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God's word said Babylon The Great will fall because the wild beast will devour her and burn the remaining of her body completely with fire! Revelation 17:16
Who is Babylon The Great?
Who is the Wild Beast?

Praise Jehovah it's happening right now let us pray to see the end of Babylon The Great and her lover the Wild Beast.

We got to wonder which God wants destroyed between American/Israel religions or Iranian religions.

Personally, I think this too shall pass just as all the other unfulfilled JW predictions have.

Who is Babylon The Great?
Who is the Wild Beast?

Babylon is used to represent kingdom or government since the reign of king Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon.

Babylon is the first human government to merge politics and religion together {Daniel 3:1-5} ever since then human governments have been forcing their subjects to be loyal to them as if they are God that's what led to National Anthem globally.

So what God's word used the symbolic terms "Babylon The Great" for is the World Empire of false religion riding on politicians and manipulating them into doing what they want. Jesus referred to these false religions as prostitute because they claim to be loyal to the God of Abraham yet they can sacrifice anything including the lives of their followers to Satan the ruler of these system of things just to remain in control so Jesus said they are drunk with the blood of holy ones as they conspire with world rulers to kill honest hearted and sincere believers! Revelation 17:5-6

Jesus said one thing will lead to another and the world rulers will hate the world empire of false religion then they will ban her forever! Revelation 17:16

Soon world rulers will turn against their own religions that's been instigating them to hate and kill one another then while doing this they will not remember the only true religion.

WHY?

Because according to Jesus the only true religion is no part of the world's political system {John 17:14-16} so when they are clamping down on their own religions that's been part of their struggles they will not take note of the only true religion.

But Satan will not be happy because his works has been exposed therefore he will draw their attention to the true religion telling them that since all their religions has been banned they should not leave any stone unturned, that's the time servants of God will have to face the wrath of Satan, his demons and his human agents

Until then let's remember that God's Kingdom is getting closer by the day as all these prophecies are unfolding one after another!

Last of the last days!🤔

Are Jehovah witness people also born agains? Can we call Jehovah witness born again?

What is the different between Jehovah witness and born again?

MrPresident1:
Are Jehovah witness people also born agains? Can we call Jehovah witness born again?
What is the different between Jehovah witness and born again?

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES began from the days of Abel {Hebrews 11:4} but Jehovah kept that name away for thousands of years until the last century after pure worship has been restored.
The last set of Jehovah's Witnesses will be organized under the leadership of a perfect human son of God that's what Jesus did teaching them how to work with God in gathering honest hearted and sincere individuals throughout the earth! Matthew 28:19-20

Now your question:

The term BORN AGAIN refers to humans who first followed God's perfect son in doing the work assigned to Jehovah's Witnesses in the last days.
God intended to select 144,000 among them to rule with Christ in heaven.

Jesus expected Jews to respond positively to his message the whole 144,000 supposed to be chosen among the Jews but 99% of the Jews ignored the message so after gathering few Jews who responded positively the invitation was blown open to faithful people among gentiles. That is why the chosing of Born Again ran down to our day.

When Jesus preached his own target is the Born Again that's why most of his comments is about them he later told them that another set of Jehovah's Witnesses will support them in the work assigned to the Born Again. John 10:16

First century Jews gave Jehovah's Witnesses many many names to ridicule them like:
"Members of The Way"
"Followers of the Nazarene"
"Christians"
Each of this group names was meant to ridicule them for the manner at which they were passionate about their faith.

So the Born Again among us can't be known by mouth they are observed by a ceremony Jesus commanded them to be doing yearly that is when we also know them because at that event they can't hide their identity they must be revealed that day.

When they were first named in Antioch, were they called Jehovah witness or born agains?

MrPresident1:
When they were first named in Antioch, were they called Jehovah witness or born agains?

That's not the first time they were named but that's the last time worldly people choose to name Jehovah's Witnesses according to their thoughts but Jehovah's Witnesses welcomed it and carried it as their torture stake or curse.
Why?
Because the title "Christ" among first century Jews has become a ridiculous title as two Jewish men before Jesus has come to claim they are the Christ only for them to prove to be impostors! John 10:8 compare to Act 5:36-37

So when Jesus came he refused to tell the Jews that he's the Christ rather he expected them to reach a conclusion after considering his activities among them. Matthew 16:20

But even many of his own disciples turned their backs on him concluding that he is another impostor! John 6:66

So when they finally gave Jesus' friends the name "CHRISTIANS" Jehovah's Witnesses in the first century welcome it as Jesus as encouraged them to do which is carry their torture stake while doing what he taught them as his witnesses. Matthew 16:24

It was in the year 1931 that our God through the mouth of one of His servants declared the long hidden name that separates His worshipers from false religionists! Isaiah 65:15

Regarding Born Again that remains in the group nobody bears that in the first century because it's not a label like the group name given to ridicule them.

So that means that we can call Jehovah witness, born agains

We can use it interchangeable, Jehovah witness or bornagain

MrPresident1:
So that means that we can call Jehovah witness, born agains. We can use it interchangeable, Jehovah witness or bornagain

WE will not respond to that our group name is "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" only few among millions of us are Born Again and they don't brag about it so none of us will answer you if you address us as Born Again.

Does this mean that the vast majority of Jehovah witness are not born again?

MrPresident1:
Does this mean that the vast majority of Jehovah witness are not born again?

YES!
Out of all Jehovah's Witnesses from the time of Abel till date only 144,000 are Born Again that is why Jesus said:

Among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is. Matthew 11:11

All those born of women began with Abel so from his time until John the baptist no one qualified to be among the Born Again so the chosing of Born Again started from the time God's holy spirit baptized 120 Jehovah's Witnesses who have learned from Jesus! Act 2:1-4 compare to John 3:3-4

That means that most of Jehovah witness will not see the kingdom of God John 3:3

MrPresident1:
That means that most of Jehovah witness will not see the kingdom of God John 3:3

Misconception!
Jesus was talking to a Jewish politician who wants to rule with the Christ like all other Jewish Rabbis so that expression is meant only for anyone who wants to rule with Christ not all faithful people.
Note that being born again Kick-started with Jesus' disciples {Act 2:1-4} and he said all servants of God before John the baptist are not qualified! Matthew 11:11
Does that mean people like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses and the likes will not be in Paradise?
So what Jesus meant at John 3:3 needs thorough meditation to grasp!🙂

Only Jehovah witness understand it that way. Jehovah witness are not born agains they cannot see the kingdom of God

MrPresident1:
Only Jehovah witness understand it that way. Jehovah witness are not born agains they cannot see the kingdom of God

Tell me how you understand it after reading Matthew 11:11🙂

Abraham is the man God blessed and established a covenant with for the salvation of mankind. Genesis 12:1-3

From that time till today Satan has been monitoring or trailing that lineage because Satan is ready to give whatever it takes to stop mankind from getting saved. He (Satan) knew he can't stop God's will but can confuse mankind from getting saved! Revelation 12:10

He focused on Abraham's descendants and seeking ways to pollute whatever they have that is why the Israelites keep having issues with God's laws as if they are the most wicked people ever created but the true God knew that its Satan's handiwork therefore God concentrated on His own work to save obedient humans.

Israelites later splitted into two nations ten tribes in the northern part became idol worshipers remaining two tribes, the ten tribes known in Bible times as Samaritans scattered throughout the world but God kept the two tribes together even after they've been taken into exile in Babylon God brought them back to their soil.

WHY?

Because He wanted to fulfill His promise to Abraham regarding the salvation plan which will come through the seed of Abraham who is the Christ to be born among the Jews (southern two tribes of ancient Israel)

So after the Christ has come Satan continue to fight really hard to confuse the Jews until they began killing Jesus' disciples and just as Jesus has foretold the nation received her final judgement when Romans came to destroy their city and temple killing millions of Jews.

Jesus instructed his twelve Apostles not to leave Jerusalem until they see the sign of her impending destruction and it happened just as Jesus prophesied, Jerusalem was destroyed but before then Jesus gave his disciples specific instructions on how they can escape when the time comes.

The remaining Christians escaped for being obedient to Christ's instructions and from that time the Jews scattered throughout the world just as their ten tribes brothers (Samaritans)

Later Satan continued attacking the Christians but this time around subtly so as not to grasp who is really dealing with them. After the death of all Christ's apostles politicians started using the group name "CHRISTIANS" to promote their ambition and Christianity formerly known as the most peaceful group became killers in different places forcing their religion on people and backing it up with politics.

This is the birth of BABYLON THE GREAT!

They moved so swiftly to all the nations under the heavens with their conquest forcing their rules on people claiming it's the will of Abrahamic God and that is what gives birth to Islam as Muhammad realized that something is wrong with the Churches of Christendom but since he wasn't backed by the spirit of God he also ended up with politics like them forcing his teachings (religion) on people and that is what led to the widespread of these two rival religions claiming they belong to Abraham.

Meanwhile the Jews don't know which side to follow as they hated Jesus of Nazareth with passion for not leading them to war against their enemies and as for Islam they discovered that what Muslims are claiming is wrong because the promise was made to Abraham and to Isaac and to Jacob therefore it couldn't have been a descendant of someone else that will bring the way to salvation unless the person is a Jews!

So the Jews also continued spreading their religion but towards Asia where they met deadly opposition from the Muslims however these three religions makes up what the scriptures called Babylon The Great and they continue leading people to kill people in the name of God and religion!

https://www.nairaland.com/8504991/apostasy-john-baptist

Read this thread to understand Matthew 11:11

So, Jehovah witness that come from the Americans is not Babylonian?

MrPresident1:
https://www.nairaland.com/8504991/apostasy-john-baptist
Read this thread to understand Matthew 11:11

Have i ever directed you to links?

Well i don't so if you have listened or read it then explain what you found regarding the subject!

MrPresident1:
So, Jehovah witness that come from the Americans is not Babylonian?

The term Babylon as used in prophecies doesn't mean a particular race or nation rather it refers to three false religions that are claiming they are for Abrahamic faith yet fighting and killing themselves due to politics!

So Jehovah witness is not part of Babylon, yet its headquarters is in American?

Read the thread, it will explain Matthew 11:11 to you

I think it's better to say bye for now if you don't have anything further to ask!🙂

MrPresident1:
So Jehovah witness is not part of Babylon, yet its headquarters is in American?
Read the thread, it will explain Matthew 11:11 to you

Where in the Bible is it written that today I give you a new religion called Jehovah witnesses?

Where in the Bible is it written that today I give you a new religion called Jehovah witness?

Was Paul a Jehovah witness or Peter or Andrew or John? Were they all Jehovah witnesses?

MrPresident1:
Where in the Bible is it written that today I give you a new religion called Jehovah witness?

Was Paul a Jehovah witness or Peter or Andrew or John? Were they all Jehovah witnesses?

All faithful servants of God from Abel till today are Witnesses of Jehovah
{Isaiah 43:10} that is why Paul used his letter to tell our brothers in the Hebrew speaking congregation:

So, then, because we have such a great cloud of WITNESSES surrounding us, let us also throw off every weight and the sin that easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us. Hebrews 12:1

Jesus is our most senior brother:

and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful WITNESS,” “the firstborn from the dead,” and “the Ruler of the kings of the earth.” To him who loves us and who set us free from our sins by means of his own blood— Revelation 1:5

So, Jehovah witness is a religion on it's own or it is a sect of Christianity?

MrPresident1:
So, Jehovah witness is a religion on it's own or it is a sect of Christianity?

On our own!

Is Jehovah witness a religion or a sect in Christianity?

MrPresident1:
Is Jehovah witness a religion or a sect in Christianity?

You keep dancing around the same question.
Since you have your own beliefs is there any problem with yours?🙂