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Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by Kalulu44: 11:53am On Mar 20
Pootle:
what hunger cannot cause does not exist, baba no fit bear one more day grin
Hahahaha, this your comment just made my day
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by xxxx999jon: 1:12pm On Mar 20
Kukutente23:
Don't you understand English or is it Geography you're confused with
Nigeria and Niger fall within the same equatorial line. In fact, Niger even has a wider latitude and longitude than Nigeria's but the both have same line passing through them. This in effect means we're in the same time zone and since we both lie in the sub saharan tropical region, we have almost equal chance of seeing the moon same time. So a moon sighted in Niger is very valid for Nigeria.
please stop capping online.. Not good for your health.. Nigeria and Niger are not on anything equatorial line, because we are not even in the equator, not only that we are not on the same latitude.. So no way we can see the moon at the same time

Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by Incognito403: 3:10pm On Mar 20
dederocs:
Men made religion as a medium to the divine on the surface, but underneath, it's all politics, about power and control.
I think you're describing Paul's Christianity.
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by Incognito403: 3:10pm On Mar 20
Subonbon:
na English u still dey speak..
Sounds like someone has comprehension skill issues.
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by Kukutente23: 3:48pm On Mar 20
xxxx999jon:
please stop capping online.. Not good for your health.. Nigeria and Niger are not on anything equatorial line, because we are not even in the equator, not only that we are not on the same latitude.. So no way we can see the moon at the same time
Nigeria's longitude: 2°E to 15°E
Niger: 0°E to 16°E

Nigeria latitude: 4°N to 14°N
Niger: 11°N to 24°N
Time zone is determined by the longitude from the meridian which is set at 0° and has a 15° interval. Thus, Nigeria and Niger lie within the same time zone and overlap at the 11-14°N latitude. Thus, most weather events occur at the dame time in Niger and Nigeria. Thus, the moon appearing over Niger will factually also appear over Nigeria regardless of whether it's visible or not
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by xxxx999jon: 4:55pm On Mar 20
Kukutente23:
Nigeria's longitude: 2°E to 15°E
Niger: 0°E to 16°E

Nigeria latitude: 4°N to 14°N
Niger: 11°N to 24°N
Time zone is determined by the longitude from the meridian which is set at 0° and has a 15° interval. Thus, Nigeria and Niger lie within the same time zone and overlap at the 11-14°N latitude. Thus, most weather events occur at the dame time in Niger and Nigeria. Thus, the moon appearing over Niger will factually also appear over Nigeria regardless of whether it's visible or not
Nigeria and France, Sweden line in the same time zone too but the moon is not stationary, it's tidal locked to the earth whilst it revolves the earth if your latitude is different and your longitude(which determines timeline) is different no way you can see a new moon at the same time. The earth is not flat it's a globe that is even tilted

Have you even wondered why lunar and solar eclipses does not happen at the same time?

Have you even consider horizon factor of a location vis a vis height of the observer to view celestial bodies?
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by dederocs(m): 4:57pm On Mar 20
Incognito403:
I think you're describing Paul's Christianity.
A narrow mind always base things to the limits of his understanding...you are just a product of your parents upbringing, mixed with your religious indoctrination. Learn to discuss outside the realms of religion, based on facts, it will open your small mind, and help your life.
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by Incognito403: 5:44pm On Mar 20
dederocs:
A narrow mind always base things to the limits of his understanding...you are just a product of your parents upbringing, mixed with your religious indoctrination. Learn to discuss outside the realms of religion, based on facts, it will open your small mind, and help your life.
I discovered Islam by myself, Alhamdulillah. I used my own earnings to pay my madrasah fees.

This cheap and overused fallacy doesn't work with me.
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by Bukola94(m): 5:59pm On Mar 20
Kukutente23:
Scientifically Nigeria and Niger lie on the same equatorial line so the cleric is correct
The Nigerian boundary is artificial. We lie in the same time zone with Niger so any moon sighted in Niger is valid for Nigeria. There's only one moon not two or three
your geography knowledge is top notch. Technology has make things easier, moon and crescent can be sighted by instruments
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by Bukola94(m): 6:00pm On Mar 20
xxxx999jon:
actually not true same longitude and different latitudes will definitely make the sighting of new moon different, also there are scientific ways, satellites that can determine when the moon will be sigthed in a 10meters square any where on earth.. This religious leaders are just doing all this to stay relevant.. The date of eid is written on Islamic calendar already any other announcements is just peageantry.. Just like call for prayers and church bells.. It should be obsolete doing that.. Now that there is clocks and watched what's the use of a maranet in a mosque or something shouting call to prayers.. It's primitive.
satellite will get the job done
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by Bukola94(m): 6:07pm On Mar 20
xxxx999jon:
Nigeria and France, Sweden line in the same time zone too but the moon is not stationary, it's tidal locked to the earth whilst it revolves the earth if your latitude is different and your longitude(which determines timeline) is different no way you can see a new moon at the same time. The earth is not flat it's a globe that is even tilted

Have you even wondered why lunar and solar eclipses does not happen at the same time?

Have you even consider horizon factor of a location vis a vis height of the observer to view celestial bodies?
oh my God, we have geography expert on nairaland
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by xxxx999jon: 7:57pm On Mar 20
Bukola94:
your geography knowledge is top notch. Technology has make things easier, moon and crescent can be sighted by instruments
i tìre ooo. Thanks abunch.
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by xxxx999jon: 7:57pm On Mar 20
Bukola94:
oh my God, we have geography expert on nairaland
lolzzz don't mind me ooo actually a Geologist tho.
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by Kukutente23: 10:07pm On Mar 20
xxxx999jon:
Nigeria and France, Sweden line in the same time zone too but the moon is not stationary, it's tidal locked to the earth whilst it revolves the earth if your latitude is different and your longitude(which determines timeline) is different no way you can see a new moon at the same time. The earth is not flat it's a globe that is even tilted

Have you even wondered why lunar and solar eclipses does not happen at the same time?

Have you even consider horizon factor of a location vis a vis height of the observer to view celestial bodies?
Niger and Nigeria have almost same longitude. That's why they're in same time zone. Countries in same time zone or longitude will have same view of the atmosphere regardless of the weather conditions in each place. Lunar and solar eclipse cannot occur at same time because they are different. Solar eclipse is when the moon is between the earth and the sun while lunar eclipse is when the earth is between the moon and the sun.

The view of celestial bodies is determined by weather of a certain place at a point in time and can be determined by different factors
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by xxxx999jon: 10:18pm On Mar 20
Kukutente23:
Niger and Nigeria have almost same longitude. That's why they're in same time zone. Countries in same time zone or longitude will have same view of the atmosphere regardless of the weather conditions in each place. Lunar and solar eclipse cannot occur at same time because they are different. Solar eclipse is when the moon is between the earth and the sun while lunar eclipse is when the earth is between the moon and the sun.

The view of celestial bodies is determined by weather of a certain place at a point in time and can be determined by different factors
oh lord Jesus.. This topic is not about weather conditions.
Explain to me why in Sweden the sun is still up at 8pm and it's dark here in Nigeria by that time? Let's say June 20th.
Do you undersstand what Soltice means at all?

You can't sight the new moon during daytime because it's close to the sun from our perspectives.

Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by Kukutente23: 10:51pm On Mar 20
xxxx999jon:
oh lord Jesus.. This topic is not about weather conditions.
Explain to me why in Sweden the sun is still up at 8pm and it's dark here in Nigeria by that time? Let's say June 20th.
Do you undersstand what Soltice means at all?

You can't sight the new moon during daytime because it's close to the sun from our perspectives.
We're discussing the moon not the sun. Solstice has to do with the sun not moon and the sun has a different orbit from the moon. The earth revolves round the sun. The moon revolves round the earth. So it's only logical that both can't have the same phenomenon. That said, same June21-22 is when all of the earth experience longer days. The length of days is dependent on distance from the earth's poles. The closer you are to the poles the longer your day
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by AntiChristian: 5:18am On Mar 21
Kukutente23:
Scientifically Nigeria and Niger lie on the same equatorial line so the cleric is correct
The Nigerian boundary is artificial. We lie in the same time zone with Niger so any moon sighted in Niger is valid for Nigeria. There's only one moon not two or three
There's one moon not two! But whoever breaks the law will perish by the law!

No need for you Christians to chook mouth into wetin Holy spirit no get jurisdiction!
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by xxxx999jon: 6:49am On Mar 21
Kukutente23:
We're discussing the moon not the sun. Solstice has to do with the sun not moon and the sun has a different orbit from the moon. The earth revolves round the sun. The moon revolves round the earth. So it's only logical that both can't have the same phenomenon. That said, same June21-22 is when all of the earth experience longer days. The length of days is dependent on distance from the earth's poles. The closer you are to the poles the longer your day
jeez all earth don't experience longer days on that day, can you stop arguing about what you don't know at all? The more you talking the more you exhibit total ignorance of what you talking about, when countries in northern hemisphere experience longer days it's automatically shorter days for those at the southern hemisphere.. And yes we are talking about the moon and I just established to you that doesn't matter if you on the same time zone, sighting of the moon will not be the same due to this factors.. Been on the same time zone does not mean daytime and night time are the same. The moon revolves around the earth and the earth revolves around the sun, the sun it selves revolve around the milky way galaxy

You keep on arguing when you lack total no knowledge about this thing.. Just Google what you are saying it's not difficult. We learn everyday and no one is a fountain of knowledge .
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by Kukutente23: 8:19am On Mar 21
xxxx999jon:
jeez all earth don't experience longer days on that day, can you stop arguing about what you don't know at all? The more you talking the more you exhibit total ignorance of what you talking about, when countries in northern hemisphere experience longer days it's automatically shorter days for those at the southern hemisphere.. And yes we are talking about the moon and I just established to you that doesn't matter if you on the same time zone, sighting of the moon will not be the same due to this factors.. Been on the same time zone does not mean daytime and night time are the same. The moon revolves around the earth and the earth revolves around the sun, the sun it selves revolve around the milky way galaxy

You keep on arguing when you lack total no knowledge about this thing.. Just Google what you are saying it's not difficult. We learn everyday and no one is a fountain of knowledge .
It's not about fountain of knowledge or not. Where did I say all earth experience longer days on the same day. I said all earth experience longer days on the summer solstice including Nigeria. Some are longer than the others due to their distance from the north pole. I said that in response to your diverting to Sweden and solstice.
The moon revolves round the earth. Those in the same time zone should ordinarily see the moon at the same time depending on local weather conditions. Why do you think the fast ends at 30 days even if they don't see the moon? The simple answer is that they know that they probably couldn't sight it due to the weather conditions not because it was not there. That's the simple point I'm making out to you. Sometimes you might not sight the moon due to weather conditions. It doesn't mean it's not there. So if someone in the same time zone with you sights it probably due to clearer weather, it's a good as you sighting it too
It's also obvious you're assuming that the moon cannot come out until there's night. That's not true as well. You can sight the moon in the mornings and sometimes afternoon in some places depending on weather conditions
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by Kukutente23: 8:31am On Mar 21
AntiChristian:
There's one moon not two! But whoever breaks the law will perish by the law!

No need for you Christians to chook mouth into wetin Holy spirit no get jurisdiction!
What law is that
I didn't know that sighting the moon was an exclusive preserve of Muslims
It will interest you to know that most of the knowledge of the moon and the galaxy was given by those who live under the jurisdiction of the Holy spirit so you see now that you're just fooling yourself
Even the compass used to get your qiblah was invented by idol worshipping Chinese not Allah yet you still use it. Jokes on you
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by xxxx999jon: 9:20am On Mar 21
Kukutente23:
It's not about fountain of knowledge or not. Where did I say all earth experience longer days on the same day. I said all earth experience longer days on the summer solstice including Nigeria. Some are longer than the others due to their distance from the north pole. I said that in response to your diverting to Sweden and solstice.
The moon revolves round the earth. Those in the same time zone should ordinarily see the moon at the same time depending on local weather conditions. Why do you think the fast ends at 30 days even if they don't see the moon? The simple answer is that they know that they probably couldn't sight it due to the weather conditions not because it was not there. That's the simple point I'm making out to you. Sometimes you might not sight the moon due to weather conditions. It doesn't mean it's not there. So if someone in the same time zone with you sights it probably due to clearer weather, it's a good as you sighting it too
It's also obvious you're assuming that the moon cannot come out until there's night. That's not true as well. You can sight the moon in the mornings and sometimes afternoon in some places depending on weather conditions
ọmọ I give up abeg e don do abeg.
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by honesttalk21: 12:02pm On Mar 21
When comparing the early crescent viewing in Sokoto and various locations in the Republic of Niger, the latitude of each country is still a key point to consider. Nigeria's latitude is between 4° and 14°, while Niger's is between 11° and 23°. So although Sokoto is located at 13°, which is on the northern edge of Nigeria, it is still a bit to the south of Niger therefore, under the same weather and viewing conditions, a small advantage may exist for viewing the new crescent moon in Sokoto before viewing it in Niger. However, this is a small margin, and conditions may still play a role in viewing the crescent moon.
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by Antlisiam: 2:26pm On Mar 21
WiseBizInvestor:
But Why Would He Have Gone Against Instituted Authority?
He dey tell sultan say he is not his senior
Re: Sokoto Cleric, Sheikh Lukuwa Ignores Sultan’s Directive, Leads Eid Prayer by AntiChristian: 1:29am On Mar 22
Kukutente23:
What law is that
I didn't know that sighting the moon was an exclusive preserve of Muslims
It will interest you to know that most of the knowledge of the moon and the galaxy was given by those who live under the jurisdiction of the Holy spirit so you see now that you're just fooling yourself
Even the compass used to get your qiblah was invented by idol worshipping Chinese not Allah yet you still use it. Jokes on you
Sometimes or is it most times you types as though you're drunk or uneducated. Sighting of the crescent signals the beginning of a new month! Even the Yorubas use Oṣù as short for Òṣùpá!

All those nonsense you joined with holy spirit are usual thrash.
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