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| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by marlow1962(m): 3:59pm On Mar 27 |
Another day in Nigeria, another problem ![]() |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Frecklesgod: 4:04pm On Mar 27 |
Bro I categorically tell you the decision making is biased already, if a doctors commits an offence they constitute a disciplinary panel or a committee head by a doctor always head by a doctor they sweep it under the carpet... but lol let a nurse or any other health professional commits same they will have ur head Betanaija42moro: |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by ojuu4u(m): 4:05pm On Mar 27 |
ColdHunter:In other words anybody can be VC in the universities, since VC too is adminstrative position. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Cmanforall: 4:09pm On Mar 27 |
ColdHunter:Those protesting will still want their children to be doctors Let them focus the energy on their respective duties on patients |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by ojuu4u(m): 4:12pm On Mar 27 |
Betanaija42moro:To solve the problem, the head of medical Council, should be headed by different health professionals, alternatively, or by election, and since combined others health professionals are many than doctor, they will have upper hand in election |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by franchasng: 4:15pm On Mar 27 |
I think other health professionals should accept this because if they are under Doctor's regulation, they will be more protected and discrimination in remuneration will be reduced ![]() |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by themanderon: 4:18pm On Mar 27 |
If this happens the doctors would just swallow other professionals up. You know we don't know how to handle power and authority in this country. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Chienex24(m): 4:21pm On Mar 27 |
ColdHunter:In every medical team, no matter the number of disciplines present in the team, A medical doctor is the defacto leader, and that is how it has always been from time immemorial. Every medically related profession is a command in their own right but once it becomes a multidisciplinary approach as it is in a hospital setting, a doctor is the defacto leader in terms of hierarchy to avoid lack of command structure that may ultimately lead to loss of life An administrative lead role for other health professions will be complex to navigate because that person will have to answer to a doctor in his primary role plus administrative needs of the hospital because a doctor by default is trained in every area of health including an extensive training in his own department. It is just like giving the best player in a football team the captain band in most cases That been said, it is very wrong to merge every health discipline under the MDCN. It creates autocracy, and incompetence in the long run. I don't know why the Nigerian government are always thinking backwards and it is evident by the type of leaders we have in recent years.Every one is important in saving lives, same way pharmacy shops, lab centers, first aid, physiotherapy centers etc are also independently set up to care for the lives of patients as a whole |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Basic123: 4:29pm On Mar 27 |
Wether other professionals like it or not ,the doctors are the de facto head of the medical and health team. Very soon,anyone will be able to become the VC of Universities too. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by haiti007(m): 5:00pm On Mar 27 |
Host78:You are contradicting yourself. You are obviously a doctor or related to one. You guys just want to avoid being accountable, you also want to monopolize the health section thereby satisfying your self at the expense of others. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Kalatium(m): 5:05pm On Mar 27 |
U09ce:Aswear e go better. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Kalatium(m): 5:06pm On Mar 27 |
haiti007:There are no selfish people like doctors. Always want to show superiority. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Kalatium(m): 5:08pm On Mar 27 |
Basic123:They are not defacto of anything. Go to western countries and you will see administrators leading not doctors. Just because you see it happening in Nigeria doesn't make it so. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Eniolohunda: 5:28pm On Mar 27 |
Merging all other health care workers under NMA is senseless. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by dalongjnr: 5:37pm On Mar 27 |
Host78:You don’t know how the hospitals work. The people who coordinate the activities of the hospitals are the nurses, sef. They served as a like between the patient and other support staff from the laboratories, pharmacy, physiotherapist, and even the doctors, I.e,they ensure that lab results,x-rays,and other investigations 🔎 are being conducted, the ensure that the patient gets the right drugs and at when due,they ensure that patient is ready for other supportive therapies, they are always at the bedside to monitor and ensure that the patient is doing well. Nurses are more considered in leadership positions that's why they head most of the units in NHS UK,IRELAND etc. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Jman06(m): 5:44pm On Mar 27 |
All over the world, different healthcare professionals are regulated by separate councils! In the UK for instance, pharmacy practise is regulated by the general pharmaceutical council (GPhC). In Canada, the Pharmacists registration board of Canada regulates pharmacy practise. The list is endless! Why must the Nigerian medical doctors with their black man's mentality try to indirectly lord over other healthcare professionals? Where is it done? The national assembly must understand that the bill is nothing but a calculated attempt by medical doctors to hijack the headship of other departments in the hospitals and health institutions even without having the knowledge of these professions. The bill must not scale through the national assembly unless they want to plunge the healthcare system into chaos! Let the status quo remain! The different healthcare professionals must continue to be independently regulated by the already existing regulatory bodies! A word is enough for the wise! |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by jaephoenix(m): 5:47pm On Mar 27 |
Dpharmacist:I'm a doctor. Almost 20 years in the grind. This is wrong in all shades. Those are professionals ffs. I know sometimes the other healthcare practitioners try to overreach themselves but this is quite over the top by us doctors. It wont fly |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Reference(m): 5:51pm On Mar 27 |
Not a healthcare professional but truncation of administration can never be a good thing and I just donot understand why Nigerians love it. They just love their feudalism. They want to have a single king of medical science and practice in Nigeria....and all his subjects bowing to him.... medieval thinking. While they busy bickering, AI is creeping up on them and Wil soon steal their knickers leaving them thoroughly exposed. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by LordFaraday(m): 5:52pm On Mar 27 |
Are your options the international standards? Or just your own personal opinion. ColdHunter: |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by JuanDeDios: 5:56pm On Mar 27 |
Dpharmacist: jaephoenix:How? All you have to do is reconstitute the MDCN membership to be representative of all the professions involved. This is a needless war. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by lazborn(m): 6:07pm On Mar 27 |
So a Dr will leave his primary work to come to the lab for instance and start telling laboratory personnels what to do? A Dr will now decide who laboratory council should license and start regulating private laboratories when we have alot of unregulated practices that the mdcan has not yet finished with they are encroaching into other profession, it is nothing but power driving attitude and ego that's all. In the hospital they make almost all the decisions but taking it to private sectors is far too much, I can not own a lab until a Dr comes and certified, everyone cannot b a Dr and we all need everyone to work together for a proper healthcare delivery, in the hospital all the positions are occupied by Dr no one blinks about but don't take it to my personal business Host78: |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Host78: 6:07pm On Mar 27 |
You dey whine me abi? dalongjnr: |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by dapadawee(m): 6:11pm On Mar 27 |
Dpharmacist:They all work in one hospital, they all work for one goal. So why many umbrellas. I beg all fall under medical. If they can fund the organization themselves let them continue but if they are expecting anything from government aside salary they're gented |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by dapadawee(m): 6:13pm On Mar 27 |
ColdHunter:Every of them wanted to be doctor initially but couldn't make it. It is appropriate to salute and respect those that made it. Nothing a scientist or pharmacist or nurse can explain that a doctor cannot explain but there is a lot a doctor knows that non of them has ever heard before |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Janosky: 6:16pm On Mar 27 |
The sky is large enough for every bird to thrive & fly. Our people too like gbege wey e no dey help anybody. Which doctor can function without professional input of his fellow health sector colleagues in the system? |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by dapadawee(m): 6:17pm On Mar 27 |
Dpharmacist:It is better let the government know who to relate with, not that today doctor will strike tomorrow nurse next tomorrow johesu abi na Jehovah witness. The same thing should be done in our university. Today na nasu tomorrow asu all of them should merge and stop extortion |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by WiseBizInvestor(f): 6:23pm On Mar 27 |
Does that mean everyone has their breakfast served as the situation warrant? 🤔 damoobaba: |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Segzy19: 6:33pm On Mar 27 |
It's only in Nigeria that nonsense like this can happen. Nigerian doctors are just too arrogant and power-drunk. Is this the same practice when they travel abroad? What is wrong with the previous arrangements? Why create problems where there is none? I know that the other healthcare professionals will never allow this nonsense to stand |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by ColdHunter(f): 6:36pm On Mar 27 |
ojuu4u:Absolutely. VCship ismt reserved for any profession within the university system |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by ColdHunter(f): 6:40pm On Mar 27 |
dapadawee:Not true. There are pharmacists that always wanted to be pharmacists and so on. I can understand for say, Anatomists and co. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Basic123: 6:52pm On Mar 27 |
Kalatium:So,in western wordl anybody can lead a patient managing team. You dey cap bro! Hospital administration is difft from patient management. By the way,dont we havw director of Admin in various Nigerian hospitals. Its like saying an administrator shoould be appointed a head of the university and not a VC. A Chief Medical Director (CMD) is a senior physician who leads and oversees all medical and clinical operations within a healthcare organization. Key responsibilities: Clinical leadership: Ensures high standards of patient care and safety Policy development: Sets medical protocols, guidelines, and best practices Supervision: Oversees doctors and clinical staff Quality control: Monitors outcomes, audits performance, and improves care delivery Administration: Works with management on budgeting, staffing, and strategic planning Regulatory compliance: Ensures the organization follows medical laws and ethical standards Where they work: Hospitals Health systems Government health agencies Insurance or healthcare organizations In simple terms: A Chief Medical Director is the top doctor in charge of clinical decisions and medical quality in an organization. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by mankan2k7(m): 7:34pm On Mar 27 |
This bill is satanic and should be thrown to the bin where it belongs. Healthcare system is a multi-discipline professions which comprises of Medical laboratory scientist, Nurses, Pharmacists, Doctors etc. An attempt to Lord a doctor over other professionals should be resisted. All of them passed through the university under a rigorous trainings and should be allowed to independently flourish in their own unit and councils without interference by the doctors. Government should start planning of appointing health administrator as the head of all hospitals both federal and state. |
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