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Obviously you lack intellectual capability to argue about what you kick-started so i will help you.
Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in war so if you want to talk about the BENEFITS of WAR it's those who believe in it you need to showcase since they believe in it then you tell us what they are BENEFITING from it.

QuinQQ:
Ok, let me bring down to elementary school level for you.
Let's say you get wind that a group that hates JW is planning to attack your KH. You later see an armed group gathering near your KH. Naturally you call the police. When the police come they attack the police and they start fighting. What is that fight called? Afterwards the police subdue them and post some officers near your KH and you resume having your meetings in peace. What is your benefit from that war?

Wizardslayer:
Our God is a God of war.

If you want peace prepare for war.

The God of Israel is God of war.

The whole world should be forever grateful to Benjamin netanyahu, Donald trump and the nation of Israel for their dedication in taming terrorists and radical extremists.

"God of Isreal" lol
Iran has more Christians than Isreal.

God is no longer behind Isreal, they lost that privilege. God is God of all people.

RealityKings1:
➜Humans like yourself wrote those books based on their personal experience. You can determine your experience and how to interpret it

So, basically, your god is of your own making? I see! So, why the earlier God is for everyone bullsheet?🤔

Kobojunkie:
. Stop telling yourself this lie. 🤔

The Greek gods made it abundantly clear that they are only for the Greeks. The Hindu gods made it abundantly clear that they value only their people, the Hindus. Sango, Obatala, and all of the other Yoruba gods made it clear through their many myths that the people who mattered were the individual Yoruba tribes to whom they gave their names. The same applies, as far as the Igbo gods, the Danish gods, etc. 🤔

Even in the book belonging to the Arabs, it is made clear that their book and deity apply only to the Arabs to whom it was given. So, where in the world did you obtain this notion that, despite the God of Israel proclaiming Himself God only of the people of Israel, he has to be wrong because you believe instead God is for everyone? 🤔

Don't get me wrong now! You are quite free to create for yourself a deity that is for everyone, but you cannot chip away at or diminish the facts by this personal delusion of yours.🤔

I am above every book

Kobojunkie:
So, basically, your god is of your own making? I see! So, why the earlier God is for everyone bullsheet?🤔

Cognitive development enables you to descreen and pick what is right. Not because it's morally right but the mind guides your factor.
So even if the idea of a supreme deity is pitched to you, you can chose to buy it a whole or pick which seem right.

When I say Cognitive I mean the mental processes involved in gaining knowledge like comprehension, thinking, knowing, remembering, judging, and solving problems.

Now if there are some things you learn in the " books or oral tradition" your cognitive factor should be able to guide you right

ThePlugg:
But God waged war on the Devil and his demons,the people of God waged wars on their enemies and conquer,I really pity the catholics and their idol worshiping

Pitty yourself first

KelvinHerbert:
Times have changed and society is more united and intelligent than it used to be.

So God has changed I guess

Yes

RealityKings1:
➜Cognitive development enables you to descreen and pick what is right. Not because it's morally right but the mind guides your factor. So even if the idea of a supreme deity is pitched to you, you can chose to buy it a whole or pick which seem right.
➜ When I say Cognitive I mean the mental processes involved in gaining knowledge like comprehension, thinking, knowing, remembering, judging, and solving problems. Now if there are some things you learn in the " books or oral tradition" your cognitive factor should be able to guide you right

1. According to you, you have the freedom to believe in only the parts that appeal to you of this supposed supreme being while discarding aspects that do not. But do you not see that by so doing you invariably create for yourself a totally different being from the so-called supreme being that was initially presented to you by these acts of yours? 🤔

2. There are no universal books of oral tradition out there... humanity has never been able to produce one of those. Some books once belonged to certain cultures that eventually became available to people of other cultures and traditions, though. So, if you borrow ideas from certain traditions and then twist them into something completely different from the original, you do not go around pretending that your creation and the original must be the same. And this is for obvious reasons. 🤔

RealityKings1:
➜I am above every book

You are above every book, yet somehow you keep insisting that every book operates under the same God delusion that you do? Give me a break abeg! 🤔

Kobojunkie:
1. According to you, you have the freedom to believe in only the parts that appeal to you of this supposed supreme being while discarding aspects that do not. But do you not see that by so doing you invariably create for yourself a totally different being from the so-called supreme being that was initially presented to you by these acts of yours?

2. There are no universal books of oral tradition out there... humanity has never been able to produce one of those. Some books once belonged to certain cultures that eventually became available to people of other cultures and traditions, though. So, if you borrow ideas from certain traditions and then twist them into something completely different from the original, you do not go around pretending that your creation and the original must be the same. And this is for obvious reasons. 🤔

@ 1 the bolded, That's the exact aim
@2 I used that point to enlighten you

RealityKings1:
@ 1 the bolded, That's the exact aim
@2 I used that point to enlighten you

1. If you aimed to have a personal deity of your own making, then why the initial lie?

2. Enlighten me by way of that gobbledegook you spewed? Are you sure you are OK? Blink twice if you need help! 🤔

MaxInDHouse:
Obviously you lack intellectual capability to grasp what you are saying so i will help you.
Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in war so if you want to talk about the BENEFITS of WAR it's those who believe in it you need to showcase since they believe in it then you tell us what they are BENEFITING from it.

You were asked a question at the end of my narrative. Doesn't have to be JW, you can substitute any group u wish. Just focus on answering that question. Answering it, you'll mysteriously receive a revelation. Revelation of BENEFITS of WAR!
Bye bye

Kobojunkie:
1. If you aimed to have a personal deity of your own making, then why the initial lie?

2. Enlighten me by way of that gobbledegook you spewed? Are you sure you are OK? Blink twice if you need help! 🤔

Night don do oh

But the Catholic Church used to have Crusaders and Papal Army. Ni bo la tun ja si bayi. The Catholic Church used to wage war and support countries against one another by claiming Holy War for God. This is why Queen Elizabeth broke away from the Pope and they created Protestants. Go and watch some of these shows on NetFlix then research the History behind them all...unfortunately the church has blood on its hand, so no one really care about what the Pope says anymore.

SarcasticWords:
Source : https://dailypost.ng/2026/03/29/god-does-not-hear-prayers-of-leaders-who-wage-war-pope-leo-xiv/

MasterTeeUSA:
1. But the Catholic Church used to have Crusaders and Papal Army. Ni bo la tun ja si bayi. The Catholic Church used to wage war and support countries against one another by claiming Holy War for God.
2. This is why Queen Elizabeth broke away from the Pope and they created Protestants. Go and watch some of these shows on NetFlix then research the History behind them all...unfortunately the church has blood on its hand, so no one really care about what the Pope says anymore.

Small correction. The Crusades were fought entirely to protect the Christian world from the invading Arab/Islamic Jihadists whose goal was to enslave the free world in the name of their deities. The Crusades were defensive wars fought to keep the Islamic marauders out of Europe. Africa was not so lucky as it remains colonized by Islam to this day. 🤔

3. It's legacy of lobbying for war against other countries is a whole nother issue altogether though. We would need a different thread for that issue. 🤔

Be it offense or defense...did they not shed blood? You cannot rewrite history. The Crusaders were also used to overthrow Kings that did not follow the direction of the Church by labelling them heretics. Go and do your research. ...against CHRISTIAN KINGS

I actually love watching all those historically accurate medieval shows on NetFlix, so I have learned alot. If you do not know about this topic, please do not argue with me.

Kobojunkie:
Small correction. The Crusades were fought entirely to protect the Christian world from the invading Arab/Islamic Jihadists whose goal was to enslave the free world in the name of their deities. The Crusades were defensive wars fought to keep the Islamic marauders out of Europe. Africa was not so lucky as it remains colonized by Islam to this day. 🤔

3. It's legacy of lobbying for war against other countries is a whole nother issue altogether though. We would need a different thread for that issue. 🤔

Kobojunkie:
1. No one is saying that he is responsible for the deeds of his ancestors here. However, the current pope sits on a throne built on the deeds of his ancestors, and that includes the many lives that were lost during the crusades protecting nations against colonization by the Islamic overlords who were bent on dominating and enslaving all of the world at that time. 🤔

If the Pope claims the Catholic gods do not answer the prayers of leaders who wage wars, then what he is invariably stating is that the Popes who fought to keep the Catholic throne, which he has today, lied to the people who sacrificed their lives to keep Europe from Islam. If that is the case, shouldn't the current Pope admit this to all, and maybe also step down, since that would imply his empire, as it stands, was and still is built on lies and deceit? 🤔

2. What is instead crystal clear is that this Pope, like his many ancestors, is just another hypocrite in power. 🤔

Yes, he should go back to 432 the year or maybe 666 and right the wrongs, ALL OF THEM. That will make saint nobody happy.

The leader of a global religious group that has been known for centuries looked back into the history of his religion and openly admitted that there is nothing good in war but someone who knows nothing claims there are benefits.
Oya list the benefits he is jumping from pillar to post claiming it's for the benefit of people who doesn't believe in war!
Abeg Bye bye!🤣

QuinQQ:
You were asked a question at the end of my narrative. Doesn't have to be JW, you can substitute any group u wish. Just focus on answering that question. Answering it, you'll mysteriously receive a revelation. Revelation of BENEFITS of WAR! Bye bye

toprealman:
✓ Yes, he should go back to 432 the year or maybe 666 and right the wrongs, ALL OF THEM. That will make saint nobody happy.

That would be utterly stewpid of him. He can never be a saint in an office that he supposes is rooted on blood and lies. What is should do instead is do away with the ridiculous virtue signalling, altogether. 🥱🥱🥱

The popes are no longer elected as political leaders and so he should learn to shut the f-up on political matters.🥱🥱🥱

MasterTeeUSA:
Be it offense or defense...did they not shed blood? You cannot rewrite history. The Crusaders were also used to overthrow Kings that did not follow the direction of the Church by labelling them heretics. Go and do your research. ...against CHRISTIAN KINGS

I actually love watching all those historically accurate medieval shows on NetFlix, so I have learned alot. If you do not know about this topic, please do not argue with me.

The Crusade Wars refer specifically to the wwrs fought against colonialism by the Catholic church. Go read up your history. 🥱🥱

MaxInDHouse:
The leader of a global religious group that has been known for centuries looked back into the history of his religion and openly admitted that there is nothing good in war but someone who knows nothing claims there are benefits.
Oya list the benefits he is jumping from pillar to post claiming it's for the benefit of people who doesn't believe in war!
Abeg Bye bye!🤣

Sooo Iran has said existence of Israel is an abomination. Iran is on a race to develop a weapon that will annihilate Israel.
Please advice, what does Israel do?

"You are sitting on the countless lives that were lost during the crusades protecting nations against colonization by the Islamic overlords who were bent on dominating and enslaving the entire world"

"How do you secure a safe, fair, just, equitable, progressive, secure, and corruption-free enclave amidst people intent on terminating your existence?"

QuinQQ:
Sooo Iran has said existence of Israel is an abomination. Iran is on a race to develop a weapon that will annihilate Israel. Please advice, what does Israel do?

If you want to change the topic you will humbly ask for understanding not just cutting in without thinking straight.
Would you like to know what Jesus said on that note?

MaxInDHouse:
If you want to change the topic you will humbly ask for understanding not just cutting in without thinking straight.
Would you like to know what Jesus said on that note?

You asked for the BENEFITS OF WAR (in capitals).
You've been given the benefits of war from all sorts of different angles, yet you keep repeating the same question.

BTW you missed these parts of the post:

"You are sitting on the countless lives that were lost during the crusades protecting nations against colonization by Islamic overlords who were bent on dominating and Islamizing the entire world"

"How do you secure a safe, fair, just, equitable, progressive, secure, and corruption-free enclave amidst people intent on terminating your existence?"

It's somehow funny that you keep on changing the subject.
You are asking for the benefit of WAR from people who don't believe in WAR when the Catholic Pope whose people believe in WAR told you it doesn't bring any benefit.
OK you decided to change the topic by asking me what should Israel do when Iran wants to fight them and i asked you if you will welcome what the world's most wonderful counselor said on the matter.
Now you want to change the subject again.
Abeg which one you dey gangan?🤔

QuinQ:
"How do you secure a safe, fair, just, equitable, progressive, secure, and corruption-free enclave amidst people intent on terminating your existence?"

.

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MaxInDHouse:
It's somehow funny that you keep on changing the subject.
You are asking for the benefit of WAR from people who don't believe in WAR when the Catholic Pope whose people believe in WAR told you it doesn't bring any benefit.
OK you decided to change the topic by asking me what should Israel do when Iran wants to fight them and i asked you if you will welcome what the world's most wonderful counselor said on the matter.
Now you want to change the subject again.
Abeg which one you dey gangan?🤔

I think you're becoming a bit confused. YOU are the one asking the BENEFITS OF WAR (you put it in capitals).

Now instead of stating whatever your reply is (I know you have no reasonable reply), you are engaging in diversionary subtafuge of "changing the subject". Never mind about who is or is not changing subjects, just go ahead and state your nonexistent reply

The fact remains that most people just want to be identified with Jesus but deep down their hearts Jesus doesn't worth being their leader. Matthew 15:7-8

MaxInDHouse:
The fact remains that most people just want to be identified with Jesus but deep down their hearts Jesus doesn't worth being their leader. Matthew 15:7-8

We,are NOT discussing Jesus. We are discussing the BENEFITS OF WAR. You are the one who asked what they are in capitals. You are also the one who said there are none - without mentioning Jesus

QuinQ:
Nonexistent reply

If you already think there is nothing good in what Jesus has to say on the subject why did you quote me in the first place?
You've always said evil things about me for sticking to whatever Jesus taught and i'm ok with that after all Jesus said you people will do exactly what people like you did to him to his disciples. Matthew 10:24-25
What really baffles me is that it's a Pope whose religion has been known for wars in the past that outrightly condemned war yet you want to accuse me for holding onto that opinion!🤔