachers contradicting themselves.
God is not wicked so He warned us not to really on our own understanding {Proverbs 3:5} but to study with others before concluding on what the scripture is teaching. Act 8:31
God is not for disorder {1Corinthans 14:33} that is why Jesus prayed that we have the same line of thought {John 17:22} that can't be possible if everyone wants to be his own personal teacher of God's word.
So there are two qualities that will help us:

HUMILITY and RIGHTEOUSNESS! Zephaniah 2:2-3

Humility in the sense that we should be willing to yield as we see our fellow believers agree upon the interpretation of scriptures when their interpretation is producing fine fruit but when we insist that God must talk to each of us personally then humility is no longer their because that means there shouldn't be teachers among Christians after all everyone can learn from God directly.
Now this how God will judge such individuals:
If you're not willing to be boy boy for anyone it's OK but then you shouldn't expect anyone to be boy boy under you, you should welcome everyone as independent teachers of God's word who don't need you to teach them but once you disagree with that idea then what you are judging them for will come back to you! Matthew 7:1-4

The only human whose teacher we can not see is Jesus but he keeps telling us that there is someone who is teaching him so all glory and honor goes to that person. John 5:30

It's Satan who doesn't want to be boy boy for anyone not even for his Creator that's why Jesus said Satan fabricates everything by himself as his own teacher {John 8:44} but he has many followers having the same attitude like him they are never ready to be boy boy for anyone yet they want others to be their boy boy!🙂
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 10:29pm On Mar 10
MaxInDHouse:
The truth is each of you wants to stand on his personal resolution after you've read the Bible that is what led to many teachers contradicting themselves.
God is not wicked so He warned us not to really on our own understanding {Proverbs 3:5} but to study with others before concluding on what the scripture is teaching. Act 8:31
God is not for disorder {1Corinthans 14:33} that is why Jesus prayed that we have the same line of thought {John 17:22} that can't be possible if everyone wants to be his own personal teacher of God's word.
So there are two qualities that will help us:

HUMILITY and RIGHTEOUSNESS! Zephaniah 2:2-3

Humility in the sense that we should be willing to yield as we see our fellow believers agree upon the interpretation of scriptures when their interpretation is producing fine fruit but when we insist that God must talk to each of us personally then humility is no longer their because that means there shouldn't be teachers among Christians after all everyone can learn from God directly.
Now this how God will judge such individuals:
If you're not willing to be boy boy for anyone it's OK but then you shouldn't expect anyone to be boy boy under you, you should welcome everyone as independent teachers of God's word who don't need you to teach them but once you disagree with that idea then what you are judging them for will come back to you! Matthew 7:1-4

The only human whose teacher we can not see is Jesus but he keeps telling us that there is someone who is teaching him so all glory and honor goes to that person. John 5:30

It's Satan who doesn't want to be boy boy for anyone not even for his Creator that's why Jesus said Satan fabricates everything by himself as his own teacher {John 8:44} but he has many followers having the same attitude like him they are never ready to be boy boy for anyone yet they want others to be their boy boy!🙂
Nobody is saying you should not study with others. But even when studying with others, be a Berean. The Bereans didn't believe Paul until they search the scriptures themselves with all sincerity. Eventually, they followed Christ and their faith grew.

The Pharisees also had their own gatherings and doctrines. They held on to their doctrunes without searching the Scriptures like the Bereans did. They missed Christ.

Be a Berean. Otherwise, you'll follow lied religiously while missing Christ.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 10:34pm On Mar 10
Truthseeker10:
You already claim to have concrete absolutely agreement with the word of God. By virtue of your statement below, You claim that others who are in contradiction with you on the identity of Christ will also be saved.

"Any decision you make, you'll be saved as long as it's a sincere decision based on your understanding of what you studied."
Because I'm not the yardstick for anybody's salvation.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:36am On Mar 11
So who are those studying the Bible with you?
The Bereans were formerly Judaists but they were not satisfied with miracles as the Thessalonians quickly jumped at the Apostle after seeing them perform supernatural acts so they already believe in the scriptures before Paul explained more accurately to them they wouldn't have searched what they are not used to.
FxMasterz:
Nobody is saying you should not study with others. But even when studying with others, be a Berean. The Bereans didn't believe Paul until they search the scriptures themselves with all sincerity. Eventually, they followed Christ and their faith grew.
FxMasterz:
The Pharisees also had their own gatherings and doctrines. They held on to their doctrunes without searching the Scriptures like the Bereans did. They missed Christ.
Be a Berean. Otherwise, you'll follow lied religiously while missing Christ.
Pharisees can be likened to what we call theology schools today as each of them has students under their schools that is why the Bible mentioned the name of Paul's Rabbinic teacher "Gamalliel" {Act 22:3; 5:34} all of them teaching something similar yet there are sharp differences leading to many contradictions among them just as you have it in Christendom Churches today but they all agree on the Trinity one way or another claiming Jesus is God Almighty.
So in the face of confusion like this how can one be like a Beroean?
You have to search the scriptures to see if those teaching you are fulfilling what God promised in the scriptures since there is a purpose for which God gathered worshipers for Himself {Matthew 28:19 compare to Isaiah 43:9} any group that's meeting up with such a fulfillment is God's organization that's what the Beroeans did not just criticizing here and there.
Moreover note that they are Beroeans which means they were a group already learning as students of the scriptures what they searched the scriptures to ascertain is why they are leaving Judaism for the teachings of the Apostles!
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 11:06am On Mar 11
FxMasterz:
Because I'm not the yardstick for anybody's salvation.
Says a man who claims to have absolutely concrete agreement with the word of God and still claims that those who contradict him on the identity of Christ will be saved. You sound confused oga. You need rest.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by sonmvayina(m): 1:29pm On Mar 11
FxMasterz:
I have seen the laws of Hammurabi. They're not in anyway similar to the Torah.
Then you really don't know how to compare......or understand anything.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by sonmvayina(m): 1:52pm On Mar 11
MaxInDHouse:
Just imagine what someone is saying o!🙂
QUESTION:


ANSWER:


And that's sound teaching!🤣
it is God having a human experience that is killing and raping Gods having a human experience......

got it now?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by sonmvayina(m): 1:53pm On Mar 11
Truthseeker10:
Lol....thank you for informing us that your God is responsible for the rape and killing on earth.
i never said that, it is humans who are responsible and humans are Gods spirits having a human experience on earth.

got it now?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by sonmvayina(m): 1:54pm On Mar 11
MaxInDHouse:
Until they are assembled and noticed by everyone you remain a liar!🙂
so you want us to form a cult like the JW?
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:39pm On Mar 11
sonmvayina:
it is God having a human experience that is killing and raping Gods having a human experience......
got it now?
You're making real sense jàre!🤣
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:40pm On Mar 11
sonmvayina:
so you want us to form a cult like the JW?
A cult is a billion times better than your god that's raping and killing itself nah!🤣
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by bobestman(m): 3:13pm On Mar 11
MaxInDHouse:
That's you while i will choose a group whose product is worthwhile globally!🙂
If that your founder is in delusion. You all will inherit and teach same delusion. That is what is happening to you guys today but you will never accept. Let me advise you on something you don't know

What God is interested in is your righteousness. All your religions are just WAYS as written in the bible verse " stand ye not in the ways...but seek the ancient path ...which is the good way. Ways here are just religions, Chrislamjew and others. All have their truth and wrongs. The good Way which iis the ancient path I don't think you will understand - its nothing new but ancient. Many follow the path they feel comfortable. God won't condemn you in whatever path you find cos what he is interested in is the good, righteousness you follow in whatever path you find cos not all know what that ancient path which is the good way is. Just like you know in path so are other religions and ways. Standing on what is right in that path is the goal. You may be Jw, deeper life, rccg, living faith. Another might be Islam why Sonmvayina might be a Jew. Follow the truth in your path for you only know in path. Stop condeming others, claiming you are only the good people, this and that. Just as their are many corrupt people in others so they are in yours. Many people I have met in your church are very bad people. They only use religion as a cloth to cover their lies - pretend.

You don't know God neither do you know what Christ actually taught cos many of his messages were removed after his death by those who killed him. He always spoke against them and their lies but they gave you a book removing what they feel like and that is what we all follow today. That is why Christ teaches that those who are led by the spirit of God are the real sons of God. Not those led by their religious dogmas and doctrines thinking that doing all those is only what they need to know God. You and your church don't know it all so it's for others. You just believe, you don't know. What God seeks is your righteousness. All your religious doctrines and all arguments here are nothing. Go know God yourself and allow hos spirit lead you. You people are here for years stucked in same nonsense every year. Grow up and try and see things beyond what you already know
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:48pm On Mar 11
bobestman:
If that your founder is in delusion.
Exactly what Jesus said about himself!

If the founder of a religion is delusional his followers will be as well too! Matthew 7:16-18

So you are now saying what makes little sense but the irony here is your confused state of mind won't allow you to see the real sense of what you are saying.

God's organization has successfully eradicated the making, buying, selling and using of weapons among millions of her members globally {Isaiah 2:4} and come to think of it these members have come from all the nations of the earth {Isaiah 2:2} which means what they are teaching is effective in all the nations making them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers.

So what better performing organization do you have to offer!😀
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by bobestman(m): 5:18pm On Mar 11
MaxInDHouse:
Exactly what Jesus said about himself!

If the founder of a religion is delusional his followers will be as well too! Matthew 7:16-18

So you are now saying what makes little sense but the irony here is your confused state of mind won't allow you to see the real sense of what you are saying.

God's organization has successfully eradicated the making, buying, selling and using of weapons among millions of her members globally {Isaiah 2:4} and come to think of it these members have come from all the nations of the earth {Isaiah 2:2} which means what they are teaching is effective in all the nations making them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers.

So what better performing organization do you have to offer!😀
This your cock and bull stories that you always attach scriptures to show that the delusion is very strong. They are all church lines used to draw followers to themselves. Rccg, living faith etc all have their lines and will tell you what they actually stand for in the bible that doesn't make them fulfill what is written. But yours is very laughable. Wars happened everyday and yet you ppl believe the lies that you are stopping wars. Very funny. Am not telling you not to follow what you believe but develop yourself spiritually to see many of such lines that they are actually used to bamboozle you to draw followers to themselves nothing more. Have you guys stop the ongoing religious war 🤣🤣🤣. Wake up man
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:35pm On Mar 11
bobestman:
Wars happened everyday and yet you ppl believe the lies that you are stopping wars. Have you guys stop the ongoing religious war
God promised to use His word and save His own worshipers from the self destructive vices to take over people's brains during the last days not that He will stop people from killing people. Isaiah 2:2-4

So get it straight true worshipers of God will not participate in the ongoing WARS and KILLINGS that's what makes Jesus' disciples stands out as followers of the Prince of Peace! Act 1:8; Isaiah 9:6🤣

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by bobestman(m): 6:43pm On Mar 11
MaxInDHouse:
God promised to use His word and save His own worshipers from the self destructive vices to take over people's brains during the last days not that He will stop people from killing people. Isaiah 2:2-4

So get it straight true worshipers of God will not participate in the ongoing WARS and KILLINGS that's what makes Jesus' disciples stands out as followers of the Prince of Peace! Act 1:8; Isaiah 9:6🤣
If I say you are brainwashed it will look like insult to you. Are you people children that you can't read bible with open mind to get the point. You people are too gullible that is why your religious founders deceive you. All the bible verse you quoted contradicts your beliefs. Why are you people too gullible

Isaiah 2:2-4
It started in verse one and it clearly stated that the vision is for JUDAH and JERUSALEM. It's the vision Isaiah saw for JUDAH and JERUSALEM not JW or kingdom hall. If you get a true vision or revelation from God you are given how, where it would be fulfilled. Isaiah clearly saw JUDAH and JERUSALEM. You see the one Daniel saw in Daniel 12, it was said to be fulfilled at the time of the end. Are you getting it? Guy you people are deceived. It will happen at a time of great distress. Ppl will seek God Almighty. God will restore his people according to Isaiah 11:11,12. The will build a temple where the presence of God will dwell with an OOM (order of Melchizedek) priest. Ppl will go and seek God their. It's a time of many wars. Ppl will get tired of fighting and seek the true God. If you read the book of Isaiah very well you will see all these. It's strictly for Israel. Judah and Jerusalem. Judah according to the bible is where the true king will come from and it's a covenant between them God. Your organization lied

Isaiah 9:6
You still don't understand. The verse says that the child will rule as king. When he came he didn't rule. For that verse to fulfill he must be their to take over the government. He is not their now. You organization lied again

Acts 1:8
Your organization don't even believe in the holy spirit let alone it's outpouring on people to motivate them to do what is right. The verse is not for JWs. You guys lied again

You aren't a kid. These people are just deceiving you with those lines to get you stucked to their doctrines. Read with open mind to get the point. It's very simple that a kid will understand
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:51pm On Mar 11
bobestman:
Read with open mind to get the point. It's very simple that a kid will understand.
Present your own people who read the Bible with open mind and let's see what becomes of them nah!😀
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by bobestman(m): 7:01pm On Mar 11
MaxInDHouse:
Present your own people who read the Bible with open mind and let's see what becomes of them nah!😀
Hahaha you have been thoroughly schooled that you can't even counter anything cos the lies of your organization is opened vividly for all to see 🤣🤣🤣.
It's now present your own people who read the bible with open mind 🤣🤣🤣. Them don chop ya head
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m):
bobestman:
Them don chop ya head
Where your own people wey dem neva chop unah head nah?🤣
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 7:14am On Mar 12
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sonmvayina:
Then you really don't know how to compare......or understand anything.
Let's test it.

I don't need to argue with you but I must tell you that you're the one who don't know how to objectively study materials without being influenced by external propaganda.

Just see the screenshots attached.

Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 7:18am On Mar 12
Truthseeker10:
Says a man who claims to have absolutely concrete agreement with the word of God and still claims that those who contradict him on the identity of Christ will be saved. You sound confused oga. You need rest.
If you're hot confused, can you tell me where the Bible says the knowledge of the identity of Christ is a require for salvation. Or tell me where the Bible says being aligned with me or Paul or Peter or John or anybody is a prerequisite for being saved.

Until you purge yourself of the organized lies and deception of your JW cult, you cannot but remain confused.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by bobestman(m): 8:53am On Mar 12
MaxInDHouse:
Where your own people wey dem neva chop unah head nah?🤣
Them no mumu like una wey say the vision Isaiah see for JUDAH and JERUSALEM na for JW 🤣🤣🤣. Them even cut out the verse 1 🤣🤣🤣 grown up and educated people no fit see the lie 🤣🤣🤣
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 9:25am On Mar 12
MaxInDHouse:
So who are those studying the Bible with you?
The Bereans were formerly Judaists but they were not satisfied with miracles as the Thessalonians quickly jumped at the Apostle after seeing them perform supernatural acts so they already believe in the scriptures before Paul explained more accurately to them they wouldn't have searched what they are not used to.



Pharisees can be likened to what we call theology schools today as each of them has students under their schools that is why the Bible mentioned the name of Paul's Rabbinic teacher "Gamalliel" {Act 22:3; 5:34} all of them teaching something similar yet there are sharp differences leading to many contradictions among them just as you have it in Christendom Churches today but they all agree on the Trinity one way or another claiming Jesus is God Almighty.
So in the face of confusion like this how can one be like a Beroean?
You have to search the scriptures to see if those teaching you are fulfilling what God promised in the scriptures since there is a purpose for which God gathered worshipers for Himself {Matthew 28:19 compare to Isaiah 43:9} any group that's meeting up with such a fulfillment is God's organization that's what the Beroeans did not just criticizing here and there.
Moreover note that they are Beroeans which means they were a group already learning as students of the scriptures what they searched the scriptures to ascertain is why they are leaving Judaism for the teachings of the Apostles!
You just like typing long fluffy words.

Who's arguing with you about who the Bereans were or who the Pharisees are?

The Bereans didn't listen to anyone or organization to determine their faith. They were not influenced by organized lies and deception. Paul preached. They saw miracles but refused to be moved. They ensured they confirmed everything in Scripture before accepting anything. As a result, the Bible called them Nobles

That's unlike you and your friend Truthseeker10 who only swallow up anything your JW organization tells you without confirming the scriptures. That way, you could easily be deceived.

Don't be like the Pharisees who would reject the truth even if it aligns with scriptures because they had preferences for doctrines more than the Word of God.

Heed my warnings. "Search the scriptures daily to see whether these things are so or not".
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:53am On Mar 12
Ọmọ here is the first verse:

This is what Isaiah the son of Aʹmoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. Isaiah 2:1

So faithless people keep expecting God to stick to a faithless nation when Christ the only begotten Son of God said to that nation:

This is why I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits. Matthew 21:43

And regarding Judah and Jerusalem he said:

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it.  Look! Your house is abandoned to you" Matthew 23:37-38

So God has condemned that nation and chosen another nation producing the FRUIT of faith that's why i'm quoting what God promised that His loyal worshipers will produce in the end time {Isaiah 2:2-4} therefore let all faithless people know that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION is that nation that replaced that faithless nation who failed to produce expected fruit of faith!
The nation of Israel failed to produce the fruit of faith so they've been cursed so if you're still expecting them to fulfill what God promised while you are seeing another nation producing it ọmọ i'm sorry for you! Mark 11:12-14🙂
bobestman:
Them no mumu like una wey say the vision Isaiah see for JUDAH and JERUSALEM na for JW 🤣🤣🤣. Them even cut out the verse 1 🤣🤣🤣 grown up and educated people no fit see the lie 🤣🤣🤣
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Gabrielshow24: 9:56am On Mar 12
sonmvayina:
it is God having a human experience that is killing and raping Gods having a human experience......

got it now?
😂😂😂
Fantabulous!
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:00am On Mar 12
This is really hilarious walahi talahi!😀

You can see each of us expatiating what we believe using the full strength of the scriptures and showing you the ORGANIZED PEOPLE practicing what we are saying yet you are deceiving yourself claiming JWs didn't confirm what we are learning.
Why are you so confused that you can't even mention a religious group with which you are in agreement if truly you believe what the Bible teaches? Act 1:8
Or you expect God to accept different religions claiming they are Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines? John 17:22😀

FxMasterz:
That's unlike you and your friend Truthseeker10 who only swallow up anything your JW organization tells you without confirming the scriptures. That way, you could easily be deceived.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 10:08am On Mar 12
FxMasterz:
If you're hot confused, can you tell me where the Bible says the knowledge of the identity of Christ is a require for salvation. Or tell me where the Bible says being aligned with me or Paul or Peter or John or anybody is a prerequisite for being saved.

Until you purge yourself of the organized lies and deception of your JW cult, you cannot but remain confused.
🤣🤣🤣 according to FxMasterz we don't need to know the truth about the identity of Christ to be saved. I can choose to believe that Jesus is not the son of God and be saved. Thank you.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by Truthseeker10: 10:12am On Mar 12
sonmvayina:
i never said that, it is humans who are responsible and humans are Gods spirits having a human experience on earth.

got it now?
So it is God's spirit that is raping and killing people on earth. Thanks for the info.
Re: Too Many Gods. Who Exactly Is The True God? Who Is The Creator? by FxMasterz(op): 10:22am On Mar 12
Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣 according to FxMasterz we don't need to know the truth about the identity of Christ to be saved. I can choose to believe that Jesus is not the son of God and be saved. Thank you.
You don't choose what to believe. You're lying against me, because I never said to choose what to believe.


I said confirm the Word. Don't believe anything anyone says until you have confirmed the Word. Simple! Stop being a lie monger.

I further established that what you think about Christ is not the basis for your salvation. Rather, it's what you know and believe about what Christ did for you. Knowledge is progressive. You can't know EVERYTHING in a single day. God won't judge you on the basis if what you know today when you could o know better by tomorrow. God judges you on whether you believe what Christ did for you or not. That's all.

I just hope you'll stop spreading lies about me, the same way you do about Jesus whom you call angel Michael.
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