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| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Negroid001(m): 12:36pm On Mar 23 |
MaxInDHouse:Like how many of you have kpai because of ignorance. And how you jump to conclusions on things not found in the bible. Charles Taze Russell Breakaways ![]() |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by CaseSensitive(m): 12:38pm On Mar 23 |
MaxInDHouse:Bro you can't preach to a pope. I was born into a Christian family, attended church every single Sunday right from when I was only a few weeks old until I was approaching age 20 thereabout back in Nigeria so I certainly studied the Bible and I can confidently dissect the book for you. Apart from attending Bible study classes, I studied independently. I like how you mentioned "The Bible God", and that's exactly my point, it's "The Bible God". Inconsistencies and contradictions are abound in that book which I can point out to you. For a book that is meant to be a moral and spiritual guide, it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. When you said "The garden of Eden" and "The fall of Adam". Do you or does the Bible mean it literally or figuratively? I mean was Adam (and Eve) real people? Is the Garden of Eden somewhere physical or is it more of an allegory? You said there's one purpose for which faith in Christ was established, do you mind telling me this purpose? |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:57pm On Mar 23 |
So you don't even know what you are saying regarding religion and scam shey?😟 Negroid001: |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:14pm On Mar 23 |
CaseSensitive:When God used the confusion about language to scatter people in Babel {Genesis 11:6-9} He knew it will lead to more chaos because ambitious people who wants to rule over their neighbors will seize the opportunity of language to create barriers as they use tribalism to draw followers behind them. So God later promised to gather loyal and obedient humans from all the nations under the heavens and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 The person who will teach mankind how to achieve this is the Christ that is why he is rightly called the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} his teachings will make it possible for faithful people from all nations to become like brothers and sisters under his school of thought. Matthew 28:19-20 The formation of this global family will serve as WITNESS that the Prince of Peace has played his own part in getting obedient humans ready for their salvation. Act 1:8 So by the time Satan and his countless demons is ousted from heaven {Revelation 12:7-12} the earth will no longer know peace because they will possess billions of people turning them to killers of their neighbors {Revelation 6:3-4} but the United family of peace loving worshipers under Christ will have used what Jesus taught them to blot out hatred for their neighbors from their hearts {Matthew 5:43-48} so they will love their neighbors as they love themselves {Mark 12:31} and have love for their fellow worshipers just as Jesus was ready to die for the love of his followers. That is what will serve as identifying mark of obedient humans who are loyal followers of Christ! John 13:34-35 Today only one religious group meet up with this task globally known today as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that's why all the rest are always seeking ways to speak against this one group for their unwavering faith. Matthew 5:11-12 So if any religion is claiming Christians today but failed to meet up with this task Jesus said those organizing them are false! Matthew 7:15-20 Thanks for your time! |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Negroid001(m): 1:24pm On Mar 23 |
MaxInDHouse:I don finish baba. You have nothing to say. Gettat! |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by IJEYdiamond(f): 1:24pm On Mar 23 |
samwheel:Likewise iran..... rules of men!! |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:32pm On Mar 23 |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by 2mch(m): 1:39pm On Mar 23 |
jaxxy:Rivers and thunder better pass Shitzo teachings to refuse treatment at the sign of death. Missionaries are the first group sent to wet the ground for White men to steal resources Of which Africa has not been able to shake off because, new cults keep popping up. Let them leave Africans with their rivers and thunders. No African went to their country to beg them to liberate them from rivers and thunders. They went to Africa because they saw something they could steal not cause they like Africans. Sell out which brothers? Person come your house come thief with guns that can kill 1000 easily, that’s a whole village. Travel months to come and commit evil. You say someone betray their brothers and sisters. Tell me who betray their brothers and sisters and who fit fight gun with spear. You think you can come to NL and spread your fake propaganda. What were they doing on African soil with empty ships and guns months away from home? Bringing fish and chips? |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by IJEYdiamond(f): 1:42pm On Mar 23 |
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| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by CaseSensitive(m): 1:43pm On Mar 23 |
MaxInDHouse:Sorry to say but this is a whole lot of gibberish sandwich. In your submission, you're implying that "God" intended political and tribal chaos. You're also implying that true Christianity must exist as one visible, unified global organisation when in fact, Many christians (maybe not in Nigeria) believe that unity is spiritual and not institutional. Your biggest leap is the exclusive identification in your submission, it's pretty much like you're saying “Only Jehovah’s Witnesses fulfil this”. And I've heard a lot of those from the Mormons too, and the RCCG, and the Deeper Life etc. What you're doing here is selecting bible verses, connecting them into a narrative to back a denominational claim. If you want to debate Christianity with me, debate with at least a small iota of logic and intelligence rather than bible verses. Again, the texts in the Bible (At least KJV that I've studied extensively) does not stand up to scrutiny. Don't come back quoting bible verses. And maybe you mind answering my questions about "Adam and Eve" and "Garden of Eden"? Or have I lost you there? |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:48pm On Mar 23 |
CaseSensitive:First of all God never intended political and tribal chaos that's man's doing. Secondly Christianity supposed to be just one global group having the same teaching everywhere they are. John 17:22 So don't think all these religions claiming Christians belong to the true God in fact due to the atrocities they've committed in that group name the true God has given His own worshipers another group name today that's why you have JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES {Isaiah 65:15} fulfilling all the things God promised that His worshipers will do in the end time! Isaiah 2:2-4🙂 |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by CaseSensitive(m): 1:52pm On Mar 23 |
MaxInDHouse:I know your type. Bugger off. |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Emusan(m): 1:55pm On Mar 23*. Modified: 11:09am On Mar 27 |
kinsnazzy:Lie upon lies to cover up more lies! Didn't the announcement say "STORE AND USE..."? If your own blood is collected, clean and reuse. You didn't STORE IT. So, why did the announcer say STORE AND REUSE? |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:55pm On Mar 23 |
CaseSensitive:Instead of cherry picking what you like just come out openly and say you don't believe the Bible. I can take you from there it's not just about quoting the Bible Christianity is to help everyone so if you don't believe the Bible i will not quote it for you again then we can go for LOGICAL REASONING! 🙂 |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by jaxxy(m): 1:55pm On Mar 23 |
2mch:Go and read ur history well, African Kings went to Portugal to sell their fellow black man as slave to have guns to fight against their oppositions over land and kingship. The white cannot come a enslave u without collusion from ur fellow black man.. The river and thunder have nothing good to offer the black man. He was still backwards and in darkness despite worshiping such things. |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:00pm On Mar 23 |
jaxxy:They don't know their own history it's always blaming the white for what their own brothers are doing to them. If they don't believe there were times when their kings sold their fellow blacks as slaves to white people only to get a mirror how can they comprehend what is happening today? Are the white people the ones taking their country's riches abroad now?😟 |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by CaseSensitive(m): 2:05pm On Mar 23 |
MaxInDHouse:Talk about cherrypicking, which part of "I was born into a Christian family, attended church every single Sunday right from when I was only a few weeks old until I was approaching age 20" did you miss? Is basic comprehension now a problem too? Going on about cherrypicking, I put forward some arguments, you're only picking the ones you want to respond to. I hinted that, if a book is going to serve as my spiritual guide, it should at least stand up to scrutiny rather than blindly following like a lost dummy. I explicitly mentioned that I'd prefer to reason christianity and by extension, the bible logically, you evaded that and went on to quote redundant Bible verses. Essentially you failed the first basic test of logical reasoning. Christianity (Or Jehovah witness) specifically is meant for people like you. Sit down my friend. |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by 2mch(m): 2:07pm On Mar 23*. Modified: 2:31pm On Mar 23 |
jaxxy:Post that history book. You don’t even know your history. There was a scramble for Africa where they divided Africa without African input. White people were the first slavers of their own for commercial purposes not Africans. There is still a whole group of people Slavs who were their slaves. Trading with Portuguese come bring British with guns and ships. Who is backwards and in darkness? With all this backwardness and darkness dem still no leave Africans alone. Ok, Africans don’t need liberation. Leave them alone nau. Tell that to the African kings who were enslaved when they fought back with their whole household and sent on exile. Tell that to the African kings whose rivals were armed with guns to conquer them so some demonic set of people could get slaves to build a land they couldn’t build on their own. As powerful and intelligent as they are. They had to come all the way to Africa to steal darkness and backwardness. Despite having a whole tribe of slaves all over Europe. You see how you think? African kings sold themselves out but see how Africans had to fight for independence because colonists were still in Africa ruling the countries. They couldn’t even build roads, only ports where they could cargo resources. You no get shame at all. On this topic you should hide in shame colonist apologist.. |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:08pm On Mar 23 |
From what you have said so far you were never a Christian at any point in time but since you don't even believe the Bible again please leave that book and let us reason OUTSIDE the Bible. Are you ready? CaseSensitive: |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by 2mch(m): 2:12pm On Mar 23 |
These are just a few that resisted and it was documented. They are trying to change history now but they forgot to change these ones. What about the millions killed in Congo by the Belgians? When they wipe out or enslave kings, who will fight?
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| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by 2mch(m): 2:13pm On Mar 23 |
Make I go open Nairaland page to discuss the treatment of African kings by colonialists. Make I no derail una page. Sorry JW cult members. |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by 2mch(m): 2:17pm On Mar 23 |
MaxInDHouse:Can you present one Abrahamic religion they use blood to treat people? Can you also present one Abrahamic and African religion where they say it is banned? No Christian, Islam or Jew bans the use of science to heal. Except a cult sect within Christianity who now says it’s ok. By the way Science is different from religion. |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Courz: 2:17pm On Mar 23 |
Emusan:The guy cannot believe what he just saw. He is shocked and choose to misinterpret what his Governing Body said to suit himself. He cannot imagine JW will be in the mud once again. 😅😅 |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Courz: 2:21pm On Mar 23 |
kinsnazzy:Are you sure you watched this update very well? Or you are just too shocked to accept what your Governing Body said? You better go and start storing your blood o. Go and watch that update again. Your Governing Body was very clear. Why are you misinterpreting the whole thing? More shocking changes are coming o. Snap out of it and Prepare yourself. |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:21pm On Mar 23 |
Ọmọ there were times on this same planet when the so called scientists claimed animal poop is good for ointment to heal wounds back then only true worshipers of God (Israel rejected the idea so the same is happening today!🙂 2mch: |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by 2mch(m): 2:25pm On Mar 23 |
MaxInDHouse:Any loony can claim anything. It’s up to the discerning mind to choose what is right and not follow blindly. I posted a screenshot where Western JW were going behind the church back to get blood transfusion and not saying anything. But in Africa, the JW are more radical and strict about those laws. What we are saying is, always carry your sense with you and read your bible very well to understand church rulings. Don’t follow blindly and find another church if your church demands you choose death when there are options that could save your life. |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by jaxxy(m): 2:34pm On Mar 23 |
2mch:And who told u African didn't have their own slaves? So u think the blackman never knew about slaves until the white man came? Lol The blackman and African have always enslaved their own people, they only went further by exporting their brothers to the white man. whether he couldn't resist the white man or not is a different story but the African man was never innocent in slavery. He sold his brother to the white man. Atleast the white man didn't sell his brother to the African man. Also coming to Africa was in the age of discovery and the white man went to many other lands including middle east and Asia during this discovery era so the African man should stop feeling too important it wasn't only Africa. |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by 2mch(m): 2:42pm On Mar 23 |
jaxxy:What are you talking about? Every culture had slaves. Everyone! Only Europeans turned it to commercial twice. No culture had slavery for life. If you were a slave in Africa it was only for a short time because you were most likely a Prisoner or war. Many slaves in Africa even became kings of the kingdoms they were enslaved in. After release from their slavery they were fully assimilated and embraced by the society. Like King Jaja of Opobo. No culture had a barbaric and demonic system of slavery that the colonialist brought with them. Not even Asians. Yet you claim Africans are darkness and backward. Till today the world is in shambles because of the wickedness and darkness in the present systems. Slavery in Africa was much more indentured servitude. They were not stripped of their human rights. The ones that chose to stay after release were just servants. The demonic and wicked slavery meted by colonialists is an evidence of their own culture. Even the Brits were Roman slaves. |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 2:48pm On Mar 23 |
Leilanjleeane:Change is constant, but when your past utterances hurt people, what does it cost you to apologize ? |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 2:52pm On Mar 23 |
highoctane:Never claimed infallibility means they can make mistakes, So why are people pressured to always obey New directions from someone that can make mistakes ? How do you know the current view from somewhere that can mistake won't change tomorrow to you can accept all blood ? You can't be infallible and still expect 100% obedience Every organization has standard of ethics and our ethics and standards conforms with biblical standards.Since the past view was a mistake from your GB, what does it cost them to apologize to Families of those who died from that wrong interpretation? |
| Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 2:55pm On Mar 23 |
highoctane:I think you are very dum.b , sorry, the term was abandoned because of the lawsuits in Norway, and changed to removed. The Fact that you are willing to obey every stupid name change while claiming they are infallible tells me you don't have a mind of your own. |
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