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Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by RichBoy247: 8:49pm On Mar 30
Bentacur007:
APC are now confused they want to know ADC plans
Please don’t tell them
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This one will cry again as he did in 2015, 2019 and 2023
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by brown3: 8:51pm On Mar 30
QuinQQ:
They're wasting their time though. No president can have 32 govs in this CORRUPT country and lose. It's simply IMPOSSIBLE!
e go clear for una eyez, that rigging una dey hope for go fail una. Go and mark it
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by alobright17(m): 8:52pm On Mar 30
ottersberger:
Goodluck Jonathan lost the 2015 vote count. He had Africa's biggest political party, the PDP, the army, the police, the DSS, the treasury, and even the prison warders and their prisoners as state power. However, he didn't leave because he is a gentleman; he left quietly due to the overwhelming number of coercive instruments his opponents had assembled and were willing to use to achieve their goal.

Never assume you have all the cards until your opponent has shown their hand.
Goodluck is a baby politician compared to Tinubu, comparing him to Jagaban shows you’re just typing to make yourself happy.

Goodluck losing election to Jagaban’s APC did not teach you anything, and again he did not lose the election just only because of APC but because he lose part of the PDP strong men like Obasanjo and his crew that disagreed with Goodluck then .


So he was very weak before that election in this case Tinubu is stronger and better politician than even obasanjo. So try to understand the type of politician we’re talking about here before bringing that weak Goodluck.
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by ChiefOloye(m): 8:57pm On Mar 30
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AMINDA:
APC had 21 governors in 2023 but Tinubu only won 12 states. Of those twelve, only 6 were APC-governed states. Why didn't all 21 governors deliver their states? Even a combination of Sanwo-olu, Gbajabiamila, Obasa, Fashola, Ambode and Tinubu himself failed to deliver Lagos. Can you tell us why?
In whatever you do, don’t completely take Obidients seriously; you have better sense than most of them. Be that as it may, don’t be too confident when comparing Tinubu’s 2023 to his 2027. He was sabotaged on many fronts in 2023—he knows this—and he was not in control of the security apparatus. The APC knows that if they leave the election, they won’t win, so they can’t afford to. Tinubu will win in 2027, and nothing will happen.
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by QuinQQ: 8:59pm On Mar 30
Bahamas95:
Will my state governor who has defected to APC place a gun on my head on election day and force me to vote for Tinubu?
No, but he can give the people writing down the results big money to write anything he wants!
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by QuinQQ: 9:01pm On Mar 30
Kingosytex:
I hate to admit this, but it's a fact.
Unless death or the 'Maduro style' grin no one is capable of defeating Tinubu.

He schemed his way to power when he had no power of incumbency, expecting him to lose now is laughable grin

If I were him, I would leave a level playing ground, I will conduct the freest and fairest election ever in Nigeria.

You know the kind of election that would make the losers look stupid; the kind of election that would even make the losers lose interest in heading to court because the loss will be so glaring.
One person that completely gets it
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by Stanna2025: 9:04pm On Mar 30
It's impossible becomes you think man is God. Unfortunately 32 govs plus all there LGA chairmen put together is not upto 10,000 persons vs millions of poor Nigerians languishing in abject poverty caused by the ineptitude Bat regime. Tinubu is gone even if Lucifer supports him he will fail
QuinQQ:
They're wasting their time though. No president can have 32 govs in this CORRUPT country and lose. It's simply IMPOSSIBLE!
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by QuinQQ: 9:04pm On Mar 30
Mrexcell:
How can just 32 people defeat over 200m nigerians?
Very easily. They have public money to pay vote counters to write whatever they want as the result
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by QuinQQ: 9:10pm On Mar 30
sweerychick:
can you just listen to yourselfhuh So Tinubu have to wait to be president for him to abuse power, intimidate people, buy INEC, buy all our security institutions to ensure that he's popular to win 2027 elections abi? Even with his horrible scorecard? Did Buhari wait to be the president in 2015 before defeating an incumbent tongue
Jonathan was an aberration - still, he could have easily "won". But he was scared of coup and also because he was much less corrupt than Jagaban
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by alobright17(m): 9:15pm On Mar 30
ottersberger:
Goodluck Jonathan lost the 2015 vote count. He had Africa's biggest political party, the PDP, the army, the police, the DSS, the treasury, and even the prison warders and their prisoners as state power. However, he didn't leave because he is a gentleman; he left quietly due to the overwhelming number of coercive instruments his opponents had assembled and were willing to use to achieve their goal.

Never assume you have all the cards until your opponent has shown their hand.
Let me open up your eyes clearly to understand where Goodluck lost the battle .

2013 it all started with the national convention the disagreement generated massive defection from PDP to APC in 2015, 11 senators 37 house members, G7 governors all defected to APC


Atiku ,Amechi , Kwankwaso , Adamu muazu, murtala nyakor, Sarki, Lamido , wamako e.t.c all left for APC.

Remember that OBJ tore his party card openly and many big fishes left PDP few months to election.

My bro, how do you expected Goodluck to win in that election be sincere .
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by QuinQQ:
Stanna2025:
It's impossible becomes you think man is God. Unfortunately 32 govs plus all there LGA chairmen put together is not upto 10,000 persons vs millions of poor Nigerians languishing in abject poverty caused by the ineptitude Bat regime. Tinubu is gone even if Lucifer supports him he will fail
How do you think some parties get 99% of the votes in certain precincts? Wike is ONE person but he alone chose who'd be governor and the result of the presidential vote

one4GOD:
Ie go shock you
It only seems possible to you because you don't think of the processes that have to happen for that to happen - from the wards to counting the votes, to colating the results, to reporting the votes, all the way to announcing the results, Nigerians will be totally incorruptible and honest no matter the amount of money offered them!

Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by OAFMods: 9:18pm On Mar 30
Ans how many state did his rivals win.

You are quick to should he won only 12 states so tell us which of his rival won more than 12 states. Use you head if you have any on your shoulder.
AMINDA:
APC had 21 governors in 2023 but Tinubu only won 12 states. Of those twelve, only 6 were APC-governed states. Why didn't all 21 governors deliver their states? Even a combination of Sanwo-olu, Gbajabiamila, Obasa, Fashola, Ambode and Tinubu himself failed to deliver Lagos. Can you tell us why?
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by OAFMods: 9:20pm On Mar 30
Was that what happened with buhari harassing him n preventing his victory ? Same glory liveth today before your very eye.

AMINDA:
In other words, apart from abusing power by using INEC, Supreme Court, Police, Army to rig the election, he will have no pathway to victory. Thanks for letting us know but it will be resisted. Be there!
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by Krankhead: 9:37pm On Mar 30
The results of the 2027 election will be announced state by states. Tinubu will win all the 32 states he has governors
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by ozo13(m): 9:45pm On Mar 30
AMINDA:
APC had 21 governors in 2023 but Tinubu only won 12 states. Of those twelve, only 6 were APC-governed states. Why didn't all 21 governors deliver their states? Even a combination of Sanwo-olu, Gbajabiamila, Obasa, Fashola, Ambode and Tinubu himself failed to deliver Lagos. Can you tell us why?
let them finish convention and then choose a president candidate na there game go start.may God Almighty keep us safe.
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by one4GOD(f): 9:51pm On Mar 30
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QuinQQ:
They're wasting their time though. No president can have 32 govs in this CORRUPT country and lose. It's simply IMPOSSIBLE!
e go shock you
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by Ehisjango1: 9:56pm On Mar 30
Exercise in futility! Whether Kwakwanso-Obi or Obi-Kwakwanso or Atiku-Obi or Obi-Atiku, they will all lule in March 2027 election. Only God (ill-health or not being alive) can make BAT not to be re-elected, NOT ATIKU, OBI or KWAKWANSO. Tinubu is a political warrior and strategist! Bookmark this comment.
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by dami2boi(m): 10:01pm On Mar 30
Rabiu, whatever floats your boat
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by Eriokanmi: 10:04pm On Mar 30
Gotocourt:
eriokanmi, wa ya say. e don sub
You guessed right.
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by Allwell96: 10:19pm On Mar 30
Tinubu won from outside, now he's inside, it's going to be times 2 or more of the previous votes he got. Tinubu till 2031.
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by georgeakins: 10:33pm On Mar 30
etokhana:
Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC




Source
Atiku's time has passed.
2023 was the year he should won, but was too dumb to take advantage of the situation
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by killsmith(f): 10:36pm On Mar 30
franchasng:
The clouds are gradually gathering and it will definitely rain cat and dogs.


Tinubu that ought to be serving jail term was honored with a Presidential seat and he failed to use it to make a name for himself by being a sincere, kind, empathetic, unifying leader but he chose to be a divisive and tribalistic leader that just want only his region and tribesmen to remember him for shortchanging the rest of Nigerians for them, God forbid evil!!! angry
Unbelievable. You have an opportunity to write your name in gold, you decided to turn it all to a heist and now you want to fight everyone.
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by Otamendi99(m): 10:47pm On Mar 30
Bahamas95:
Will my state governor who has defected to APC place a gun on my head on election day and force me to vote for Tinubu?
No. But he got aides and families that depend on him. His political survival will keep their jobs. So they will follow up and vote Tinubu, same as their grassroot followers that eat from them.
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by NATIONALPASTOR: 10:57pm On Mar 30
Freshtruth:
G
Atiku is stepping down

Is Ameachi and obi battle
Amaechi doesn't have anybody in the south.

. He's not a contender to Obi
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by ottersberger(m): 11:45pm On Mar 30
alobright17:
Goodluck is a baby politician compared to Tinubu, comparing him to Jagaban shows you’re just typing to make yourself happy.

Goodluck losing election to Jagaban’s APC did not teach you anything, and again he did not lose the election just only because of APC but because he lose part of the PDP strong men like Obasanjo and his crew that disagreed with Goodluck then .


So he was very weak before that election in this case Tinubu is stronger and better politician than even obasanjo. So try to understand the type of politician we’re talking about here before bringing that weak Goodluck.
The issue with many of you is not that you don’t read, but that you don’t fully grasp what you read. Therefore, take a moment to go back and read my previous statement again, this time carefully and with attention.

My argument is not centered on whether Dr. Jonathan lost the election but on how he chose to leave office. I find it difficult to believe that any Black leader, particularly a Nigerian, would step down so quietly from the presidency simply because they were declared to have lost.

Consider this: do you honestly think Ahmed Tinubu would calmly return to Bourdillon if, however unlikely, INEC were to declare him the loser?. My view is that Goodluck Jonathan conceded because his opponents were prepared for confrontation, and that possibility was very real. They could have mobilized their already assembled supporters, what many now refer to as bandits, and elements within the northern military to create unrest in the north and make the country ungovernable. Intelligence reports at the time suggested as much to President Jonathan.

The point is that they were prepared, and circumstances worked in their favor. So next time, before quoting me and resorting to uncouth language, make sure you understand the argument. And if you still don’t, it’s better to leave it alone. I don’t intend to keep restating something that is, in my view, quite straightforward.

Critically examined, your understanding of what actually led to the defeat of the PDP in 2015 is mostly flawed. Eye-opener.
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by alobright17(m): 12:44am On Mar 31
ottersberger:
The issue with many of you is not that you don’t read, but that you don’t fully grasp what you read. Therefore, take a moment to go back and read my previous statement again, this time carefully and with attention.

My argument is not centered on whether Dr. Jonathan lost the election but on how he chose to leave office. I find it difficult to believe that any Black leader, particularly a Nigerian, would step down so quietly from the presidency simply because they were declared to have lost.

Consider this: do you honestly think Ahmed Tinubu would calmly return to Bourdillon if, however unlikely, INEC were to declare him the loser?. My view is that Goodluck Jonathan conceded because his opponents were prepared for confrontation, and that possibility was very real. They could have mobilized their already assembled supporters, what many now refer to as bandits, and elements within the northern military to create unrest in the north and make the country ungovernable. Intelligence reports at the time suggested as much to President Jonathan.

The point is that they were prepared, and circumstances worked in their favor. So next time, before quoting me and resorting to uncouth language, make sure you understand the argument. And if you still don’t, it’s better to leave it alone. I don’t intend to keep restating something that is, in my view, quite straightforward.

Critically examined, your understanding of what actually led to the defeat of the PDP in 2015 is mostly flawed. Eye-opener.
My friend I’m telling you that what hit PDP in that election no incumbency or controlling of those head of services can save him then unlike now that everything is intact intact 32 governors are with him but then they reduced .

If you’re reading with understanding you’ll get to know that I’m telling you why he lost despite having power of incumbency and control .

So the two scenario never tally at all they’re millions of miles away .
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by Hndrrxxx(m): 1:46am On Mar 31
AMINDA:
While battle-tested collusus are defecting to the ADC in the North, APC is relying on Obi Cubana and Cubana Chiefpriest to deliver Tinubu in the South using money and bags of rice. Lessons will be learnt!
colossus
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by Shimbo96(m): 4:34am On Mar 31
AMINDA:
APC had 21 governors in 2023 but Tinubu only won 12 states. Of those twelve, only 6 were APC-governed states. Why didn't all 21 governors deliver their states? Even a combination of Sanwo-olu, Gbajabiamila, Obasa, Fashola, Ambode and Tinubu himself failed to deliver Lagos. Can you tell us why?
Tinubu was just a contestant then but he is the President now so stop dreaming.
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by Vondoola: 5:02am On Mar 31
For me, Atiku just has to step down for an Obi/Kwankwanso collabo. He should play an elder stateman's role and mobilize support for this duo. If according to Obi going for only one term to to complete the South zoning, then, he (Atiku) can come out to challenge Kwankwanso for the ticket thereafter when it is the turn of the North. It is as simple as that.
sleek214:
Step down for who? Seems you guys don't learn. You don't play politics with emotions. Only ticket that can stand a chance with Tinubu is Atiku Obi, any other tickets is an effort in futility
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by Freshtruth(m): 5:10am On Mar 31
NATIONALPASTOR:
Amaechi doesn't have anybody in the south.

. He's not a contender to Obi
someone that came out second to only tinibu defeat vp osibanjo who came out third in the last apc primaries u think say primaries na masses they vote? Na delegates they vote
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by Giddyvocals(m): 7:58am On Mar 31
You might likely eat your words
Re: Atiku Reacts To Kwankwaso's Defection To ADC by Giddyvocals(m): 7:59am On Mar 31
brown3:
e go clear for una eyez, that rigging una dey hope for go fail una. Go and mark it
.
You might likely eat your words
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