₦airaland Forum

chukwutee:
Baba stop exposing your ignorance, asked any learned person around you, which geological zone, he’s from, if you think he’s from any of the southwest region, then you need to complete your secondary education.

Lmao... To the cleaner direct

Okay. Show me your friend, I will tell you whom you are. Shikena !

anonimi:
The courts that have been heavily influenced by Wike and others in Oshiomhole’s Assembly of Past Criminals, APC



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqFMCgRREXg

Weak people and complains. INEC is influenced, the voters are influenced, the courts are influences, the king of England is influenced, truml that said Tinubu's wife is a woman of God is influenced. If you and Obi are expecting the Presidency to be handed to you in your bedroom, you better wake up from your Hallucination.

Quite unfortunate that the once largest political party in Africa had gone to this low level status 🤔

Midenola:
Too bad for PDP........ How the mighty fallen

A whole PDP is being toy around because of Wike.. A party member that should have been suspended...

2027 is around the corner....

7upnigeria:
If they had the power, they would have gotten rid of Wike but you see how the courts are helping Wike to deal with them at PDP.

Oga, stop swallowing whatever you chew on ARISE and from RUFAI hook, line and sinker.
It is always the court to blame first not mindful of the fact that the court will only decide on the facts presented before it.
So, it was the court that said they should go ahead with the AMALA CONVENTION of Seyi Makinde when:

# 14 State Congresses were yet to be made.

#The Convention does allign with the electoral act.

# The Convention contravenes the party' s own constitution.

# Sule Lamido was denied the opportunity to buy and contest as the National Chairman.

# When the Same Saraki adviced that they should go for an Interim EXCO first to put their house in order.

A time is still coming when you and your ilk will blame Nigerian courts for the hot weather we are experiencing now. Or perhaps blame Wike for influencing CAF for awarding AFCON to thiefy thiefy Morocco.

belikewater:
So Saraki a Yoruba man is now from the North right? Na wa o.

You wrote this and one ignoramus person like you liked it and shared to other buffoon like you guys.
When they said the North had 19 state, Kwara a North central state is one of the State.

belikewater:
So Saraki a Yoruba man is now from the North right? Na wa o.

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Saraki is from north central.
Kwara state is north central

All three have grandiose mansions abroad allegedly owned by close immediate family members. 😉

See dem dey find endorsement even upon all the money induced decampment of governors.

Lithiumite:
Politics isn't mama nkechi fighting mama ada kind of compound quarrel where you fight over irrelevancies and hold malice till perpetuity,politics is serious business and pragmatic reasoning and thats what saraki is espousing here.......hate wike all you want but wike as a maverick that he is has won this pdp battle, he now holds all the aces,if the makinde camp don't surrender,they can as well leave the party,its what it is ,those who still want the pdp to survive are left with no choice but to famz wike whether they like him or hate him and manage the crisis till after the elections......you think pdp is all about whether they support tinubu or not,what about all the other positions that people have invested energy and time aspiring for that they now all stand the risk of loosing that just because some leaders are feeling too big to face reality......pdp got itself into the mess it is in right now and mistakes have been made but it is getting too late to continue to fight......even husband and wife despite fighting still sleep on same bed and just wait it out till morning to see their next move,you don't just pack your bags and go.

The problem with people like you is that always try to substantiate " aberration" * mediocre" ... Our politicians dont have ideology thats why they mix anyhow

The nusense we do here, nd wike we open mouth ..." it is politics" you can't find it in any democratic country, imagine you signed for arsenal and you wil be the keeper for chelsea against arsenal .. I tell people like Babajide dont explain Nigeria amala politics to us, as citizens what we should hold on to his the constitution and what is mentally right

You think wike have won, his relevance already has expiring date, is political relevance can not out live Tinubu tenure. Write it down, shebi Saraki had is reign he was feeling " supreme" where did it end. Wike can enjoy the victory But one sure thing is that he cant do anything with pdp left to him

I will never sit down n try to understand Amala politics, baba sope politics ... Cos i know its a breach on power to the people. I did read politics in school as elective course .... There is no where i saw Amala politics or anti party as politics learning that course

snatch it, Grab it nd run with it ... thats what pickpockets, garage thieves do, not politics

reddingtonblack:
The problem with people like you is that always try to substantiate " aberration" * mediocre" ... Our politicians dont have ideology thats why they mix anyhow

The nusense we do here, nd wike we open mouth ..." it is politics" you can't find it in any democratic country, imagine you signed for arsenal and you wil be the keeper for chelsea against arsenal .. I tell people like Babajide dont explain Nigeria amala politics to us, as citizens what we should hold on to his the constitution and what is mentally right

You think wike have won, his relevance already has expiring date, is political relevance can not out live Tinubu tenure. Write it down, shebi Saraki had is reign he was feeling " supreme" where did it end. Wike can enjoy the victory But one sure thing is that he cant do anything with pdp left to him

I will never sit down n try to understand Amala politics, baba sope politics ... Cos i know its a breach on power to the people. I did read politics in school as elective course .... There is no where i saw Amala politics or anti party as politics learning that course

snatch it, Grab it nd run with it ... thats what pickpockets, garage thieves do, not politics

Your mind is already assuaged by your anti tinubu politics no matter how much reality stares you in the face ....you can choose to delude yourself,it's still within your right to be unreasonable. Nobody has said wike will reign for ever but there are times you have to sit with your enemy for the better good of a course in this case every anti tinubu element in pdp have to seat with wike as things are right now... Hate him all you want,he holds the aces.....for the sake of all those pdp members that are aspiring to contest you need to give them the chance and that's what saraki is saying,this isn't about wike is wrong makinde is right it's about how to save pdp and let pdp have people fill other positions like nass,guber or state assembly and if makinde and co don't sheath their swords pdp will loose oyo and even bauchi because you can't contest..... Isn't it better to see reason than being down the whole house because you have a problem with wike.

ufotunang:
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Saraki is from north central.
Kwara state is north central

And you think core Northerners consider someone named 'Bukola' as one of them?

Jd10k:
You wrote this and one ignoramus person like you liked it and shared to other buffoon like you guys.
When they said the North had 19 state, Kwara a North central state is one of the State.

Oya now, he is from the 'North' come and field him in the next election and I am sure all the Northerners would vote for him. Because they classed Kwara as part of the North you think core Northerners now consider the state as one of them? To you an outsider, Bukola is from the North but for those who know how politics works when it comes to the core North no he ain't!

psalmsjob:
For you to say saraki from kwara state which is on the north central is not a northerner means you don't no anything about Nigeria beyond okpa and abacha na wa for una just cho cho cho like say una know something

I am not arguing if kwara state is part of the north or not, the fact still remains there is a difference between being zoned in the North and being from the North. Bukola from the North would come out to be nominated for Presidency and Abdullahi from the North would gladly vote for him right?

chukwutee:
Baba stop exposing your ignorance, asked any learned person around you, which geological zone, he’s from, if you think he’s from any of the southwest region, then you need to complete your secondary education.

Go back and read what I replied to, I was referring to the fact that when it comes to selection for Presidency other Northerners don't consider Kwara as one of them. Bukola is from the North and also not from the North.

Lithiumite:

Your mind is already assuaged by your anti tinubu politics no matter how much reality stares you in the face

I find it alarming that someone with closed eye is talking about " Reality" .. Which reality, what the govt saying self credit or what the people are saying.

I challenge, enter public bus nd praise Tinubu ... Come back n lets talk reality again

....you can choose to delude yourself,it's still within your right to be unreasonable.

I just laugh wen i see statement like you hate Tinubu nii ... You no mobilize for APC pass me in 2023, in my car i stil have caps, vest, wasiu ayinde CDs i shared

Nobody has said wike will reign for ever but there are times you have to sit with your enemy for the better good of a course in this case every anti tinubu element in pdp have to seat with wike as things are right now...

uncle Wike is one man we cant becos of one man redefine "standard politics" ... In nigeria what we call politics is complete mediocre, Nothing fit carry a republican go sit with democrats dey strategize .. Ko le happen nii
What wike is doing anti party ..give me one example in another country, i refuse to understand abberation

Hate him all you want,he holds the aces.....for the sake of all those pdp members that are aspiring to contest you need to give them the chance and that's what saraki is saying

If Wike like let him hold more than ACE make he own Queen join, ABacha, baba Adedibu, Snr Saraki, obasanjo where are they today ...So Wike can be equate as God mii o fur ... Time is counting

,this isn't about wike is wrong makinde is right it's about how to save pdp

see comedy, after e remain one Governor, so it is better to have a PDP singing Bola on your mandate than a dead PDP abi 🤣 we don suffer

The bigggiest political party in Nigeria reduce to endorsement group, nd someone educated says Saving PDP 🤣

and let pdp have people fill other positions like nass,guber or state assembly and if makinde and co don't sheath their swords pdp will loose oyo

you cant patronize me, which nass the one all incumbent have defected to APC ... Less than 1yr to Go PDp will return back to formidable opposition, the ones that defected to APC wil fold there arms right ...smh

and even bauchi because you can't contest..... Isn't it better to see reason than being down the whole house because you have a problem with wike.

Quit self deciet, over 31 states governors have defected to APC it is now Wike now realized they can reconcile n give a APC a fight 🤣🤣 so if pdp led by wike give APC a fight what will happen to his minister job under APC .. You guyz just talk as if Nigerians are all dummies

WIKE that swore Itz Tinubu or nobody is the one leading pdp reconciliation 🤣🤣🤣 joke of the year

reddingtonblack:
Quit self deciet, over 31 states governors have defected to APC it is now Wike now realized they can reconcile n give a APC a fight 🤣🤣 so if pdp led by wike give APC a fight what will happen to his minister job under APC .. You guyz just talk as if Nigerians are all dummies

WIKE that swore Itz Tinubu or nobody is the one leading pdp reconciliation 🤣🤣🤣 joke of the year

It's easier fir you ro run braggadocio.... your stakes in pdp is irrelevant.......pdp is still the biggest party in nigeria today after apc,LP doesn’t even come close....... people will contest under pdp for offices in 27 whether you like or not and they will win..... adc cannot offer the same pedigree or structure has pdp can.

Hou can aswell tell makinde to go bring his successor to run from another party same as bala Muhammed and hear what they will tell u.......whats wrong if pdp decides to support tinubu......the republicans supported Franklin Roosevelt to continuecto govern till his death long after his constitutionaly permitted 2 terms.....there isn't anything cast in stone,didn't AD govs adopt obj as their presidential candidate in 03 even when this same Tinubuwas gov,did he bring the house down or decamp as you are erbing makinde to do now........only a fool will accept to run for president under pdp as it is today because the inevitable outcome would be a scandalous loss but pdp will certainly win seats in NASsS and state assemblies and atleast 1 or 2 states.. . You can continue to play your kamikaze politics but those vested in the party knows saraki isn't out of order and lamido himself corroborated same.

belikewater:
And you think core Northerners consider someone named 'Bukola' as one of them?

..you can ask him...I do not know how he beared that name Bukola..oooo🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃

belikewater:
So Saraki a Yoruba man is now from the North right? Na wa o.

Saraki himself said his father is Fulani and that only his mother is Yoruba.

So abeg no call am Yoruba man again

Lithiumite:

It's easier fir you ro run braggadocio.... your stakes in pdp is irrelevant.......pdp is still the biggest party in nigeria today after apc,

You can live in denial all you want but the reality is before us All .. from the look of things it not even feasible pdp might present a formidable candidate for 2027 ..whats left

LP doesn’t even come close....... people will contest under pdp for offices in 27 whether you like or not and they will win..... adc cannot offer the same pedigree or structure has pdp can.

ati LP ati PDP kini yato ... Do they have any formidable candidate in any those party that can contend for presidency... Its unnecessary to start comparism sef

Hou can aswell tell makinde to go bring his successor to run from another party same as bala Muhammed and hear what they will tell u.......whats wrong if pdp decides to support tinubu

whu still neva show your color well well but we are getting there Seyi can do whatever he likes, defect to any party or register a new party But what is an aberration is to be in PDP nd be attending APC campaign, which one is one leg devil one leg jesus pick one thats All sanity demand.

It is strong becos for All the year Pdp was ruling Party Tinubu never for onces supported pdp, so why will Apc be ruling party nd pdp must be its appendage ... You are not reasoning at all because of selfish gain nd interest thats your problem


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the republicans supported Franklin Roosevelt to continuecto govern till his death long after his constitutionaly permitted 2 terms..

Oshey ! Not majority though buh those republican that did support Roosevelt did because he did reflected " people interest i.e saved capitalist system from radicalism

Is that why Akpabio, wike, pdp governors are shouting on your mandate bola ... Is it not becos of there pocket or self political career what else ...smh

Roosevelt FDR was against the wealthy ones and political conservative at a time of global crisis, thats direct opposite of Tinubu naw 🤣..

If Roosevelt was our president now, no wike or politician will sing on your mandate ...proof me wrong



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..there isn't anything cast in stone,didn't AD govs adopt obj as their presidential candidate in 03 even when this same Tinubuwas gov,did he bring the house down or decamp as you are erbing makinde to do now..

how old are you, my God ! So you dont know in 2003 Tinubu register AC left AD ...and you wan follow me argue ..smh
As at 2023 Nigeria democracy was just bearly 4yrs old, we had just one opposition going to 2003 so it tenable at early stage of our democracy AD that had nothing decided to be PDP appendage ... 26yrs after thats what you want us to go back to shame on you

If APC had delivered on there promsed nd pdp decided to support APC we would have still understand that But with the shege promax out there why would Tinubu go unoppose, why ?? Ki lo achieve

Even fashola with All is wonder works, didnt go unoppose 2nd term.

......only a fool will accept to run for president under pdp as it is today because the inevitable outcome would be a scandalous loss but pdp will certainly

Look here bro, in life you cant always win But in life you can always keep your Dignity ...if pdp cant contest these period fine, restratwgize, overhaul nd come back stronger in future election people wil remember you stood for something

pdp supporting APC, they can never regain " entity" again, no party does appendage nd come back to be ruiing force in history of our politics, lets scholars tell me i am wrong

win seats in NASsS and state assemblies and atleast 1 or 2 states.. . You can continue to play your kamikaze politics but those vested in the party knows saraki isn't out of order and lamido himself corroborated same.

Ogbeni lets hear word jare ! What about the incumbent in APC those that defected, they have funds, they have structure they have centre agreement ...what does pdp have, by the time pdp announce there support for Tinubu they wil lose people trust completely, why vote pdp when i can just vote APC that controls pdp ...think man

reddingtonblack:
Ogbeni lets hear word jare ! What about the incumbent in APC those that defected, they have funds, they have structure they have centre agreement ...what does pdp have, by the time pdp announce there support for Tinubu they wil lose people trust completely, why vote pdp when i can just vote APC that controls pdp ...think man

You are a Puerile anti tinubu reactionary.... .wike has told you where he is going and he is well within his right to decide that.....if you don't like it adc is there for you.......people will pick tickets under pdp,run for election and win tahtz a fact,you can decide to partake or not.
Mr longinus methuselah,AC wasn't formed in 03 go get your facts right rather it was AD that adopted obj as their presidential candidate with the exception of tinubu but what did tinubu do,he was matured enough not to tear the roof down at the time but accepted the parties position but refused to let his guard down that was how he was able to survive the pdp onslaught in SW in 03.

Everyone knows pdp cannot field any presidential candidate fir 27 as it is already too late but makinde and his co travellers should heed the call for caution,stay in there and keep your state for the pdp you can still turn things around......pdp is too big and too important to die.

You claimed there isn't anywhere in history where opposition had supported an incumbents to remain in power and I proofed you wrong,the circumstances are secondary......you can decide not to vote tinubu in 27,thats your problem.

Lithiumite:

You are a Puerile anti tinubu reactionary.... .wike has told you where he is going and he is well within his right to decide that....

Pronoun me whatever, buh i think realist is my favourite, ofcus wike have right to support & follow Devil sef, buh if we had rule of law no system condones anti party public declaration. He cross the line nd its a shame on our system

.if you don't like it adc is there for you.......people will pick tickets under pdp,run for election and win tahtz a fact,you can decide to partake or not.

You dont patronize me, check the thread topic again, we are analysing essences of pdp reconcilation, the reconciliation have not even succeed, lets even assume they successfully reconcile, wike cant renege on support to Tinubu ... with is dominance how new pdp candidates wan take win rivers or other places against APC, how will wike hold mic n campaign for pdp against APc

If he wont campaign for pdp does he have a choice not to campaign for Tinubu .... How is Wike position good for a reconciled pdp ..thats the arguement

Mr longinus methuselah,AC wasn't formed in 03 go get your facts right rather it was AD that adopted obj as their presidential candidate with the exception of tinubu but what did tinubu do ,he was matured enough not to tear the roof down at the time but accepted the parties position but refused to let his guard down that was how he was able to survive the pdp onslaught in SW in 03.

Ok i take it back, AC was founded 2006, like i said early in the early days it okay for a AD the underdog to endorse the ruling party
MY point ; you can compare AD of 2003 to PDP that have dominated for years to become endorsement group .. should pdp bow that low they cant come back again cos people wont forget ...where is that AD today, endorsing obasanjo was there last move ... I expect you to think

It is better pdp dont contest in 2027, leave the party for Wike he cant do anything with it .. than to be a dog to wike

Everyone knows pdp cannot field any presidential candidate fir 27 as it is already too late but makinde and his co travellers should heed the call for caution,stay in there and keep your state for the pdp you can still turn things around..

you dont see beyond your nose, so you know it late so what the point keeping a appendage pdp, in 2019 npdp fraction formed alliance with APC it worked n later saraki had pdp back
Instead of reconciling to becum Wike puppet, i think its even better seyi fraction form alliance with accord, sdp or whoever to move in for 2027 election, and leave the pesidency slot for now

You claimed there isn't anywhere in history where opposition had supported an incumbents to remain in power and I proofed you wrong,the circumstances are secondary......you can decide not to vote tinubu in 27,thats your problem.

lolzz! you could have proved me wrong, if you are not hoping pdp will bounce back after such abberation .. you shot yourself in the foot cos the AD you mention didnt bounce back after, infact that was there end

If not that you have sinister motive, why will you want pdp to die thd same way as AD you dont know what you are saying jare

reddingtonblack:
lolzz! you could have proved me wrong, if you are not hoping pdp will bounce back after such abberation .. you shot yourself in the foot cos the AD you mention didnt bounce back after, infact that was there end

If not that you have sinister motive, why will you want pdp to die thd same way as AD you dont know what you are saying jare

You keep tieing yourself up without any idea how to untangle yourself......how can you compare a well grounded party loke pdp with very active structures across all the 36 states and fct,across 774 lgs and wards in this country......you compare that to AD that was barely getting through second round of elections AD that was limited to only SW........if we need to break your head to sink it in,PDP is still very well grounded.....wike can campaign for Tinubu thats his problem but seyi and whoever doesn't need to in their domains....if I were to be seyi all I will be interested in is winning my state guber and Assembly elections for my party.....that way I will be in a better position to edge out wike who must have gifted his entire state to apc.....its simple,its logic,thats what saraki and lamido are saying....makinde as a smart politian can tell wike,you can have your tinubu but i must have my state exco and Sw,its that simple.

Lithiumite:

You keep tieing yourself up without any idea how to untangle yourself......how can you compare a well grounded party loke pdp with very active structures across all the 36 states and fct,across 774 lgs and wards in this country......you compare that to AD that was barely getting through second round of elections AD that was limited to only SW

So you know AD is not anywhere comparable to PDP yet you brought the comparism up ... Or who brought AD into the conversation
So you acknowledge AD n PDP no be mate yet you want PDP to emulate a party beneath it to serve as appendage to APC in 2027 🤣 ... Didnt i say think
I asked again who brought AD up, whu started AD did it Pdp must do it like AD

........if we need to break your head to sink it in,PDP is still very well grounded.....wike can campaign for Tinubu thats his problem but seyi and whoever doesn't need to in their domains

i can still your brain cells have drown ... When we people put wike n sabotage in same sentence what do you think they meant, TINUBU instruction is sweep dem clean, so Tinubu expect wike to sabotage pdp beyond presidency level,
You think the essence of having almost all governor is just to help Tinubu become president nd they can lose there own incumbency its a crash my back i crash your ... WIKE relevance is dependent on " sabotage"

....if I were to be seyi all I will be interested in is winning my state guber and Assembly elections for my party.....that way I will be in a better position to edge out wike who must have gifted his entire state to apc

Seyi is on his last tenure, you dont want to go to the poll using a party you aint even sure of its future with a fresher, Do you know how much sen. dickson luv pdp but he had to face the reality he left, using pdp as a platform is very risk esp. when wike still have it under his ampit

.....its simple,its logic,thats what saraki and lamido are saying....makinde as a smart politian can tell wike,you can have your tinubu but i must have my state exco and Sw,its that simple.

dont even remind me of saraki, did he not play anti party himself, did he not betray his own father, abeggi we know saraki is trying to get a come back, saraki knows only Tinubu can revive is dead career cos Tinubu ended it,

When saraki fraction had issues with pdp in 2015, did they try to reconcile, did they not form NPDP, now he wants to lecture us about reconciliation, ...

Its mindbugging Saraki wants seyi fraction fighting for pdp independence to be the one to bow n accept Wike terms nd condition. So make i call malu (cow) borda (uncle) becos i wan chop meat ...if you dont have dignity atleast feign some self worth naw

ufotunang:
..you can ask him...I do not know how he beared that name Bukola..oooo🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃