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Good morning NL. I want us to calm down and discuss this topic very well. Do fake and expired products such as drugs and foods really harm us?
Let me start by laying some examples from my experiences. Firstly, I am not a drug/medicine/tablet taker or English medicine as most people call it. The only English medicine I take is blood tonic which was introduced to me some 10yrs ago by my late mum.
Apart from that, I prefer herbal medicine "agbo" than Panadol, paracetamol and co which has really helped me never to visit any hospital for over 30yrs and counting.
This blood tonic, sometimes I miss taking it for months and sometimes I take it steady for months. And with this I know how it works and improve my body when I do take it and how I emanciate if I don't take it.

Middle last year I was employed at a farm in a remote village in Ogun state. I couldn't find that blood tonic for over 2months, and luckily one day a guy started coming to the village on bike with pharmaceutical products and I asked for the blood tonic. He had it and when I asked for the price, he told me #1,600. I was shocked with the price cus I last bought in Lagos #2,500. I bought it and started using it. For the 6 months I spent in that village, I bought from him 4 times. And to be honest with you guys, the blood tonic works perfectly as it has been working for me over the years. But the unbeknown truth was that it was either fake or expired ones this guy is selling for me.
.
Fast forward to earlier this year I was transferred back to one of the city in Ogun state. I went to buy this same blood tonic, and was told it's now #3,500. I exclaimed to the chemist, that I just bought this same tonic for #1,600 some weeks ago, he told me that must have been fake or expired ones. I then told him but it works perfectly without any side effects. He couldn't say anything but "e dey be like that sometimes".
That's scenario 1.
Some years back in Oshogbo I was working in a drink, wine and beverage store.

The owner of the store gives us most of the drinks to drink when they're about to expire or has expired.
There's a store where we keep drinks that has expired, and you can go take as much as you want. Though the owner always tells us to dispose of them if we don't want them.

We take as much as we can and dispose the ones we can. All thru my working there, not me nor any of my other colleagues complain of bad health, stomach pain or any other side effects pertaining to those expired products we used to take.
That's scenario 2.
Apart from this two scenarios, we or should I say I must have eating and drank so many things out there without knowing they're fake or has expired. And I still lived on strong and in good health.
I was born and brought up in Lagos, I can confidently say 50% of majority of things we eat and drink in Lagos are either fake, expired or adurturated. Why bcus I know majority of places this fake and adurturated products are being produce. But with this fake products seemingly out there in millions, Lagosians still survive and go about their daily activities as if nothing is happening. God forbid bad thing, if truly those expired and fake products are truly bad for health, won't we be hearing and seeing thousands of death everyday?
.
Sometimes a product been cheaper than the original one doesn't mean it's fake, just that another company tries to produce another one affordable to the common man.
My best cola drink is coca cola, but they're different and affordable cola drinks in the market for those that can't afford coca cola.
So are other products out there which are inferior to the ones we thought it to be but affordable, does that make the inferior ones fake or not good for consumption?
Some families can no longer afford beverages like Milo, Bournvita, Peak Milk and co. But they're many alternatives out there that are cheaper and at the end of the day you that used Milo drank tea, and they too drank tea. Tea na tea!
My last thought, I am not in any way supporting fake and adurturated products, but with the prevailing economic hardship, I don't think we can do without them.
As far as they're not causing harm to us.
I made this post in respect to the thread of Nigeria customs seizing containers of fake goods worth over #6b.
The irony of it is, yes they're fake according to the customs. But will they destroy it, I am very sure 90% they won't.
They'll still recycle it and sell to their cronies and it will still flood the market.
.
So guys I wanna hear your take on this issue regarding fake and expired products to our health and economy at large.

Kalulu44:
Good morning NL. I want us to calm down and discuss this topic very well. Do fake and expired products such as drugs and foods really harm us?
Let me start by laying some examples from my experiences. Firstly, I am not a drug/medicine/tablet taker or English medicine as most people call it. The only English medicine I take is blood tonic which was introduced to me some 10yrs ago by my late mum.
Apart from that, I prefer herbal medicine "agbo" than Panadol, paracetamol and co which has really helped me never to visit any hospital for over 30yrs and counting.
This blood tonic, sometimes I miss taking it for months and sometimes I take it steady for months. And with this I know how it works and improve my body when I do take it and how I emanciate if I don't take it.
Middle last year I was employed at a farm in a remote village in Ogun state. I couldn't find that blood tonic for over 2months, and luckily one day a guy started coming to the village on bike with pharmaceutical products and I asked for the blood tonic. He had it and when I asked for the price, he told me #1,600.
I was shocked with the price cus I last bought in Lagos #2,500. I bought it and started using it. For the 6 months I spent in that village, I bought from him 4 times. And to be honest with you guys, the blood tonic works perfectly as it has been working for me over the years. But the unbeknown truth was that it was either fake or expired ones this guy is selling for me.
.
Fast forward to earlier this year I was transferred back to one of the city in Ogun state. I went to buy this same blood tonic, and was told it's now #3,500. I exclaimed to the chemist, that I just bought this same tonic for #1,600 some weeks ago, he told me that must have been fake or expired ones. I then told him but it works perfectly without any side effects. He couldn't say anything but "e dey be like that sometimes".
That's scenario 1.
Some years back in Oshogbo I was working in a drink, wine and beverage store.
The owner of the store gives us most of the drinks to drink when they're about to expire or has expired.
There's a store where we keep drinks that has expired, and you can go take as much as you want. Though the owner always tells us to dispose of them if we don't want them.
We take as much as we can and dispose the ones we can. All thru my working there, not me nor any of my other colleagues complain of bad health, stomach pain or any other side effects pertaining to those expired products we used to take.
That's scenario 2.
Apart from this two scenarios, we or should I say I must have eating and drank so many things out there without knowing they're fake or has expired. And I still lived on strong and in good health.
I was born and brought up in Lagos, I can confidently say 50% of majority of things we eat and drink in Lagos are either fake, expired or adurturated. Why bcus I know majority of places this fake and adurturated products are being produce. But with this fake products seemingly out there in millions, Lagosians still survive and go about their daily activities as if nothing is happening. God forbid bad thing, if truly those expired and fake products are truly bad for health, won't we be hearing and seeing thousands of death everyday?
.
Sometimes a product been cheaper than the original one doesn't mean it's fake, just that another company tries to produce another one affordable to the common man.
My best cola drink is coca cola, but they're different and affordable cola drinks in the market for those that can't afford coca cola.
So are other products out there which are inferior to the ones we thought it to be but affordable, does that make the inferior ones fake or not good for consumption?
Some families can no longer afford beverages like Milo, Bournvita, Peak Milk and co. But they're many alternatives out there that are cheaper and at the end of the day you that used Milo drank tea, and they too drank tea. Tea na tea!
My last thought, I am not in any way supporting fake and adurturated products, but with the prevailing economic hardship, I don't think we can do without them.
As far as they're not causing harm to us.
I made this post in respect to the thread of Nigeria customs seizing containers of fake goods worth over #6b.
The irony of it is, yes they're fake according to the customs. But will they destroy it, I am very sure 90% they won't.
They'll still recycle it and sell to their cronies and it will still flood the market.
.
So guys I wanna hear your take on this issue regarding fake and expired products to our health and economy at large.
CJStarz
ruggedtimi
oz4real83
Pootle
Sonofwar
congo4ka
Mariangeles
Sonnobax15
CodeTemplar
brain54
Sccarrr
Fergie001

my take is that even if the ones you’ve taken so far haven’t been harmful, or if there are some fake products made for consumption that appear not to be harmful, it still doesn’t guarantee that other fake products out there are safe..
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They can put people’s health at risk and cause serious complications like heart, liver, or kidney problems. A lot of people have lost their lives over this issue. Fake products should be totally frowned upon and not encouraged in any way, my bro.

And the government does destroy them, and of course, like you assumed, it’s really hard to predict the people handling things in the government in Nigeria they might go behind the scenes and sell them like you suggested. But still, it’s their job to create awareness and never promote such things which is the right thing to do.

Sccarrr:
my take is that even if the ones you’ve taken so far haven’t been harmful, or if there are some fake products made for consumption that appear not to be harmful, it still doesn’t guarantee that other fake products out there are safe..
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They can put people’s health at risk and cause serious complications like heart, liver, or kidney problems. A lot of people have lost their lives over this issue. Fake products should be totally frowned upon and not encouraged in any way, my bro.

And the government does destroy them, and of course, like you assumed, it’s really hard to predict the people handling things in the government in Nigeria they might go behind the scenes and sell them like you suggested. But still, it’s their job to create awareness and never promote such things which is the right thing to do.

Nice submission bro, I hail

Kalulu44:
Good morning NL. I want us to calm down and discuss this topic very well. Do fake and expired products such as drugs and foods really harm us?
Let me start by laying some examples from my experiences. Firstly, I am not a drug/medicine/tablet taker or English medicine as most people call it. The only English medicine I take is blood tonic which was introduced to me some 10yrs ago by my late mum.
Apart from that, I prefer herbal medicine "agbo" than Panadol, paracetamol and co which has really helped me never to visit any hospital for over 30yrs and counting.
This blood tonic, sometimes I miss taking it for months and sometimes I take it steady for months. And with this I know how it works and improve my body when I do take it and how I emanciate if I don't take it.
Middle last year I was employed at a farm in a remote village in Ogun state. I couldn't find that blood tonic for over 2months, and luckily one day a guy started coming to the village on bike with pharmaceutical products and I asked for the blood tonic. He had it and when I asked for the price, he told me #1,600.
I was shocked with the price cus I last bought in Lagos #2,500. I bought it and started using it. For the 6 months I spent in that village, I bought from him 4 times. And to be honest with you guys, the blood tonic works perfectly as it has been working for me over the years. But the unbeknown truth was that it was either fake or expired ones this guy is selling for me.
.
Fast forward to earlier this year I was transferred back to one of the city in Ogun state. I went to buy this same blood tonic, and was told it's now #3,500. I exclaimed to the chemist, that I just bought this same tonic for #1,600 some weeks ago, he told me that must have been fake or expired ones. I then told him but it works perfectly without any side effects. He couldn't say anything but "e dey be like that sometimes".
That's scenario 1.
Some years back in Oshogbo I was working in a drink, wine and beverage store.
The owner of the store gives us most of the drinks to drink when they're about to expire or has expired.
There's a store where we keep drinks that has expired, and you can go take as much as you want. Though the owner always tells us to dispose of them if we don't want them.
We take as much as we can and dispose the ones we can. All thru my working there, not me nor any of my other colleagues complain of bad health, stomach pain or any other side effects pertaining to those expired products we used to take.
That's scenario 2.
Apart from this two scenarios, we or should I say I must have eating and drank so many things out there without knowing they're fake or has expired. And I still lived on strong and in good health.
I was born and brought up in Lagos, I can confidently say 50% of majority of things we eat and drink in Lagos are either fake, expired or adurturated. Why bcus I know majority of places this fake and adurturated products are being produce. But with this fake products seemingly out there in millions, Lagosians still survive and go about their daily activities as if nothing is happening. God forbid bad thing, if truly those expired and fake products are truly bad for health, won't we be hearing and seeing thousands of death everyday?
.
Sometimes a product been cheaper than the original one doesn't mean it's fake, just that another company tries to produce another one affordable to the common man.
My best cola drink is coca cola, but they're different and affordable cola drinks in the market for those that can't afford coca cola.
So are other products out there which are inferior to the ones we thought it to be but affordable, does that make the inferior ones fake or not good for consumption?
Some families can no longer afford beverages like Milo, Bournvita, Peak Milk and co. But they're many alternatives out there that are cheaper and at the end of the day you that used Milo drank tea, and they too drank tea. Tea na tea!
My last thought, I am not in any way supporting fake and adurturated products, but with the prevailing economic hardship, I don't think we can do without them.
As far as they're not causing harm to us.
I made this post in respect to the thread of Nigeria customs seizing containers of fake goods worth over #6b.
The irony of it is, yes they're fake according to the customs. But will they destroy it, I am very sure 90% they won't.
They'll still recycle it and sell to their cronies and it will still flood the market.
.
So guys I wanna hear your take on this issue regarding fake and expired products to our health and economy at large.
CJStarz
ruggedtimi
oz4real83
Pootle
Sonofwar
congo4ka
Mariangeles
Sonnobax15
CodeTemplar
brain54
Sccarrr
Fergie001

Who be the mugu wey get time to read this senseless epistle

Wotowotoman:
Who be the mugu wey get time to read this senseless epistle

First of, you're the first and only person on this forum i tried to be real friends with even though we haven't met physically.
Till date, I am still trying to rmbr anywhere I have wronged you or say something to you I shouldn't have said.
All of a sudden, you started attacking me with insults and bile. You started calling me Lai Mohammed, my stories are epistles or mumu stories and what not.
For over a month now, you have been on it trying to see if I will retaliate. But I kept my cool and silence, still you won't rest.
Please I beg you in the name of God, leave my mention alone if it's only insults you tends to throw at me.
I don't think I have deprived you of anything or owe you money or anything. I have never beg you of anything, so where your anger on me stems from is still baffling to me.
If you think my stories are fake and too long and tedious for you to read, you can do well and bypass it and focus more on thousands of legit stories on NL.
Thanks, I don't have any grudge against you.

Kalulu44:
First of, you're the first and only person on this forum i tried to be real friends with even though we haven't met physically.
Till date, I am still trying to rmbr anywhere I have wronged you or say something to you I shouldn't have said.
All of a sudden, you started attacking me with insults and bile. You started calling me Lai Mohammed, my stories are epistles or mumu stories and what not.
For over a month now, you have been on it trying to see if I will retaliate. But I kept my cool and silence, still you won't rest.
Please I beg you in the name of God, leave my mention alone if it's only insults you tends to throw at me.
I don't think I have deprived you of anything or owe you money or anything. I have never beg you of anything, so where your anger on me stems from is still baffling to me.
If you think my stories are fake and too long and tedious for you to read, you can do well and bypass it and focus more on thousands of legit stories on NL.
Thanks, I don't have any grudge against you.

Ogbeni, abeg summarize this jargons wey you write. Na beg I dey beg

Wotowotoman:
Ogbeni, abeg summarize this jargons wey you write. Na beg I dey beg

I really don't blame you, I blame myself for indulging you. Continue with your foolery!

It is what it is,fake and ADULTERATED,Not in any way good for our consumption

Kalulu44:
Good morning NL. I want us to calm down and discuss this topic very well. Do fake and expired products such as drugs and foods really harm us?
Let me start by laying some examples from my experiences. Firstly, I am not a drug/medicine/tablet taker or English medicine as most people call it. The only English medicine I take is blood tonic which was introduced to me some 10yrs ago by my late mum.
Apart from that, I prefer herbal medicine "agbo" than Panadol, paracetamol and co which has really helped me never to visit any hospital for over 30yrs and counting.
This blood tonic, sometimes I miss taking it for months and sometimes I take it steady for months. And with this I know how it works and improve my body when I do take it and how I emanciate if I don't take it.
Middle last year I was employed at a farm in a remote village in Ogun state. I couldn't find that blood tonic for over 2months, and luckily one day a guy started coming to the village on bike with pharmaceutical products and I asked for the blood tonic. He had it and when I asked for the price, he told me #1,600.
I was shocked with the price cus I last bought in Lagos #2,500. I bought it and started using it. For the 6 months I spent in that village, I bought from him 4 times. And to be honest with you guys, the blood tonic works perfectly as it has been working for me over the years. But the unbeknown truth was that it was either fake or expired ones this guy is selling for me.
.
Fast forward to earlier this year I was transferred back to one of the city in Ogun state. I went to buy this same blood tonic, and was told it's now #3,500. I exclaimed to the chemist, that I just bought this same tonic for #1,600 some weeks ago, he told me that must have been fake or expired ones. I then told him but it works perfectly without any side effects. He couldn't say anything but "e dey be like that sometimes".
That's scenario 1.
Some years back in Oshogbo I was working in a drink, wine and beverage store.
The owner of the store gives us most of the drinks to drink when they're about to expire or has expired.
There's a store where we keep drinks that has expired, and you can go take as much as you want. Though the owner always tells us to dispose of them if we don't want them.
We take as much as we can and dispose the ones we can. All thru my working there, not me nor any of my other colleagues complain of bad health, stomach pain or any other side effects pertaining to those expired products we used to take.
That's scenario 2.
Apart from this two scenarios, we or should I say I must have eating and drank so many things out there without knowing they're fake or has expired. And I still lived on strong and in good health.
I was born and brought up in Lagos, I can confidently say 50% of majority of things we eat and drink in Lagos are either fake, expired or adurturated. Why bcus I know majority of places this fake and adurturated products are being produce. But with this fake products seemingly out there in millions, Lagosians still survive and go about their daily activities as if nothing is happening. God forbid bad thing, if truly those expired and fake products are truly bad for health, won't we be hearing and seeing thousands of death everyday?
.
Sometimes a product been cheaper than the original one doesn't mean it's fake, just that another company tries to produce another one affordable to the common man.
My best cola drink is coca cola, but they're different and affordable cola drinks in the market for those that can't afford coca cola.
So are other products out there which are inferior to the ones we thought it to be but affordable, does that make the inferior ones fake or not good for consumption?
Some families can no longer afford beverages like Milo, Bournvita, Peak Milk and co. But they're many alternatives out there that are cheaper and at the end of the day you that used Milo drank tea, and they too drank tea. Tea na tea!
My last thought, I am not in any way supporting fake and adurturated products, but with the prevailing economic hardship, I don't think we can do without them.
As far as they're not causing harm to us.
I made this post in respect to the thread of Nigeria customs seizing containers of fake goods worth over #6b.
The irony of it is, yes they're fake according to the customs. But will they destroy it, I am very sure 90% they won't.
They'll still recycle it and sell to their cronies and it will still flood the market.
.
So guys I wanna hear your take on this issue regarding fake and expired products to our health and economy at large.
CJStarz
ruggedtimi
oz4real83
Pootle
Sonofwar
congo4ka
Mariangeles
Sonnobax15
CodeTemplar
brain54
Sccarrr
Fergie001

CJStarz:
It is what it is,fake and ADULTERATED,Not in any way good for our consumption

But we have been taking majority of them fake without repercussions and even working to how we want just like I mentioned in some instances

Kalulu44:
I really don't blame you, I blame myself for indulging you. Continue with your foolery!

E pain am

Kalulu44:
But we have been taking majority of them fake without repercussions and even working to how we want just like I mentioned in some instances

Na God dey save Nigerians no be say fake drugs good for body.
The water we drink here in Naija, d air we breathe, d meat we buy, d mama put we dey chop, everything na nyamah nyamah , even d motor we dey enter travel dey no dey safe,but na God , in His INFINITE MERCY dey save Nigerians

CJStarz:
Na God dey save Nigerians no be say fake drugs good for body.
The water we drink here in Naija, d air we breathe, d meat we buy, d mama put we dey chop, everything na nyamah nyamah , even d motor we dey enter travel dey no dey safe,but na God , in His INFINITE MERCY dey save Nigerians

Gbam! You have said it all

The blood tonic scenario tracks sha — most tonics are iron supplements and vitamins. When they expire, the worst that happens is they lose some potency. Not ideal, but not dangerous either.

The real problem category is antibiotics and antimalarials. A substandard antibiotic that's only 40% potency doesn't kill you immediately — but it also doesn't fully clear the infection. The bacteria survive, adapt, and pass on resistance traits. Over time the same drug stops working even when you take the genuine version. Nigeria already has high rates of antibiotic resistance partly because of substandard drug circulation.

That's the part of this discussion that gets lost. Fake Bournvita is annoying. Fake amoxicillin is a public health crisis in slow motion. E no be the same risk level.

The economic pressure argument is real though — nobody is disputing that. But the solution can't be "fake drugs are fine", it has to be better enforcement and affordable genuine alternatives.

what you dont know cant and wont kill you, i remember a friend who doesnt eat 404 that dog meat but another friend had a mission to ensure he does, so one day as we all flexing's as usual my friend brought the meat through the bar attendant that to drop like the other ones we eat na so guyman use toothpick dey pick meat every 5sec dey say this meat sweet and get pepper ooo when e reach time to go house na so the werey drop truth, this guy started vomiting all he has taken.

same applies to drugs or adulterated stuffs nothing happens initially until the damage is done or you become aware

Too lengthy to read, but try it for a week and see the results.

It might not be harmful to you, but it is to others, everybody's system is not the same.

Kalulu44:
Good morning NL. I want us to calm down and discuss this topic very well. Do fake and expired products such as drugs and foods really harm us?
Let me start by laying some examples from my experiences. Firstly, I am not a drug/medicine/tablet taker or English medicine as most people call it. The only English medicine I take is blood tonic which was introduced to me some 10yrs ago by my late mum.
Apart from that, I prefer herbal medicine "agbo" than Panadol, paracetamol and co which has really helped me never to visit any hospital for over 30yrs and counting.
This blood tonic, sometimes I miss taking it for months and sometimes I take it steady for months. And with this I know how it works and improve my body when I do take it and how I emanciate if I don't take it.

Middle last year I was employed at a farm in a remote village in Ogun state. I couldn't find that blood tonic for over 2months, and luckily one day a guy started coming to the village on bike with pharmaceutical products and I asked for the blood tonic. He had it and when I asked for the price, he told me #1,600. I was shocked with the price cus I last bought in Lagos #2,500. I bought it and started using it. For the 6 months I spent in that village, I bought from him 4 times. And to be honest with you guys, the blood tonic works perfectly as it has been working for me over the years. But the unbeknown truth was that it was either fake or expired ones this guy is selling for me.
.
Fast forward to earlier this year I was transferred back to one of the city in Ogun state. I went to buy this same blood tonic, and was told it's now #3,500. I exclaimed to the chemist, that I just bought this same tonic for #1,600 some weeks ago, he told me that must have been fake or expired ones. I then told him but it works perfectly without any side effects. He couldn't say anything but "e dey be like that sometimes".
That's scenario 1.
Some years back in Oshogbo I was working in a drink, wine and beverage store.

The owner of the store gives us most of the drinks to drink when they're about to expire or has expired.
There's a store where we keep drinks that has expired, and you can go take as much as you want. Though the owner always tells us to dispose of them if we don't want them.

We take as much as we can and dispose the ones we can. All thru my working there, not me nor any of my other colleagues complain of bad health, stomach pain or any other side effects pertaining to those expired products we used to take.
That's scenario 2.
Apart from this two scenarios, we or should I say I must have eating and drank so many things out there without knowing they're fake or has expired. And I still lived on strong and in good health.
I was born and brought up in Lagos, I can confidently say 50% of majority of things we eat and drink in Lagos are either fake, expired or adurturated. Why bcus I know majority of places this fake and adurturated products are being produce. But with this fake products seemingly out there in millions, Lagosians still survive and go about their daily activities as if nothing is happening. God forbid bad thing, if truly those expired and fake products are truly bad for health, won't we be hearing and seeing thousands of death everyday?
.
Sometimes a product been cheaper than the original one doesn't mean it's fake, just that another company tries to produce another one affordable to the common man.
My best cola drink is coca cola, but they're different and affordable cola drinks in the market for those that can't afford coca cola.
So are other products out there which are inferior to the ones we thought it to be but affordable, does that make the inferior ones fake or not good for consumption?
Some families can no longer afford beverages like Milo, Bournvita, Peak Milk and co. But they're many alternatives out there that are cheaper and at the end of the day you that used Milo drank tea, and they too drank tea. Tea na tea!
My last thought, I am not in any way supporting fake and adurturated products, but with the prevailing economic hardship, I don't think we can do without them.
As far as they're not causing harm to us.
I made this post in respect to the thread of Nigeria customs seizing containers of fake goods worth over #6b.
The irony of it is, yes they're fake according to the customs. But will they destroy it, I am very sure 90% they won't.
They'll still recycle it and sell to their cronies and it will still flood the market.
.
So guys I wanna hear your take on this issue regarding fake and expired products to our health and economy at large.

expired products...the best before date is usually a 'guess' as to when they start deteroriating. (Experts say that expiry date means quality , not safety). Experts indicate that one can consume product for some time after the Best before date.(in some instances for even as long as two years after.)

Expiry date? That;s another matter...once something has passed the expirty date, please do not consume.

(Always check any product you use for the best before date and buy from approved dealers. NAFDAC also has the scratch code you can use to check product authencitity).

Personally, I err on the side of caution and throw out products past their sell by date. HOWEVER, last year I had a case of diarrhea, and it was the night, and all i had was expired flagyl. I took it, and it did help, and I didn't have my health worsen...though I did buy unexpired flagyl from the pharamacy the following morning...


N.B: This is my personal experience. AS MUCH AS EFFING POSSIBLE, DON'T USE A PRODUCT AFTER ITS EXPIRY DATE. PLEASE.


As for coca cola...so long as the alternative product is NAFDAC approved, it's good to consume (and it's even better we buy Nigerian self).

Even Nigeria air we breathe, is fake because of many air pollution. Na only God dey safe us.

Wotowotoman:
Ogbeni, abeg summarize this jargons wey you write. Na beg I dey beg

Please this is a public forum and your opinion may not be the generally popular one.
I personally love detailed and self explanatory write ups.

princeade86:
Even Nigeria air we breathe, is fake because of many air pollution. Na only God dey safe us.

Have you lived in china and some parts of the USA? Their pollution makes ours look like small beans.

One top marathoner refused to go for the Beijing olympics in 2008 because of pollution.

Is red really red? Maybe red is actually blue. Unserious people, that's how they start and the clueless ones will start regurgitating their evil agenda.

Technically, expired and fake are different issues, but bottomline - avoid them. Especially when it's something that goes in your body.

To producers and businessmen building houses in their villages & enjoying luxury with proceeds from fake products, you will reap your evil work thousands-folds and all your efforts will end up fake and useless in your lifetime.

That it doesn't harm you does not mean it won't harm others. Our immune systems are different

Kalulu44:
Good morning NL. I want us to calm down and discuss this topic very well. Do fake and expired products such as drugs and foods really harm us?
Let me start by laying some examples from my experiences. Firstly, I am not a drug/medicine/tablet taker or English medicine as most people call it. The only English medicine I take is blood tonic which was introduced to me some 10yrs ago by my late mum.
Apart from that, I prefer herbal medicine "agbo" than Panadol, paracetamol and co which has really helped me never to visit any hospital for over 30yrs and counting.
This blood tonic, sometimes I miss taking it for months and sometimes I take it steady for months. And with this I know how it works and improve my body when I do take it and how I emanciate if I don't take it.

Middle last year I was employed at a farm in a remote village in Ogun state. I couldn't find that blood tonic for over 2months, and luckily one day a guy started coming to the village on bike with pharmaceutical products and I asked for the blood tonic. He had it and when I asked for the price, he told me #1,600. I was shocked with the price cus I last bought in Lagos #2,500. I bought it and started using it. For the 6 months I spent in that village, I bought from him 4 times. And to be honest with you guys, the blood tonic works perfectly as it has been working for me over the years. But the unbeknown truth was that it was either fake or expired ones this guy is selling for me.
.
Fast forward to earlier this year I was transferred back to one of the city in Ogun state. I went to buy this same blood tonic, and was told it's now #3,500. I exclaimed to the chemist, that I just bought this same tonic for #1,600 some weeks ago, he told me that must have been fake or expired ones. I then told him but it works perfectly without any side effects. He couldn't say anything but "e dey be like that sometimes".
That's scenario 1.
Some years back in Oshogbo I was working in a drink, wine and beverage store.

The owner of the store gives us most of the drinks to drink when they're about to expire or has expired.
There's a store where we keep drinks that has expired, and you can go take as much as you want. Though the owner always tells us to dispose of them if we don't want them.

We take as much as we can and dispose the ones we can. All thru my working there, not me nor any of my other colleagues complain of bad health, stomach pain or any other side effects pertaining to those expired products we used to take.
That's scenario 2.
Apart from this two scenarios, we or should I say I must have eating and drank so many things out there without knowing they're fake or has expired. And I still lived on strong and in good health.
I was born and brought up in Lagos, I can confidently say 50% of majority of things we eat and drink in Lagos are either fake, expired or adurturated. Why bcus I know majority of places this fake and adurturated products are being produce. But with this fake products seemingly out there in millions, Lagosians still survive and go about their daily activities as if nothing is happening. God forbid bad thing, if truly those expired and fake products are truly bad for health, won't we be hearing and seeing thousands of death everyday?
.
Sometimes a product been cheaper than the original one doesn't mean it's fake, just that another company tries to produce another one affordable to the common man.
My best cola drink is coca cola, but they're different and affordable cola drinks in the market for those that can't afford coca cola.
So are other products out there which are inferior to the ones we thought it to be but affordable, does that make the inferior ones fake or not good for consumption?
Some families can no longer afford beverages like Milo, Bournvita, Peak Milk and co. But they're many alternatives out there that are cheaper and at the end of the day you that used Milo drank tea, and they too drank tea. Tea na tea!
My last thought, I am not in any way supporting fake and adurturated products, but with the prevailing economic hardship, I don't think we can do without them.
As far as they're not causing harm to us.
I made this post in respect to the thread of Nigeria customs seizing containers of fake goods worth over #6b.
The irony of it is, yes they're fake according to the customs. But will they destroy it, I am very sure 90% they won't.
They'll still recycle it and sell to their cronies and it will still flood the market.
.
So guys I wanna hear your take on this issue regarding fake and expired products to our health and economy at large.

Please there isn't any justification for consuming sub standard and expired edible products or promotion in anyway. Aside the deception,peoples immune systems are very different and varies from one person to another.
It is like consuming a spoilt orange or banana overtime and you expect it not to have a negative effect on your health.

Kalulu44:
Good morning NL. I want us to calm down and discuss this topic very well. Do fake and expired products such as drugs and foods really harm us?
Let me start by laying some examples from my experiences. Firstly, I am not a drug/medicine/tablet taker or English medicine as most people call it. The only English medicine I take is blood tonic which was introduced to me some 10yrs ago by my late mum.
Apart from that, I prefer herbal medicine "agbo" than Panadol, paracetamol and co which has really helped me never to visit any hospital for over 30yrs and counting.
This blood tonic, sometimes I miss taking it for months and sometimes I take it steady for months. And with this I know how it works and improve my body when I do take it and how I emanciate if I don't take it.

Middle last year I was employed at a farm in a remote village in Ogun state. I couldn't find that blood tonic for over 2months, and luckily one day a guy started coming to the village on bike with pharmaceutical products and I asked for the blood tonic. He had it and when I asked for the price, he told me #1,600. I was shocked with the price cus I last bought in Lagos #2,500. I bought it and started using it. For the 6 months I spent in that village, I bought from him 4 times. And to be honest with you guys, the blood tonic works perfectly as it has been working for me over the years. But the unbeknown truth was that it was either fake or expired ones this guy is selling for me.
.
Fast forward to earlier this year I was transferred back to one of the city in Ogun state. I went to buy this same blood tonic, and was told it's now #3,500. I exclaimed to the chemist, that I just bought this same tonic for #1,600 some weeks ago, he told me that must have been fake or expired ones. I then told him but it works perfectly without any side effects. He couldn't say anything but "e dey be like that sometimes".
That's scenario 1.
Some years back in Oshogbo I was working in a drink, wine and beverage store.

The owner of the store gives us most of the drinks to drink when they're about to expire or has expired.
There's a store where we keep drinks that has expired, and you can go take as much as you want. Though the owner always tells us to dispose of them if we don't want them.

We take as much as we can and dispose the ones we can. All thru my working there, not me nor any of my other colleagues complain of bad health, stomach pain or any other side effects pertaining to those expired products we used to take.
That's scenario 2.
Apart from this two scenarios, we or should I say I must have eating and drank so many things out there without knowing they're fake or has expired. And I still lived on strong and in good health.
I was born and brought up in Lagos, I can confidently say 50% of majority of things we eat and drink in Lagos are either fake, expired or adurturated. Why bcus I know majority of places this fake and adurturated products are being produce. But with this fake products seemingly out there in millions, Lagosians still survive and go about their daily activities as if nothing is happening. God forbid bad thing, if truly those expired and fake products are truly bad for health, won't we be hearing and seeing thousands of death everyday?
.
Sometimes a product been cheaper than the original one doesn't mean it's fake, just that another company tries to produce another one affordable to the common man.
My best cola drink is coca cola, but they're different and affordable cola drinks in the market for those that can't afford coca cola.
So are other products out there which are inferior to the ones we thought it to be but affordable, does that make the inferior ones fake or not good for consumption?
Some families can no longer afford beverages like Milo, Bournvita, Peak Milk and co. But they're many alternatives out there that are cheaper and at the end of the day you that used Milo drank tea, and they too drank tea. Tea na tea!
My last thought, I am not in any way supporting fake and adurturated products, but with the prevailing economic hardship, I don't think we can do without them.
As far as they're not causing harm to us.
I made this post in respect to the thread of Nigeria customs seizing containers of fake goods worth over #6b.
The irony of it is, yes they're fake according to the customs. But will they destroy it, I am very sure 90% they won't.
They'll still recycle it and sell to their cronies and it will still flood the market.
.
So guys I wanna hear your take on this issue regarding fake and expired products to our health and economy at large.

To answer your question, that a drug or product has expired doesn't mean it becomes bad immediately. What the manufacturer is only trying to say is that from this point forward, they cannot guarantee the wholesomeness of the product because it will start deteriorating gradually. Which may not be immediate. I have taken stuffs that have recently passed their expiry date without any issue though I am not asking anyone to do so.
As for fake drugs, that's a different issue entirely. It depends on the basic chemical compounds/ constituents. If it is harmful then it could spell problem but people should avoid fake products by all means necessary. By the way, I'm a Toxicologist.

What is fake, what is counterfeit, what is substandard?

I asked because what is really termed as fake is not technically bad as you usually hear.

VERY HARMFUL.

I ALMOST GAVE UP THE GHOST LAST MONTH.

I WENT AND USE AND EXPIRED DRUG WILL USE REMAIN LAST YEAR; NEVER KNEW IT HAS PASSED THE EXP. DATE.

SEE REACTION AND CONPLECATIONS.

GOD SAVE ME SHA

nairalanda1:
Have you lived in china and some parts of the USA? Their pollution makes ours look like small beans.

One top marathoner refused to go for the Beijing olympics in 2008 because of pollution.

thats a big fat lie. Check ur fact well.

The fact that you have been consuming those fake and expired drugs for years without any physical repercussions doesn't change the fact that you are endangering your life silently on regular roller coaster.

More reason you see many Nigerians dying untimely death, fainting and wouldnt be able to wake up again.

More reason you see Nigerians alsays complaining of malaria and typhoid everyday and going for treatment.

You. Know what! Continuous consumption of those fake drugs does a lot on internal harvoc in the body. Most often, they lessen your humune system, reducing your ability of your body to fight off sicknesses that ordinarily your body would have fought off, protect you from.

Bro, fake is fake, expired means not valid, so should be trashed, dispose off...the manufacturers knows the harvoc of using them more than the manufacturer given date. So, always dispose off any expired drugs or whatever fake product you are consuming now.....

Don't kill yourself over expired and fake products....

Kalulu44:
But we have been taking majority of them fake without repercussions and even working to how we want just like I mentioned in some instances

When they say a product will expire at a particular time, doesn't necessarily mean it'll be bad at that date. It most times means that the quality may have reduced, not that the quality is totally bad. It's still good, but not as fresh as it was when it was newly produced.

princeade86:
thats a big fat lie. Check ur fact well.

Sorry, my dear, it's quite true.

Kalulu44:
Good morning NL. I want us to calm down and discuss this topic very well. Do fake and expired products such as drugs and foods really harm us?
Let me start by laying some examples from my experiences. Firstly, I am not a drug/medicine/tablet taker or English medicine as most people call it. The only English medicine I take is blood tonic which was introduced to me some 10yrs ago by my late mum.
Apart from that, I prefer herbal medicine "agbo" than Panadol, paracetamol and co which has really helped me never to visit any hospital for over 30yrs and counting.
This blood tonic, sometimes I miss taking it for months and sometimes I take it steady for months. And with this I know how it works and improve my body when I do take it and how I emanciate if I don't take it.

Middle last year I was employed at a farm in a remote village in Ogun state. I couldn't find that blood tonic for over 2months, and luckily one day a guy started coming to the village on bike with pharmaceutical products and I asked for the blood tonic. He had it and when I asked for the price, he told me #1,600. I was shocked with the price cus I last bought in Lagos #2,500. I bought it and started using it. For the 6 months I spent in that village, I bought from him 4 times. And to be honest with you guys, the blood tonic works perfectly as it has been working for me over the years. But the unbeknown truth was that it was either fake or expired ones this guy is selling for me.
.
Fast forward to earlier this year I was transferred back to one of the city in Ogun state. I went to buy this same blood tonic, and was told it's now #3,500. I exclaimed to the chemist, that I just bought this same tonic for #1,600 some weeks ago, he told me that must have been fake or expired ones. I then told him but it works perfectly without any side effects. He couldn't say anything but "e dey be like that sometimes".
That's scenario 1.
Some years back in Oshogbo I was working in a drink, wine and beverage store.

The owner of the store gives us most of the drinks to drink when they're about to expire or has expired.
There's a store where we keep drinks that has expired, and you can go take as much as you want. Though the owner always tells us to dispose of them if we don't want them.

We take as much as we can and dispose the ones we can. All thru my working there, not me nor any of my other colleagues complain of bad health, stomach pain or any other side effects pertaining to those expired products we used to take.
That's scenario 2.
Apart from this two scenarios, we or should I say I must have eating and drank so many things out there without knowing they're fake or has expired. And I still lived on strong and in good health.
I was born and brought up in Lagos, I can confidently say 50% of majority of things we eat and drink in Lagos are either fake, expired or adurturated. Why bcus I know majority of places this fake and adurturated products are being produce. But with this fake products seemingly out there in millions, Lagosians still survive and go about their daily activities as if nothing is happening. God forbid bad thing, if truly those expired and fake products are truly bad for health, won't we be hearing and seeing thousands of death everyday?
.
Sometimes a product been cheaper than the original one doesn't mean it's fake, just that another company tries to produce another one affordable to the common man.
My best cola drink is coca cola, but they're different and affordable cola drinks in the market for those that can't afford coca cola.
So are other products out there which are inferior to the ones we thought it to be but affordable, does that make the inferior ones fake or not good for consumption?
Some families can no longer afford beverages like Milo, Bournvita, Peak Milk and co. But they're many alternatives out there that are cheaper and at the end of the day you that used Milo drank tea, and they too drank tea. Tea na tea!
My last thought, I am not in any way supporting fake and adurturated products, but with the prevailing economic hardship, I don't think we can do without them.
As far as they're not causing harm to us.
I made this post in respect to the thread of Nigeria customs seizing containers of fake goods worth over #6b.
The irony of it is, yes they're fake according to the customs. But will they destroy it, I am very sure 90% they won't.
They'll still recycle it and sell to their cronies and it will still flood the market.
.
So guys I wanna hear your take on this issue regarding fake and expired products to our health and economy at large.

My friend 99% of the effect of these medications (like "blood tonic"} is PSYCHOLOGICAL. "Blood tonic" is iron supplements. A normal male very rarely needs extra iron. Almost 100% sure your experience with the medication is psychological