₦airaland Forum

nairalanda1:
1. Are you guys ready to pay the kind of taxes, school fees, vote for corrupt free governments, etc...to make Nigeria a moon going nation?
2.See as you dey blame religion. Sometimes na country's priorites that governs these things. If any of the muslim or christain countries in Africa attempted this, they would be so broke in minutes, plus both of you will start shouting that 'why shouldun't government spend money on poor people.?

India sent a probe to the planet Mars. Most Indian commentators online were blasting their government for ignoring poverty in their country. Even the USA...at the time of their first moon landing , some americans were blasting their government for spending billions on space, not on dealing with domestic poverty

3. Many of you guys support the kind of economy that prevents Nigeria from going to space. You want government to share oil money to you, and your government obliges. You don't want government to support industrial development, and you don't want government to remove subsides on electricity so that the power sector can grow well well

Better stop blaming other things, and blame yourselves, Muslem and chreistian , tradtional religion and atheist fanatics Nigerians.

I would be glad to know how many times you as an individual has collected this money you mentioned which is being shared by the Nigeria government. Nigeria government does not even help their poor citizen when compared to the US government. Programs like food stamps, medicaid, section 6 housing , student grants etc are all available in the US for qualifying individuals.. The fundamental problem of Nigeria is corruption. Not subsidy and not about spending on the poor. A lot of resources are not used for what they were budgeted for. Elected officials lack accountability, they misuse public fund without fear of consequences.

nairalanda1:
God also gave us brains to utilize to solve problems and to develop our natural resources, but many of us religious people no dey see that.

Oddly enough, many irreligious NIgerians also don't see that

Na for government to sell oil and share money, na the way we dey think.

I couldn't agree more with the points made above. You are right.
My stand still maintains that being more genuinely spiritual than canal is still ok.

RollinTNDA:
Shouting like animals and commanding God like He is a small boy is not seeking the face of God

He just shouting like a spoilt kid shouting to his parents to buy him chocolate

That is not seeking the face of God.

Jerry doesn't even preach gospel
Na so so fire, I receive, amen amen.

God gave you brain use it for once .

Did the inventors of technology that created the phone you are using create it by kabooshing and making animal noises .. No

Jerry just dey use gullible African like you

Okay I agree with you but initially you made it seem as though the place of genuine prayer to the creator is irrelevant.

Man without connection to his spiritual source is doomed.

oweniwe:
The technology is already available

But if the sequence is reversed... E.g. you want to take off from space or moon back to earth, how will it be done using jet engines?

Moon doesn't have atmosphere and other planets, we don't know how the atmosphere is real time.

So rocket technology is still it.

The accident you are concerned about can still happen mid air

If the moon or space is not atmospheric, that mean is more denser than earth which has gravity, to me that's easier to operate in. Or in other tot, a special carier can be sent to space to deliver engines to propel the object back home.

nairalanda1:
1. Are you guys ready to pay the kind of taxes, school fees, vote for corrupt free governments, etc...to make Nigeria a moon going nation?
2.See as you dey blame religion. Sometimes na country's priorites that governs these things. If any of the muslim or christain countries in Africa attempted this, they would be so broke in minutes, plus both of you will start shouting that 'why shouldun't government spend money on poor people.?

India sent a probe to the planet Mars. Most Indian commentators online were blasting their government for ignoring poverty in their country. Even the USA...at the time of their first moon landing , some americans were blasting their government for spending billions on space, not on dealing with domestic poverty

3. Many of you guys support the kind of economy that prevents Nigeria from going to space. You want government to share oil money to you, and your government obliges. You don't want government to support industrial development, and you don't want government to remove subsides on electricity so that the power sector can grow well well

Better stop blaming other things, and blame yourselves, Muslem and chreistian , tradtional religion and atheist fanatics Nigerians.

The tax mantra guru on the beat again.

Oga, let the poor breathe. We are not a rich nation by any standard.

Preach against endemic corruption in the land, rather than putting destructive burdens on the poor men of the land.

Akalia:
Okay I agree with you but initially you made it seem as though the place of genuine prayer to the creator is irrelevant.

Man without connection to his spiritual source is doomed.

Faith + Work = Creation

We dwell on faith so much without action
Oyinbo balance their faith with action that's why they go far technological discoveries and medicine that saved you and me till this day...

Relying on faith alone is what Nigerians specialize in and what scammers like Jerry eze are exploiting.

GEAVEN HELPS THOSE YOU HELP THEMSELVES. TJOSE WHO TAKE ACTION

NOT TO BE SHOUTING AMEN LIKE SHEEP I RECEIVE . HOW U GO RECEIEVE WETIN U NO WORK FOR.

RollinTNDA:
Faith + Work = Creation

We dwell on faith so much without action
Oyinbo balance their faith with action that's why they go far technological discoveries and medicine that saved you and me till this day...

Relying on faith alone is what Nigerians specialize in and what scammers like Jerry eze are exploiting.

GEAVEN HELPS THOSE YOU HELP THEMSELVES. TJOSE WHO TAKE ACTION

NOT TO BE SHOUTING AMEN LIKE SHEEP I RECEIVE . HOW U GO RECEIEVE WETIN U NO WORK FOR.

Raphwell:
Can't Africa even try anything ? Are we destined to remain spectators ?

Lead na...

When you look at the enormous streak of flames coming out of that massive, massive rocket and realise 4 people are seated and strapped in near the very top, their lives hanging in the hands of a launch computer you just marvel. Anything goes wrong and you bury a ceremonial empty coffin. Now that takes guts.

Raphwell:
Can't Africa even try anything ? Are we destined to remain spectators ?

We need the kind of cultural revolution that happened in China. Rid ourselves feudalism first. Without a heart for enterprise and aspiration we remain spectators.

America is a country of great rules, law and order. But it is also a great country of bound breakers. Those willing to risk it all. To climb Mount Everest, 'just because it is there'.

Raphwell:
Can't Africa even try anything ? Are we destined to remain spectators ?

You. Wan try make dem call u terrorist

From the comments I've seen so far ,Many of us here don't know the meaning of NASA ....
Because if they do ? Their comments could be a positive one not a fuçkery episode

dequir:
The tax mantra guru on the beat again.

Oga, let the poor breathe. We are not a rich nation by any standard.

Preach against endemic corruption in the land, rather than putting destructive burdens on the poor men of the land.

I speak against corruption and also speak on the need for an effective tax system

In fact, if more NIgerians paid tax, they would be incentivised to deal with the corrupt leaders if they slip up.

Better realize that supporting an effective tax regime does not mean supporting corruption or inefficency or stealing.

Akalia:
Seeking the face of GOD is ultimate. The current civilization of man with all the cutting edge technology will pass away someday but he who is saved for eternity will not perish.
Don't mock people who are more interested in spirituality than the passing reality of this dying world.

Are we really sure the focus of these prayers is what you’re saying? Or are they actually centered on gaining the very things of this same fading world you speak about? When people pray for favor, isn’t it usually for success in jobs, marriages, businesses, and opportunities—all within this passing world?

At the same time, while they pray, shouldn’t they also be motivated to work hard, stay disciplined with their finances and businesses, act justly and honestly in their financial dealings and everyday relationships, and remain innovative in their thinking—consistently creating real value?

Even the Bible urges that when you pray, you should avoid vain repetition—it creates the impression that God neither hears nor listens. Yet, these same people go on to steal, cheat, and engage in vicious activities, only to return the next morning with even more intense prayers, driven more by routine, appearance, or religious habit than by genuine transformation.

sonnie10:
I would be glad to know how many times you as an individual has collected this money you mentioned which is being shared by the Nigeria government.

Your school fees (if you went to a government school), your healthcare (if you go to a government hospital), even electricity and also things like rail transport are highly subsidised.

Nigeria government does not even help their poor citizen when compared to the US government. Programs like food stamps, medicaid, section 6 housing , student grants etc are all available in the US for qualifying individuals..

USA also charges each and every one of its citizens tax. Heavy tax.

It is only just now in NIgeria that we have started the practice of individual filing of tax returns. IN the USA....it is a given. And if you do not pay your tax you will go to jail. Or get fined heavily or both.

That is how they are able to afford all those things for the poor people.

USA Is also a diversified industrial exporting economy. Nigeria? Even if we fought corruption and so forth, to provide what the US provides on top of our very low income from oil would force the government into taking massive and I mean MASSIVE...loans.

You go complain tire.

The fundamental problem of Nigeria is corruption.

You people should stop this idiotic assumption that supporting better taxation means someone supports corruptuion. It's kind of immautre really.

Corruption is the main reason why I don't support tinubu and the oppositon. IT Is also why I support every Nigerian paying a tax ...because if everyone pays tax, they would be incentivised to do something if there is no change.

Ya think that revolutions happen like that?

Most of our income comes from oil. 1.7m bpd. Even 4m is not enough for us. That is why i shout on this site that we should diversify our economy, and industrialize our economy among other things.

Not subsidy and not about spending on the poor. A lot of resources are not used for what they were budgeted for. Elected officials lack accountability, they misuse public fund without fear of consequences.

The problem is our economy is dependent on oil...not on using our resources to make exportable goods, and a very poor tax system...which is why there isn't enough money for subsides.

Also, subsides that work are production subsides. Consumption subsidies are not only inefficent, they are very prone to corruption. Yes, it is the truth...the consumption subsides we do here are one of the reasons why corruption is high.

SeizeTheMemes:
Bro what is up with you and subsidy removal? Honest to god you make it seem like if we removed all subsidies Nigeria would be heaven on earth.

LOL...it's like you guys only see what you want to see

Subsidy removal on power and petrol would mean more investment would flow into both sectors...which would fuel their growth, and by extension...an industrialized exporting NIgeria...which exports manufactured goods and services, and then prosperity

No nation , no strong nation grows by consumption subsides.

Read my posts, on this site, slowly.

The problem is that there is no plan towards industrialisation because why would the government build when they can just take from you? The only way to change this is to be aware that the government doesn't have our interests in mind and to make a collective action to change things ourselves.

Because people like you want government to share money, and yes, your government in turn shares money. Which even worsens corruption because he who is close to the sharing will steal

Also most of you do not want industrailzation...you want to go to university to get degree to work in airconditioned office. You refuse to pay your power bill...most of you, because poor light, and you advocate for consumption subsides on power, which prevents investment in electricity and thus industrializtion

You vote for people like tinubu , not a real productive leader. That is how you vote against your interest...you want your country to be like Saudi , not like China or germany.

10 days expedition round the moon, not to the moon

PotatoSalad:
Launch was a success.
Unfortunately, the average Nigerian cannot relate to this feat because they've been conditioned to survive instead of actually live.

it actually like three to four engine this first one from earth is the one with the only power to push them out of earth because of much gravity on earth,after they get to earth orbit this one will detach and after they enter into moon orbit the other will detach too these once has less power and speed because after earth gravity is not much again in some space area like moon, when coming back it another that will bring them, it the gravitational force on earth that requires them to use that one with massive fire rocket if not gravity will just be drawing them back

victorazyvictor:
Why can't these things be launched into space with maybe 3 detachable jet engine kind of to create balance and detach whenever and continue the journey with other sources rather than burning this much energy to lift and thrust this massive objects which is highly dangerous because it can burst into flames.

My thinking sha! What do I know, just an architect wey never get better construction job for long.

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if na face of God the white they seek all this while, you go see phone type this thing ? malaria self for don kill you all for your village

Akalia:
Seeking the face of GOD is ultimate. The current civilization of man with all the cutting edge technology will pass away someday but he who is saved for eternity will not perish.
Don't mock people who are more interested in spirituality than the passing reality of this dying world.

victorazyvictor:
Why can't these things be launched into space with maybe 3 detachable jet engine kind of to create balance and detach whenever and continue the journey with other sources rather than burning this much energy to lift and thrust this massive objects which is highly dangerous because it can burst into flames.

My thinking sha! What do I know, just an architect wey never get better construction job for long.

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jet engines can't produce that kinda thrust, the highest a jet engine can do is to reach the edge of space, to get to low earth orbit you need rocket engines, like the one you see for launch. To break away from Earth's gravity, you need about 6 million pounds of thurst of escape velocity

omoredia:
Adeboye could protests during GEJ time because GEJ was not a yoruba man. Thats how tribalistic these people can be.

You came to a NASA thread to post a false information about daddy Adeboye.

Later you will be fighting spiritual battle, I pity your children.

maasoap:
The problem is that many people were not aware of the scheduled launching until it was launched. I only came across it yesterday on reddit shortly before I went to bed. I was even surprised too

I am talking about people who were watching the moment live and still choosing to call it AI.

Let's reason this . Did the US really out a man in the moon in 1969? In 1964 the US President announced the US will put a man in the moon ( to show that the US was better that the Soviet Union (Russia) which had put a dog into orbit.) Starting from scratch .... with analog technology .... wayyyyyyyy slower and veryyyyyy limited compared to today's digital technology.....within just 5 years ....they flew three men to the moon. Now more than 50 years with digital technology....what can be done on an ordinary smartphone could not have been done by NASA"s analog back then..... we are seeing it as a feat to celebrate.....flying around the moon. You landed there 50 years ago and today can only hope to fly around the moon? Something is just not right with this picture. Where has man gone that 50 years later he doesn't have the ability to return?

As powerful as the Witches in Africa ‼️

I would have expected them to have arrived in the moon long ago 🌝

If it won’t land on the moon, no point celebrating. They will be back in ten to twelve days.

I’m surprised that the Thomases from the COVID-19 thread didn’t come to dispute this feat.

sweerychick:
jet engines can't produce that kinda thrust, the highest a jet engine can do is to reach the edge of space, to get to low earth orbit you need rocket engines, like the one you see for launch. To break away from Earth's gravity, you need about 6 million pounds of thurst of escape velocity

Wow! Thanks.
I like your response.

....but, is it not supposed be the higher you go, the lighter it come? (Physics: Upthrust principle)

Raphwell:
Can't Africa even try anything ? Are we destined to remain spectators ?

Apart from having bad leaders

We simply don't have the mental capacity
It's not that north Korea or Iran has better leaders but mentally they can pull their weight