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Someone asked about Edo and Edo was mentioned also ..nobody was dragging Edo ...

aswani:
Benin people in an English language context, Edo people in a Benin language context.

That they are related to Esan is neither here nor there, there are other tribes in the state too like Afemai in the north.

We all know what the thread is about anyway, I just wish you people would leave Ivb'edo alone with this your Igbo Yoruba gbas gbos.

aswani:
Who are una?

Just wait a while until after the Primaries at ADC, you people will soon start abusing the same David Mark you are hailing. Nor bi di same tin una do to Abure afta una support am against Lamidi Apapa?

Lol. Do whatever you can do to ADC.. I don't give a hoot. One thing is certain which is that Yorubas have lost their currency for been fair.

esnbrutality:
After all the mudslinging, hatred, destruction, persecution etc etc etc, they still excel. The Lord Almightyi is truly great.

Imagine where they will be without a hideous Nigeria dragging them back at every turn..

math2001:
Ibo are not the 4th largest ethnicities . Kanuri are larger than ibo. That may be responsible for the crisis.

Stop thinking with your anus and face the damn topic

aswani:
This is fake because Ẹdo is not an ethnicity, it is a state in Nigeria, hopefully we get a mod to sangalo the thread away from our sight.

My good friend don vex .

Take heart, bros; make una still hustle harder. However, facts are stubborn. Imagine if the Igbo and Bini people disappeared from Lagos and the south-west region altogether?.

ariesbull:
Someone asked about Edo and Edo was mentioned also ..nobody was dragging Edo ...

No mind them. The mention of Igbo deflates their hard on.

ariesbull:
Igbo is ranked 4th among African ethnicities according to HDI & MPI

The Igbo (Nigeria) are placed 4th overall in the ranking of African ethnicities when combining Human Development Index (HDI) and Multidimensional Poverty Index (MPI)—making them the top-ranked ethnic group in Nigeria on this list.

Key data for Igbo (Nigeria):

Country: Nigeria

HDI (2023): 0.701

HDI Rank: 6

MPI (2025): 0.0266

MPI Rank: 3

Poverty Headcount: 6.2%

Deprivation Intensity: 42.7%

Composite Rank: 4.5 (4th overall)



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Top 10 (from the table)

1. Algerian Arab (Algeria)


2. Egyptian Arab (Egypt)


3. Amazigh (Morocco)


4. Igbo (Nigeria) 🇳🇬


5. Swazi (Eswatini)


6. Tswana (Botswana)


7. Kikuyu (Kenya)


8. Fang (Gabon)


9. Edo (Nigeria)


10. Akan (Ghana)




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How HDI is calculated

HDI = \sqrt[3]{I_{health} \cdot I_{education} \cdot I_{income}}

Health: Life expectancy

Education: Years of schooling

Income: GNI per capita



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How MPI is calculated

MPI = H \times A

H: Poverty headcount

A: Deprivation intensity



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Reference

Human Development Index (HDI): United Nations Development Programme (UNDP), Human Development Report 2023

Multidimensional Poverty Index (MPI): Oxford Poverty and Human Development Initiative (OPHI) & UNDP, Global MPI 2025

Source table: “Ranking of African Ethnicities by HDI & MPI (by Country) — Cosmopolitan Regions Excluded” (as shown in the provided image)

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You didn't put link and anybody can do what you or one of you did by creating a pictogram or diagram like that.

Simple search will show you that UNDP does not do ethnicities but nations' HDI.


This is what the situation is....

Based on the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) Human Development Reports released in 2023/2024 and 2025, it is not true that the UNDP officially categorized African ethnicities within the Human Development Index (HDI).

The UNDP HDI, including the 2023/2024 report ("Breaking the Gridlock" and the 2025 report, categorizes development levels by country (e.g., Seychelles, Mauritius, Nigeria) and by region (e.g., Sub-Saharan Africa, Arab States), not by ethnic groups within those countries.

Here are the key findings regarding the 2023–2025 HDI reports:
Methodology: The HDI measures progress based on three core dimensions: long and healthy life (life expectancy), knowledge (education), and a decent standard of living (GNI per capita). It does not collect or categorize data by ethnicity.
2023/2024 Report: The 2023/2024 Human Development Report (released March 2024) highlighted uneven recovery in human development across African nations, with high, medium, and low development categories applied to countries.
2025 Report: The 2025 Human Development Report (based on 2023 data) also categorized African nations by country-level HDI scores, listing Seychelles and Mauritius as "Very High" and various others in "High," "Medium," or "Low" categories.
Inequality Adjustment: While the UNDP calculates an "Inequality-adjusted HDI" (IHDI) to highlight disparities within countries, this adjustment focuses on income and education gaps, not ethnicity.

The reports consistently focus on national and sub-regional performance to guide policy, not on disaggregating data by African ethnicity.

What about Ghanaians and Ivoiriens? There are many countries in west Africa with higher HDI than Nigeria and the ethnic groups there should perform better than Nigerian average. Akan for instance will perform better than Yoruba. Then Boer in South Africa despite being white are an African ethnic group and the black groups in South Africa presently have the highest HDI on the continent. South Africa has universal healthcare and Nigeria does not. So how is it possible for a Nigerian group to beat any SA group in HDI?

People don't know what Ghana is. Ghana made ten billion dollars from Agric export last year and Ghana is about 30 million people. They still have other exports

lawani:
What about Ghanaians and Ivoiriens? There are many countries in west Africa with higher HDI than Nigeria and the ethnic groups there should perform better than Nigerian average. Akan for instance will perform better than Yoruba. Then Boer in South Africa despite being white are an African ethnic group and the black groups in South Africa presently have the highest HDI on the continent. South Africa has universal healthcare and Nigeria does not. So how is it possible for a Nigerian group to beat any SA group in HDI?

People don't know what Ghana is. Ghana made ten billion dollars from Agric export last year and Ghana is about 30 million people. They still have other exports

It is a fake HDI and that is why there is no link to it.
UNDP doesn't do ethnicities but nations' HDI.

ariesbull:
Igbo is ranked 4th among African ethnicities according to HDI & MPI

The Igbo (Nigeria) are placed 4th overall in the ranking of African ethnicities when combining Human Development Index (HDI) and Multidimensional Poverty Index (MPI)—making them the top-ranked ethnic group in Nigeria on this list.

Key data for Igbo (Nigeria):

Country: Nigeria

HDI (2023): 0.701

HDI Rank: 6

MPI (2025): 0.0266

MPI Rank: 3

Poverty Headcount: 6.2%

Deprivation Intensity: 42.7%

Composite Rank: 4.5 (4th overall)



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Top 10 (from the table)

1. Algerian Arab (Algeria)


2. Egyptian Arab (Egypt)


3. Amazigh (Morocco)


4. Igbo (Nigeria) 🇳🇬


5. Swazi (Eswatini)


6. Tswana (Botswana)


7. Kikuyu (Kenya)


8. Fang (Gabon)


9. Edo (Nigeria)


10. Akan (Ghana)




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How HDI is calculated

HDI = \sqrt[3]{I_{health} \cdot I_{education} \cdot I_{income}}

Health: Life expectancy

Education: Years of schooling

Income: GNI per capita



---

How MPI is calculated

MPI = H \times A

H: Poverty headcount

A: Deprivation intensity



---

Reference

Human Development Index (HDI): United Nations Development Programme (UNDP), Human Development Report 2023

Multidimensional Poverty Index (MPI): Oxford Poverty and Human Development Initiative (OPHI) & UNDP, Global MPI 2025

Source table: “Ranking of African Ethnicities by HDI & MPI (by Country) — Cosmopolitan Regions Excluded” (as shown in the provided image)

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What exactly do you want to gain in this fake post?
You would not allow people to believe Ibos again.
You are always posting fakes just to make yourself happy or what?

Mod,please delete this fake thread.
He posted this fake thread so that when he argues with people that are more literate and superior to him but dont have time for internet,he will tell them to check Google and this thread will crop up.
And he will say...didnt I tell you?

Only insecure persons do fakes.

lawani:
What about Ghanaians and Ivoiriens? There are many countries in west Africa with higher HDI than Nigeria and the ethnic groups there should perform better than Nigerian average. Akan for instance will perform better than Yoruba. Then Boer in South Africa despite being white are an African ethnic group and the black groups in South Africa presently have the highest HDI on the continent. South Africa has universal healthcare and Nigeria does not. So how is it possible for a Nigerian group to beat any SA group in HDI?

People don't know what Ghana is. Ghana made ten billion dollars from Agric export last year and Ghana is about 30 million people. They still have other exports

It is a well-known and documented fact that Nigeria has been actively hindering Igbo advancement since the civil war ended, and the Igbo have yet to govern at the national level. Furthermore, a brief examination of various indexes consistently places Igbo and Igbo-dominant states among the top 10.

math2001:
Ibo are not the 4th largest ethnicities . Kanuri are larger than ibo. That may be responsible for the crisis.

There's no tribe called ibo, it's igbo. Even the article clearly stated it as IGBO

ottersberger:
It is a well-known and documented fact that Nigeria has been actively hindering Igbo advancement since the civil war ended, and the Igbo have yet to govern at the national level. Furthermore, a brief examination of various indexes consistently places Igbo and Igbo-dominant states among the top 10.

I don't really agree. What about Efik/Ibibio advancement? They are almost half of Igbo population and Igbo have had two leaders on the national stage Zik and Ironsi. It does not matter that it was before the civil war. Efik/Ibibio have had none at all. Obj was forced on all Nigerians by the military and 2015 was the first time Yoruba got to the center in a democracy. Igbo were there 1960 to 1966 and 1979 to 1983.

Then all groups are prospering according to their population or is there any group without their towns, cities and thriving economy? They also have professionals that have excelled in their field according to their population. If you ask any group to list their achievements it will be a long list.

Lol. All this low esteem people self.. no link to back up your post.. anybody with a basic computer knowledge can design this on a Microsoft excel

Abi LZAA na lie?

kingsavage:
Lol. All this low esteem people self.. no link to back up your post.. anybody with a basic computer knowledge can design this on a Microsoft excel

Abi LZAA na lie?

But why the sifia pains na? 😄😄😄

lawani:
I don't really agree. What about Efik/Ibibio advancement? They are almost half of the Igbo population and Igbo have had two leaders on the national stage Zik and Ironsi. It does not matter that it was before the civil war. Efik/Ibibio have had none at all. Obj was forced on all Nigerians by the military and 2015 was the first time Yoruba got to the center in a democracy. Igbo were there 1960 to 1966 and 1979 to 1983.

Then all groups are prospering according to their population or is there any group without their towns, cities and thriving economy? They also have professionals that have excelled in their field according to their population. If you ask any group to list their achievements it will be a long list.

Your argument is fundamentally flawed on both facts and context.

First, equating the Efik/Ibibio with the Igbo is inaccurate. The Efik/Ibibio are a minority group and cannot be meaningfully compared to the Igbo in population size, historical reach, or national impact. That comparison distorts the discussion rather than clarifying it.

Second, dismissing Olusegun Obasanjo as a “forced” leader to deny the Igbo a place in Nigeria’s democratic leadership is disingenuous. President Obasanjo was voted for by a majority of Nigerians according to our constitution of 1999. He was a Nigerian president of Yoruba extraction who governed in a civilian dispensation; whether or not he aligned with your tribal expectations is irrelevant to that fact.

It is also worth recalling why he lacked strong Yoruba backing in his time. His administration withheld portions of Lagos State’s federal allocations because the state government, under Bola Tinubu, created additional local councils in violation of constitutional provisions. That decision was rooted in legality and fiscal discipline, not ethnic bias, particularly given concerns that the arrangement was designed to expand revenue channels prone to abuse.

The central issue you are avoiding is structural imbalance. The question is not whether every group has “achievements”; that is trivial and universally true. The issue is access to national power. On that front, the Igbo have been consistently marginalized since the end of the civil war, with no sustained presence at the highest level of leadership. The status quo pre-Civil War is well established and not worth further introspection.

This makes your generalization misleading. The Igbo case is not about a lack of progress but about a premeditated disproportionate exclusion from central political authority. Suffice it to say they have managed to thrive fairly well in the presence of these hostilities such that one wonders what they would have achieved in an equitable arrangement.

Finally, even on broader developmental metrics, the Igbo stand out. By some comparative assessments, they still ranked approximately fourth on an African human development scale when evaluated as a distinct socio-economic bloc, far ahead of any other Nigerian group. This underscores capacity and resilience despite systemic constraints, not because of equal opportunity.

Reducing this reality to “all groups are progressing” ignores both historical context and present-day disparities and realities.

Are you done

Ofemannnu:
What exactly do you want to gain in this fake post?
You would not allow people to believe Ibos again.
You are always posting fakes just to make yourself happy or what?

All 5 South East states are in the top 10 of Human Development Index (HDI) making the South East the best region for highly developed human capital.

We keep saying this: the East is an untapped gold mine. Invest in the East.

ariesbull:
Are you done


All 5 South East states are in the top 10 of Human Development Index (HDI) making the South East the best region for highly developed human capital.

We keep saying this: the East is an untapped gold mine. Invest in the East.

Please note that Nos. 1 and 4 represent locations with large Igbo populations.

So Igbo boosted their ranking


You can't hide facts and truth

ottersberger:
Please note that Nos. 1 and 4 represent locations with large Igbo populations.

ottersberger:
Your argument is fundamentally flawed on both facts and context.

First, equating the Efik/Ibibio with the Igbo is inaccurate. The Efik/Ibibio are a minority group and cannot be meaningfully compared to the Igbo in population size, historical reach, or national impact. That comparison distorts the discussion rather than clarifying it.

Second, dismissing Olusegun Obasanjo as a “forced” leader to deny the Igbo a place in Nigeria’s democratic leadership is disingenuous. President Obasanjo was voted for by a majority of Nigerians according to our constitution of 1999. He was a Nigerian president of Yoruba extraction who governed in a civilian dispensation; whether or not he aligned with your tribal expectations is irrelevant to that fact.

It is also worth recalling why he lacked strong Yoruba backing in his time. His administration withheld portions of Lagos State’s federal allocations because the state government, under Bola Tinubu, created additional local councils in violation of constitutional provisions. That decision was rooted in legality and fiscal discipline, not ethnic bias, particularly given concerns that the arrangement was designed to expand revenue channels prone to abuse.

The central issue you are avoiding is structural imbalance. The question is not whether every group has “achievements”; that is trivial and universally true. The issue is access to national power. On that front, the Igbo have been consistently marginalized since the end of the civil war, with no sustained presence at the highest level of leadership. The status quo pre-Civil War is well established and not worth further introspection.

This makes your generalization misleading. The Igbo case is not about a lack of progress but about a premeditated disproportionate exclusion from central political authority. Suffice it to say they have managed to thrive fairly well in the presence of these hostilities such that one wonders what they would have achieved in an equitable arrangement.

Finally, even on broader developmental metrics, the Igbo stand out. By some comparative assessments, they still ranked approximately fourth on an African human development scale when evaluated as a distinct socio-economic bloc, far ahead of any other Nigerian group. This underscores capacity and resilience despite systemic constraints, not because of equal opportunity.

Reducing this reality to “all groups are progressing” ignores both historical context and present-day disparities and realities.

No Obasanjo was voted for by the Yoruba for his second term so they didn't necessarily vote against him because of Tinubu.

If you say Efik Ibibio is a minority group then SE too is a minority group compared to the SW and the NW. Compared to the SS the SE is a minority group. I am not against zoning if it is equitable ie giving three slots to the SW for every one slot given to the SE because revenue and population have also to be considered. If not done like that then zoning would be unfair to every zone except the SE zone. That is the reality.

There are more than 200 ethnic groups in Nigeria and I believe there are some even in the middle belt doing better than the Yoruba in some respects. Some have more Generals per capita and as many Profs per Capita but their overall population is small is the disadvantage they have. What groups like the Yoruba Igbo and Hausa have working for them is mainly their population and not much else though I am not saying they don't have other things working for them. It must be noted that each of Yoruba and Hausa have a much higher population than Igbo. At least double and not realizing this fact is the main cause of Igbos thinking they are marginalized. Why do you think Yoruba churches are big, Yoruba musicians are big, Yoruba movie producers are big? It is not because of anything than their population though I am not saying the movie producers and musicians are not talented

Presently on a per capita basis the Igbo have the highest representation in government by far of the three biggest groups

lawani:
No Obasanjo was voted for by the Yoruba for his second term so they didn't necessarily vote against him because of Tinubu.

If you say Efik Ibibio is a minority group then SE too is a minority group compared to the SW and the NW. Compared to the SS the SE is a minority group. I am not against zoning if it is equitable ie giving three slots to the SW for every one slot given to the SE because revenue and population have also to be considered. If not done like that then zoning would be unfair to every zone except the SE zone. That is the reality.

There are more than 200 ethnic groups in Nigeria and I believe there are some even in the middle belt doing better than the Yoruba in some respects. Some have more Generals per capita and as many Profs per Capita but their overall population is small is the disadvantage they have. What groups like the Yoruba Igbo and Hausa have working for them is mainly their population and not much else though I am not saying they don't have other things working for them. It must be noted that each of Yoruba and Hausa have a much higher population than Igbo. At least double and not realizing this fact is the main cause of Igbos thinking they are marginalized. Why do you think Yoruba churches are big, Yoruba musicians are big, Yoruba movie producers are big? It is not because of anything than their population though I am not saying the movie producers and musicians are not talented

Presently on a per capita basis the Igbo have the highest representation in government by far of the three biggest groups

So, this is obviously no longer a factual discourse; therefore, it is no longer worth the time invested in its pursuit.

ottersberger:
So, this is obviously no longer a factual discourse; therefore, it is no longer worth the time invested in its pursuit.

Point out what is not factual in the post.

Putinofrussia:
It is a fake HID and that is why there is no link to it.
UNDP doesn't do ethnicities but nations' HDI.

Of course it's fake and another reason for chest beating.

There is no index by which Igbo and Yoruba are by far better than each other, no (reasonably) measurable one.

Clearly going by the posts, they made themselves aware somehow that there was something incoming and as soon as it landed, they all started posting to support the rubbish, even using alternative monikers.

How sad can their lives be to indulge in such, blatant lying to big yourself up.

Bigkoko:
I know of the Kikuyu (Kenya)....mehnnnnnn those people dey behave like Igbos for business. They have no mate in Kenya!

The same way other Nigerians peddle lies against Igbos that they love money too much is the same way they do against the Kikuyus...once the name start with Shiru etc, na Kikuyu babe be that....ohhhh

Regarding the rating, the Igbos should be rated Moore than the Morrocans

Lazy groups always say the same thing about hardworking ones. Ask many whites about jews, and even Asians about Chinese (though most Asians are hard working), or arabs about lebanese

lawani:
What about Ghanaians and Ivoiriens? There are many countries in west Africa with higher HDI than Nigeria and the ethnic groups there should perform better than Nigerian average. Akan for instance will perform better than Yoruba. Then Boer in South Africa despite being white are an African ethnic group and the black groups in South Africa presently have the highest HDI on the continent. South Africa has universal healthcare and Nigeria does not. So how is it possible for a Nigerian group to beat any SA group in HDI?

People don't know what Ghana is. Ghana made ten billion dollars from Agric export last year and Ghana is about 30 million people. They still have other exports

If igbo were their own country the HDI would be higher than ghana and CIV. Ghana's hdi is only 'higher' than Nigeria because of northern nigeria.

Ofodirinwa:
If igbo were their own country the HDI would be higher than ghana and CIV. Ghana's hdi is only 'higher' than Nigeria because of northern nigeria.

Is there any Igbo city like Abidjan or Accra? Before HDI can be high, government spending must be high and there is no way around that. That is why Lagos and Ogun HDI are the highest.
It is of course true that sections of the country have different HDIs and it is to do with the capacity of the governments.