₦airaland Forum

Difrent:
Theres are not the real rates of dollars as at then, it was heavily subsidized.
You can argue that subsidizing is part of governments function but they are artificial rates

That's not true
Only Buhari subsidised naira

nairalanda1:
Your comment is why Balablu is in charge, and why we never get better leaders.

Until you understand why your economy and country is bad, you are going to keep on getting tinubu in charge. And you will never be happy about it.

When you understand why, that's when tinubu will be removed from power by magic, and we would get decent leaders.

Why are u desperately jumping from one mention to another ??

buhariguy:
M boko Haram actually get worse during gej regime

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How please? Tell me

Alliswell248:
Keep entertaining your fellow low thinkers with the trash you wrote.
How did Gej tried? The same man met our fx reserve at over 42 billion usd....despite increase in oil price for at least two years, he left it below 29 billion usd.

No legacy project. Chop chop government

Wetin be Tinubu government be??

buhariguy:
M boko Haram actually get worse during gej regime

There has always been a boko haram in nigeria, and they have never been always muslim fundamentalist either.

It is what happens when you run an economy based on sharing money instead of productivity. Your country has always had a large mass of unemployed and underemployed skillless people, who, if we had been serious, would have long since been employed.

But no jobs because we import what we can produce. Idle hand is the luciferian workshop.

AsomughaChuks02:
President Jonathan tried with cash flows but he was a naive politician with little experience in the game.

And now you have seen an experienced master strategist

How is it going?

you lots are unbelievable really....you are cutting your nose to spite your face

advanceDNA:
Why are u desperately jumping from one mention to another ??

Well, my dear madam, I am merely responding to those who quote me, and those whose comments I find interesting.

I'm sure you would agree with me, madam, that no one can control what one says on this site, so long as you keep to the rules.

obonujoker:
With what we are seeing in the country today, mhen, I really commend and appraise Dr. GoodLuck Jonathan. He was a great leader and Man. Honest no be by Gra Gra.

I remember my 1st Salary as a Field maintenance engineer for Telecom based stations in 2012 - 85,000 per amount. Mhen, Life was good.

Looking at the Stats of Nigerian presidents and their regime, you will do nothing but praise Jonathan. All the evil some people did to Jonathan, it has bounced back on their heads, no wonder nothing they do progresses, instead they inflict more pain and pain. See some stats below 👇

1.💵 NIGERIA’S MINIMUM WAGE OVER THE YEARS (IN NAIRA & USD)

🗓 Olusegun Obasanjo Administration (2000)
🇳🇬 ₦5,500 ≈ $64.04
💱 Exchange rate: 1 USD = ₦85.90

🗓 Olusegun Obasanjo Administration (2004, 2nd term)
🇳🇬 ₦7,500 ≈ $57.69
💱 Exchange rate: 1 USD = ₦130

🗓 Goodluck Jonathan Administration (2011)
🇳🇬 ₦18,000 ≈ $119.15
💱 Exchange rate: 1 USD = ₦151.05

🗓 Muhammadu Buhari Administration (2019)
🇳🇬 ₦30,000 ≈ $82.64
💱 Exchange rate: 1 USD = ₦363

🗓 Current Administration
🇳🇬 ₦70,000 ≈ $50.39
💱 Exchange rate: 1 USD = ₦1,389

*See picture below*... Wish we could go back to Jonathan Era

You are a typical GEJ supporter and south-southerner.
All you wrote is rubbish because GEJ inherited it somewhere and spoiled it too. That should hint you it was a structural issue. It simply depends on how well the govt of the day can afford to defend the Naira on one hand and pay workers on the other side.

Kukutente23:
That's not true
Only Buhari subsidised naira

so you mean Buhari introduced Naira subsidy? Thats a demonic lie mr man.

nairalanda1:
Well, my dear madam, I am merely responding to those who quote me, and those whose comments I find interesting.

I'm sure you would agree with me, madam, that no one can control what one says on this site, so long as you keep to the rules.

Dont get me wrong….Im not trying to control you… its just that are making it look like u are desperate to sell a narrative here…: and it’s always this ur subsidy noise

franchasng:
Good leaders are not good politicians.

Good politicians are usually bad leaders!


Tinubu is a good Nigerian politician who knows how to play the soulless, brutal, conscienceless Nigerian politics but he is a terrible leader and that is why he is failing in turning things around for good in Nigeria, he needs to go




Goodluck Jonathan was a bad politician but a very humane and empathetic leader

Jonathan spent 2014 (the year chibok girls were kidnapped) fighting insurgency, instead of focusing on 2015 presidential election, and that decision cost him the election.

Tinubu today is determined to do the very opposite, whether it is insecurity or power collapse, all will have to wait till after 2027 election.

The problem of Nigeria is not the APC. It is Tinubu himself.

AsomughaChuks02:
President Jonathan tried with cash flows but he was a naive politician with little experience in the game.

It not about games or politics that benefits no one

What we need is good governance not greedy men that calls thereselfs politicians

AsomughaChuks02:
President Jonathan tried with cash flows but he was a naive politician with little experience in the game.

Them wey get experience. How far with their economy. Akpolo eyes no be open eye. Somebody with experience did better.

advanceDNA:
Dont get me wrong….Im not trying to control you… its just that are making it look like u are desperate to sell a narrative here…: and it’s always this ur subsidy noise

If there is a narrative I am trying to sell, it's that Nigeria is too reliant on oil and we have to use our resources to make exportable goods and services.

That is why I no send any of our leaders, and why it annoys me when you young people label me a tinubu supporter.

Is tinubu a guy who is industrializing nigeria and making it like a developed naiton?

That is my narrative, which is why it annoys me when people come here and shout god bless tinubu, gej, obasanjo, army, etc. Like they haven't figured out that the same issues we are complaining about today were complained out years before gej thought of ruling nigeria.

Alliswell248:
It's obvious you lack zero understanding of how a country economy works....
How many Nigerians benefitted from the fx subsidy during buhari and Gej tenures?
The systemic corruption during their tenures are unprecedented. Nigeria was doing father Christmas with our petrol to other countries, yet some people are milking the economy dry.
Buhari in order to please people allowed the subsidy to continue but we were losing at the international stage. We were borrowing to pay salary. Airlines could not remit their money

It's obvious that most of you guys knew nothing when Jonathan was in govt. You all just joined the mob to condemn him not that you had any idea what was going on
Jonathan throughout his tenure never had any so called fx subsidy. Naira was on a float throughout his tenure

MOG4LIFE:
Did he maintain it or not?

if he maintained it naira wouldnt have weakened towards the end of his looting regime. He let it slide down. In fact of all presidents listed. He was the worst performer. Just check where he met it and where he left it.

CodeTemplar:
so you mean Buhari introduced Naira subsidy? Thats a demonic lie mr man.

Well done that's how they choose to frame it you have to go along with their bizarre logic feed them by Onanuga

His only crime to me was handing power to these set of criminals

chatinent:
The problem of Nigeria is not the APC. It is Tinubu himself.

so our problems started 3 years ago accordinh to your argument? Wooow.

nairalanda1:
OKay, there was a time when

1. One to two naira was about one pound or one dollar

2.Petrol cost less than 70 kobo per liter.

If I told you that it was under Buhari's army regime that was happening, you go shout I am excusing Buhari.


All the goodies that GEJ had under his rule....the same thing happened in 1973-82. High oil prices...then bread cost 50 kobo. Fuel was less than 20 kobo self. IN 1981, one cow cost N91.

We were using high oil prices to pretend. And even then, as early as 2011, the warning signs were there.


Assuming it was Buhari in charge in 2011, the same story some of his supporters go tell us. If na tinubu, the same story his agbado supporters go tell us.

The issue with most African countries is that they are resource dependent. From 2007-11, copper prices were high in Zambia. So high that poor people were building house. Then the price crashed and whala start.

The problems APC Has are due to oil crashing. Just like the problems we had from 1983-2007. Oil prices crashed and borrowing increased.

It does not mean APC Is better. Had APC diversifed the economy from day one in power, and had they spent time and effort trying to develop an enabling environment for industrial growth, by now they could have been doing better than GEJ. But APC choose to borrow to maintain the lie that we were a nation of riches. Even now, they still borrow.

If oil prices stay high, tinubu supporters go come tell us their man is doing well. Na fake rise.

Serious economies are economies wey dey use their resources to make useful stuff for the global market. That is why Korea, Japan, China and so forth are better than our country. And all these countries used to send millions of their citizens abroad like we are doing now, until they learned this lesson.

So, GEJ was as bad as tinubu is now. As are all our leaders. Until we get a leader that does what sane countries do.

So, no dey shout god bless anyone. Infact some of what GEJ did laid the foundation for the mess we have now today. If he had told tinubu and buhari to sit down and keep quiet in 2012 and removed subsidy, by now , no be only dangote refinery we go dey look at.

Now I know why you didn't want to blame tunubu and buhart in preventing gej in removing subsist then.
For your record, if crued l price increase to 200$ per barrel till next 3 years, Nigeria will never benefit anything from the wind fall because we have mortgages our oils. We sign future contract for oil to loan and in all future contracts the price fixed will be applicable in the duration of the loan. Have you wonder why dangote is calling out tinubu and NNPCL for not supplying crude to him? It's because buhari and nnpc mortgage our oil for loans and they claim they use the money to repair refinery that never works.

Lithiumite:
You people with all your dysfunctional comparative analysis.....the minimum wage to pms price wasn't the real value pre tinubu, previous govts were paying subsidies so if you were to factor what givt was paying thats when you get the real value.... you must also remember that they all were complaining subsidy wasn't sustainable and they all attempted to end it.

At this juncture, I'm speechless even as a Jonathan supporter

just2endowed:
Now I know why you didn't want to blame tunubu and buhart in preventing gej in removing subsist then.
For your record, if crued l price increase to 200$ per barrel till next 3 years, Nigeria will never benefit anything from the wind fall because we have mortgages our oils. We sign future contract for oil to loan and in all future contracts the price fixed will be applicable in the duration of the loan. Have you wonder why dangote is calling out tinubu and NNPCL for not supplying crude to him? It's because buhari and nnpc mortgage our oil for loans and they claim they use the money to repair refinery that never works.

It's like you think I support tinubu and buhari, therefore you don;t understand what i am saying

The person that is rulling us is evil .... Here is Proverbs 29:2 (King James Version):
“When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.”

obonujoker:
With what we are seeing in the country today, mhen, I really commend and appraise Dr. GoodLuck Jonathan. He was a great leader and Man. Honest no be by Gra Gra.

I remember my 1st Salary as a Field maintenance engineer for Telecom based stations in 2012 - 85,000 per amount. Mhen, Life was good.

Looking at the Stats of Nigerian presidents and their regime, you will do nothing but praise Jonathan. All the evil some people did to Jonathan, it has bounced back on their heads, no wonder nothing they do progresses, instead they inflict more pain and pain. See some stats below 👇

1.💵 NIGERIA’S MINIMUM WAGE OVER THE YEARS (IN NAIRA & USD)

🗓 Olusegun Obasanjo Administration (2000)
🇳🇬 ₦5,500 ≈ $64.04
💱 Exchange rate: 1 USD = ₦85.90

🗓 Olusegun Obasanjo Administration (2004, 2nd term)
🇳🇬 ₦7,500 ≈ $57.69
💱 Exchange rate: 1 USD = ₦130

🗓 Goodluck Jonathan Administration (2011)
🇳🇬 ₦18,000 ≈ $119.15
💱 Exchange rate: 1 USD = ₦151.05

🗓 Muhammadu Buhari Administration (2019)
🇳🇬 ₦30,000 ≈ $82.64
💱 Exchange rate: 1 USD = ₦363

🗓 Current Administration
🇳🇬 ₦70,000 ≈ $50.39
💱 Exchange rate: 1 USD = ₦1,389

*See picture below*... Wish we could go back to Jonathan Era

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GEJ was a better President than Tinubu and Buhari.
But that doesn't make him a good leader unless Nigerians choose partial amnesia.

Someone who scored 40% in an exam is better than two persons that scored 15% and 28%. But they all failed.

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You're saying as though 200 million Nigerians were mannequins

AsomughaChuks02:
President Jonathan tried with cash flows but he was a naive politician with little experience in the game.

nairalanda1:
Buhari inherited an economy that was already failing in quote for several months.

In 2014, March, oil prices started falling. People who had seen the same story before in 1982, began nodding their heads like agama agama. By January 2015, NOI was prophesying that the economy would be bad, regardless of who won.

So, yes GEJ handed over a bad economy to buhari. Na high oil price he dey use to hide the cracks.

The problem with Buhari and tinubu is that instead of using hard times to shine, dem come dey do borrow borrow to maintain what we had when oil prices were high, because the sane decisions they needed to take to pull us out of danger, they no take because they preferred to be in power rather than do the hard decisions to leave Nigeria a good leagacy

All of our leaders are the same.

don’t defend failure yes they’re all d same but little different compare d suffering to now u will understand what d op is saying

Goddyrichie:
don’t defend failure yes they’re all d same but little different compare d suffering to now u will understand what d op is saying

LOL, they are all failures. You can disagree with me, but once you get it, you will see

Nothing for defending buhari or tinubu. They had choices that they should have made that they did not make.