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OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. - Politics (3) - Nairaland

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Poll: Who should reparations pay for slavery?

White people only 18% (3 votes)
Arabs, African rulers who sold slaves &Whites 81% (13 votes)
This poll has ended

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Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by cr7lomo:
Kushites:
USE YOUR BRAIN.

YOU ARE IN THE DAYS OF AI.

YOU CAN GO ON CHATGPT NOW AND CONFIRM.

I DARE YOU NOW. GO ON CHATGPT AND ASK "WHERE WAS MATHEMATICS INVENTED?"

ANSWER: Africa South of the Sahara. LEBOMBO BONE. 25,000 BCE. CONGO.

ASK ABOUT THE OLDEST IRON SMELTING SITE ON EARTH.

ANSWER: LEJJA NIGERIA. 2650 BCE.

THAT IS JUST A TINY FRACTION OF WHAT YOU WILL LEARN.

YOU MIGHT EVEN LEARN ABOUT THE 250 PYRAMIDS IN YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR, SUDAN, BUILT WITH ADVANCED MATHEMATICAL PRINCIPLES AND GEOMETRY, THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE ANY BUILDING IN EUROPE OR AMERICA.

YOU MIGHT LEARN ABOUT THE BENIN EARTHWORKS AND RAMPART SYSTEM, INCLUDED IN THE 1974 GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS AS "THE WORLD'S LARGEST MAN-MADE STRUCTURE BUILT PRIOR TO THE MECHANICAL ERA", AND WHICH AT ITS PEAK, WAS 4 TIMES LONGER THAN THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA.

YOU MIGHT LEARN THAT 16TH CENTURY BENIN CITY WAS DESCRIBED BY VISITING PORTUGESE AND DUTCH TRADERS AS BEING AMONG THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AND BEST PLANNED CITIES IN THE WORLD, BUILT WITH ADVANCED FRACTAL MATHEMATICS, UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE AIDED BY SUNKEN IMPLUVIUMS, AND PALM-OIL STREETLIGHTS 300 YEARS BEFORE LONDON.

YOU MIGHT EVEN LEARN THAT AFRICANS WERE THE FIRST SETTLERS AND KINGS OF EVERY LAND ON EARTH, FROM EUROPE TO CHINA.

OH THERE'S A LOT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT AFRICA'S GLORIOUS HISTORY OF HIGH CIVILISATION.
See this one de talk about cave men... we are talking about inventions we use today. . U de talk about 25000 yrs ago
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by HardMirror(op): 8:56pm On Mar 29
2mch:
Nobody happily did slavery. That’s a lie.
no body is happily a houseboy or housegirl. Show me where you ever campaigned against modern human trafficking. You are only interested when white people do it. Where slaves owned by blacks happy or it is only when white people are the masters that they are sad?
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by HardMirror(op): 8:57pm On Mar 29
cr7lomo:
See this one de talk about cave men... we are talking about inventions we use today. . U de talk about 25 ooo yrs ago
the yeye boy does not even know that Africans don't even have means of writing. Tell him to show you writen records from his ancestors. A race that could not even write is what he is hyping.
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by lawani(m):
Kushites:
SORRY, I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHERE YOU GOT THIS FAIRYTALE PIECE OF PSEUDO SCIENCE FROM.

WHEN YOU ARE READY FOR REAL HISTORY, NOT FAIRYTALES, USE CHATGPT AI TO EDUCATE YOURSELF.

THERE, YOU WILL LEARN THAT THE ICE AGE WAS A PERIOD IN WHICH BLACK AFRICANS INHABITED EUROPE, AS WAS SEEN BY THE DISCOVERY OF "GRIMALDI MAN" (40,000 BCE) AND "CHEDDAR MAN" (10,000 BCE) - HUMAN REMAINS OF BLACK AFRICAN PEOPLE.

NOT WHITES.

BLACKS.

FIRST SETTLERS. WORLDWIDE.

WHITES ONLY EMERGED AROUND 7,000 BCE.

THEY ARE BABIES AND NEWCOMERS TO CIVILISATION, WHICH EXPLAINS THEIR SPIRITUAL EMPTINESS.
Any group that lived in Europe for a long time would end up light skinned. If you live south of the Sahara for a long time you become dark. In China for a long time you look like Chinese.

Temperate regions get emptied of people as a result of glaciation and that happens from time to time. Black people don't live in temperate regions and their habitat never becomes empty of people. All the people in the temperate regions today will still relocate to the global south driven out by ice. The ice will recede after thousands of years and the people who will recolonize the North will be dark skinned. Does that now mean white people never existed? If you see ruins in Europe in 120 thousand years time, will it mean it was built by black people?

Australoids are black but Europeans are more related to west Africans than Australoids are to west Africans. But with your logic, Europeans are spiritually empty while Australoids are not because they are black. What do you even mean by whites are spiritually empty? All groups on Earth had spirituality embedded in their culture in the same way before religion came to spoil the air. How therefore is any group more spiritually full than any other?.

Chatgpt has no IQ as someone said. It just regurgitates things it found on the internet which are not necessarily true. You don't need to rely on it for wisdom.
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by 2mch(m): 10:27am On Mar 30
HardMirror:
no body is happily a houseboy or housegirl. Show me where you ever campaigned against modern human trafficking. You are only interested when white people do it. Where slaves owned by blacks happy or it is only when white people are the masters that they are sad?
Your argument makes no sense and is not relevant to transatlantic slave trade. The fact is no one is happy being anybody’s slave and no one is happy enslaving innocent people because of a groups greed and oppression. Africans never treated people that way. That’s not our culture. Every man was born free and have a right to their freedom. That’s what humans believe. That’s why Africans never did life time slavery and certainly not generational slavery. It’s usually a prisoner of war situation which you get your freedom soon after your captors see you are assimilated and you are granted full rights in society. Only demons and monsters continue to enslave for generations and feed off generational oppression. That’s a very sick system that you are defending there.
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by HardMirror(op): 8:36am On Mar 31
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2mch:
Your argument makes no sense and is not relevant to transatlantic slave trade. The fact is no one is happy being anybody’s slave and no one is happy enslaving innocent people because of a groups greed and oppression. Africans never treated people that way. That’s not our culture. Every man was born free and have a right to their freedom. That’s what humans believe. That’s why Africans never did life time slavery and certainly not generational slavery. It’s usually a prisoner of war situation which you get your freedom soon after your captors see you are assimilated and you are granted full rights in society. Only demons and monsters continue to enslave for generations and feed off generational oppression. That’s a very sick system that you are defending there.
of cos it is only transatlantic slavery you want to talk about. The slavery within Africa is none of your business. The slavery carried out by African kings to the extent that thousands were used for human sacrifice is none of your business. Or has the oba of Benin apologized for the slaves they used for human sacrifices? You only care when it involves white people because they are the only ones willing to apologize
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by lawani(m): 8:57am On Mar 31
HardMirror:
J of cos it is only transatlantic slavery you want to talk about. The slavery within Africa is none of your business. The slavery carried out by African kings to the extent that thousands were used for human sacrifice is none of your business. Or has the oba of Benin apologized for the slaves they used for human sacrifices? You only care when it involves white people because they are the only ones willing to apologize
Where were thousands of people used for human sacrifice? How many people will then remain to be taxed?
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by Ojuntana: 10:48am On Apr 09
Christistruth00:
Was Lagos the United Kingdom?
Oba Kosoko was still exporting slaves on an industrial scale from Lagos in 1851 !!!

The British were not in firm control of the Atlantic that was why they had to Bombard Lagos because the Portuguese were still shipping slaves to Brazil

The British Navy caught some slave ships but many still got through

Oba Kosoko even had his own personal slave ships staffed with Portuguese Sailors shipping people off to Brazil!!!
The question is who controlled the Atlantic and interacted with Lagos in the 1800s. It was the British not the Portuguese as you wrongly claimed. It was the British who helped Akitoye reclaim his throne not there Portuguese and it had nothing to do with slavery.
Slave trading had massively reduced by the 1840s
Go and read up your history. The Portuguese contact with Lagos was in the 1400s-1600s
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by dettolgel: 10:53am On Apr 09
HardMirror:
This recent noise and demands for reparations to be paid by Europe and America for slavery IS THE MOST DISHONEST demand in human history.


Are you aware that it is African governments that will collect the money if paid?

Are you even aware that arabs enslaved more Africans than the West? So why are we afraid of confronting arabs to pay us? We see Oyimbo as mumu.

Do you know that it was Africans selling the slaves? Oh they left that part and fooling you to think it is the white man that is evil.


Are you aware that our African kings never wanted the slave trade to end, but it was the White people that forced them to end slavery? Benin republic literally fought a war because they wanted to continue selling slaves after France told them to stop


Educate yourself before you try to talk about slavery.

Do you know that Housboys and house girls today is practically modern day slavery? But to you only white people are evil abi?


Why not demand all the African Kings that sold slaves to also pay the families of the slaves they sold?
Edit your post and add Arabs to it, they were among the first that started selling Africans as slave
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by Christistruth00: 1:39pm On Apr 09
Ojuntana:
The question is who controlled the Atlantic and interacted with Lagos in the 1800s. It was the British not the Portuguese as you wrongly claimed. It was the British who helped Akitoye reclaim his throne not there Portuguese and it had nothing to do with slavery.
Slave trading had massively reduced by the 1840s
Go and read up your history. The Portuguese contact with Lagos was in the 1400s-1600s
Of course it was the British who helped Akitoye gain his Throne Back and it was the Portuguese who helped Kosoko chase him off the Throne and out of Town in the first place

If you saw any thing different it would have been a typo error
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by HardMirror(op): 4:40pm On Apr 09
dettolgel:
Edit your post and add Arabs to it, they were among the first that started selling Africans as slave
read it properly. I mentioned arabs
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by HardMirror(op): 4:42pm On Apr 09
lawani:
Where were thousands of people used for human sacrifice? How many people will then remain to be taxed?
every year, kingdoms like Benin kingdom sacrificed hundreds of slaves
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by dettolgel: 7:20pm On Apr 09
HardMirror:
read it properly. I mentioned arabs
You are right, I missed that part.
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by jazzman7711: 7:39pm On Apr 09
HardMirror:
the yeye boy does not even know that Africans don't even have means of writing. Tell him to show you writen records from his ancestors. A race that could not even write is what he is hyping.
Writing?

WRITING THAT AFRICANS INVENTED?

ARE YOU SICK?

THE AFRICAN WRITING THAT TERRIFIED EUROPE:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuc8AneauKE?si=TGV6mkL4uJX2t5iL
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by Topman7: 7:49pm On Apr 09
cr7lomo:
See this one de talk about cave men... we are talking about inventions we use today. . U de talk about 25000 yrs ago
Whether it's a million years ago or yesterday night, you still know ZERO about the accomplishments of blacks, because your heads are filled with Western Propaganda.

THE VERY DIGITAL WORLD, INTERNET, GPS, AI, AND COMPUTER YOU ARE USING, ARE ALL THE INVENTIONS OF BLACK PEOPLE.

THE BLACKS WHO BUILT AI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1wQV6bU95Y?si=vaKPW4dR8Jdzv98U
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by Topman7: 7:51pm On Apr 09
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ABOVE VIDEO. WITHOUT BLACKS, THE ENTIRE WORLD WOULD BE IN THE STONE AGE.
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by Topman7: 7:57pm On Apr 09
lawani:
Any group that lived in Europe for a long time would end up light skinned. If you live south of the Sahara for a long time you become dark. In China for a long time you look like Chinese.

Temperate regions get emptied of people as a result of glaciation and that happens from time to time. Black people don't live in temperate regions and their habitat never becomes empty of people. All the people in the temperate regions today will still relocate to the global south driven out by ice. The ice will recede after thousands of years and the people who will recolonize the North will be dark skinned. Does that now mean white people never existed? If you see ruins in Europe in 120 thousand years time, will it mean it was built by black people?

Australoids are black but Europeans are more related to west Africans than Australoids are to west Africans. But with your logic, Europeans are spiritually empty while Australoids are not because they are black. What do you even mean by whites are spiritually empty? All groups on Earth had spirituality embedded in their culture in the same way before religion came to spoil the air. How therefore is any group more spiritually full than any other?.

Chatgpt has no IQ as someone said. It just regurgitates things it found on the internet which are not necessarily true. You don't need to rely on it for wisdom.
STOP TALKING RUBBISH.

GO AND LOOK UP GRIMALDI MAN, CHEDDAR MAN, ICE MAN, ALL DISCOVERIES OF HUMAN REMAINS DISCOVERED IN EUROPE, FOUND TO BE BLACK AFRICANS, AND CARBON-DATED TO 10,000 BCE ALL THE WAY TO 40,000 BCE IN THE CASE OF GRIMALDI MAN.
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by lawani(m): 8:02pm On Apr 09
Topman7:
STOP TALKING RUBBISH.

GO AND LOOK UP GRIMALDI MAN, CHEDDAR MAN, ICE MAN, ALL DISCOVERIES OF HUMAN REMAINS DISCOVERED IN EUROPE, FOUND TO BE BLACK AFRICANS, AND CARBON-DATED TO 10,000 BCE ALL THE WAY TO 40,000 BCE IN THE CASE OF GRIMALDI MAN.
You don't need anything but common sense to know that white people lived in Europe before the last ice age. Just common sense is enough
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by Topman7: 8:07pm On Apr 09
lawani:
You don't need anything but common sense to know that white people lived in Europe before the last ice age. Just common sense is enough
YOU NEED A BRAIN TO VISIT GOOGLE AND LEARN ABOUT GRIMALDI MAN, CHEDDAR MAN, AND THE BLACK RACE WHICH SETTLED THE ENTIRE WORLD FOR MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE WHITE PEOPLE EXISTED.
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by Topman7: 8:10pm On Apr 09
THE LEVEL OF IGNORANCE AMONG YOU NIGERIANS IS ABSOLUTELY SCANDALOUS.

YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE DECADES-LONG ESTABLISHED SCIENTIFIC FACT THAT BLACK AFRICANS ARE THE FIRST OF ALL HUMANS.

AND THAT EVERYONE ON EARTH IS DESCENDED FROM BLACK AFRICAN MIGRANTS.

YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT!

Something that has been Genetically Established for over a decade.

YOUR IGNORANCE STINKS.
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by lawani(m): 8:27pm On Apr 09
Topman7:
YOU NEED A BRAIN TO VISIT GOOGLE AND LEARN ABOUT GRIMALDI MAN, CHEDDAR MAN, AND THE BLACK RACE WHICH SETTLED THE ENTIRE WORLD FOR MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE WHITE PEOPLE EXISTED.
Skin pigmentation is an adaptation to the climate. That is basic science. The latitude of your habitat as a people determines your average phenotype overtime. I have neanderthal DNA in me as a Yoruba. The DNA is from over twenty thousand years ago and Neanderthals were natives of Europe and white. I have white ancestors and I am black now. Anybody with neanderthal DNA had some white ancestors It can be possible that the foundational Yorubas were white since they have Neanderthal DNA. Some Europeans have ten times more Neanderthal content than the Yoruba if I remember right while some have just like three times and Europeans too were dark as at a few thousand years back but both west Africans and Europeans got Neanderthal DNA from ancient white ancestors. There are ruins in Europe that were built before the last ice age. They were not built by the ancestors of the current Europeans and those ruins were obviously built by ancient white people unless you think people can live in Europe for 100k years without becoming white. Nobody can live in west Africa for five thousand years without becoming black
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by Christistruth00:
cr7lomo:
Africans invented nothing...stop using fake YouTube videos to deceive urself ... no be only mathematics...na encyclopedia
It was West Africans who invented innoculation
The Black slaves used to inoculate themselves against diseases like smallpox
When their white slave masters saw that it worked they started copying them but they never accredited it to the Black slaves

Till today Nigerian native doctors still use incisions for innoculation purposes

Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by HardMirror(op): 8:54pm On Apr 09
jazzman7711:
Writing?

WRITING THAT AFRICANS INVENTED?

ARE YOU SICK?

THE AFRICAN WRITING THAT TERRIFIED EUROPE:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuc8AneauKE?si=TGV6mkL4uJX2t5iL
show me the alphabet or form of writing your ancestors used. Which books or records did your ancestors write. I am waiting.
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by HardMirror(op): 8:55pm On Apr 09
Christistruth00:
It was West Africans who invented innoculation
The Black slaves used to inoculate themselves against diseases like smallpox
When their white slave masters saw that it worked they started copying them but they never accredited it to the Black slaves

Till today Nigerian native doctors still use incisions for innoculation purposes
lies and stories. Anyone can just talk shit. I can as well claim it is Africans that invented nuclear energy. Since we just want to start making up lies
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by Kushites: 8:57pm On Apr 09
HardMirror:
show me the alphabet or form of writing your ancestors used. Which books or records did your ancestors write. I am waiting.
NO, TELL US ABOUT YOUR ANCESTORS.

WHO ARE YOU AND WHERE ARE YOU FROM?

YOU CANNOT AFFORD DATA TO WATCH THE VIDEO?

GO AND HUSTLE AND GET MONEY, SO YOU CAN AFFORD DATA.

THE AFRICAN WRITING THAT TERRIFIED THE COLONIAL LOOTERS


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuc8AneauKE?si=TGV6mkL4uJX2t5iL
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by Kushites: 9:03pm On Apr 09
HardMirror:
lies and stories. Anyone can just talk shit. I can as well claim it is Africans that invented nuclear energy. Since we just want to start making up lies
SHUT UP AND USE YOUR BRAIN.

WHEN YOU READ A CLAIM SUCH AS ''AFRICANS INVENTED INOCULATION'', INSTEAD OF STUPIDLY DISMISSING IT WITHOUT INVESTIGATION, YOU USE YOUR BRAIN TO GO ON GOOGLE OR AI AND RESEARCH FURTHER.

WHAT WAS THE POINT OF YOUR EDUCATION IF YOU CANNOT RESEARCH SIMPLE, BASIC INFORMATION IN THIS DIGITAL AGE?

JUST GO BACK TO YOUR VILLAGE WHERE YOU BELONG.
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by lawani(m): 9:25pm On Apr 09
Christistruth00:
It was West Africans who invented innoculation
The Black slaves used to inoculate themselves against diseases like smallpox
When their white slave masters saw that it worked they started copying them but they never accredited it to the Black slaves

Till today Nigerian native doctors still use incisions for innoculation purposes
It is possible for one thing to be invented twice. A British scientist is credited for inventing vaccination. He was said to have noticed that girls that milk cows don't get infected of small pox and it was because they were exposed to cowpox. Sanponna priests used to take pus from small pox victims perform operations on it and inject children with it and any child that survives will be deemed to be above small pox. They know that the vast majority survives while a small minority don't. It was better than small pox wiping out the whole community
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by Christistruth00: 10:18pm On Apr 09
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lawani:
It is possible for one thing to be invented twice. A British scientist is credited for inventing vaccination. He was said to have noticed that girls that milk cows don't get infected of small pox and it was because they were exposed to cowpox. Sanponna priests used to take pus from small pox victims perform operations on it and inject children with it and any child that survives will be deemed to be above small pox. They know that the vast majority survives while a small minority don't. It was better than small pox wiping out the whole community
Very good and honest analysis
Re: OPINION: This Is Why The West Must NEVER Pay A Dim To Africa For Slavery. by Christistruth00: 10:47pm On Apr 09
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HardMirror:
lies and stories. Anyone can just talk shit. I can as well claim it is Africans that invented nuclear energy. Since we just want to start making up lies

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