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Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:02pm On Mar 23
2mch:
Any loony can claim anything.
So why must i follow whatever anyone says simply because such a person claims he knows science?🙂
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by jaxxy(m): 3:10pm On Mar 23
2mch:
What are you talking about? Every culture had slaves. Everyone! Only Europeans turned it to commercial twice. No culture had slavery for life. If you were a slave in Africa it was only for a short time because you were most likely a Prisoner or war. Many slaves in Africa even became kings of the kingdoms they were enslaved in. After release from their slavery they were fully assimilated and embraced by the society. Like King Jaja of Opobo. No culture had a barbaric and demonic system of slavery that the colonialist brought with them. Not even Asians. Yet you claim Africans are darkness and backward. Till today the world is in shambles because of the wickedness and darkness in the present systems.

Slavery in Africa was much more indentured servitude. They were not stripped of their human rights. The ones that chose to stay after release were just servants. The demonic and wicked slavery meted by colonialists is an evidence of their own culture. Even the Brits were Roman slaves.
U are only decieving urself, king jaja of opobo was only an exception and a peculiar case. thousands of other African slaves were not so lucky.

Every culture had slaves is exactly what I said but only one exported his brothers to the white man.

U can deny collusion all u like but that is the historical fact.
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:12pm On Mar 23
You can never ever find a better group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that's why none of you can mention the name of any church because you know that the JWs you left are performing better than all of them when it comes to Faith in action!🙂

jojothaiv:
(I didn't mention churches for reason best known to me)
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:14pm On Mar 23
jaxxy:
U are only decieving urself, king jaja of opobo was only an exception and a peculiar case. thousands of other African slaves were not so lucky. Every culture had slaves is exactly what I said but only one exported his brothers to the white man. U can deny collusion all u like that that is the historical fact.
Do our ancestors have slaves before the white people came to Africa?

YES!

And who are those they were using as slaves back then?

THEIR OWN BLACK BROTHERS!

So what are we saying?🙂
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by jaxxy(m): 3:16pm On Mar 23
MaxInDHouse:
Do our ancestors have slaves before the white people came to Africa?

YES!

And who are those they were using as slaves back then?

THEIR OWN BLACK BROTHERS!

So what are we saying?🙂
Who exported his brother to thw white man as slaves?
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:18pm On Mar 23
jaxxy:
Who exported his brother to thw white man as slaves?
You dey mind this funny people?

If not our own people can the white man come alone and start picking them in their homes?😀
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 3:39pm On Mar 23
Janosky:
Nothing was revised, pls get your facts from the right source.
Explain this from Enjoy life forever book page 255

Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 3:40pm On Mar 23
Courz:
And I am asking you again, in the midst of this worldwide embarrassment from your Freemason Governing Body, you think inviting someone to an occasion where the sacrifice of Christ is blatantly rejected, is the best move to make and you expect people with all this embarrassment covering you JWs with your image and reputation in the mud, you are expecting the person you invited to show up? No self awareness at all. Do you know where you are? Do you know what times we are in?
No self awareness
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 3:42pm On Mar 23
Prosper1912:
They want us to blend with them but bro no way, there are more with us than against us.
You are the one blending, The world has been keeping beard, your leaders just permit you to blend. The world has been taking autologous transfusion, they just permit you to do same. You are the one blending in
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by 2mch(m): 3:43pm On Mar 23
jaxxy:
U are only decieving urself, king jaja of opobo was only an exception and a peculiar case. thousands of other African slaves were not so lucky.

Every culture had slaves is exactly what I said but only one exported his brothers to the white man.

U can deny collusion all u like but that is the historical fact.
So Africans built ships and sent it to Europeans to come and carry slaves abi. Or how did they export? At least in this present world those large ships exist for trade. But to come to a continent where you have to guess how to get there. Brave deaths and sinking ships filled with guns to come and trade innocently with Africans. Yet stayed and installed yourself as the government till the Africans has to fight and chase you away in the 1960s. Wow. What a fair trade that must have been. If that is your idea of trade. Then you are not even worth arguing with. Just tell your government to give repatriations for all their theft and stop telling stories that don’t make any sense. Nobody sent you and your ancestors to come to Africa for any reason.

You did not say anything about the killing and the exile of the kings that fought back. I have 109’s of names of kings.
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by PaNnamdi(m): 3:47pm On Mar 23
MrEar:
They are not "waking up" to anything.

The leaders of Watchtower are battling numerous lawsuits, the Biggest of them all being cases involving child abuse and they have lost millions of dollars.

They tried their best to hide these cases from their members, even going as far as discouraging them from acquiring a university education. (So they won't know how to develop critical thinking and research skills) But all of their efforts have failed. The Younger generation of witnesses are not as brainwashed as the older generation and many are leaving.

The doctrinal and policy changes currently occurring is nothing but damage control.
Can u provide evidence of all these u are saying
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 3:49pm On Mar 23
Prosper1912:
The light keeps getting brighter
Not when people die for F00lish interpretation, people that would have been alive today .

Eccl 7:17 don't be a f00l, so you won't die before your time.
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by 2mch(m): 3:53pm On Mar 23
jaxxy:
U are only decieving urself, king jaja of opobo was only an exception and a peculiar case. thousands of other African slaves were not so lucky.

Every culture had slaves is exactly what I said but only one exported his brothers to the white man.

U can deny collusion all u like but that is the historical fact.
African slaves did not have slavery for life. We’re not tortured every day, sold like cow and enslaved for generations. I am Yoruba and till today there is no evidence of families who came into Yorubaland through slavery. That is how they assimilated. Now, there is a saying in Yoruba that how they gave birth to the slave is how the free was born so they should not be maltreated. But the demonic colonialists that came to Africa treated human beings worse than animals for generations and they must compensate them. End of story. With these few points of mine, it is evident who is full of darkness, wickedness and backwardness.
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 3:58pm On Mar 23
MaxInDHouse:
Honesty speaking i don't know o!

You said all these religions are scam.

Which means there is nothing serious to take home from all of them but now you are saying one is teaching heresy still.

Ọmọ does scamming have anything good at all to give you?😟
The former view of your Religion on blood was an error, how can you trust the new view? Can God sponsor falsehood? If God cannot sponsor falsehood, does that mean the GB only make things up?
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 4:00pm On Mar 23
iamL:
Normally.

And you guys should stop replying them there's no need. I mentioned him because I met him here as a brother and this will be the last.

Ignore them completely.
People died obeyin the previous direction, does it come from God if it turned out to be an error?
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Courz: 4:04pm On Mar 23
PaNnamdi:
Can u provide evidence of all these u are saying
What is Google there for? Don't you know how to use Google?
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by jaxxy(m): 4:12pm On Mar 23
2mch:
African slaves did not have slavery for life. We’re not tortured every day, sold like cow and enslaved for generations. I am Yoruba and till today there is no evidence of families who came into Yorubaland through slavery. That is how they assimilated. Now, there is a saying in Yoruba that how they gave birth to the slave is how the free was born so they should not be maltreated. But the demonic colonialists that came to Africa treated human beings worse than animals for generations and they must compensate them. End of story. With these few points of mine, it is evident who is full of darkness, wickedness and backwardness.
yorubas had slaves Anlaby where sold to the Portuguese as slaves for mirrors and guns by their yorubas Kings and brothers. Stop playing fake self-righteous. The colonialist didn't work alone there was collusion. undecided
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by jaxxy(m): 4:17pm On Mar 23
2mch:
So Africans built ships and sent it to Europeans to come and carry slaves abi. Or how did they export? At least in this present world those large ships exist for trade. But to come to a continent where you have to guess how to get there. Brave deaths and sinking ships filled with guns to come and trade innocently with Africans. Yet stayed and installed yourself as the government till the Africans has to fight and chase you away in the 1960s. Wow. What a fair trade that must have been. If that is your idea of trade. Then you are not even worth arguing with. Just tell your government to give repatriations for all their theft and stop telling stories that don’t make any sense. Nobody sent you and your ancestors to come to Africa for any reason.

You did not say anything about the killing and the exile of the kings that fought back. I have 109’s of names of kings.
There is a reason they called it SLAVE TRADE that's because it was a trade between the African kings and the whites not an invasion. undecided
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:17pm On Mar 23
Floww23:
The former view of your Religion on blood was an error, how can you trust the new view? Can God sponsor falsehood? If God cannot sponsor falsehood, does that mean the GB only make things up?
When God choose someone or a group to lead His people whatever mistakes they make will be corrected in due time but whoever opposes them is on his or her own.
That's God's standard from ages past.
So if you feel faith in God is too costly for you no one is forcing you to have faith!🙂
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by 2mch(m): 4:20pm On Mar 23
jaxxy:
yorubas had slaves Anlaby where sold to the Portuguese as slaves for mirrors and guns by their yorubas Kings and brothers. Stop playing fake self-righteous. The colonialist didn't work alone there was collusion. undecided
Now, one of my ancestors came to Yorubaland as a slave. He died a very rich high chief who was sent to study abroad and freed within 5yrs of his enslavement. These are the Africans you say are worshipping Thunder and Rivers full of darkness and backwardness? They seem to be very human annd much better people in culture annd character than those you worship. All that story of selling a human being for mirror is all lies by the ones who know how to pack lies in books and sell. And you fell for it.

You think the people that harmed you will not justify their treatment of you by degrading you? Same people put Africans in zoo claiming they are wild animals so they deserve to be enslaved by the Whites. This was their propaganda abroad. But they lie to you that you were sold by your brothers for mirror and you believe?
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by 2mch(m):
jaxxy:
There is a reason they called it SLAVE TRADE that's because it was a trade between the African kings and the whites not an invasion. undecided
It was not a trade. The claim of slave trade was a justification. What is happening in Iran right now, that will be trade after the war is done. Trade is done by equals. Not one person carrying a gun and telling you if you don’t enslave and handover people they will enslave you and your family members. That is oppression.

That’s like saying a thief jump all your security barriers, enter your house with gun and demand all your valuables. He now wears these items outside. People see it with him but he claims that he gave you mirror for all your valuables. Will you with your normal senses believe that? He will say there was a trade and you will let him go free abi? Very strange way of thinking you have there.
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 4:28pm On Mar 23
MaxInDHouse:
When God choose someone or a group to lead His people whatever mistakes they make will be corrected in due time but whoever opposes them is on his or her own.
That's God's standard from ages past.
So if you feel faith in God is too costly for you no one is forcing you to have faith!🙂
When the number of anointed started to grow in your religion, your publications said some of those eating the Emblems are Mentally ill. This is the pool from which u choose your GB members, Can God choose mentally ill people that make mistake to lead his people? You guys are not asking if some or all of those on your GB are part of this mentally ill?

What evidence do you have that they are chosen? In the case of Moses and the rest, they perform miracles, which evidence convince you that this men making mistakes are chosen?
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by jojothaiv(m): 4:43pm On Mar 23
MaxInDHouse:
You can never ever find a better group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that's why none of you can mention the name of any church because you know that the JWs you left are performing better than all of them when it comes to Faith in action!🙂
Alright!..

Oh! It's now a contest, that's great. Anyway, may everybody find whatever they are looking for then.
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:44pm On Mar 23
Floww23:
When the number of anointed started to grow in your religion, your publications said some of those eating the Emblems are Mentally ill. Can God choose mentally ill people that make mistake to lead his people? You guys are not asking if some or all of those on your GB are part of this mentally ill?
When it occurred in the first century Paul told our brothers in Corinth that those dying in large numbers is due to eating the emblem unworthily! 1Corinthans 11:27-30
Does that mean the Apostles and Elders who taught them about eating the emblem were not God's servants?

Floww23:
What evidence do you have that they are chosen? In the case of Moses and the rest, they perform miracles, which evidence convince you that this men making mistakes are chosen?
Good question!
God promised to use a group of men known as SPIRITUAL JEWS to gather obedient humans throughout the earth {Zechariah 8:23} and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses have successfully achieved that so the fruit of Christianity that Jesus said we should look out for has been evident in the works of this men! Matthew 7:16-18

Do you know of any religion as in any you can think of that had helped their members globally to become so peaceful to the extent that they love their fellow believers as if something is tying them together like glue? John 13:34-35

Ọmọ there is enough evidence unless you don't believe in what Jesus said about his chosen brothers and what they will achieve during the last days.

As regards their errors the Bible has foretold that during that time the sun will not give it's light by day neither the moon by night {Joel 2:31} so what will help faithful people during that time?

God's word answered:

Before the decree takes effect, Before the day passes by like chaff, Before the burning anger of Jehovah comes upon you, Before the day of Jehovah’s anger comes upon you, Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, Who observe his righteous decrees. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger. Zephaniah 2:2-3

So any arrogant person can't be saved because you will continue to question their authority but the wise ones who can see like EAGLES will gather around the Governing BODY! Luke 17:37🙂
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:51pm On Mar 23
jojothaiv:
Alright!..
Oh! It's now a contest, that's great. Anyway, may everybody find whatever they are looking for then.
Ọmọ people left Jesus in the first century and claimed he was mad {John 10:20} even some said he was teaching heresy. John 6:63-66

But do you care to know what keeps his twelve apostles standing?

Well let me quote Peter for you:

“Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life. We have believed and have come to know that you are the Holy One of God.” John 6:68-69

So i am 100% sure that you can never ever mention any better performing group besides Jehovah's Witnesses because you can't find one!🙂
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by jojothaiv(m): 4:52pm On Mar 23
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ people left Jesus in the first century and claimed he was mad {John 10:20} even some said he was teaching heresy. John 6:63-66

But do you care to know what keeps his twelve apostles standing?

Well let me quote Peter for you:

“Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life. We have believed and have come to know that you are the Holy One of God.” John 6:68-69

So i am 100% sure that you can never ever mention any better performing group besides Jehovah's Witnesses because you can't find one!🙂
You're right!
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:57pm On Mar 23
jojothaiv:
You're right!
Don't think i was born a JW no i was born and raised a Muslim but Jehovah keeps searching for His lost sheep that is why He called me out of my family to join His wonderful people.
So i can boldly tell you that throughout this planet you can never ever find a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.
Please ask any of these people here to mention the name of their church.

Do you know why they can't?

Well it's because they know that there is none that's truly proving dedicated worshipers like Jehovah's Witnesses so what they are doing here now is to throw tantrums against God's people.
🙂
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 4:59pm On Mar 23
MaxInDHouse:
When it occurred in the first century Paul told our brothers in Corinth that those dying in large numbers is due to eating the emblem unworthily! 1Corinthans 11:27-30
Does that mean the Apostles and Elders who taught them about eating the emblem were not God's servants?
If they die, they won't influence anyone

Your publications said they didn't die, they are mentally Ill, and if that's the pool you choose leader's from , Doesn't that show that Some or all of them are mentally ill? Will God use mentally ill people to lead his people? Doesn't that explains the mistakes.

Good question!
God promised to use a group of men known as SPIRITUAL JEWS to gather obedient humans throughout the earth {Zechariah 8:23} and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses have successfully achieved that so the fruit of Christianity that Jesus said we should look out for has been evident in the works of this men! Matthew 7:16-18

Do you know of any religion as in any you can think of that had helped their members globally to become so peaceful to the extent that they love their fellow believers as if something is tying them together like glue? John 13:34-35

Ọmọ there is enough evidence unless you don't believe in what Jesus said about his chosen brothers and what they will achieve during the last days.
No which love ?

See the attached screenshot, it's JW's literally confessing that there is lack of love in the congregation and most ar changing Congregation to find peace, Toxicity.

So which love exactly are you talking about ? Is it because your members ar not allowed to come to social media and share their toxic experiences?

Everything is covered up in the name of don't taint the organisation image

This is a F00lish point from you sorry, Still doesn't answer me : Where is the evidence that they ar chosen? Show me from Bible .

As regards their errors the Bible has foretold that during that time the sun will not give it's light by day neither the moon by night {Joel 2:31} so what will help faithful people during that time?

God's word answered:

Before the decree takes effect, Before the day passes by like chaff, Before the burning anger of Jehovah comes upon you, Before the day of Jehovah’s anger comes upon you, Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, Who observe his righteous decrees. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger. Zephaniah 2:2-3

So any arrogant person can't be saved because you will continue to question their authority but the wise ones who can see like EAGLES will gather around the Governing BODY! Luke 17:37🙂
Do we agree that some of those eating emblems from which you choose your leaders are Mentally Ill? With the regular mistakes showing they are not sound in mind, and the fAct we can't prove they are Chosen, everything you said here is dust

Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:14pm On Mar 23
Floww23:
If they die, they won't influence anyone
Your publications said they didn't die, they are mentally Ill, and if that's the pool you choose leader's from , Doesn't that show that Some or all of them are mentally ill? Will God use mentally ill people to lead his people? Doesn't that explains the mistakes.
What do you think was making those in the first century to eat what they aren't supposed to eat?
Sane mind?
Ọmọ angels were killing them back then because they were insane.🙂


Floww23:
No which love ?
See the attached screenshot, it's JW's literally confessing that there is lack of love in the congregation and most ar changing Congregation to find peace, Toxicity. So which love exactly are you talking about ? Is it because your members ar not allowed to come to social media and share their toxic experiences? Everything is covered up in the name of don't taint the organisation image. This is a F00lish point from you sorry, Still doesn't answer me : Where is the evidence that they ar chosen? Show me from Bible .
Now it's evident you don't know how love works so i will enlighten you.
Love doesn't mean imperfect humans will become perfect that's why there was grudges among believers like Euodia and Syntyche in the first century! Philippians 4:2
So what is the evidence of LOVE?
Two persons may have grudges among them due to imperfection but it can't lead to war because either side can never ever have supporters to that extent. For your information the wars that's leading people into killing people erupted between just two people who refuse to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves that can never ever happen where love reigns because neither side will help anyone to support them against brothers and sisters in Christ.
Do you get it now?🙂

Floww23:
Do we agree that some of those eating emblems from which you choose your leaders are Mentally Ill? With the regular mistakes showing they are not sound in mind, and the fAct we can't prove they are Chosen, everything you said here is dust
OK don't worry yourself further take it easy!😀
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 5:26pm On Mar 23
MaxInDHouse:
What do you think was making those in the first century to eat what they aren't supposed to eat?
Sane mind?
Ọmọ angels were killing them back then because they were insane.🙂
Angels are not killing them today, they are eating emblems to climb the ranks and become Governing Body members even if they are mentally ill. Hence the many policies that has ruin lives
.

Now it's evident you don't know how love works so i will enlighten you.
Love doesn't mean imperfect humans will become perfect that's why there was grudges among believers
like Euodia and Syntyche in the first century! Philippians 4:2
So what is the evidence of LOVE?
Two persons may have grudges among them due to imperfection but it can't lead to war because either side can never ever have supporters to that extent. For your information the wars that's leading people into killing people erupted between just two people who refuse to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves that can never ever happen where love reigns because neither side will help anyone to support them against brothers and sisters in Christ.
Do you get it now?🙂


OK don't worry yourself further!😀
Now you admit there are many issues among you all, thank God for evidence, you would have denied. You are claiming your people are not perfect, those outside are perfecthuh? No I ask, those outside u judge everyday, are they perfecthuh

UV just single handedly proved that you are not different from others. The GB has United nothing, no proof they are chosen , just humans dissapointing and betraying each other while covering it up with fake smiles in different congregations


Regarding war, Your GB had made policies that has kill people Just as Wars, from ban on organ transplant which kill many before it was relaxed, to Ban on Blood fraction before it was relaxed , and to ban on stored blood recently relaxed, Many have died, you don't need gun to kill, the Bible said The tongue can be a Sword of death. Your GB by their utterances has gone to war with many souls and kill them untimely.
NO PRoVE YET that this are people chosen by God
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:30pm On Mar 23
My guy i responded because i thought you are liberal so i'm really sorry if my response has gotten you angrier than before. So it's OK!🙂
Floww23:
Angels are not killing them today, they are eating emblems to climb the ranks and become Governing Body members even if they are mentally ill. Hence the many policies that has ruin lives
Now you admit there are many issues among you all, thank God for evidence, you would have denied. You are claiming your people are not perfect, those outside are perfecthuh? No I ask, those outside u judge everyday, are they perfecthuh
UV just single handedly proved that you are not different from others. The GB has United nothing, no proof they are chosen , just humans dissapointing and betraying each other while covering it up with fake smiles in different congregations Regarding war, Your GB had made policies that has kill people Just as Wars, from ban on organ transplant which kill many before it was relaxed, to Ban on Blood fraction before it was relaxed , and no ban on stored blood recently relaxed, Many have died, you don't need gun to kill, the Bible said The tongue can be a Sword of death. Your GB by their utterances has gone to war with many souls and kill them untimely. NO PRoVE YET that this are people chosen to lead Gods people.
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