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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by erniok(m): 8:22am On Mar 26
WriteerNg:


Because the downing usually occurs near the border. Sometimes the pilots manage to steer the destroyed aircraft to neighboring friendly countries.

Sometimes the US & neighboring countries sends special forces to retrieve the pilot and destroy the aircraft completely.
Point one acceptable but that should be rare since the objective should be to down them inside Tehran as deterrence.

Point 2 reads funny. Why won't Iranian military engage those special forces? Any reason? Do they literally vaporise the aircraft as no single evidence is left behind as against what happened when the US took out Osama.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 8:33am On Mar 26
erniok:
Point one acceptable but that should be rare since the objective should be to down them inside Tehran as deterrence.

Point 2 reads funny. Why won't Iranian military engage those special forces? Any reason? Do they literally vaporise the aircraft as no single evidence is left behind as against what happened when the US took out Osama.


I doubt any of those aircrafts have flown inside Tehran before.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 8:48am On Mar 26
Davida33:
One thing I have observed about this war is that people I expect to verify information before posting it are actually falling for propaganda.
You can support a particular nation while still being objective.

I was disappointed when I saw some people I respected here believing that Netanyahu was dead without any concrete proof. Even Iran did not provide any proof of his death, yet some people still believed it.
Now no one is talking about it anymore, as it is clear even to the blind that Netanyahu is alive.

This is similar to how in the early days of the war, Iran claimed that the Ayatollah was going to deliver a speech when he was reportedly dead, and some people here also believed it.
This is not only about Iran. Trump has also not been truthful about some things. I do not think anyone should believe what Trump says without proof.

I am glad that AI-generated videos is reducing, but please let’s be objective. Enough of the propaganda from both sides.
I am neutral in this war. I just want verified news, not propaganda, especially from the Iranian side.

For the record, this is not a religious war, as some Muslims and Christians are trying to portray it.
Sadly, propaganda is a part of war. And in a fast-paced war like this, people will believe whatever is thrown out. It often takes a few hours to days for the truth (or the whole truth) to become known.

For a start, Israel (and the US) are known to hide information. They lie about everything, even down to casualties, interceptions, and rocket impacts. So it is very very very very difficult to believe whatever they say. In most cases, we rely on assessments, patterns, past behavior, and news reports to uncover the truth.

That said, claims of Nethanyahu's death were based on several observations, including the fact that he disappeared from the public, and he and his son stopped tweeting. It also coincided with Iranian attacks on major Israeli military installations.

The fact that Israel itself went on to post AI videos of Nethanyahu didn't help either and further buttressed the claims that he was dead. I generally employ a wait-and-see approach with these sort of news, but don't be surprised that people believed it. Every indication pointed it to it being true.

Posting AI videos is a normality for Israel. A few days ago, I posted a report here from CBS talking about how the Israeli government was posting fake AI videos on their official Twitter accounts. The specific video here was of an Iranian Basij member being blown up. The video was AI but looked very real.

Lastly, Iran wasn't going to come out and just tell the world that the Ayatollah is dead. It can affect morale, cause his hardcore supporters to behave irrationally, put his replacements at risk, cause a power vacuum, lead to widespread civil disobedience, all of which can affect the IRGC's ability to respond. So it made sense that they delayed the announcement.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkiir: 8:49am On Mar 26
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 8:58am On Mar 26
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 9:05am On Mar 26
⚡US forces are hiding in Hotels and Office spaces after intensive Iranian missile and drone attacks on the US military bases across the region.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 9:06am On Mar 26
WriteerNg:
⚡US forces are hiding in Hotels and Office spaces after intensive Iranian missile and drone attacks on the US military bases across the region.


😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😭


First time for my life wey I dey hear say Soldiers dey work "remotely". Asin from home? 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 9:12am On Mar 26
⚡Russia is close to completing a phased shipment of drones, medicine, and food to Iran, per FT.

Details include:

1. Russia and Iran reportedly began secretly discussing delivering drones days after Israel and the US attacked Tehran

2. Russia has been providing Iran with "crucial support" including satellite imagery, targeting data, and intelligence

3. Advanced Russian weaponry could improve the effectiveness of Iranian drone strikes

4. Russia has declined Iranian requests for the S-400, one of Moscow’s most advanced air defense systems

Russia's support for Iran remains strong.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 9:22am On Mar 26
WriteerNg:


😂 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😭


First time for my life wey I dey hear say Soldiers dey work "remotely". Asin from home? 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂
Remote workers grin grin grin

Remote combatants grin grin grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 9:44am On Mar 26
erniok:
Point one acceptable but that should be rare since the objective should be to down them inside Tehran as deterrence.

Point 2 reads funny. Why won't Iranian military engage those special forces? Any reason? Do they literally vaporise the aircraft as no single evidence is left behind as against what happened when the US took out Osama.


I get one question for you:

Since Ukraine war start, you don ever see Russian jet wey Ukraine claim to shoot down?

And this na inside Ukranian territory oh. Yet you believe am. So why u no believe say Iran shoot down US jets?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 9:53am On Mar 26
WriteerNg:
⚡US forces are hiding in Hotels and Office spaces after intensive Iranian missile and drone attacks on the US military bases across the region.
🤣🤣🤣

🤡🤡 said the bases are empty, now they are working remotely. This is just a fancy word, the truth is they are cowards hiding in civilian areas.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkiir: 9:53am On Mar 26
FoolishBoy419:
Not a joke:

Uganda's Military Chief says "any talk of destroying or defeating Israel will bring us into the war. On the side of Israel."

"If Tehran dares hit us with missiles. We shall retaliate with our own missiles."
you too like play. This has to be a joke
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 9:55am On Mar 26
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 9:56am On Mar 26
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 9:58am On Mar 26
We don’t know if the polish leader in Israel is dead, we said they are not acting like he’s alive.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by erniok(m): 10:08am On Mar 26
WriteerNg:


I get one question for you:

Since Ukraine war start, you don ever see Russian jet wey Ukraine claim to shoot down?

And this na inside Ukranian territory oh. Yet you believe am. So why u no believe say Iran shoot down US jets?
How you know say I belive say Ukraine downed Russian planes without evidence.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by erniok(m): 10:10am On Mar 26
WriteerNg:


I doubt any of those aircrafts have flown inside Tehran before.
That'll make sense except I saw on a video done in what i belive was Tehran. The lady was explaining why they shout Allah akbar and said jets were bombing them.

Was that a lie if you doubt those jets ever flown over Tehran airspace.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by erniok(m): 10:21am On Mar 26
shoodboi2:
Sadly, propaganda is a part of war. And in a fast-paced war like this, people will believe whatever is thrown out. It often takes a few hours to days for the truth (or the whole truth) to become known.

For a start, Israel (and the US) are known to hide information. They lie about everything, even down to casualties, interceptions, and rocket impacts. So it is very very very very difficult to believe whatever they say. In most cases, we rely on assessments, patterns, past behavior, and news reports to uncover the truth.

That said, claims of Nethanyahu's death were based on several observations, including the fact that he disappeared from the public, and he and his son stopped tweeting. It also coincided with Iranian attacks on major Israeli military installations.

The fact that Israel itself went on to post AI videos of Nethanyahu didn't help either and further buttressed the claims that he was dead. I generally employ a wait-and-see approach with these sort of news, but don't be surprised that people believed it. Every indication pointed it to it being true.

Posting AI videos is a normality for Israel. A few days ago, I posted a report here from CBS talking about how the Israeli government was posting fake AI videos on their official Twitter accounts. The specific video here was of an Iranian Basij member being blown up. The video was AI but looked very real.

Lastly, Iran wasn't going to come out and just tell the world that the Ayatollah is dead. It can affect morale, cause his hardcore supporters to behave irrationally, put his replacements at risk, cause a power vacuum, lead to widespread civil disobedience, all of which can affect the IRGC's ability to respond. So it made sense that they delayed the announcement.
Propaganda is an essential part of war to boost troops morales and also quieten home front. US employed it in Vietnam war when they lied about number of viet congs killed.

But what purpose does that serve here since Nigeria( I believe we all are Nigerians) is in no way involved in this war. Whose morales are these Propaganda boosting.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m): 10:28am On Mar 26
erniok:
Propaganda is an essential part of war to boost troops morales and also quieten home front. US employed it in Vietnam war when they lied about number of viet congs killed.

But what purpose does that serve here since Nigeria( I believe we all are Nigerians) is in no way involved in this war. Whose morales are these Propaganda boosting.
Unfortunately, propoganda is the 2nd nature of the west, I guess smaller powers are learning from them as a form of countering the western narrative.

Propoganda by the west was used to destroy Libya and Iraq.

Same was used to reduce Zimbabwe, Cuba and Venezuela to what they are today.

The only country that actually withstood the western propoganda remains China because they were smart enough to lock out the west.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by tonididdy(m): 10:28am On Mar 26
Iran should apply more pressure



...I hate baby moves! angry
it's the single reason I'm pissed @putin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by bryght4u(m): 10:33am On Mar 26
Mikasaobi:
🤣🤣🤣

🤡🤡 said the bases are empty, now they are working remotely. This is just a fancy word, the truth is they are cowards hiding in civilian areas.
How dare you address soldiers of the "mightiest military the earth has ever known by far" as cowards?
Make Trump no cry for una ooo.
Una no want let am drink water drop the cup peacefully
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ghostagain: 10:42am On Mar 26
Please don't lie 🤥

(Indeed, you said: not a joke 🤣)
FoolishBoy419:
Not a joke:

Uganda's Military Chief says "any talk of destroying or defeating Israel will bring us into the war. On the side of Israel."

"If Tehran dares hit us with missiles. We shall retaliate with our own missiles."
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 11:19am On Mar 26
God bless putin God bless mother Russia
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 11:29am On Mar 26
Alamkiir:
Oga no one is perfect here we are all analysing the information we get. And we may be right or wrong.
Was isreal not dishing out AI videos of Netanyahu? What do you want us to think?
I Was of the believe that something is wrong with him if they keeps bringing out AI videos of him, which is common sense. Some said it might be cancer, while some said, he was injured. Even the people that said he died are not wrong, what do you want them to think? For god sake why will you be bringing AI video of your president during war, while he is alive
It was you who said it was AI and pulled out all manner of craps just to make yourself happy. Even the handles that you quoted as your source clearly had people disputing the claims but no, you must advertise your ignorance to the world.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 11:34am On Mar 26
Mikasaobi:
We don’t know if the polish leader in Israel is dead, we said they are not acting like he’s alive.
And you look at this interface and believe yourself it had come from Grok. Yet somebody's supposed to take you serious🤣🤣🤣.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 11:52am On Mar 26
WriteerNg:


I get one question for you:

Since Ukraine war start, you don ever see Russian jet wey Ukraine claim to shoot down?

And this na inside Ukranian territory oh. Yet you believe am. So why u no believe say Iran shoot down US jets?
This from you...
Dozens of down Russian fighters litter the battlefield in Ukraine.

While I still believe Iran possess some air defense capabilities but it's still yet to show the downing of US or Israel military aircraft, this with even both side flying dozens of surety per day.
Like I have mentioned before it's surprising no confirmatory downing of a jet has been reported even though by now realistically Iran should have down some couple plane as no airforce is completely immune from fire not even the US.
It shows two thing, 1. the effectiveness of the coalition methods (though I respect the isrealis more as they've shown more capabilities than the US)
2. Reduce Iranian airdefense abilities, which is not surprising seeing the vast airspace over Iran and large swath of territory to protect. With this it still won't be out of place if we start seeing report of US plane shot down over Iran- that's the real news not all this hit this and hit that without shooting anything down.
I believe a US plane will be shot down first before an isrealis, (they've shown reduce capabilities than Isreal)
Because how will an F/A 18 be carrying out a staffing run over Iran at low attitude till the point of being targeted by MANPAD? That is the recklessness the US is known for, they think real life is top gun Hollywood until they lose one or two planes over hostile territory they no go rest.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 12:08pm On Mar 26
odds of a ground invasion this weekend are now at 90+%

to the epstein 🤡🤡, the strait of hormuz is a strong leverage for the persians
so they need to gain a new leverage that they can trade for the strait of hormuz

so they'd try to seize something
could be kharg island, qeshm, coastline around the strait, chabahar port, iraqi border areas, or something else
they could even attempt to land in tehran or isfahan or tabriz or bandar abbas

persia will have to impose heavy casualties and parade captured 🤡🤡
that combined with the oil price going to 150 and the bond rate crossing 4.5% will end the war

they are going for broke
this is persia's chance to stick the landing in this war

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 12:19pm On Mar 26
V
Icktioaxen:
Cho Cho Cho..... No web search before posting. If you had simply done google search before rushing to type propaganda you wouldn't have embarrassed your self like this. grin

https://nypost.com/2022/04/04/ukraine-boasts-about-downing-russian-fighter-jet/

The first photo is a Russian su35 shot down by Ukraine in April 2022

The second one is an su mk30 shot down in August 2022

Third one is an su 34 that was shot down in Ukraine and the pilot captured.

Try to do web search before propaganda next time.
This no be news. Maybe he didn't frame the question well. Pictures of Russia jet shooting borku, it is not even a hotnews again.
Nothing Russian fit hide for Ukraine the live coverage and evidence from both side is unprecedented.
It brought in a new reportage on war showing the world live. unfortunately it has made a lot people less humane to the effect of the brutality of war.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 12:26pm On Mar 26
LordAdam16:
odds of a ground invasion this weekend are now at 90+%

to the epstein 🤡🤡, the strait of hormuz is a strong leverage for the persians
so they need to gain a new leverage that they can trade for the strait of hormuz

so they'd try to seize something
could be kharg island, qeshm, coastline around the strait, chabahar port, iraqi border areas, or something else
they could even attempt to land in tehran or isfahan or tabriz or bandar abbas

persia will have to impose heavy casualties and parade captured 🤡🤡
that combined with the oil price going to 150 and the bond rate crossing 4.5% will end the war

they are going for broke
this is persia's chance to stick the landing in this war

-Lord
Ever since the operation in Venezuela. Trump has displayed a level of needless recklessly.
With days to prepare and possible mining! Traps and defense fortification. Invasion of this island is like walking marines to their dead traps. This might play out like the desperate Russian battle for Kiev.
It's left to see how US will handle this situation better. Well they've got the air superiority, maybe bomb the hell out of those island, clear a mine free pathway, then carry out a amphibious landing with marines. But the problem? Amphibious landing will require you sailing ships close to Iranian shores, it exposes them to counter fire and against Iranian small drone boats hard to detect.
Scoring a direct hit on a large amphibious carrier will be a selling point propaganda. It's left to see how Iran will exploit this opportunity
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