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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Allthelight(m):
To those propagandist out there it is impossible for u.s to cover up anything due to the free press in the United States... I have said this before
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Blakjewelry(m): 7:13am On Apr 05
tonididdy:
Unku agendus

Did America cry to you that their machines are more important than a single American life?
Machines that will be rebuilt a 100x over using Iranian oil cool
It is not about lives it is about doctrine and psychological warfare.

If the pilot was captured it will give Iran bragging right and leverage to negotiate not to talk of the political fallout in the US.

The rescue didn't happen in the heart of Iran remember the aircraft was operating in the border region close to Iraq.

Iran is a big place almost twice the size of Nigeria of Nigeria and roughly half the size in population so all the pilot need to do is cross the border to friendly border which is not entirely friendly as if the local s that like the US gets him he is also in trouble.

The main trouble for the US rescue operation is the locals who wants to collect bounty rather than the main Iranian army.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Sportsweb: 7:20am On Apr 05
If it was Iranian pilot that was shot down in Israel or USA, Iran will abandon him saying he is a maytr that wants to die for all@h
WriterrNg:


What a hell of a mess.

All these heavy losses so they can have something to brag about for the next 2 decades.

"We rescued 2 pilots but lost 5 aircrafts with dozens of our troops severely injured".

Dombb.fokkss.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Sportsweb: 7:22am On Apr 05
CNN, WSJ and others are ever ready to embarrass Trump Administration. I guess if it was a Democrat president, Fox News and others will be on full hating mode


Allthelight:
To does propagandist out there it is impossible for u.s to cover up anything due to the free press in the United States... I have said this before
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 7:27am On Apr 05
emmaodet:
But what is the point of losing more planes and soldiers in the process of rescuing 1.
It doesn't make sense
They have built this myth of invisibility around their military and more especially, around their pilots. So capturing their soldiers easily breaks that myth. It's the same reason they never admit Iran shot down their aircrafts.

It's the same thing with Israel and even Ukraine at the beginning of the war. One of the most effective tactics Hezbollah uses to increase Israeli casualties is to ambush an Israeli unit, and then lay another ambush for the Israeli units that attempt to rescue them. They then lay a third ambush for the rescuers that come to rescue the rescuers.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Allthelight(m): 7:29am On Apr 05
Sportsweb:
CNN, WSJ and others are ever ready to embarrass Trump Administration. I guess if it was a Democrat president, Fox News and others will be on full hating mode
sure
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Blakjewelry(m): 7:31am On Apr 05
seunny4lif:
How they land that massive objects inside Iran, its pure madness.
Losing 2 transport aircrafts to get their own men is massive respect
I give them that one
It surprises you because you are not following the war with open heart.

Did you study the region where the attack happened and how it happened.

The aircraft went down around the Iranian border with Iraq so the rescue happened within not forgetting the airman must have try to move away from hostile environment toward friendly side.

Secondly Iran is currently not using active radar system that is why the aircrafts don't see the missile coming but the downside is that you can't protect your entire airspace. Protecting the entire airspace is not necessary is Iran large stretch of deserts and mountain.

Borders are usually empty so what is the big deal about the rescue and it doesn't even make sense using c-130 for a rescue of one person so now I am thinking about it, I will have to research more the rescue operation.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 7:38am On Apr 05
tonididdy:
It's like when you buy your wicked landlords house and rub it in his face

Irans air, land and oil is gone! That's fact....

What America just did is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Do you have an F_idea the land mass of Iran?
You gotta give kudos too to American military programme too...the ability of that pilot to hide for hours....hours...hours in a hostile environment proves two things...
Iran is a country of dumb people and America is riding on that
Was child's play, you'll be hearing that from the naysayers. He went up a ridge , activated his emergency locator, and started intermittent communication with an encrypted radio.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Blakjewelry(m): 7:43am On Apr 05
WriterrNg:
⚡The New York Times reports that following the rescue of the F-15E weapons officer, the two transport aircraft (presumably C-130s) used to transport the personnel out of Iran "got stuck" after they landed in Iran.

It was reportedly decided to bring 3 new aircraft to carry out the extractions, and blow up the 2 which got stuck to prevent them from being captured by Iranian forces.
Something is not right, I have never seen c130 used for rescue operation.

Maybe except it was use for one thing and I have seen them use it before and that is air support. They fix something like the Vulcan gatling gun to the c-130 and use it for air support because of it loitering time. It can stay and engage the enemy for extended time not for the rescue operation itself.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 7:45am On Apr 05
I see the NVBs jubilating over the joke they call a rescue. See how quickly they went from "Iran isn't shooting down US aircraft" to "Iran is shooting down US aircraft but the US can rescue the downed crewmen" 🤡

These ones literally lost so many platforms and mounted casualties in helicopter shootdowns, just because they don't want Iran parading their soldier on tv. Your saving grace is that Iran didn't prepare for this. Shame!
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by amadivv: 7:45am On Apr 05
Pro-Iran gang still dey process shock 😂… dem don try every angle to discredit the American rescue_Pro-Iran analysts be like: ‘yes people were saved but what about the equipment?’ 😭… imagine valuing metal over human life. Shock don really rewire things.” . Last last, healing go reach everybody just stay strong and don't kill yourselves— even those wey dey cry online.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Blakjewelry(m): 7:47am On Apr 05
tonididdy:
America has successfully taken "so far" 2 countries oil in like 6months.
A feat your boy Putin has being attempting for 6yrs now!

Cuba is next....if your boy like make e export pillow and mattress go there go lay down ... The US will blow up his head!😂
Mention the 2 countries.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 7:48am On Apr 05
update on the rescue

first off, as i said yesterday, the colonel in charge of the capture operation should be dishonorably discharged

secondly, it is absolutely clear there was no defined protocol for rapid capturing of enemy personnel within iranian territory by the iranian military
this is bonkers
there must be immediate changes

third, there is no clarity on who conducted the capture op
it is confirmed that the basij paramilitary was heavily involved
and civilians joined in
but besides a handful of embedded irgc personnel, there is no word on the artesh
this again is bewildering
even if the irgc are justified in running the op because they've disproportionately borne the brunt of the war, they needed lots of personnel for the sweep

fourth, while the daring rescue op is a positive for the yanks
persia did take down or make them lose more manned aircraft from this op than any single operation throughout this war
helos, a-10, c-130

lastly, as displeased as i am about the successful rescue
i am unperturbed
they lost 6 air frames trying to rescue two personnel
in the imminent invasion, persia will capture them in their tens to hundreds to thousands depending on the size of the invasion force
there'd be no running away or hit and run

the one thing persia should watch out for going forward are raids

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by amadivv: 7:52am On Apr 05
No
shoodboi2:
I see the NVBs jubilating over the joke they call a rescue. See how quickly they went from "Iran isn't shooting down US aircraft" to "Iran is shooting down US aircraft but the US can rescue the downed crewmen" 🤡

These ones literally lost so many platforms and mounted casualties in helicopter shootdowns, just because they don't want Iran parading their soldier on tv. Your saving grace is that Iran didn't prepare for this. Shame!
.Bro wrote a full essay just to mourn equipment 😭… humans were rescued but na metal dey break your heart. Even scrapyard go appreciate you.last last you go dey alright
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 7:54am On Apr 05
Raynald:
Second crew man rescued
I have not commented here since this pilot incident started, now i will cause i was waiting to see the outcome
If you had doubt that American Is a superpower above superpowers,now the time to realize that you were just being deluded and sentimental
American military is far ahead of others
This rescue op just proved that a ground invasion of Iran has a probability of 90% success
The rugged terrain of iran is a weapon not only against invading forces but also against defending forces
This is a big disgrace to Iran
This why i will always choose USA,they will rather send 100 men to death than watch two of their men killed,thats true democracy.
Am not American but i feel so proud as one right now
Oh my dear Nigeria, just when will we reach such level
you did not comment when the plane was shot down
did not comment when they lost a-10 warthog
two helos, f-16
did not comment when the lost two more helos and a c-130s
now you're commenting because they claim they rescued the pilots with no fatalities
story!

and the 🤡 is now saying this rescue op proves the probability of success in a ground invasion is over 90%

you are so slow
🤣😂😀

how many fpv and shahed drones did iran launch at the pilot and rescuers
persia wanted them alive
it'll be different in an invasion

i hope this rescue emboldens them to invade
it will not be an in and out
they'll have to stay and their planes and bodies will litter persia
just like all their planes during this op

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Watcharena: 7:55am On Apr 05
USA:
President: BSc (Econs)
Vice Pres: BA (Pol Sci), JD
Speaker: BSc (Bus Admin), JD
Sec of State: BA (Pol Sci), JD

Iran:
President: Cardiac Surgery Specialist
Vice Pres: PhD (Electrical & Comms Engineering)
Speaker: PhD (Political Geography)
Foreign Min: PhD (Political Thought)



X- soldiers are attacking US from all angles
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 7:56am On Apr 05
amadivv:
No.Bro wrote a full essay just to mourn equipment 😭… humans were rescued but na metal dey break your heart. Even scrapyard go appreciate you.last last you go dey alright
"Mounted casualties in helicopter shootdowns" are equipment where you come from?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 8:00am On Apr 05
amadivv:
No.Bro wrote a full essay just to mourn equipment 😭… humans were rescued but na metal dey break your heart. Even scrapyard go appreciate you.last last you go dey alright
😂🤣😃

epstein 🤡 say na shock

it is disappointing not to capture both pilots
but those planes lost are platforms that will not participate in the war permanently

and as long as the war continues
and hopefully, there is a ground invasion
there'll be more opportunities to capture the orcs

we waited patiently for 32 days for a crash within persian territory
after almost a dozen different crashes outside persian territory
we can wait even longer for successful captures

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 8:05am On Apr 05
tonididdy:
America has successfully taken "so far" 2 countries oil in like 6months.
A feat your boy Putin has being attempting for 6yrs now!

Cuba is next....if your boy like make e export pillow and mattress go there go lay down ... The US will blow up his head!😂


What two countries? In your head right?

They've taken Venezuelan oil but still seizing Venezuelan oil tankers? How is that?

Thank God you've finally admitted that your gods are thieves and murderers.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 8:09am On Apr 05
tonididdy:
Unku agendus
How is this a win for you?


Dundee united.

You said I made it up and i sent you links to back it up.

Now you're calling it a win? As how? Brain dey pain you?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 8:12am On Apr 05
⚡"WE GOT HIM! My fellow Americans, over the past several hours, the United States Military pulled off one of the most daring Search and Rescue Operations in U.S. History."

President Trump announces an American service member has been rescued from Iran, says the operation was pulled off without any Americans killed or wounded.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 8:14am On Apr 05
Nothing concern USA with winning wars.

Their own na to look good for media, make their Hollywood movies dey sell dey go.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Nobody: 8:18am On Apr 05
shoodboi2:
I see the NVBs jubilating over the joke they call a rescue. See how quickly they went from "Iran isn't shooting down US aircraft" to "Iran is shooting down US aircraft but the US can rescue the downed crewmen" 🤡

These ones literally lost so many platforms and mounted casualties in helicopter shootdowns, just because they don't want Iran parading their soldier on tv. Your saving grace is that Iran didn't prepare for this. Shame!
Your joy was not even allowed to last 48 hours.
Omoh, the witches in your lineage are strong oo
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Nobody: 8:20am On Apr 05
Blakjewelry:
It surprises you because you are not following the war with open heart.

Did you study the region where the attack happened and how it happened.

The aircraft went down around the Iranian border with Iraq so the rescue happened within not forgetting the airman must have try to move away from hostile environment toward friendly side.

Secondly Iran is currently not using active radar system that is why the aircrafts don't see the missile coming but the downside is that you can't protect your entire airspace. Protecting the entire airspace is not necessary is Iran large stretch of deserts and mountain.

Borders are usually empty so what is the big deal about the rescue and it doesn't even make sense using c-130 for a rescue of one person so now I am thinking about it, I will have to research more the rescue operation.
Nothing about every single post you write on this thread says anything about neutrality. Cope with the pain while it lasts.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 8:21am On Apr 05
⚡Current known tally of losses from this rescue operation:

• 1x F-15E destroyed
• 2x HH-60 helicopters damaged
• 1x A-10 destroyed
• 2x C-130 destroyed
• 1-2x MQ-9s destroyed.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by amadivv: 8:28am On Apr 05
Scorpio99:
Your joy was not even allowed to last 48 hours.
Omoh, the witches in your lineage are strong oo
.Bro is still in shock and severe pain.😂😂😂😂😂.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 8:31am On Apr 05
Icktioaxen:
So sorry 😢 i feel your pain.

If it makes you feel any better, you can decide to not watch the movie about this rescue when the movie comes out, depriving Hollywood of about $6 to $10. 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭


Jokes on you.

US bases & military assets destroyed ✅

Now we wait for US corpses to follow.

I'm a patient man, i can wait.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 8:33am On Apr 05
Dem dey celebrate Russia equipment losses, e reach their turn dem wan gaslight us to believe say e no matter.

Who be mumu?

As US don lose more military equipments in 34 days than Russia wey dey fight for 4 years, e good for una eye?

Make una better start dey panic because if this war last another 6 months, US go dey beg Ukraine to borrow them equipment.

Iran dey burn through US weapons too fast. Not sustainable.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 8:33am On Apr 05
LordAdam16:
you did not comment when the plane was shot down
did not comment when they lost a-10 warthog
two helos, f-16
did not comment when the lost two more helos and a c-130s
now you're commenting because they claim they rescued the pilots with no fatalities
story!

and the 🤡 is now saying this rescue op proves the probability of success in a ground invasion is over 90%

you are so slow
🤣😂😀

how many fpv and shahed drones did iran launch at the pilot and rescuers
persia wanted them alive
it'll be different in an invasion

i hope this rescue emboldens them to invade
it will not be an in and out
they'll have to stay and their planes and bodies will litter persia
just like all their planes during this op

-Lord
The rescue op will embolden Trump to gamble a ground invasion.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 8:41am On Apr 05
for more color on rescue/capture op

while the yanks knew exactly where the pilot was, thanks to his gps beacon
the iranians were searching for the pilot

so while the iranians had to establish a large semi-circular cordon around the area and then manually comb every square inch while closing in on him
the yanks were planning the optimal way to get to the pilot behind enemy lines

last night under the cover of darkness, they bombed and fired munitions at a designated stretch of the cordon for a semi-safe flight path to get the rescue team in and out

i still think the colonel should be dismissed
i know he would have excuses like
the availability of a gps scrambler and a plethora of manpads would have made the capture op easier
that the region is remote so locating the pilot was several magnitudes harder and there's not a lot of resources to draw from
but failure, however understandable, should not be rewarded

-Lord
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