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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:09pm On Mar 14
[quote author=OkpaNsukkaisBae post=138765604]This is the American soldier who disclosed the location of US troops unknowingly. His name is Blake Poffenberger.


u mentioned me, maybe u will answer the question on behalf of darlington and try to make his logic make sense to us.

Iran hit hotels in UAE, hit refineries in Saudi Arabia and other non military/ Non-US embassy /Non -US base locations in the gulf. How many US troops did they kill/wound in the aforementioned places?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:21pm On Mar 14
I used to think private universities pay lecturers better than government owned universities, seeing this Convenant university payslip of a PhD holder as at 2024..... Omo!

It's best to say lecturers are generally poorly paid in Nigeria.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 12:25pm On Mar 14
BlueRayDick:
Since u mentioned me, maybe u will answer the question on behalf of darlington and try to make his logic make sense to us.

Iran hit hotels in UAE, hit refineries in Saudi Arabia and other non military/ Non-US embassy /Non -US base locations in the gulf. How many US troops did they kill/wound in the aforementioned places?
US is in Middle East because of oil revenue & export. Just like in Venezuela. Trump confirmed that Venezuela oil has started flowing again. So anything stopping the oil to flow from the Arab countries who allowed US to use their territory and airspace to stage a war of aggression against Iran is fair game.

The point is for you to acknowledge that US troops where using civilian infrastructures (Hotel) to hide from Iranian missile attack.

Whether na 50 soldiers or 100k soldiers wounded as a result of the attack from hotel, that's not the argument.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 12:28pm On Mar 14
BlueRayDick:
I used to think private universities pay lecturers better than government owned universities, seeing this Convenant university payslip of a PhD holder as at 2024..... Omo!

It's best to say lecturers are generally poorly paid in Nigeria.
133k? shocked shocked

Thats less than 5k a day. In 2024 when cost of things were already speeding up, how can he feed, let alone take care of familly?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Realmrsean: 12:29pm On Mar 14
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
US is in Middle East because of oil revenue & export. Just like in Venezuela. Trump confirmed that Venezuela oil has started flowing again. So anything stopping the oil to flow from the Arab countries who allowed US to use their territory and airspace to stage a war of aggression against Iran is fair game.

The point is for you to acknowledge that US troops where using civilian infrastructures (Hotel) to hide from Iranian missile attack.

Whether na 50 soldiers or 100k soldiers wounded as a result of the attack from hotel, that's not the argument.
you get strength wallahi

The worst thing you can do in this life is to try to educate someone who have had his mindset pre determined on something else..

Good luck with that
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Sportsweb: 12:48pm On Mar 14
Good-bye Bibi.

E be like NGRC never see this update

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 12:58pm On Mar 14
Emaprince:
133k? shocked shocked

Thats less than 5k a day. In 2024 when cost of things were already speeding up, how can he feed, let alone take care of familly?
It's not 133k he had salary advance but 197k gross is still small sha
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 12:59pm On Mar 14
Senior Iranian MP Ebrahim Azizi:

By providing drone support to the Israeli regime, failed Ukraine has effectively become involved in the War and, under Article 51 of the United Nations Charter, has turned its entire territory into a legitimate target for Iran.



Dis Iranians too get bad mouth. Failed Ukraine. Sometimes I wonder who dey advice Zelensky. Announcing to the public that you're sending drone experts to Israel & the Gulf countries will surely come with consequence.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m): 1:04pm On Mar 14
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
That's one of the diplomatic blunders Putin/Russia made in the past. Long-term they had nothing much to gain in joining the EU/Israel/US to sanction Iran, Libya, North Korea without the dissolution of NATO or acceptance of Russian membership in the EU because this military alliance want to encircle Russia, Balkanize it and steal away her large natural resources. The likes of Turkey, Finland & Sweden still wan collect the territory dey lost in war against Russia, Crimea, Karelian Isthmus & St Petersburg respectively.

Imagine if Russia didn't abide by those sanctions and supplied Gaddafi with air defense systems to thwart NATO no fly zone. Give the Iranians Su-35s & Su-57 fighter jets.
Well Russia didn't have the economic muscle the collective West had. China only just recently became fairly independent economically of others and increasingly challenging US hegemony. Russia back then would mostly go it alone and it might possibly further alienate them from the West who pulled the strings of the entire world.

But now they have an astute Beijing with the economic power, military and tech advancement, population, alternative market and political will to back them. Now it's Russia and China. Unlike before where they were allies but did their business differently or individually. Now they're far more aligned in all spheres (economically, militarily, socioeconomically, and politically) disrupting the influence of US and its lackeys.

You think say if India done get better economic leverage, dem no go tell Trump make him go hug transformer the way China no send him papa message during the tariffs war. Dem bully Modi make him stop Russian oil importation and Baba later surrender after initial posturing even tho average Indians wanted him to show indifference.
Shey the same tactics work against China? grin China imports Russian oil without problems and TACO Trump had to come to the table to reduce his demands, stop his funny tariffs shït and engage in proper negotiations.


Don't be surprised when you see China sometime around 2030-2035 actively sending naval warships to challenge or defend it's interests in allied countries. They're just bidding their time for now till they finally crack advanced semiconductors design and production and possibly passenger aircraft engine.
Or probably, they're waiting to incorporate Taiwan first.

Iran, if my info is accurate actually ordered for Su-35s in 2023/24 but the war in Ukraine has made that delivery fulfillment massively delayed. I'm also doubting how serious Iran pushed for the deliveries or probably Moscow hesitated a bit due to geopolitical considerations and escalations because they just delivered 2 Su-57s to Algeria late last year. Part reason why US and Israel supports Morocco in acquiring F-35 that even bigger and strategic partners like Saudi Arabia and UAE are locked out from.

Russia also asked Iran to purchase S-300/400 and other associated Russian air defense systems to accompany the deal and protect their new incoming assets and airbase infrastructure, but they refused.

They believed in the capability of their home-grown air defense systems. So Iran is partly in this shite where Israel and US have almost non-contested access to their airspace because of their stubbornness and pride.
Iran surely has some good and dependable missile program on earth especially the ballistic missiles program, but when it comes to air defense, the Russians are unparalleled. Iran is hindranced by the fact that their electronics game can't be advanced as up to par with the average in top countries presently (cos of sanctions), so their radar systems are handicapped.

This is where I feel China may soon surpass Russian radar game and possibly air defense cos the Chinese are the crème de la crème of electronics tech and innovation presently.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:07pm On Mar 14
iamoyindamola:
It's not 133k he had salary advance but 197k gross is still small sha
He said the so called advance is the deductions for his PhD ( most likely he run his PhD programme while he was already a staff there).

So let's say he didn't owe them that 37k and it is added back to the 133k, that means he would've earned 170k net which is still very very poor.

How can they pay someone who has the highest educational qualification in academics 170k per month for him to be imparting knowledge to build future leaders?

I'm very sure some student's monthly allowance in that school pass 200k as at that 2024 sef.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Sportsweb: 1:07pm On Mar 14
Same Iran that gave Russia sahed drones LMAO 🤣 😂
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Senior Iranian MP Ebrahim Azizi:

By providing drone support to the Israeli regime, failed Ukraine has effectively become involved in the War and, under Article 51 of the United Nations Charter, has turned its entire territory into a legitimate target for Iran.



Dis Iranians too get bad mouth. Failed Ukraine. Sometimes I wonder who dey advice Zelensky. Announcing to the public that you're sending drone experts to Israel & the Gulf countries will surely come with consequence.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:10pm On Mar 14
Emaprince:
133k? shocked shocked

Thats less than 5k a day. In 2024 when cost of things were already speeding up, how can he feed, let alone take care of familly?
Omo!

Even anybody wey no go beyond secondary wey fit operate phone and drive car will earn more than that as bolt driver in a month.

On top that money the lecturer will teach classes, set exams, mark tests, mark exam scripts, record student's performance and still try to do research so he can publish articles on journals.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 1:20pm On Mar 14
BlueRayDick:
He said the so called advance is the deductions for his PhD ( most likely he run his PhD programme while he was already a staff there).

So let's say he didn't owe them that 37k and it is added back to the 133k, that means he would've earned 170k net which is still very very poor.

How can they pay someone who has the highest educational qualification in academics 170k per month for him to be imparting knowledge to build future leaders?

I'm very sure some student's monthly allowance in that school pass 200k as at that 2024 sef.
Yeah that's what I said 197k gross is poor and cheap labour, private companies take advantage of that minimum wage to extort employees
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 1:23pm On Mar 14
Sportsweb:
Same Iran that gave Russia sahed drones LMAO 🤣 😂
There's a difference between sending Ukrainian military instructors to operate Ukrainian counters drone system in Israel/Gulf countries and just sending this counter drones alone without experts/soldiers.

Alternatively, If Zelensky have good adviser, he will advice Zelensky to tell them to come to Ukraine and learn on the spot. That we won't send our drone experts to Israel/Gulf.
Trump later wan do damage control by declining Ukraine's offer. But the damage has been done.

The result is that, now Russian military instructors might also be invited to help Iran to balance the status quo.. You get?

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:24pm On Mar 14
iamoyindamola:
Yeah that's what I said 197k gross is poor and cheap labour, private companies take advantage of that minimum wage to extort employees
But public universities don't pay better too. That's why ASUU is always going on strike now.

I think they just don't pay Lecturers and teachers well in this country
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 1:33pm On Mar 14
abduleez1:
Well Russia didn't have the economic muscle the collective West had. China only just recently became fairly independent economically of others and increasingly challenging US hegemony. Russia back then would mostly go it alone and it might possibly further alienate them from the West who pulled the strings of the entire world.

But now they have an astute Beijing with the economic power, military and tech advancement, population, alternative market and political will to back them. Now it's Russia and China. Unlike before where they were allies but did their business differently or individually. Now they're far more aligned in all spheres (economically, militarily, socioeconomically, and politically) disrupting the influence of US and its lackeys.

You think say if India done get better economic leverage, dem no go tell Trump make him go hug transformer the way China no send him papa message during the tariffs war. Dem bully Modi make him stop Russian oil importation and Baba later surrender after initial posturing even tho average Indians wanted him to show indifference.
Shey the same tactics work against China? grin China imports Russian oil without problems and TACO Trump had to come to the table to reduce his demands, stop his funny tariffs shït and engage in proper negotiations.


Don't be surprised when you see China sometime around 2030-2035 actively sending naval warships to challenge or defend it's interests in allied countries. They're just bidding their time for now till they finally crack advanced semiconductors design and production and possibly passenger aircraft engine.
Or probably, they're waiting to incorporate Taiwan first.

Iran, if my info is accurate actually ordered for Su-35s in 2023/24 but the war in Ukraine has made that delivery fulfillment massively delayed. I'm also doubting how serious Iran pushed for the deliveries or probably Moscow hesitated a bit due to geopolitical considerations and escalations because they just delivered 2 Su-57s to Algeria late last year. Part reason why US and Israel supports Morocco in acquiring F-35 that even bigger and strategic partners like Saudi Arabia and UAE are locked out from.

Russia also asked Iran to purchase S-300/400 and other associated Russian air defense systems to accompany the deal and protect their new incoming assets and airbase infrastructure, but they refused.

They believed in the capability of their home-grown air defense systems. So Iran is partly in this shite where Israel and US have almost non-contested access to their airspace because of their stubbornness and pride.
Iran surely has some good and dependable missile program on earth especially the ballistic missiles program, but when it comes to air defense, the Russians are unparalleled. Iran is hindranced by the fact that their electronics game can't be advanced as up to par with the average in top countries presently (cos of sanctions), so their radar systems are handicapped.

This is where I feel China may soon surpass Russian radar game and possibly air defense cos the Chinese are the crème de la crème of electronics tech and innovation presently.
You're right. I believe the Russians were bidding their time. I mean their is a reason the Russian military is out producing the whole of NATO member states including the US. This process did not start in 2022. They were long preparing for war against NATO.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Sportsweb: 1:49pm On Mar 14
So iran can assist Russia with drones that destroy Ukraine cities and Ukraine can't help Gulf states with counter drones to protect themselves. Wonderful
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
There's a difference between sending Ukrainian military instructors to operate Ukrainian counters drone system in Israel/Gulf countries and just sending this counter drones alone without experts/soldiers.

Alternatively, If Zelensky have good adviser, he will advice Zelensky to tell them to come to Ukraine and learn on the spot. That we won't send our drone experts to Israel/Gulf.
Trump later wan do damage control by declining Ukraine's offer. But the damage has been done.

The result is that, now Russian military instructors might also be invited to help Iran to balance the status quo.. You get?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 1:57pm On Mar 14
Sportsweb:
So iran can assist Russia with drones that destroy Ukraine cities and Ukraine can't help Gulf states with counter drones to protect themselves. Wonderful
Ukraine said they're sending counter drone experts not drones. Please read to understand
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m): 2:01pm On Mar 14
Realmrsean:
Why do European leaders and most people ask Iran not to attack gulf countries, but don't condemn USA and Israel nor ask them to stop attacking Iran.

I want to see a logical response to this
Lmao..... You wan ask person wey dey guarantee your security to pipe down?? grin grin

You think presently Europe can protect itself from Russia if push comes to shove? US largely ensures their leaders can sleep with their eyes closed and rest on the fact that only the Eastern Europeans are the ones with any immediate threat from Moscow.
Asides that, they're largely dependent on the American economy and the goodwill of it's companies and consumption economy.

They've seen first hand how vindictive Trump can be with reluctant partners. They know Trump can afford to see Europe burn (for a bit) just to teach them a lesson who's boss. So, it's better you're reluctant in supporting Trump America than actively opposing it. That's if you're at peace with chopping retaliatory tariffs.

Trump knows EU is weak that's why he can threaten them about acquiring Greenland —which is his signature move for trying to strong arm and secure mineral resources for America in the future.

Thing is, Trump is kinda a visionary leader (maybe with a touch of megalomania) but he sees things as it is. All these fights for mineral control is hedging against a future where its enemies Russia and China secure minerals for themselves and propel their economy greater than that of the almighty USA. Why does this matter? Because when your enemies have all the resources and leverage they need, you're left with a nation with nothing to lose. It's difficult fighting or challenging such opponent.

We live in an interconnected and interdependent world. So this has largely mitigated wars and armed conflicts because everyone depends on everyone for something one way or another. If not, when you're totally independent of everybody, and you have the population and landmass to back it up, it wouldn't be long when the whole world would be under you or feet.

With the USA's might and economic reach it still has some dependencies on even it's competitors like Russia and China.
The US depends on Russia for it's space missions in the International Space Station. Depends on China for rare earth metals very essential for its military industrial complex and larger civilian economy.
So these dependencies makes everyone behave themselves to an extent.

If not, the bigger boys — the powers that be would have no problems taking from the weak. Just like that maxim, "the strong shall take from the weak".

China would just take Taiwan and other islands in the South China Sea. USA would take Greenland. Russia would take Crimea and Ukraine, if possible the Balkans without qualms. Nigeria would take Bakassi Peninsula.
Consequences limits this level of imperialism. And to an extent helps limit the world devolving into another World War.

These above reasons are why you no longer have empires in present day 21st century. If not, the quest for resources (mineral and human) are the building blocks for expansion and power projection since the founding of civilization. No more need to be, the Roman Empire, Persian Empire, Ottoman Empire, Mughal Empire, Ancient Egypt, Mongol Empire, Benin Kingdom etc....

Global economy and interconnection makes happenings in middle east affecting far away Nigeria back home, vice versa. Just like how Dangote refinery was prompting closure of some smaller refineries in far away Europe cos they've essentially lost their major West African market.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 2:02pm On Mar 14
Cook the EU fraud for me

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m): 2:03pm On Mar 14
Sportsweb:
So iran can assist Russia with drones that destroy Ukraine cities and Ukraine can't help Gulf states with counter drones to protect themselves. Wonderful
Lol, where Ukraine wan see spare drones to send to Middle East when their frontline troops so badly needs it in the battlefront? 😂😂
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Realmrsean: 2:05pm On Mar 14
abduleez1:
Lmao..... You wan ask person wey dey guarantee your security to pipe down?? grin grin

You think presently Europe can protect itself from Russia if push comes to shove? US largely ensures their leaders can sleep with their eyes closed and rest on the fact that only the Eastern Europeans are the ones with any immediate threat from Moscow.
Asides that, they're largely dependent on the American economy and the goodwill of it's companies and consumption economy.

They've seen first hand how vindictive Trump can be with reluctant partners. They know Trump can afford to see Europe burn (for a bit) just to teach them a lesson who's boss. So, it's better you're reluctant in supporting Trump America than actively opposing it. That's if you're at peace with chopping retaliatory tariffs.

Trump knows EU is weak that's why he can threaten them about acquiring Greenland —which is his signature move for trying to strong arm and secure mineral resources for America in the future.

Thing is, Trump is kinda a visionary leader (maybe with a touch of megalomania) but he sees things as it is. All these fights for mineral control is hedging against a future where its enemies Russia and China secure minerals for themselves and propel their economy greater than that of the almighty USA. Why does this matter? Because when your enemies have all the resources and leverage they need, you're left with a nation with nothing to lose. It's difficult fighting or challenging such opponent.

We live in an interconnected and interdependent world. So this has largely mitigated wars and armed conflicts because everyone depends on everyone for something one way or another. If not, when you're totally independent of everybody, and you have the population and landmass to back it up, it wouldn't be long when the whole world would be under you or feet.

With the USA's might and economic reach it still has some dependencies on even it's competitors like Russia and China.
The US depends on Russia for it's space missions in the International Space Station. Depends on China for rare earth metals very essential for its military industrial complex and larger civilian economy.
So these dependencies makes everyone behave themselves to an extent.

If not, the bigger boys — the powers that be would have no problems taking from the weak. Just like that maxim, "the strong shall take from the weak".

China would just take Taiwan and other islands in the South China Sea. USA would take Greenland. Russia would take Crimea and Ukraine, if possible the Balkans without qualms. Nigeria would take Bakassi Peninsula.
Consequences limits this level of imperialism. And to an extent helps limit the world devolving into another World War.

These above reasons are why you no longer have empires in present day 21st century. If not, the quest for resources (mineral and human) are the building blocks for expansion and power projection since the founding of civilization. No more need to be, the Roman Empire, Persian Empire, Ottoman Empire, Mughal Empire, Ancient Egypt, Mongol Empire, Benin Kingdom etc....

Global economy and interconnection makes happenings in middle east affecting far away Nigeria back home, vice versa. Just like how Dangote refinery was prompting closure of some smaller refineries in far away Europe cos they've essentially lost their major West African market.
you have answered well

Europe is weak to call USA bluffs
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:15pm On Mar 14
BlueRayDick:
I used to think private universities pay lecturers better than government owned universities, seeing this Convenant university payslip of a PhD holder as at 2024..... Omo!

It's best to say lecturers are generally poorly paid in Nigeria.
Bank not available

i wanted to confirm this is actually real as this is a lousy job of hiding identity

days worked as 31 is also not correct as jan 1 is public holiday and there are weekends

just pointing out gaps in this document .

i personally see oyedepo as a pompous prick with a God complex

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:30pm On Mar 14
larride:
I majorly agree with all your point but one thing this war has shown is that without the US support, Iran will rule it's neighbors militarily.

Iran has shown that if their critical infrastructure is torched, they will torched the critical infrastructures of all the Gulf nation including Israel, personally I think that is what is still stopping US/Israel from bombing their critical infra.

Make all of them just allow peace to reign abeg. Trump should never have canceled the JCPOA agreement that Obama signed with Iran
Was it not under that same JCPOA that Iran was funding proxies to commit crimes against Saudi Israel and US interests or what was the benefit
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:36pm On Mar 14
izzou:
4 billion naira to build Bola Tinubu Polytechnic? grin

2027 go sure by force!
Is that a lot of money to build a school? Peller recent said he got a house for 500m.

Linda Ikeji over 10yrs ago said she built a house for 500m. In today's Naira that is about 4bn which is the same cost of the polytechnic
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 2:38pm On Mar 14
As seen somewhere... grin grin


Ballistic Brothers 🚀🇮🇷🇱🇧

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:41pm On Mar 14
iamoyindamola:
Yeah that's what I said 197k gross is poor and cheap labour, private companies take advantage of that minimum wage to extort employees
I believe contract staffs in bank with OND sef go dey earn that

Imagine a whole PhD
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:51pm On Mar 14
izzou:
4 billion naira to build Bola Tinubu Polytechnic? grin

2027 go sure by force!
your average high end house in banana island is being built for 900m - and that does not include price of land

and this is a 2 or max 3 story building

4 billion is small when you consider all the facilities going into it.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bombblacks: 3:00pm On Mar 14
Emaprince:
If Iran touches nuke, the lives of those spoilt americans are in danger.
Very funny seeing a Nigerian talking about inflation and unemployement in America, when your own country is unlivable...all to make America look bad.

You can hate America all you want, but the truth should not be hidden. Iran is evil...and their aim is mostly to wipe out Isreal and America.

Death to Isreal, death to America is not just a chant. Its from their hearts.
The fact that you typed this with such confidence, despite it being complete rubbish, is exactly why I will ignore you. It’s obvious you’re very ignorant cus nothing you have said is even related to my post. "Hate America, make America look bad" lmao.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 3:05pm On Mar 14
BlueRayDick:
But public universities don't pay better too. That's why ASUU is always going on strike now.

I think they just don't pay Lecturers and teachers well in this country
I no gree o
Even polytechnic junior lecturers don't earn 197k
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 3:05pm On Mar 14
raumdeuter:
I believe contract staffs in bank with OND sef go dey earn that

Imagine a whole PhD
Exactly
This country ehn, it's tiring and frustrating
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bombblacks: 3:07pm On Mar 14
"If Iran touches nuke, the lives of those americans are in danger."

Nice one. That was pure comedy, easily the funniest thing I have read all year.
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