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Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by frankson1(m): 8:10pm On Apr 14
notobiafrababe:
Look at yourself in the mirror


Your guess is as good as mine
And your guess is my guess cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by patrickcollins: 8:35pm On Apr 14
JLADRESEARCH:
Yessss. The ability of Israel and the United States of America to impose their will on others Is reducing gradually . All we want now is a Civil War among NATO countries 😂
European part of the NATO are weak, America wouldn't get involved again with regards to Ukraine, that's European problems.
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Kukutente23: 8:39pm On Apr 14
Bizmind95:
Yes, of course, l know that Hamas is in control of Gaza just like Boko Haram was in control of most of Borno, Yobe and Adamawa States back then in 2014 that Goodluck Jonathan declared a State of Emergency in those three afore-nentioned states. So let's say that Boko Haram attacked Cameroon from their bases in those three states just like Hamas attacked lsrael from their base in Gaza on October 7, so in retaliation for the attack, Cameroon should now start bombing and killing all the innocent women and children in Borno, Yobe and Adamawa just like lsrael has already killed 100,000 and counting innocent civilians in Gaza since October 7 Abi?
Unfortunately you're still not getting it
I'll try one more time and if you still don't get it, I'll have to give up
Hamas is a political party. They ran for elections in 2006 against the Fatah party which was the then ruling party in Gaza and won by a whooping 80% of votes. Since then, they have been in charge of Gaza as the ruling party
Boko haram as I believe you're aware is an insurgent group who believes in getting to power through violence. They have never organised into a political party nor run for elections. Instead they use violence and threats to coerce people to their side.
So comparing Hamas with Boko haram in terms of legitimacy is like comparing apples with oranges
So if Boko Haram attacked Cameroon today, they are doing so as a non- state actor while If Hamas attacks Cameroon, they are doing so as a state with territorial boundary
Do you get it now?
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Dgift(f): 8:54pm On Apr 14
Seek God
Seek eternal rest for your soul
Jesus is coming back soon
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Floky215: 9:25pm On Apr 14
Uchesis:
99% of those supporting Israel still thinks that Israelis are Christians



No be juju be that?

grin grin grin
Atleast are better than the jihadiat by far...
Every fairh is safe with them but you can't say that when it's islam...Moslems are not even safe with fellow moslem talk more kf other faith...

Any sane person would gravitate to the jews rather than moslems and arabs who are constantly waiting and looking for opportunity to chop ones head off and cap it up with allah akbar for maximum blessings and very robust numbers of virgins with round breast and fat yansh in aljana..
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Egodollars(f): 9:28pm On Apr 14
When you have what people need, you really don't care. They would still come calling to ask for it at a higher rate.
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Egodollars(f): 9:30pm On Apr 14
They would still go and buy it from them. It is law of market
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Altern8tor: 10:09pm On Apr 14
This ur hate for Israel will crush u.... Can't u observe that all nations that hate Israel are being crushed...open ur eyes and see
God1000:
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-892957?
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by DarkJeddi(m): 10:09pm On Apr 14
michoim:
Confused woman...Israel don't need you!
Yeah.
All they need is Dumb Trump to do their biden.
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Alikoooooooooo: 10:37pm On Apr 14
God1000:
Oya, over to Nigerian trump's supporters, let's hear from them
Kasala has burst. E don cast. E don cast. Trump is a small boy. The world's most powerful man my foot.
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Alikoooooooooo: 10:40pm On Apr 14
Baxilexi:
The big question should be, how come so many European nations depend on Isreal for defense? Even Turkey.

She’s a politician so approval ratings are important but I hope she has back-channels because like Ukraine is learning, Isreal has learned that is much more secure to be feared than loved.

The EU should get their sh** together, winter is coming.
Depend on Israel for defense like how ? It's the other way around.
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Bizmind95:
Kukutente23:
Unfortunately you're still not getting it
I'll try one more time and if you still don't get it, I'll have to give up
Hamas is a political party. They ran for elections in 2006 against the Fatah party which was the then ruling party in Gaza and won by a whooping 80% of votes. Since then, they have been in charge of Gaza as the ruling party
Boko haram as I believe you're aware is an insurgent group who believes in getting to power through violence. They have never organised into a political party nor run for elections. Instead they use violence and threats to coerce people to their side.
So comparing Hamas with Boko haram in terms of legitimacy is like comparing apples with oranges
So if Boko Haram attacked Cameroon today, they are doing so as a non- state actor while If Hamas attacks Cameroon, they are doing so as a state with territorial boundary
Do you get it now?
The question here sir, isn't really about political parties or militant groups, but Humanity and Morality!!! Any political party or militant group can be in control of any region at any particular point in time!!! Hamas for instance started off as a militant group before they evolved into a political party and then took over Gaza against Fatah in 2006, but that doesn't mean that the majority of Gazans support Hamas today!!! Even if they did back in 2006, most of them don't do so anymore cus they've seen the true colours of Hamas!!! So Hamas is not Gaza, and Gaza is not Hamas just like Boko Haram is not Northern Nigeria and Northen Nigeria is not Boko Haram!!! Hamas even kills Gazans that opposes them, and coerce the others to publicly support them or face death!!! So my logic still stands!!! Let's say that Boko Haram evolves into a political party just like Hamas did, then they coerce the majority of Northern Nigerians to vote for them in local elections or face death and destruction like Hamas did to Gazans in 2006, then they take control of Northern Nigeria like Hamas took control of Gaza, then they attack Cameroon from their base in Northern Nigeria like Hamas attacked lsrael on October 7, So in retaliation for the attack, Cameroon should start bombing all the innocent babies and women in Northern Nigeria Abi?
Back in the early 1940s that Jews were still struggling for independence against the British in the then "Mandatory Palestine", the so-called Jewish "terrorist groups" like the Haganah and lrgun, were in control of most of the Jewish parts of Palestine, just like Hamas is in control of Gaza today, and they were killing British soldiers and civilians, and bombing public and tourists' sites in Palestine. Infact, those Jewish terrorist groups really terrorized the whole of Palestine back then to force the British out. So in retaliation for the attacks, the British should have killed 100,000 innocent Jewish women and babies just like lsrael is doing in Gaza today Abi?
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Alikoooooooooo: 10:50pm On Apr 14
Altern8tor:
This ur hate for Israel will crush u.... Can't u observe that all nations that hate Israel are being crushed...open ur eyes and see
Oh oh oh ..... You think God is one the side of Israel ? Where was God when they were in Egypt for 400 years ..... What did they do for 400 years ? Where was God when the Romans came calling 40 years after Jesus died. Where was God when Germany came calling.

You guys do not know God at all.
If you want God to fight for you be peaceful, gentle and a mumu let them beat you up first then cry onto God then God will teach you what you need to do

" Did Jesus not say ,he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword ? " Did Jesus not say " Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called Sons of God " ".
But our Nigerian Christians know religion more than Jesus their savior. Ride on.
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Altern8tor: 11:12pm On Apr 14
This one no even know anything sef..... If Jesus Christ that is d Begotten Son of God can be bruised,, crushed and sacrificed to save d world who is Israel not to suffer for God.... Thinking that wen u belong to God there can't be suffering is baby wisdom of Christianity... Did Job not suffer unnecessarily and horribly.... D suffering of Israel is born of out of what God will do with Jerusalem at d return of Jesus... D bible says Jesus will land on mount olives near Jerusalem and save Israel at d final time of war.... A new Jerusalem will descend out from Heaven and rest on the same space where d current Israel is today.... So all d destruction of d land is okay by God bkos He will bring a new Jerusalem to replace d one destroyed by war......
Now let me show you d bigger picture,,, Jesus Christ was rejected by d Jews but they will receive the antichrist according to;

John 5:43
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not:

if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.


There are 2 possibities of d antichrist;
1. The antichrist has to be someone the Jews will receive.... He cannot be a Muslim..... I very much suspect d next president of USA to be d antichrist,,I could be very wrong though... But if u notice,,only USA are close allies to Israel... D antichrist also will be a political/religious figure.

2. The other possibility of the antichrist will be a figure who will rise inside Jerusalem being partly a jew and Islamic at d same time,, using his Jewish and Islamic influence to bring peace.... Currently there's no top religious figure in Israel,, again it's even possible that d antichrist might be someone who will take over from netanyahu as prime minister...if u need more understanding,,I'm all ears
Alikoooooooooo:
Oh oh oh ..... You think God is one the side of Israel ? Where was God when they were in Egypt for 400 years ..... What did they do for 400 years ? Where was God when the Romans came calling 40 years after Jesus died. Where was God when Germany came calling.

You guys do not know God at all.
If you want God to fight for you be peaceful, gentle and a mumu let them beat you up first then cry onto God then God will teach you what you need to do

" Did Jesus not say ,he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword ? " Did Jesus not say " Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called Sons of God " ".
But our Nigerian Christians know religion more than Jesus their savior. Ride on.
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Alikoooooooooo: 11:22pm On Apr 14
Altern8tor:
This one no even know anything sef..... If Jesus Christ that is d Begotten Son of God can be bruised,, crushed and sacrificed to save d world who is Israel not to suffer for God.... Thinking that wen u belong to God there can't be suffering is baby wisdom of Christianity... Did Job not suffer unnecessarily and horribly.... D suffering of Israel is born of out of what God will do with Jerusalem at d return of Jesus... D bible says Jesus will land on mount olives near Jerusalem and save Israel at d final time of war.... A new Jerusalem will descend out from Heaven and rest on the same space where d current Israel is today.... So all d destruction of d land is okay by God bkos He will bring a new Jerusalem to replace d one destroyed by war......
Now let me show you d bigger picture,,, Jesus Christ was rejected by d Jews but they will receive the antichrist according to;

John 5:43
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not:

if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.


There are 2 possibities of d antichrist;
1. The antichrist has to be someone the Jews will receive.... He cannot be a Muslim..... I very much suspect d next president of USA to be d antichrist,,I could be very wrong though... But if u notice,,only USA are close allies to Israel... D antichrist also will be a political/religious figure.

2. The other possibility of the antichrist will be a figure who will rise inside Jerusalem being partly a jew and Islamic at d same time,, using his Jewish and Islamic influence to bring peace.... Currently there's no top religious figure in Israel,, again it's even possible that d antichrist might be someone who will take over from netanyahu as prime minister...if u need more understanding,,I'm all ears
The Antichrist is Not my business.

My business is to live my life in a good manner so that I do not have regrets and that I do not live in a wrong manner.

Looking for the Antichrist is a waste of time when he will come he will come. I don't bother thinking about heaven I bother about living my life rightly. If I live my life right then my chances are higher of going to heaven.

I'm not like the people looking for the Messiah in life you do not go looking for spiritual encounters you just live your life and whatever happens will happen
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Altern8tor: 12:20am On Apr 15
antichrist is not anybody's concern,,but that is where we are heading to with all these wars,, bkos d antichrist will be d first person to bring peace to Israel but it will be short period..it's not ordinary.... Saying that God is not interested in Israel bkos of the war is a lack of understanding
Alikoooooooooo:
The Antichrist is Not my business.

My business is to live my life in a good manner so that I do not have regrets and that I do not live in a wrong manner.

Looking for the Antichrist is a waste of time when he will come he will come. I don't bother thinking about heaven I bother about living my life rightly. If I live my life right then my chances are higher of going to heaven.

I'm not like the people looking for the Messiah in life you do not go looking for spiritual encounters you just live your life and whatever happens will happen
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by chrisxxx(m): 6:17am On Apr 15
Uchesis:
99% of those supporting Israel still thinks that Israelis are Christians



No be juju be that?

grin grin grin
Muslims like you fighting Israel fight them because they think they are Christians.
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Uchesis: 6:21am On Apr 15
chrisxxx:
Muslims like you fighting Israel fight them because they think they are Christians.
How many Uches do you know that are muslims?


Get some sense bro.


That' is how you guys call anybody that does not support Tinubu an Obedient

grin
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Uchesis: 6:24am On Apr 15
Skullminers1:
Who asked you, everybody knows the religion Israelis are practicing and as long as they are decimating you terrorists Muslims we love them with passion.
You people think you can ever use una outdated taqiwa on Igbos to hate Jews the way you people used to deceived other tribes to hate Jews but you people will keep failing while Israel will keep dealing with you Muslims
If you think i am a muslim then you need to visit Yaba Left immediately


grin
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by nurusystem(m): 6:37am On Apr 15
Jokay07:
Isreal sef no send anybody papa
Your Isreal must go down
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Jokay07(m): 6:58am On Apr 15
nurusystem:
Your Isreal must go down
Nurudeen. Is that you?
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Nwaikpe: 7:07am On Apr 15
Flangelo12:
Take several seats local champion.

I just provided evidence that Israel depends on Germany for 30% of its defence imports.
Global champion who doesn't know that Israel was Germany's 7th-largest supplier of military technology as of 2024.
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Alikoooooooooo: 7:37am On Apr 15
Altern8tor:
antichrist is not anybody's concern,,but that is where we are heading to with all these wars,, bkos d antichrist will be d first person to bring peace to Israel but it will be short period..it's not ordinary.... Saying that God is not interested in Israel bkos of the war is a lack of understanding
Israel is not my God, and God is NOT only interested in Israel. Noah who saved the World was not a Jew. Adam was not a Jew. Methuselah was not a Jew. God has no Chosen people all God cares about is people keeping his Words. If you like call yourself a Christian Go to church morning noon and night and do not do what the bible says and you will see how far.

Faith without Works is Dead. Jesus salvation is Potential salvation. Obeying what Jesus said is Kinetic salvation.

Israel is Not my God, Moses is Not my God, Jesus.is Not My God. God is My God.
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Flangelo12: 8:33am On Apr 15
Nwaikpe:
Global champion who doesn't know that Israel was Germany's 7th-largest supplier of military technology as of 2024.
What does that have to do with Germany providing 30% of Israel's hardware?
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Kukutente23: 8:47am On Apr 15
Bizmind95:
The question here sir, isn't really about political parties or militant groups, but Humanity and Morality!!! Any political party or militant group can be in control of any region at any particular point in time!!! Hamas for instance started off as a militant group before they evolved into a political party and then took over Gaza against Fatah in 2006, but that doesn't mean that the majority of Gazans support Hamas today!!! Even if they did back in 2006, most of them don't do so anymore cus they've seen the true colours of Hamas!!! So Hamas is not Gaza, and Gaza is not Hamas just like Boko Haram is not Northern Nigeria and Northen Nigeria is not Boko Haram!!! Hamas even kills Gazans that opposes them, and coerce the others to publicly support them or face death!!! So my logic still stands!!! Let's say that Boko Haram evolves into a political party just like Hamas did, then they coerce the majority of Northern Nigerians to vote for them in local elections or face death and destruction like Hamas did to Gazans in 2006, then they take control of Northern Nigeria like Hamas took control of Gaza, then they attack Cameroon from their base in Northern Nigeria like Hamas attacked lsrael on October 7, So in retaliation for the attack, Cameroon should start bombing all the innocent babies and women in Northern Nigeria Abi?
Back in the early 1940s that Jews were still struggling for independence against the British in the then "Mandatory Palestine", the so-called Jewish "terrorist groups" like the Haganah and lrgun, were in control of most of the Jewish parts of Palestine, just like Hamas is in control of Gaza today, and they were killing British soldiers and civilians, and bombing public and tourists' sites in Palestine. Infact, those Jewish terrorist groups really terrorized the whole of Palestine back then to force the British out. So in retaliation for the attacks, the British should have killed 100,000 innocent Jewish women and babies just like lsrael is doing in Gaza today Abi?
It is false to say Hamas started as a militant group
And yes! Majority if Gazans support Hamas till today if not they won't still be in power.
Hamas is the government of Gaza and Gaza is Hamas territory. Boko Haram is not and has never been a government. You keep mixing this simple thing up
Hamas did not coerce people to vote for them in 2006. They were the popular party then and still are today. If Boko Haram becomes a political party and people vote for them to take power, the people should be ready to bear the brunt of their government. That's what the social contract of elections implies.
Haganah was not a terrorist group. It was a defence force. Irgun was a terrorist group and no one ever voted for them or putthem in charge of anywhere. Even the Jewish Nationalist movement proscribed them. Haganah denounced them as well. Irgun is just like Boko Haram. So your comparison is again flawed.
Go and get yourself properly educated. There are women today who support Boko haram. Recently a market was bombed and the initial story was that there were innocent people there. Government's response was that the market had been closed and was being used by terrorist so anyone who went there to trade was either their supporter or part of them and deserved what they got.
I haven't seen anyone complain against that narrative. Do you disagree with the govt?
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Nwaikpe: 8:58am On Apr 15
Flangelo12:
What does that have to do with Germany providing 30% of Israel's hardware?
What does "Germany providing 30% of Israel's hardware" have to do with "Europe mostly depends on Israel's intelligence and hardware innovation"?
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Altern8tor: 9:57am On Apr 15
Confusion plenty here
Alikoooooooooo:
Israel is not my God, and God is NOT only interested in Israel. Noah who saved the World was not a Jew. Adam was not a Jew. Methuselah was not a Jew. God has no Chosen people all God cares about is people keeping his Words. If you like call yourself a Christian Go to church morning noon and night and do not do what the bible says and you will see how far.

Faith without Works is Dead. Jesus salvation is Potential salvation. Obeying what Jesus said is Kinetic salvation.

Israel is Not my God, Moses is Not my God, Jesus.is Not My God. God is My God.
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by fxexperts: 11:17am On Apr 15
Uchesis:
99% of those supporting Israel still thinks that Israelis are Christians



No be juju be that?

grin grin grin
and 99% of those supporting Iran think Iran are genuine Muslim supporting them in their muslim course.
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Bizmind95: 4:34pm On Apr 15
Kukutente23:
It is false to say Hamas started as a militant group
And yes! Majority if Gazans support Hamas till today if not they won't still be in power.
Hamas is the government of Gaza and Gaza is Hamas territory. Boko Haram is not and has never been a government. You keep mixing this simple thing up
Hamas did not coerce people to vote for them in 2006. They were the popular party then and still are today. If Boko Haram becomes a political party and people vote for them to take power, the people should be ready to bear the brunt of their government. That's what the social contract of elections implies.
Haganah was not a terrorist group. It was a defence force. Irgun was a terrorist group and no one ever voted for them or putthem in charge of anywhere. Even the Jewish Nationalist movement proscribed them. Haganah denounced them as well. Irgun is just like Boko Haram. So your comparison is again flawed.
Go and get yourself properly educated. There are women today who support Boko haram. Recently a market was bombed and the initial story was that there were innocent people there. Government's response was that the market had been closed and was being used by terrorist so anyone who went there to trade was either their supporter or part of them and deserved what they got.
I haven't seen anyone complain against that narrative. Do you disagree with the govt?
You still haven't answered the simple question l asked you sir!!! And how do you know that majority of Gazans still support Hamas today? Did they tell you that? You even said that if majority of Gazans don't support Hamas, that Hamas won't still be in power today!!! Just listen to yourself bro!!l What of all the dictators, wanna-be dictators and unpopular leaders that have since lost the support of their people but are still in power today? So going by your flawed logic, majority of Nigerians still support Tinubu and APC today, and that's why APC is still in power right? So majority of Cameroonians still support Paul Biya and that's why Biya and his party are still in power after 45 years right? So majority of Russians still support Putin and that's why he and his party are still in power after 25 years right? The logic also applies to all the other dozens of countries where leaders and their political parties who have since lost the support of their people are still in power today!!! Is that what you're trying to say! That all the political leaders and parties in power today worldwide all still enjoy the support of their people, if not, they won't still in power today!!! That line of logic alone clearly tells me that you're still a political amateur, so it will be a complete waste of precious time continuing this argument with you after this if you don't first and foremost accept your flawed logic!!!
Re: Italy Suspends Its Defense Agreement With Israel by Alikoooooooooo: 7:19pm On Apr 15
Altern8tor:
Confusion plenty here
Kpele take your medicine, don't give up, God will sort out the confusing situation. Be strong. I will pray for you. Jesus Loves You
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