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RealityKings1:
That's a Greek saying
Ο Βίκτορ είναι σίγουρος

He didn't say victory is sure LP
Or victory is sure PDP

did he mention any party? Or it's your assumption

If you want to counter, do it with sensible points na

angelboy01:
When you spend your whole life on nairaland and propaganda how will you know. Just go on X and ask Grok it will verify it as the truth. Whatever your propaganda clicks or not that's the truth. He's even changed his account name and restricted the one you called fake.

Quick lecture about Grok, it is based on an LLM which means what you teach it to say is what it will return.

So if I tell it, "the poster with the moniker angelboy01 is a President Tinubu supporter" , next time anyone asks "who is angelboy01", it will correctly tell me "angelboy01 na President Tinubu fan".

The link I sent you is the actual debunking of the nonsense about Prof being on X by INEC.

But feel free to believe what you want, after all, you Obidients still shout stolen mandate.

Kastonkastroll:
Okay if this is true then the inec chairman should resign or the president should sack him. Am all for free and fair election and that's why i don't and will never support the courts and inec interference in a political party internal crisis..

The only time the courts should interfere in the affairs of political parties is when one party sue another party. Aside from that the courts should stop ridiculing itself in a matter that doesn't concern it.

Because one day we may just wake up to see a security guard of a political party suing the party for one ridiculous thing and the courts will entertain such frivolous case.

You are one amongst only very few APC supporters who still have their conscience and objectivity intact. The APC has deviated from the ideals upon which it was formed. The earlier you realise this, the better.

aswani:
Quick lecture about Grok, it is based on an LLM which means what you teach it to say is what it will return.

So if I tell it, "the poster with the moniker angelboy01 is a President Tinubu supporter" , next time anyone asks "who is angelboy01", it will correctly tell me "angelboy01 na President Tinubu fan".

The link I sent you is the actual debunking of the nonsense about Prof being on X by INEC.

But feel free to believe what you want, after all, you Obidients still shout stolen mandate.

Why you dey write novel because of wetin I write. Na wa o.

Kastonkastroll:
Okay if this is true then the inec chairman should resign or the president should sack him. Am all for free and fair election and that's why i don't and will never support the courts and inec interference in a political party internal crisis..

The only time the courts should interfere in the affairs of political parties is when one party sue another party. Aside from that the courts should stop ridiculing itself in a matter that doesn't concern it.

Because one day we may just wake up to see a security guard of a political party suing the party for one ridiculous thing and the courts will entertain such frivolous case.

Cannot agree more. Guy has baggage. Credibility challenge evident.

Kastonkastroll:
Okay if this is true then the inec chairman should resign or the president should sack him. Am all for free and fair election and that's why i don't and will never support the courts and inec interference in a political party internal crisis..

The only time the courts should interfere in the affairs of political parties is when one party sue another party. Aside from that the courts should stop ridiculing itself in a matter that doesn't concern it.

Because one day we may just wake up to see a security guard of a political party suing the party for one ridiculous thing and the courts will entertain such frivolous case.

Cannot agree more. Guy has baggage. Credibility challenge evident. Let him go joor

aswani:
Quick lecture about Grok, it is based on an LLM which means what you teach it to say is what it will return.

So if I tell it, "the poster with the moniker angelboy01 is a President Tinubu supporter" , next time anyone asks "who is angelboy01", it will correctly tell me "angelboy01 na President Tinubu fan".

The link I sent you is the actual debunking of the nonsense about Prof being on X by INEC.

But feel free to believe what you want, after all, you Obidients still shout stolen mandate.

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This is not the way Grok works. Rather in the scenario you described it may mention that someone has once claimed that he is a fan of the president. It will add a disclaimer pointing out that that is not proof.

franugo:
If you want to counter, do it with sensible points na

🙁🙁🙁🙁

DeepSight:
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This is not the way Grok works. Rather in the scenario you described it may mention that someone has once claimed that he is a fan of the president. It will add a disclaimer pointing out that that is not proof.

Humour me and tell me how LLM's work! You don't have to use my example.

Then look at the poster I responded to and defend their reliance on AI based on what they posted.

aswani:
Humour me and tell me how LLM's work! You don't have to use my example.

Then look at the poster I responded to and defend their reliance on AI based on what they posted.

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Well first, let's be clear about one thing. I have no idea whether that Amupitan post is real or fake and I am not discussing that.

Yes, these models are Language Learning Models, Grok is a Large Language Model - that does not infer that it works in the simplistic way you suggested. If it did, it would be useless.

Per your suggestion, once anyone writes anywhere on the internet that I am a goat, if you ask Grok today if I am a goat, it will confirm that I am a goat.

That's simply not the case. It will compare and contrast all or most of the relevant information about me and deliver the most likely truthful results while placing appropriate disclaimers.

DeepSight:
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Well first, let's be clear about one thing. I have no idea whether that Amupitan post is real or fake and I am not discussing that.

Yes, these models are Language Learning Models, Grok is a Large Language Model - that does not infer that it works in the simplistic way you suggested. If it did, it would be useless.

Per your suggestion, once anyone writes anywhere on the internet that I am a goat, if you ask Grok today if I am a goat, it will confirm that I am a goat.

That's simply not the case. It will compare and contrast all or most of the relevant information about me and deliver the most likely truthful results while placing appropriate disclaimers.

Read my original post again on the matter again, read it slowly and clearly. I was a lot more careful with the words I used than you thought.

I have given you a hint with the text in bold as to where you are wrong in your inference.

aswani:
Read my original post again on the matter again, read it slowly and clearly. I was a lot more careful with the words I used than you thought.

I have given you a hint with the text in bold as to where you are wrong in your inference.

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Alright.

So I have gone back and read again as you requested.

The only difference I can see between what I said and what you said is that you said if you tell Grok X. While I said if you post anywhere on the internet X.

I am sure you know the reason I said that. It's because AI models like that scan the internet for information related to questions anyone may ask them.

Nevertheless let's keep to what you wrote. Namely that if you tell Grok X, it will vomit the same X verbatim to anyone who asks that same question as per what you told it. This is simply false and cannot be the case. To start with, one million people may have "told it" one million different things about the question being asked. So ab initio it can never be true that it will simply answer based on what one person has "told it" at some point in time.

DeepSight:
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Alright.

So I have gone back and read again as you requested.

The only difference I can see between what I said and what you said is that you said if you tell Grok X. While I said if you post anywhere on the internet X.

I am sure you know the reason I said that. It's because AI models like that scan the internet for information related to questions anyone may ask them.

Nevertheless let's keep to what you wrote. Namely that if you tell Grok X, it will vomit the same X verbatim to anyone who asks that same question as per what you told it. This is simply false and cannot be the case. To start with, one million people may have "told it" one million different things about the question being asked. So ab initio it can never be true that it will simply answer based on what one person has "told it" at some point in time.

Per the text in bold, I am also sure you now know the reason I worded what I said in the manner I did.

It was a summary of LLM's, not a deep dive or an attempt at one, based on what the poster I responded to said. You needed to put the whole conversation in context instead of just picking a sentence I wrote.

As it happens and to respond to a point you made previously, I think AI can be as useful and as useless as the person searching for information wants it to be. The Garbage in Garbage out factor still exists and, whilst Grok or whatever is now getting better with the addition of links to results when you do Internet searches, still high in my own personal opinion. Way too high!

I also wasn't specific on Grok in my posts as you are, I was referring to LLM's of which there are many variations.

My general point on the uselessness (or untrustworthyness) of "AI" can also be further butressed by the fact that there are currently digital images flying around all over the Internet. You can "generate" a picture of Super Eagles winning a world Cup or of Peter Obí voting for APC. Garbage in, garbage out as I said.

Finally, you are wrong in your inferring multiple results can't be produced when you ask questions of an LLM, very wrong actually. You can of course frame your question in a way that it produces one answer, produces a different answer to a slightly altered question and of course produces multiple answers.

I was hoping this post would be short and sweet as I know I might be wrong on a lot of things but not on this one, once again, in its proper context.

Anyway I shall now get off my soapbox as I am not even an expert on LLM'S.

Sending this to the American Congress and EU immediately.

Amupitan has no business being the INEC chairman..

We suffered enough having Mahmoud Yakubu, another APC member, as INEC chairman..He rigged the 2023 elections and told Nigerians to go to hell or go to court.


Prior, to his appointment as INEC Chairman, he was seen in APC functions, wearing APC caps and regalia. We protested, they said we don't have a point. The rest is history. He delivered the most televised rigged elections in the history of Nigeria

Today Yakubu has been rewarded with Ambassadorial position for a job well done..

We cannot allow this happen again with another biased INEC Chairman who is biased in favour of APC. Else, that election will not hold. If the military has to take over, so be it.

aswani:
Per the text in bold, I am also sure you now know the reason I worded what I said in the manner I did.

It was a summary of LLM's, not a deep dive or an attempt at one, based on what the poster I responded to said. You needed to put the whole conversation in context instead of just picking a sentence I wrote.

As it happens and to respond to a point you made previously, I think AI can be as useful and as useless as the person searching for information wants it to be. The Garbage in Garbage out factor still exists and, whilst Grok or whatever is now getting better with the addition of links to results when you do Internet searches, still high in my own personal opinion. Way too high!

I also wasn't specific on Grok in my posts as you are, I was referring to LLM's of which there are many variations.

My general point on the uselessness (or untrustworthyness) of "AI" can also be further butressed by the fact that there are currently digital images flying around all over the Internet. You can "generate" a picture of Super Eagles winning a world Cup or of Peter Obí voting for APC. Garbage in, garbage out as I said.

Finally, you are wrong in your inferring multiple results can't be produced when you ask questions of an LLM, very wrong actually. You can of course frame your question in a way that it produces one answer, produces a different answer to a slightly altered question and of course produces multiple answers.

I was hoping this post would be short and sweet as I know I might be wrong on a lot of things but not on this one, once again, in its proper context.

Anyway I shall now get off my soapbox as I am not even an expert on LLM'S.

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I actually agree with what you have written here. People can frame a question in a specific way to get a specific kind of result.

Nlfpmod this thread deserve to be in front page so Nigerians could see how desperate and shameless tinubu has become to win election in 2027

angelboy01:
When you spend your whole life on nairaland and propaganda how will you know. Just go on X and ask Grok it will verify it as the truth. Whatever your propaganda clicks or not that's the truth. He's even changed his account name and restricted the one you called fake.

DeepSight, all my ranting about LLM's was to respond to this Obidient poster particularly regarding the text in bold.

That's the context I was mentioning though when you consider their response, I clearly wasted my time in trying to educate them but, hey ho!

Dalohad:
Sending this to the American Congress and EU immediately.

Amupitan has no business being the INEC chairman..

They will do a quick Google search, see that it is a nonsense being perpetuated by an Obidient and put your email on a blocked list.

RealityKings1:
So because he made a comment under a post, that means he's a card carrying member?
I don't understand your logic

Look all those people jumping from party to party should go and key into federal government agricultural programs.
It's not a must they contest for anything
Mechanized farming is the way forward.

I'm sure the with number of decades they spent in government positions, they should have been able to learn about food production.

That position he's occupying is supposed to be occupied by a neutral person not someone that has shown support to the ruling party publicly