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Estello:
https://applesbite.com/islamic-and-christian-god-not-my-belief-wole-soyinka/

So with all this scholarship and even attaining the peak or aspiration of any scholars this is what he beliefs.

What a sad and terrible ending that would be for him if he does in such situation. Truly things of this world are nothing except correct faith in monotheistic belief in Divine and his messengers. And Mr. Nobel laureate score blatant zero because in his philosophical thinking violence is criteria to judge truth of other religions.

You can't be an atheist when you acknowledge Orisha.

Ever8090:
Shei this man protest during Johnathan's regime when fuel was 170 ,a bag of rice wa 6k when we use to buy 2 eggs 50 naira, 1 round bread 30 naira...today na religion him dey discuss instead to go protest....I stop taking him serious Long time ago .

Your father can start from where Wole Soyinka stopped.

Soyinka has been protesting since pre independence era.

MEGAWATCH:
Useless man, you are not interested in what is happening in government again like you use to do before?

Your interest now is in religion abi?

HYPOCRITE at old age, pretender at younger age.

God don use Tinubu to expose you na!



🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Can you keep it in context, so we can make sense. What has your dad or you done for even your village?

descartes400:
Truthspeaker that can not read properly, that one na truthspeaker?

Liar, who cannot read properly. Even you quoted that he said

"Soyinka explained that he finds traditional Orisa worship more appealing than Christianity and Islam, citing its artistic, creative, and mysterious qualities. According to him, the traditional belief system is also more open and less associated with violence compared to the other two religions."

So come lie to us and tell us whether truly Orisa worshipping people were so good that they never went to war against anybody

Kobojunkie:
Why are even the most learned among Nigerians some of the most ignorant? I can't seem to wrap my head around this. 😒😒😒

Not trying to hold brief for any religion but want to understand exactly how did this man come away concluding that the traditional orisa worship we have in Yoruba land is less associated with violence? is he suggesting we turn a blind eye to the violence of money rituals or ritual murders for example? 😒😒

I happen to have read somewhere that he is or was a cultist and we all know it is associated with traditional worship ideas. Are cults equally less violent? 😒😒''

2. He is free to believe in whatever he chooses; but he does not have freedom to make up his own facts, abeg. To this day, we don't know whether much of the kidnapping happening across Nigeria is connected to orisa worship or not but the pattern seems to follow in many cases.😒

There.is nothing in Orisa worship that has anything to do with money or ritual murder, It's infact a corruption brought upon us by foreign semitic religions

God created you in his own image and likeness.....yet you deny him

For the fact he has lived this long, shows the mercy of God, I hope he acknowledges Him before the curtains shut.

Wetin concern me?

can one be a professor and the same time ignorant when it comes to religious beliefs? I don't blame you if you identify with Orisa, but what you should be more interested to you and to find out is this; is there an Almighty God? if you believe in Orisa, you indeed believe in something. but why not make ur research about the true GOD

Dtruthspeaker:
Is he saying that the orisa worshipping people did not do violence and go to war? Mtchew

Don't mind him. Two face individual.

Well, anything you like you believe … religion is a matter of choice but one thing is sure … none is real or fake … just believe at your own risk

Thank you

Kobojunkie:
Why are even the most learned among Nigerians some of the most ignorant? I can't seem to wrap my head around this. 😒😒😒

Not trying to hold brief for any religion but want to understand exactly how did this man come away concluding that the traditional orisa worship we have in Yoruba land is less associated with violence? is he suggesting we turn a blind eye to the violence of money rituals or ritual murders for example? 😒😒

I happen to have read somewhere that he is or was a cultist and we all know it is associated with traditional worship ideas. Are cults equally less violent? 😒😒''

2. He is free to believe in whatever he chooses; but he does not have freedom to make up his own facts, abeg. To this day, we don't know whether much of the kidnapping happening across Nigeria is connected to orisa worship or not but the pattern seems to follow in many cases.😒

All relogions are associated with frenzied violence
How else will people commit unimaginable atrocities if you dont invoke the name of God

When the pope spoke recently about God not accepting the prayers of people with blood on their hands
I just laughed

Is it the God of the old testament he is talking about
He is one of the most violent gods in history, the one that commanded israel to go kill their neighbours and take over their lands several times.
Isreal is still following his lead today

All this Gen Z generation will never understand what this man meant, and most of you think is going to church and clapping hands will save you. I pitty this ignorant generation. Spirituality is beyound just reading a book.

Estello:
https://applesbite.com/islamic-and-christian-god-not-my-belief-wole-soyinka/

Feigning Wisdom but landing back in deep ignorance

"An atheist with strong spiritual awareness."



Atheists NOW believes in Spirits!?

Ever8090:
Shei this man protest during Johnathan's regime when fuel was 170 ,a bag of rice wa 6k when we use to buy 2 eggs 50 naira, 1 round bread 30 naira...today na religion him dey discuss instead to go protest....I stop taking him serious Long time ago .

This the problem when people like cannot read a short article and comprehend. He was responding to the question about religion that the interviewer asked. I bet you probably didn't even read the article.

MaxInDHouse:
Who cares what you believe baba?😂

I care

TenQ:
Feigning Wisdom but landing back in deep ignorance

"An atheist with strong spiritual awareness."



Atheists NOW believes in Spirits!?

Another one that cannot think! Please define spirituality.

Estello:
https://applesbite.com/islamic-and-christian-god-not-my-belief-wole-soyinka/

I am a committed Christian but you can’t blame the man. Our forefathers lived their lives before Muslim and Christianity was introduced to them.

Everyone can believe in what they feel works for them.

Orisa worship is demon worship.

Correct man. Islam and Christianity are both from the Middle East region, just like Hinduism is native to India etc. I identify with the Orisas of my land and ancestors. I profess that Eledumare is the supreme God.

Africans should have no business with foreign gods.

GloriousGbola:
anyone who has followed wole soyinka would know this.
he has never hidden this

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Since forever.

Woke Soyinka have long lost his moral rectitude to approve or condemn anything conscienable. The imp is a monumental disgrace.

Man of wisdom

MaxInDHouse:
Who cares what you believe baba?😂

Some don’t, but others find it relevant to understanding his perspective.

A Bible study will correct your thinking!

Back then when God commanded the Israelites to destroy all the inhabitants of Canaan that may sound barbaric if not given a reasonable consideration.

Remember that before this God issued such an order people have been killing their neighbors to snatch territories but when this God decided to acquire a portion of the earth for His worshipers the first step He took was to allow His people to be enslaved for 400 years in the world's most powerful nation in the world of that time.
Then He selected two feeble octogenarians to go and face the great Pharaoh of Egypt who was also viewed as a God back then.
This God singlehandedly delivered His own people from Egypt where several deities are revered, rendered all their Gods hopeless and drowned Egyptian's mightiest warriors in the red sea!😟
Please let's be reasonable now.
If you are living in the land of Canaan back then and you heard that the people who's God did all that are matching towards your territory with the aim of reclaiming the land that was formally occupied by this people will you still wait anticipating a fight with a people who's God is invincible?🤔

Surely the inhabitants of Canaan back then deserves to be exterminated.

WHY?

Because all the nations in ancient times believe in the strongest army but here comes a people who's God is not just a deity like others that had to fight for their Gods but the ALMIGHTY GOD!😟

CorperKola:
Is it the God of the old testament he is talking about
He is one of the most violent gods in history, the one that commanded israel to go kill their neighbours and take over their lands several times.
Isreal is still following his lead today

CorperKola:
✓ All relogions are associated with frenzied violence
How else will people commit unimaginable atrocities if you dont invoke the name of God
✓ When the pope spoke recently about God not accepting the prayers of people with blood on their hands I just laughed
✓ Is it the God of the old testament he is talking about He is one of the most violent gods in history, the one that commanded israel to go kill their neighbours and take over their lands several times.
✓ Isreal is still following his lead today

1. Hitler did not invoke or associate the name of any god with his atrocious acts; neither did Stalin, Mao, or King Leonard II of Belgium. All you need is a human mind and an ideology to cook up such frenzied violence. A god figure is optional.🥱🥱🥱

2. I laughed too knowing that the Pope was simply being delusional if he thought the world still believes his powers come from some gods and not the company calls the Catholic church. 🥱🥱

3. Here, your ignorance screams even louder than your previous statements. 🤐😩🤐

4. How many of its neighboring states has Israel taken over today? Are you sure you are OK at all? 😩😩

There was nothing violent about the God of the Old testament. It is irritating seeing people argue what they refuse to educate themselves on. The Old Testament is the constitutional Law of the nation state of Israel constituted primarily of the people of Israel. Like every other nation that existed at the time, it has an army, laws which detailed the state's relations with neighboring countries and also conducts during war campaigns. 🥱🥱

If you would put aside your prejudice for a moment -- we are talking here of a nation that ceased or ended 2000 years ago -- to realize that you canopy judge such a nation by laws and idea that exist today, you would actually begin to see that the nation of Israel had one of, of hot the best LAws of any of the nations that existed around the same time that it did. 🥱🥱

Estello:
https://applesbite.com/islamic-and-christian-god-not-my-belief-wole-soyinka/

It doesn't change your crooked and double faced nature

Afrojuju2017:
✓ There.is nothing in Orisa worship that has anything to do with money or ritual murder, It's infact a corruption brought upon us by foreign semitic religions

There is nothing yet every single day we read of orisa today, we hear of nothing but mostly money ritual. Are Orisa worshipers also bound by Taqiyah laws same as the Islamics? 😩😩😩

Well i agree with you because whenever the Western world wants to control our people they will give one of us a title like they gave this our brother and the next thing is majority will like to hear whatever he has to say.
Apart from the title white man gave him can you point to any reasonable thing he has done for his people?🤔

ekitimanalways:
Some don’t, but others find it relevant to understanding his perspective.