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| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by lordprogress: 7:58pm On Mar 27 |
It is actually a very stupid bill to even consider, I always tell my colleagues on the importance of being part of politics, because that is where the decision are made. This is the advantage the physician have over other health professionals. Imagine a physician heading PCN, it sounds very silly right. I think it is time for johesu to wake up, they have been sleeping for too long. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by lordprogress: 8:36pm On Mar 27 |
lazborn:You see how stupid it sounds, now these greedy doctors are forcing themselves in lab as the head in most of the federal medical centers, I heard in asaba they are the supervising the pathology laboratory now. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Leonardo4(m): 8:41pm On Mar 27 |
Gotocourt:Even in the USA the medical director is a medical doctor. No where in the world is a medical director of a hospital not a doctor. What they they should ague for is that government should establish the role of a chief executive officer who oversees both the medical directors and Head of nursing services. He cam be an administrator not necessarily a doctor. But as for a medical director it's definitely doctors position |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by oluxy(m): 8:51pm On Mar 27 |
Dpharmacist:When you have people at the realm of affair only have forged certificates, secondary school leaving certificate and individuals who got the position or elected via bribes and money. What do you expect? |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by AMKAG66(m): 10:57pm On Mar 27*. Modified: 11:40pm On Mar 27 |
Host78:As a Medical Doctor myself,I'm completely against this decision. It's not global best practice. Other countries allow autonomy and teamwork among healthcare cadres, and there's a reason for that. This approach is a recipe for chaos and will further polarize the already tense working relationship between medical doctors and other allied healthcare professionals. Clinical knowledge isn't everything; healthcare provision is broad, and no one cadre can master it all. Devolution of roles allows for specialization and adequate expertise. This mindset to control other cadres or been seen as the rate-limiting step in the hospital at all cost is one major reason we’ve been seeing Nigerian doctors perform tasks meant for other cadres and sometimes to the level of janitorial,porter’s and errand staff roles ,contributing to burnout and the "Japa syndrome" of Nigerian doctors leaving the country. Worse off , these shortcomings have been normalized. It may also interest you to know that most of these doctors that pull down the sky just for them not to be led by other allied healthcare professionals, will gladly accept a job offer to work under the leadership of even non- healthcare related professionals in hospitals overseas. So what’s all this so called academic credential fuss about ? Hospitals can be led effectively by non-physicians, and leadership shouldn't be dictated by academic credentials alone. I've been led by nurses, pharmacists, and other professionals who excelled, while some senior medical consultants failed in administrative roles. I have also led professors and senior medical consultants in administrative positions equivalent to the CMD and had a successful tenure. Leadership is about teamwork, mutual respect, and recognizing the value of each cadre. It's time to move beyond the "minigod mentality" and elitism that hinders effective healthcare delivery. The roles of healthcare professionals should be complementary, not competitive. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by kafeii123: 11:34pm On Mar 27 |
U09ce:Minister of works must be an Engineer else there will be misplaced priorities.... for the healthcare system however...countries with robust healthcare systems have professionals administrators running the health centres |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by gaskiyamagana: 3:40am On Mar 28 |
Dpharmacist:A lways P ropose C. onfusion. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by gaskiyamagana: 3:45am On Mar 28 |
Dpharmacist:As governors were political Lords in the states and political slaves to Aso Rock, they wanted doctors to be health care delivery lords and other health professionals to be slaves. Always proposing confusion and enslavement politics! |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Amayabor1: 4:35am On Mar 28 |
FreeStuffsNG:What has NUC got to do with this? |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Amayabor1: 4:39am On Mar 28 |
Host78:What you are saying is different. What you wrote about is on patient management. In every hospital in Nigeria, it is the doctor that owns the patient. The doctor prescribe what medications he will take, write the test the patient should do, write the plan for the patient and the nurses follow the plan etc. Of course, if the pharmacist, nurse, or laboratory scientist has any issue with the doctor's plan, they can reach out to the doctor. What you just said doesn't happen in any hospital in the world. Trying to put all health professionals under MDCN (which is different from what you are saying) is a bad idea. I am a doctor and the idea doesn't make sense |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by OSESUNATE(m): 6:18am On Mar 28 |
Gotocourt:Give examples |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Topshow2010(m): 4:20pm On Mar 28 |
Host78:Stop distorting the truth and deluding yourself,the running of the hospital or a health ministry is purely administrative as being practiced globally or in a saner clime.Kindly Google to check the profession of those at the helms of affairs of the health ministries of most western countries and see that they are most times not of the physician professions. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by joyandfaith: 5:00pm On Mar 29 |
Pn AMKAG66:Doc, have you read through the bills?. There is no clinical governance in health sector. Professional bodies are extending their roles without recourse to clinical governance. I am sure most of those guys saying new health bills would make doctors dominate over them do not understand clinical governance. In developed countries, there is clinical governance and health system is well-structured. Most professional bodies in nigeria operate like cults and money-making ventures. Now government wants to introduce some measure to ensure transparency. I don't see how the bills benefit average doctor. Johesu leaders are mobilising their members against new bills because it would stop agitation in health sector. The new bills would safeguard health of the nation. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by joyandfaith: 5:02pm On Mar 29 |
Gotocourt:Which private hospitals. Mention them. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Dpharmacist(op): 11:28am On Apr 01 |
oluxy:It is indeed terrible to find ourselves in such predicament. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Dpharmacist(op): 11:30am On Apr 01 |
dapadawee:You will think that is a good thing but from previous experiences, doctors always sideline others, never making other professionals to progress despite been better qualified. You won't understand if you are not in the health sector. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Dpharmacist(op): 11:31am On Apr 01 |
JuanDeDios:You won't see this shiii happening in western world except somewhere like Nigeria. Always about hierarchy not collaboration. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Dpharmacist(op): 11:32am On Apr 01 |
jaephoenix:Thank you for this. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Dpharmacist(op): 11:32am On Apr 01 |
HelipsTech:Exactly. They will continue to subdue all other health professionals. |
| Re: Doctors Vs Other Professionals? Protest Erupts Over ‘power Grab’ Bill by Sonofwar: 4:30am On Apr 05 |
I'm not in support of that bill. Let them remain the way they are |
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