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Floww23:
If the alternative are working, your organisation won't start allowing blood fractions, and storing of ones own blood. Give it time, it's baby step they will allow taking others blood too.

The alternative are not working hence this changes, use your head

The thing wey we done dey do for over 4 decades now.


Nah now day dey break?
Go and rest jare.

Floww23:
Who appointed the secret spies that became Elders ?

I want to test the whole God chose your GB theory.

Floww23:
if ordinary Elders are not even appointed by God, it's your GB that's appointed by God ? Secret spies Join the congregation and become Elders right under your nose.

The below is a quote from Watchtower January 2016

Emphasis on ' some mistakenly think they are anointed, some have MENTAL problem ' this are the people you choose to lead you , hence the plenty mistakes

Janosky:
I have one question for you;
Oga,which flaw wey God's people no get in your own Bible from Genesis to Revelation?
Perfectionism = chronic dissatisfaction
"Perfection syndrome, or maladaptive perfectionism, is the relentless, unrealistic pursuit of flawlessness, often driven by fear of failure and leading to burnout, anxiety, and procrastination. It causes individuals to set impossibly high standards, resulting in chronic dissatisfaction"
Have a great day.

Janosky:

I have one question for you;
Oga,which flaw wey God's people no get in your own Bible from Genesis to Revelation?


Perfectionism = chronic dissatisfaction

"Perfection syndrome, or maladaptive perfectionism, is the relentless, unrealistic pursuit of flawlessness, often driven by fear of failure and leading to burnout, anxiety, and procrastination. It causes individuals to set impossibly high standards, resulting in chronic dissatisfaction"


Have a great day.

Janosky:
Oga, who appointed Saul as king of Israel ?
What happened to him later?

Who appointed Uzziah as king?
What happened later?

God dey appoint people wey later do iniquity ,yet you want GB to appoint flawless people.
Guy, you want perfection wey no exist any where on this planet.
I dorf my hat for you .

MaxInDHouse:
Choose between what the Bible says and what you want to take since you are bent on accusing fallible men.😀

Floww23:
Do you know that disagreeing with Insight is disagreement with the GB, therefore you are an Apostate?

MaxInDHouse:
Read to understand instead of gullibly sticking to misconceptions.

Many writers paint an entirely black picture of Judas, but evidently for a while he had been a disciple who found favor with God and with Jesus; his very selection as an apostle indicates that.

Please when did INDICATION turn to ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE?

The insight you quoted didn't say that is the perfect understanding but an opinion which gives room for options. Just as paul gives his own opinion not ultimatum:

Now concerning virgins, I have no command from the Lord, but I give my opinion as one who had mercy shown him by the Lord to be faithful. 1Corinthans 7:25

Was Paul an anointed Apostle?
Was this opinion from Jesus Christ?

This is why you people are out of the organization because you don't meditate like the Beroeans! Act 17:11🙂

Floww23:
It says " EVIDENTLY" not indication
Meaning of evidently
Evidently means clearly, obviously, or to all appearances, used to indicate that something is plainly true based on evidence
They are saying those writers are FALSE , and they are true.
Do you agree with them ? Or disagree as the Apostate you are ?

MaxInDHouse:
According to them are they infallible?🙂

Of course they were wrong on that as the evidence in the scriptures shows that Judas Iscariot is a lover of material things and right from the beginning Jesus knew he's going to betray him and other apostles knew that Judas use to steal from the money kept with him.

Do you agree with the scriptures or the error found in the Insight?

Between Bible and insight which one do you think GB has no right to alter?🙂

Floww23:
It's Valid not to trust them as God's channel like Jehovah Witnesses claimed since they dispense mistakes as spiritual food?

Floww23:
Are you aware that you saying GB is wrong is you accepting you are an Apostate ?

MaxInDHouse:
Your PERSONAL opinion!🙂
I told you there are prophecies they are fulfilling that's why millions became submissive to them

{Zechariah 8:23} but if you choose to go elsewhere no one is stopping you.
Meanwhile they have said from the onset that they can make mistakes in organizational directions because they are not infallible.
I just don't grasp which part of infallible that's so difficult for you to understand!🙂

If you don't know the meaning of APOSTATES come and stop me from following their directives nah!😀

Floww23:
Nobody chose them, Elders are evidently not appointed by holy spirit as shown in the case of spies who became Elders only to supply information that led to beating, imprisonment and death.
If God chose those spies it simply means your Religion is Fake.

Floww23:
Watchtower 1992 Nov 15 p.20
“However, loyal elders never try to influence others to reject ANY of the spiritual food provided by God through the faithful slave. As Jehovah's dedicated Witnesses, all of us must be loyal to him and to his organization."

Floww23:
It says "ANY" none
But you reject the Faithful slave spiritual food in Insight? Hi in

correctguy101:
Na una sabi.
I'm no JW but I don't want no blood transfusion....
I've done donation for a friend though... But unless I'm unconscious, I'll rather kick jerrycan and get this body cremated aka burnt to ash asap

chimex38:
I like your stance more cuz it came from your own conviction and Faith not what someone wrote as doctrine that is now subjected to change...
That's the difference.

Floww23:
Saul was Humble when he was appointed, it's a case of good man go rogue,

Secret police spies Enter the congregation simply to Jail and Imprison by scouting for information, why would holy spirit appoint someone whose intention from beginning was to Jail the brothers ?

Option A: the religion is False, and God was appointing those spies as Elders as his instrument to torment False worshippers.

Option B : Elders appointment of any kind is not from God , and since GB are from Elders, this invalidate their claim to Be Gods chosen since Elders appointment is not from God.

Janosky:

Jude 1:4 & Galatians 2:4,2 Cor 11:26, spies (alias false brothers) no be today e start. They infiltrated,embed themselves in the midst of Jehovah's people in Paul's day.

Option A;(according to Flow23 logic)
Jesus disciples following christ were not of God,(example, 1 Cor 15:12 some disciples did not believe Christ resurrection) were false , not genuine because "weeds" existed side by side with them in their midst?

Option B.
The appointment of false brothers into positions of authority e that the Corinthian congregation is not of God,this invalidates the claim that such appointments from the Apostle's Council in Jerusalem were of God?

1Corinthians 13:9 "our knowledge is not perfect.
1 Sam 3:20 &1 Sam 6:6-7,Samuel made similar mistake before Jehovah corrected him.

Is Flow23 learning something from those Bible verses & Matt 13:30 ?
Even when our knowledge is not perfect, Matt 13:30, Jehovah's judgement is perfect .

MaxInDHouse:
So insight that most people don't even read has become FOOD to you shey?
Guy no one survives without food that means insight is extra information that could be edited at any point in time not the main food.
That's wisdom for you!😀


Extra information that could be edited or discarded is not FOOD rather what they found helpful in teaching others to become members of the faith.

Your PERSONAL opinion!😀
Jesus appointed Judas Iscariot as one of the apostles yet he knew from the beginning what this guy will turn out to be. Judas Iscariot sold Jesus out for money and that's what led to Jesus' execution. Perhaps Jesus wasn't chosen by holy spirit or he wasn't having holy spirit when he selected Judas Iscariot as one of the Apostles!😀

chimex38:
religious members who:
-self evaluate from time to time
-Study and think independently outside the rules of their hierarchy
-or consider and compare views of others on their doctrines,
-aknowledge some errors and gray areas to see some flaws
-critic parts that are overdue to change.
- question rules and try to provide alternatives where possible etc.

Such members will most likely spot a doctrine and adjust even before their governing body or supreme head makes any pronouncement.

chimex38:
Some measures for some set of religious people:
If a doctrine, has been criticized
-especially when probably presented by dissents, atheists, other religious, apostates,
and such people still defend it without evaluation.

Only for the organization to finally acknowledge years later and make doctrinal amends then what says about such persons who were initially very defensive?

I think they are unfortunately kinda like Robots(GIGO) to their religion and fanatics who see every spiritual and Bible discuss as
-Me Vs you thing,
-my religion Vs your religion.


Cuz if what your hierarchy leads "prayed and studied" has been revealed to the people you call faithless, long ago and you were fighting off their criticism. What does that make of one's thought process now even with one's supposedly better wealth of knowledge.?

Then why aknowledge what you've been against cuz its coming from your "divine guided hierarchy".
What happened to, awareness, Bible knowledge and critical thinking, consideration of opinions during the criticism period by others?
Suspended reasoning? Or verses misrepresenting?

Floww23:
Edited and discarded 🤣😂😂🤣
Faithful slave produce CONTAMINATED FOOD and POISONOUS FOOD
That's why there are needless deaths and Hardship as a result of their man made policies.Why rope yourself 🤣🤣
You don't know how much I laughed reading the bolded, Do you by the above agreed that Destiny is real and that Judas was born and Chosen by Jesus for the purpose of Betraying Him ?

MaxInDHouse:
Story! Story!! Story!!!
If you find a better performing group let me know!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Story! Story!! Story!!!
If you find a better performing group let me know!🙂

Floww23:
Russell didn't go finding a better performing Group, he created one. Your logic is so full of dust that Even the JW founder didn't follow it.

Floww23:
My question is this : Do you now believe in Destiny since Judas was appointed to be a betrayal ?

MrEar:
At least he doesn't have to take permission from some white men in Warwick to live his life. When you regain freedom, sense and critical thinking let us know.😂

MaxInDHouse:
Founder?🤣
Ọmọ calm down and reason someone can't be the founder while many of his beliefs has been changed over the years. People do keep the philosophy of real founders.

You are not ready to learn jàre so go and sort it out for yourself.🙂

Floww23:
The point is when he was noticing inconsistent teachings and contaminated foods like what you called the garbage of insight from your faithful slave, he didn't left to search for another religion, He started to Study FoR HIMSELF. He had no intention of starting an organisation as his writings point out. So next time u blurt out that find a group, let your head remind you that Russell didn't went in search of any performing Group

Floww23:
You are seeing the inconsistency now, since Judas was appointed strictly to be a future betrayal according to you, how do you open your mouth and deny the concept of destiny?

Floww23:
If only you can think.
The Fact they are directly called false brothers means they were never appointed. CLOCK THAT!

Did any of the verses you quoted claimed those brothers were appointed?

None.

Among Jehovah's witnesses the doctrine stands Elders are appointed by holy spirit. For Secret police spies to have crept in and get appointed proved Appointments in Jehovah's witnesses has nothing to do with God or the JW are false religion and spies were tools from God to punish false religion. Since the GB are also Elders, it invalidate the claim that God chose
or appoint them since Elder appointment in your organisation has nothing to do with God.