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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola:
Spy360:
Isn't the bar you set for Iran to win the war shameful and degrading? To win war is to just survive?
You think anyone fighting a war against a more powerful foe is setting a high bar for winning?

So if a 300 pound bully comes into your house to beat you up you will be looking for a high bar method to defeat him?

Do You think this is a movie?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 4:00pm On Mar 28
diggz:
Just so you know, many business ventures operate at a loss in their first year and sometimes even longer before they eventually become profitable. And in this tiefnubu economy, it is highly possible for Keke and bolt guys to end up running at a loss for several days. Plenty factors can easily push them into negative earnings e.g. agberos fee, police, expensive fuel, repairs, and more. Plus, you’re forgetting that most of the guys running these types of businesses don’t even own the keke or the vehicle. They’re either renting them or on hire purchase. So after paying the actual owners of these vehicles, how much do you really think is left for them to take home at the end of the day.

Abeg make una dey enter street go see wetin dey sup instead of all these internet gba takes.
Your post is a more balanced submission, but let me explain more to you .

Before the recent fuel price increase, let's agree that many transporters were making around 15k to 20k or more in daily profit. Now, if that drops to about 5k to ₦8,k, they tend to see it as a loss, even though they are still earning. That is largely the reason for the complaints, not necessarily because they are operating at a loss, but because they are no longer making what they used to.
Most of them also have financial commitments such as daily or weekly contributions (ajo) and installment payments. Despite the rise in fuel prices, many are still able to meet these, obligations, which raises a valid question if they were truly running at a daily loss, where would the money to sustain these commitments come from?
So, it’s not entirely accurate to claim they are operating at a loss. Fuel prices did not triple, they increased by roughly 35–40%. At the same time, transport fares have also increased, is transport fare the same?.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Realmrsean: 4:09pm On Mar 28
Spy360:
Isn't the bar you set for Iran to win the war shameful and degrading? To win war is to just survive?
what do you think should be Iran's bar in the war? If not to make sure the USA and Zionist regime doesn't succeed in any of their war plans and goals
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 4:10pm On Mar 28
Spy360:
Instead of stammering why don't you keep quiet and save yourself from unnecessary stupidity?

Very unnecessary.

People's reality is what you're chasing clout with
I don’t understand why many of you can’t have a simple and civil conversation without showing disrespect to everyone who has an opinion different from yours.
Bye, man.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Realmrsean: 4:10pm On Mar 28
GloriousGbola:
You think anyone fighting a war against a more powerful foe is setting a high bar for winning?

So if a 300 pound bully comes into your house to best you up you will be looking for a high bar method to defeat him?

Do You think this is a movie?
Iran has already performed above expectations by holding these bullies off and also squeezing them and inflicting heavy casualties on both whilst still standing in their feet 🐾
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:12pm On Mar 28
MorataFC:
Your post is a more balanced submission, but let me explain more to you .

Before the recent fuel price increase, let's agree that many transporters were making around 15k to 20k or more in daily profit. Now, if that drops to about 5k to ₦8,k, they tend to see it as a loss, even though they are still earning. That is largely the reason for the complaints, not necessarily because they are operating at a loss, but because they are no longer making what they used to.
Most of them also have financial commitments such as daily or weekly contributions (ajo) and installment payments. Despite the rise in fuel prices, many are still able to meet these, obligations, which raises a valid question if they were truly running at a daily loss, where would the money to sustain these commitments come from?
So, it’s not entirely accurate to claim they are operating at a loss. Fuel prices did not triple, they increased by roughly 35–40%. At the same time, transport fares have also increased, is transport fare the same?.
Fuel was 850 before. It is now 1300

That is roughly 50% increase

On top of this Nigeria is a mostly mono energy country - your sme runs on petrol generator. Your larger business on diesel gen - so their operating costs have gone up by 50%.

And we have a massive power failure across country

So our eateries, supermarkets, industries, hospitals, private offices etal are all running at massive increased costs with no end in sight.

The mobilisation costs for our projects has jumped. And it is by more than 50% when you throw in all the knock on effects
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 4:21pm On Mar 28
GloriousGbola:
Fuel was 850 before. It is now 1300

That is roughly 50% increase

On top of this Nigeria is a mostly mono energy country - your sme runs on petrol generator. Your larger business on diesel gen - so their operating costs have gone up by 50%.

And we have a massive power failure across country

So our eateries, supermarkets, industries, hospitals, private offices etal are all running at massive increased costs with no end in sight.

The mobilisation costs for our projects has jumped. And it is by more than 50% when you throw in all the knock on effects
You don change the course of the debate ooo 😂😂😂
Even on our farms, we run diesel 24 hours, (that one no be today oo) but the point of the discussion is about the drivers who claim they lose 5k daily, and the other guy that claimed he made only 50 naira in a whole day. That’s exactly what I believed it can't be true.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 4:23pm On Mar 28
GloriousGbola:
Fuel was 850 before. It is now 1300

That is roughly 50% increase

On top of this Nigeria is a mostly mono energy country - your sme runs on petrol generator. Your larger business on diesel gen - so their operating costs have gone up by 50%.

And we have a massive power failure across country

So our eateries, supermarkets, industries, hospitals, private offices etal are all running at massive increased costs with no end in sight.

The mobilisation costs for our projects has jumped. And it is by more than 50% when you throw in all the knock on effects
Yeah, you are correct about 50% increase, but the fare also has increased nao.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:30pm On Mar 28
MorataFC:
You don change the course of the debate ooo 😂😂😂
Even on our farms, we run diesel 24 hours, (that one no be today oo) but the point of the discussion is about the drivers who claim they lose 5k daily, and the other guy that claimed he made only 50 naira in a whole day. That’s exactly what I believed it can't be true.
That one is definitely bs to be honest. A transporter will immediately transfer his operating costs to you once his margins shrink.

A day a transporter does not make money is a day he will not eat.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoos1: 4:32pm On Mar 28
MorataFC:
Yeah, you are correct about 50% increase, but the fare also has increased nao.
The transport fare increase is even 3 times higher that whatever amount they are paying for fuel. Greedy bas*ards
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 4:51pm On Mar 28
Marco Rubio is too smart.

Obama really fvck up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to7q4x3VKl4?si=7QHMnagw4TpUmxkc
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 4:56pm On Mar 28
Thanks for coming grin grin

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 5:13pm On Mar 28
iamoyindamola:
Thanks for coming grin grin

Did you notice that Mc gave the women 5k each and the boy 3k
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 5:26pm On Mar 28
GloriousGbola:
Did you notice that Mc gave the women 5k each and the boy 3k
He doesn't have family, he's a join body grin grin
If they go all the APC conventions till 2027 it won't sum up 100k
People are going through alot grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 6:11pm On Mar 28
iamoyindamola:
Thanks for coming grin grin

No more way for poor people. 💔
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 6:50pm On Mar 28
Amigoos1:
The transport fare increase is even 3 times higher that whatever amount they are paying for fuel. Greedy bas*ards
Thank you jare.
Honestly, it’s easy to tell when people are speaking from sentiment rather than logic.
That’s exactly my point, once a story aligns with what people already believe, they stop analyzing it and simply accept it without questioning it.

These are the questions I’ve asked, but they’ve refused to answer.

Q: Is there an increase in fuel price?
A: Yes, there is.

Q: Has transport fare also increased too?
A: Yes it has.

It has increased and even in some places, it has even gone up by more than 50%.
For example, in my area (Ogun State), from Ilishan to Ikenne used to be #400. Now it’s #700, (that's almost 90% increase)and if you’re lucky to find a considerate okada man, maybe #600.

Is transport fare still the same as before in your area? (pls tell us, let us know ooo)
So how do we then explain drivers claiming they are running at a loss while also increasing fares and you people accepting that without proper analysis?
It doesn’t make sense @ all. That’s where I disagree.
If drivers had maintained the old transport fares despite the increase in fuel price, then I would understand the argument that they are running at a loss. But fares have also been increased. Haba we are not zombies nao

Now, some people argue that drivers still have other expenses, like vehicle maintenance, installment payments, (for those who buy their vehicle , Okada or Keke in installments plan)

But all these things are normal expenses nao, Whether fuel is #100 per litre or #2,000 per litre, you still have to maintain your vehicle, and you still to pay for your instalment plan, the same applies to police daily contributions too and other routine costs.
Fuel price increases have nothing to do with those expenses.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by SweetSoup(m): 6:59pm On Mar 28
MorataFC:
You don change the course of the debate ooo 😂😂😂
Even on our farms, we run diesel 24 hours, (that one no be today oo) but the point of the discussion is about the drivers who claim they lose 5k daily, and the other guy that claimed he made only 50 naira in a whole day. That’s exactly what I believed it can't be true.
You did not read the post very well, the Keke driver said he bought 5k fuel to start the day. He realised he made 5,050 when he wanted to refuel to continue work, meaning he made just 50naira from the first 5k fuel of day he bought and 50naira for the whole day.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 7:13pm On Mar 28
https://www.nairaland.com/8643607/trump-hangout-losers-it-makes/1#138919935


Omo wetin una give Trump chop? , abi the Special Assassination Operation in Iran don dey affect am
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 7:24pm On Mar 28
SweetSoup:
You did not read the post very well, the Keke driver said he bought 5k fuel to start the day. He realised he made 5,050 when he wanted to refuel to continue work, meaning he made just 50naira from the first 5k fuel of day he bought and 50naira for the whole day.
It all boils down to the same thing, I don’t believe the story. You can’t buy 5k worth of fuel and end up making a profit of just #50. That’s practically impossible.
Why is he the only one making such an unbelievable claim?
It is odd, that is why it is trending

These days, many people fabricate stories or fabricate odd things just to trend. Go on platforms like Twitter or TikTok and you will see plenty of exaggerated or completely madeup stories.
Ask that man simple questions:
How much was the transport fare before?
How much is he charging now?
Unless he is still charging the old price,but with Nigerian drivers, that is impossible
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by PDPGuy: 7:29pm On Mar 28
Food for thought

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:46pm On Mar 28
MorataFC:
It all boils down to the same thing, I don’t believe the story. You can’t buy 5k worth of fuel and end up making a profit of just #50. That’s practically impossible.
Why is he the only one making such an unbelievable claim?
It is odd, that is why it is trending

These days, many people fabricate stories or fabricate odd things just to trend. Go on platforms like Twitter or TikTok and you will see plenty of exaggerated or completely madeup stories.
Ask that man simple questions:
How much was the transport fare before?
How much is he charging now?
Unless he is still charging the old price,but with Nigerian drivers, that is impossible
A standard Keke Napep (tricycle) typically has a fuel tank capacity of 10 to 12 liters (roughly 2.6 to 3.2 gallons). This capacity provides a driving range of approximately 300 km. Some models, particularly CNG-compatible ones, may have smaller gasoline tanks (around 8 liters) combined with a gas tank.
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Fuel Capacity: Usually 12L for standard Bajaj models.
Range: Approximately 30-40 km/l.
5000 is roughly 4 litres

That is approx 120km maybe 100km when you remove efficiency

Your average keke trip is 1 to 2km at n200 to n 300 per passenger. A trip with three people is
n900

The story makes no mathematical sense and I am sure most actual keke riders are supporting him by being silent
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:50pm On Mar 28
PDPGuy:
Food for thought
What liability does a divorced man in Nigeria face?

There is no alimony, no enforcement of child support. As a man you face no risk.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 7:55pm On Mar 28
WhoDeyHause:
No more way for poor people. 💔
They desperately depend on crumbs
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by PDPGuy: 8:17pm On Mar 28
GloriousGbola:
What liability does a divorced man in Nigeria face?

There is no alimony, no enforcement of child support. As a man you face no risk.
Right. It’s men living in Western countries that face such issues.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 8:17pm On Mar 28
monerozi5590:
Marco Rubio is too smart.

Obama really fvck up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to7q4x3VKl4?si=7QHMnagw4TpUmxkc
Smart and intelligent.

He predicted Iran....and its happening
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 8:42pm On Mar 28
GloriousGbola:
5000 is roughly 4 litres

That is approx 120km maybe 100km when you remove efficiency

Your average keke trip is 1 to 2km at n200 to n 300 per passenger. A trip with three people is
n900

The story makes no mathematical sense and I am sure most actual keke riders are supporting him by being silent
That calculation sounds neat, but you ignore a key factor, transport fares have also increased alongside fuel prices.

Why are you people ignoring that fact?
Are drivers still charging the old fares?
Certainly not.

Now, let’s look at this calculations more carefully:

Old Price
Fuel cost comparison (for 4 litres):
Old price: #870 × 4L = #3,480

New price: #1,400 × 4L = #5,600

At the old price:
Keke carries 3 passengers at #300 each = #900 per trip
Assume 6 trips, #900 × 6 trips = #5,400

Profit :
#5,400 − #3,480 =
#1,920 ( by 6 trips )

At the new price:
Keke carries 3 passengers at #500 each, #1,500 per trip
Assume the same 6 trips → #1,500 × 6 = #9,000

Profit:
#9,000 − #5,600 = #3,400 ( per 6 trips )

So even with higher fuel costs, increased fares have more gain the the old petrol price.

Let me go a bit lower sef.

Let assume the transport fares is #400


At the new price (#400 per passenger):
Keke carries 3 passengers at #400 each, #1,200 per trip
Assume 6 trips, #1,200 × 6 = #7,200

Profit:
#7,200 − #5,600 = #1,600 (per 6 trips )

So mathematically the higher the price of fuel in Nigeria the higher the profit for drivers, don't let them bobo you .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:47pm On Mar 28
MorataFC:
That calculation sounds neat, but you ignore a key factor, transport fares have also increased alongside fuel prices.

Why are you people ignoring that fact?
Are drivers still charging the old fares?
Certainly not.

Now, let’s look at this calculations more carefully:

Old Price
Fuel cost comparison (for 4 litres):
Old price: #870 × 4L = #3,480

New price: #1,400 × 4L = #5,600

At the old price:
Keke carries 3 passengers at #300 each = #900 per trip
Assume 6 trips, #900 × 6 trips = #5,400

Profit :
#5,400 − #3,480 =
#1,920 ( by 6 trips )

At the new price:
Keke carries 3 passengers at #500 each, #1,500 per trip
Assume the same 6 trips → #1,500 × 6 = #9,000

Profit:
#9,000 − #5,600 = #3,400 ( per 6 trips )

So even with higher fuel costs, increased fares have more gain the the old petrol price.

Let me go a bit lower sef.

Let assume the transport fares is #400


At the new price (#400 per passenger):
Keke carries 3 passengers at #400 each, #1,200 per trip
Assume 6 trips, #1,200 × 6 = #7,200

Profit:
#7,200 − #5,600 = #1,600 (per 6 trips )

So mathematically the higher the price of fuel in Nigeria the higher the profit for drivers, don't let them bobo you .
I believe We are saying the same thing

Simple maths shows that the revenue on 4 litres of fuel is way more than 5000
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:49pm On Mar 28
MorataFC:
That calculation sounds neat, but you ignore a key factor, transport fares have also increased alongside fuel prices.

Why are you people ignoring that fact?
Are drivers still charging the old fares?
Certainly not.

Now, let’s look at this calculations more carefully:

Old Price
Fuel cost comparison (for 4 litres):
Old price: #870 × 4L = #3,480

New price: #1,400 × 4L = #5,600

At the old price:
Keke carries 3 passengers at #300 each = #900 per trip
Assume 6 trips, #900 × 6 trips = #5,400

Profit :
#5,400 − #3,480 =
#1,920 ( by 6 trips )

At the new price:
Keke carries 3 passengers at #500 each, #1,500 per trip
Assume the same 6 trips → #1,500 × 6 = #9,000

Profit:
#9,000 − #5,600 = #3,400 ( per 6 trips )

So even with higher fuel costs, increased fares have more gain the the old petrol price.

Let me go a bit lower sef.

Let assume the transport fares is #400


At the new price (#400 per passenger):
Keke carries 3 passengers at #400 each, #1,200 per trip
Assume 6 trips, #1,200 × 6 = #7,200

Profit:
#7,200 − #5,600 = #1,600 (per 6 trips )

So mathematically the higher the price of fuel in Nigeria the higher the profit for drivers, don't let them bobo you .
The patronage obviously becomes lesser with the increase. I think that's the assumption you're getting wrong.

The roads are currently free in Lagos.

Ibiye to Agbara is 300 naira with Keke. This was the old price at 870/ltr. I still entered it at 300 naira today.

Alakija to 3rd avenue was 500 at the old rate with Okada. It is still 500 to 600 now at 1320/ltr

While I agree with you that 50 naira profit is not true, The increase doesn't mean more money. It brings a lesser patronage for them.

People will rather trek, lap themselves, find private vehicle to beg or get a lift, or find alternative means than pay the increase.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by YoungB1a(m): 9:27pm On Mar 28
MorataFC:
It all boils down to the same thing, I don’t believe the story. You can’t buy 5k worth of fuel and end up making a profit of just #50. That’s practically impossible.
Why is he the only one making such an unbelievable claim?
It is odd, that is why it is trending

These days, many people fabricate stories or fabricate odd things just to trend. Go on platforms like Twitter or TikTok and you will see plenty of exaggerated or completely madeup stories.
Ask that man simple questions:
How much was the transport fare before?
How much is he charging now?
Unless he is still charging the old price,but with Nigerian drivers, that is impossible
It’s possible to make about ₦50 after buying ₦5,000 worth of fuel (around 3.5 liters) in Warri, especially if the driver runs three trips from Ekpan Expression Junction to PTI without carrying a full load.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 9:28pm On Mar 28
izzou:
The patronage obviously becomes lesser with the increase. I think that's the assumption you're getting wrong.

The roads are currently free in Lagos.

Ibiye to Agbara is 300 naira with Keke. This was the old price at 870/ltr. I still entered it at 300 naira today.

Alakija to 3rd avenue was 500 at the old rate with Okada. It is still 500 to 600 now at 1320/ltr

While I agree with you that 50 naira profit is not true, The increase doesn't mean more money. It brings a lesser patronage for them.

People will rather trek, lap themselves, find private vehicle to beg or get a lift, or find alternative means than pay the increase.
Some got these vehicles on hire purchase and will still deliver returns to the owner
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 9:29pm On Mar 28
izzou:
The patronage obviously becomes lesser with the increase. I think that's the assumption you're getting wrong.

The roads are currently free in Lagos.

Ibiye to Agbara is 300 naira with Keke. This was the old price at 870/ltr. I still entered it at 300 naira today.

Alakija to 3rd avenue was 500 at the old rate with Okada. It is still 500 to 600 now at 1320/ltr

While I agree with you that 50 naira profit is not true, The increase doesn't mean more money. It brings a lesser patronage for them.

People will rather trek, lap themselves, find private vehicle to beg or get a lift, or find alternative means than pay the increase.
I was reading to see whether others will point out to him that an increase in fuel price often leads to decrease in patronage for transport workers. His assumptions fall flat when you consider the fact that there are less people on the road hence fewer people boarding vehicles per trip for the transporter.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Sportsweb: 9:34pm On Mar 28
Make Trump Back off from this ear, Iran is winning. They just captured some Marine that tried to enter Hormuz

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