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Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 5:31pm On Mar 23
MaxInDHouse:
My guy i responded because i thought you are liberal so i'm really sorry if my response has gotten you angrier than before. So it's OK!🙂
huh
UV just single handedly proved that you are not different from others. The GB has United nothing, no proof they are chosen , just humans dissapointing and betraying each other while covering it up with fake smiles in different congregations Regarding war,


Your GB had made policies that has kill people Just as Wars, from ban on organ transplant which kill many before it was relaxed, to Ban on Blood fraction before it was relaxed , and no ban on stored blood recently relaxed, Many have died, you don't need gun to kill, the Bible said The tongue can be a Sword of death. Your GB by their utterances has gone to war with many souls and kill them untimely. NO PRoVE YET that this are people chosen to lead Gods people.
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:35pm On Mar 23
Wait o!
Hope it's not what i'm thinking?
Courz is that you?
Because this default mode really proves something fishy!😀
Floww23:
huh
UV just single handedly proved that you are not different from others. The GB has United nothing, no proof they are chosen , just humans dissapointing and betraying each other while covering it up with fake smiles in different congregations Regarding war,
Your GB had made policies that has kill people Just as Wars, from ban on organ transplant which kill many before it was relaxed, to Ban on Blood fraction before it was relaxed , and no ban on stored blood recently relaxed, Many have died, you don't need gun to kill, the Bible said The tongue can be a Sword of death. Your GB by their utterances has gone to war with many souls and kill them untimely. NO PRoVE YET that this are people chosen to lead Gods people.
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by PaNnamdi(m): 5:56pm On Mar 23
Courz:
What is Google there for? Don't you know how to use Google?
I didn't say google prove evidence from the source or quote the sources u got your info from
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:12pm On Mar 23
PaNnamdi:
I didn't say google prove evidence from the source or quote the sources u got your info from.
When you here of CHILD ABUSE what an apostate wants you to think is a full grown man sexually molesting a minor but the truth is these people are liars.

According to God's word it's the duty of the man of the house to discipline his children or children under their care.
So a father can beat a child who chose to be rebellious. Proverbs 22:15

Another case is that of some children who knew their parents are really loving and caring but such a child doesn't want to practice his parents religion.

The first case is taken as child abuse in western countries and the second case such a child may get his or her father sued and taken to court for not allowing him or her do whatever please them.

Here in Africa parents have the right to discipline their disobedient children so you can't hear of such cases in Africa.

That's why i always ask these liars to present one case here in Africa after all they want everyone to see JWs all around the world as child molesters!

If you check the below information you will know that it's not about SEX but beating your stubborn child that the West tag as child abuse!🙂

Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 6:22pm On Mar 23
MaxInDHouse:
Wait o!
Hope it's not what i'm thinking?
Courz is that you?
Because this default mode really proves something fishy!😀
You think I'm an idio.t you can fool with the love among yourself card? The evidence is there , no love among you people , You try to play the war Card the usual script, but the Sword of the tongue of your GB and it's changing policies has killed more lives than Nigerian Civil War.

I can see you are stuck at this point.

Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by jaxxy(m): 6:22pm On Mar 23
2mch:
It was not a trade. The claim of slave trade was a justification. What is happening in Iran right now, that will be trade after the war is done. Trade is done by equals. Not one person carrying a gun and telling you if you don’t enslave and handover people they will enslave you and your family members. That is oppression.

That’s like saying a thief jump all your security barriers, enter your house with gun and demand all your valuables. He now wears these items outside. People see it with him but he claims that he gave you mirror for all your valuables. Will you with your normal senses believe that? He will say there was a trade and you will let him go free abi? Very strange way of thinking you have there.
Iran and US are not equals but whatever.

2ndly it was a trade because ur ancestors where already carrying out slavery b4 the white man came so it was obviously not hard with a little incentive like mirrors and guns to get him to export his brother slaves to the oyibo man.

Take it or leave it there was collusion. Africa was not the only colony of the west and neither was it the only place the west passed through during the discovery era.

ur ancestors where the real MVP's.
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:28pm On Mar 23
Floww23:
You think I'm an idio.t you can fool with the love among yourself card? The evidence is there , no love among you people , You try to play the war Card the usual script, but the Sword of the tongue of your GB and it's changing policies has killed more lives than Nigerian Civil War.
I can see you are stuck at this point.
Please do you have the statistics not just the emotional blackmail thing?🙂
Can you present the number of JWs that died because they refuse blood transfusion and JWs that survived without blood transfusion?
Thanks in advance.

And as for LOVE i told you some Christians in the first century do have grudges among them but there is no one to support either side that's where the grudge will die naturally but in other religions millions have died due to wars erupting from grudges between just two people.
The statistics are over the Internet if you care to know how many people has been killed due to wars!🙂
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by jaxxy(m): 6:28pm On Mar 23
2mch:
Now, one of my ancestors came to Yorubaland as a slave. He died a very rich high chief who was sent to study abroad and freed within 5yrs of his enslavement. These are the Africans you say are worshipping Thunder and Rivers full of darkness and backwardness? They seem to be very human annd much better people in culture annd character than those you worship. All that story of selling a human being for mirror is all lies by the ones who know how to pack lies in books and sell. And you fell for it.

You think the people that harmed you will not justify their treatment of you by degrading you? Same people put Africans in zoo claiming they are wild animals so they deserve to be enslaved by the Whites. This was their propaganda abroad. But they lie to you that you were sold by your brothers for mirror and you believe?
The emboldened which u mentioned is the differentiator from thos backward and in darkness worshipping river and thunder so I'm happy u mentioned that part.

2ndly I said there was collision and that simply means the crime was by both sides agreeing to commit a crime and not that the white man was a saint. Both were criminals. I only told u to take accountability not looking at the white man's fault only or else u are playing to the victims mentality.
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Courz: 6:28pm On Mar 23
PaNnamdi:
I didn't say google prove evidence from the source or quote the sources u got your info from
Who will provide source for you? Look at some of your members here denying this new update upon all the evidence they have. Upon all the evidence people showed you that you're in a cult, did you listen? So, why will any right thinking person take the pains to provide proof when you have hands and Google? Every other person that investigated your Cult found what they wanted through Google. If you like, stay there and wait for proof. Don't be lazy. Use your hands and type on Google. Go to YouTube. Go to TikTok. No thunder will strike you from Bethel Headquarters if you go and investigate yourself.
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 6:31pm On Mar 23
PaNnamdi:
Can u provide evidence of all these u are saying
Read up Australian Royal commission inquiries about Child abuse into the Jehovah's witnesses religion, a Big Case around 2016 that led to your organisation admitting in a watchtower study that child abusers are in the congregation

Many of you act like you are still living in 1990

I don't blame you, they only show you what they want you to see

When they lose in Norway, they didn't post anything on the website, when they won the appeal after lying and editing thier policies on disfellowship people , even deleting the Famous video Loyally uphold Jehovah's judgement - shun unrepentant wrongdoers. From their website, they quickly post the sham victory

Now that Norway went to Supreme court, they won't post if they end up losing. They are playing with your head
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Floww23: 6:36pm On Mar 23
MaxInDHouse:
Please do you have the statistics not just the emotional blackmail thing?🙂
Can you present the number of JWs that died because they refuse blood transfusion and JWs that survived without blood transfusion?
Thanks in advance.
If people are not dying in high numbers, your religion won't be making changes from organ transplant to blood fractions and now storing your own blood. Did GB kill people with their utterances? Yes. Simple, get the point

Not even an apologies for the lives they have ruined, families that are suffering now because of past mistaken policies.



And as for LOVE i told you some Christians in the first century do have grudges among them but there is no one to support either side that's where the grudge will die naturally but in other religions millions have died due to wars erupting from grudges between just two people.
The statistics are over the Internet if you care to know how many people has been killed due to wars!🙂
Millions have also died due to the Words of the GB , you think killing happen only when you carry Gun ? The Bible said life and death is in the tongue, with mistake. Utterances, GB has killed many in Psychological Wars.

If your members are keeping grudges with one another and changing congregation cos of toxicity, then you ain't different from others. Your GB isn't chosen by any means , that's if they are not even mentally ill as your publications call those who eat emblems
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by 2mch(m): 6:38pm On Mar 23
jaxxy:
The emboldened which u mentioned is the differentiator from thos backward and in darkness worshipping river and thunder so I'm happy u mentioned that part.

2ndly I said there was collision and that simply means the crime was by both sides agreeing to commit a crime and not that the white man was a saint. Both were criminals. I only told u to take accountability not looking at the white man's fault only or else u are playing to the victims mentality.
There was no collusion. No one authorized anyone to come to their country with guns and kidnap people into live long and ancestral servitude. You can’t claim collusion when only you have a deadly weapon. You lose all argument of innocence and collusion when you brandish a weapon as a negotiating tool.
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:39pm On Mar 23
Floww23:
If people are not dying in high numbers, your religion won't be making changes from organ transplant to blood fractions and now storing your own blood.
So you don't have the statistics. right?
Below is the statistics regarding death caused by wars (something JWs don't get involved at all) and blood transfusion which we detests due to our faith.

Oya compare Sir!🙂

Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by jaxxy(m): 6:46pm On Mar 23
2mch:
There was no collusion. No one authorized anyone to come to their country with guns and kidnap people into live long and ancestral servitude. You can’t claim collusion when only you have a deadly weapon. You lose all argument of innocence and collusion when you brandish a weapon as a negotiating tool.
ure right ur King's kidnapped their brothers and handed them over to the Portuguese. undecided
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by 2mch(m): 6:53pm On Mar 23
jaxxy:
ure right ur King's kidnapped their brothers and handed them over to the Portuguese. undecided
The same kings that were killed for resisting like the ones below. It was so bad that colonialists had to build forts to protect their kidnapping and themselves from Africans attacking to release their kin. Your logic and reasoning doesn’t make sense. A thief comes to steal with gun but claims his victim planned it, invited him and handed over to him all his valuables for mirror and biscuit.

Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by jaxxy(m): 7:05pm On Mar 23
2mch:
The same kings that were killed for resisting like the ones below. It was so bad that colonialists had to build forts to protect their kidnapping and themselves from Africans attacking to release their kin. Your logic and reasoning doesn’t make sense. A thief comes to steal with gun but claims his victim planned it, invited him and handed over to him all his valuables for mirror and biscuit.
Slave trade is quite different from the colonial invasion/rule even tho related. The trade still happened.

Also Africa was not the only colony or country invaded by the west but how come they were the only ones forced to trade the brothers who they had already made many their slaves anyways?
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by 2mch(m): 7:07pm On Mar 23
jaxxy:
Slave trade is quite different from the colonial invasion/rule even tho related. The trade still happened.

Also Africa was not the only colony or country invaded by the west but how come they were the only ones forced to trade the brothers who they had already made many their slaves anyways?
Slave trade is not different from colonial rule. It is an extension of it. That is why we had to fight for independence also known as freedom. You are just arguing a moot point.
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:12pm On Mar 23
jaxxy:
Slave trade is quite different from the colonial invasion/rule even tho related. The trade still happened.
Do you see the unreasonableness of people now?
How in the world can someone be comparing invasion which was meant to rule over you to slave trade that your own people have established already before the coming of the white man?
According to the history of Ilé-Ifẹ̀ a tribe used to invade the town during the time of Mọrèmi.
The invaders weren't white o!😟
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:16pm On Mar 23
2mch:
Slave trade is not different from colonial rule. It is an extension of it. That is why we had to fight for independence also known as freedom. You are just arguing a moot point.
So after the independence it's now 66 years that Nigeria got our independence abeg back then our people will run into hiding when they see the white man ship on the shore but today let America come with their ship and tell our people "we are taking you their as slaves" millions will die while struggling to enter the white man ship.
WHY?
Because they're please to go and work under the white man than under their own black rulers!😀
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:19pm On Mar 23
Where are the people crying over JWs rejection of blood transfusion?🙂

MaxInDHouse:
So you don't have the statistics. right?
Below is the statistics regarding death caused by wars (something JWs don't get involved at all) and blood transfusion which we detests due to our faith.

Oya compare Sir!🙂

Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by 2mch(m): 7:20pm On Mar 23
MaxInDHouse:
So after the independence it's now 66 years that Nigeria got our independence abeg back then our people will run into hiding when they see the white man ship on the shore but today let America come with their ship and tell our people "we are taking you their as slaves" millions will die while struggling to enter the white man ship.
WHY?
Because they're please to go and work under the white man than under their own black rulers!😀
Of course people like you will enter. They are already instructing you how to kill yourself and you have no problem with it. What is slavery compared to death?
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m):
2mch:
Of course people like you will enter. They are already instructing you how to kill yourself and you have no problem with it. What is slavery compared to death?
Ọmọ i am comfortable with my life here in Nigeria i'm only telling you what i used to see at times when i visit my friend at the immigration office seeing thousands of Nigerians waiting for their international passport.
It's my friend who convinced me to renew mine because i don't think of living my home for any reason.
The only problem of you people have is not ready to take responsibility instead you just want to shift blame for your failure.
No be white man be our problem nah our own people!🙂
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by kinsnazzy: 9:56pm On Mar 23
You are right since bible did not comment on the use of a person blood on medical and surgical a Christian can decide to store his own blood. Thanks every one. But not the use of someone else blood for medical or surgical procedure
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by kinsnazzy: 9:57pm On Mar 23
Just as a Christian can choose to store her ovaries etc for later use
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:03pm On Mar 23
kinsnazzy:
Just as a Christian can choose to store her ovaries etc for later use
The truth is some people just gets turned on at the mention of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES and the next thing is they become restless!🙂
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by kinsnazzy: 10:17pm On Mar 23
yes o. The governing body is not the controller of the destiny of any christian. Jesus still remains the head of the congregation They are also humans not spirit
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by chimex38: 10:46pm On Mar 23
They ve doctors and medical personnel amongst them. How do they treat other patients who require blood in their hospital?
Cuz I presume it may conflict with their medical oath.

I presume the safest thing is to refer such patients to another hospital?

Buh what if their hospital is the referred one?
As the CMD,
As the only Doctor on duty.
and As part of a team of Doctors.

Where do they draw the line without losing and compromising their faith?
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by Alikoooooooooo: 12:17am On Mar 24
highoctane:
You're cordially invited to attend at any kingdom hall of Jehovah's Witnesses near you.
Free to attend
No Collection is taken
Dress code, any respectable attire within your community.
Thanks as you see to this matter
God Forbide
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by highoctane: 6:13am On Mar 24
Floww23:
Never claimed infallibility means they can make mistakes, So why are people pressured to always obey New directions from someone that can make mistakes ? How do you know the current view from somewhere that can mistake won't change tomorrow to you can accept all blood ?

You can't be infallible and still expect 100% obedience




Since the past view was a mistake from your GB, what does it cost them to apologize to Families of those who died from that wrong interpretation?
Read the Bible book of John 6:55,56, 66-68. the gist Jesus said something very outlandish that tettered towards canablism. verse 68 is an interesting determination by those who are governed by holy spirit.
Millions have come to a conclusion that Pure spiritual resides and stays among Jehovah's earthly organisation.
Re: Former Jehovah Witness David Hundeyin Reacts To New JW Blood Doctrine by highoctane: 6:20am On Mar 24
Floww23:
I think you are very dum.b , sorry, the term was abandoned because of the lawsuits in Norway, and changed to removed. The Fact that you are willing to obey every stupid name change while claiming they are infallible tells me you don't have a mind of your own.
I am gullible with 5 stars honors, like the faithful apostles of Jesus Christ.
Read Read the Bible book of John 6:55,56, 66-68. the gist Jesus said something very outlandish that tettered towards canablism. verse 68 is an interesting determination by those who are governed by holy spirit.( you may call the apostles gullible? exactly what the Pharisees will do)
Millions have come to a conclusion that Pure spiritual truth resides and stays with Jehovah's earthly organization.
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